134a Refrigerant
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> You only gave an example of 'in a pinch'... there was no
> additional specification to the challenge
--------. i clarified the scenario for you and you still choked on it. :-)
> and no low-ambient condition was spec'ed.
i clearly said -30 degree ambient. shall i link it again? :-)
> I happen
> to know that without this condition, it's not even
> necessary to have a head pressure control in a system...
yeah, i ------- told you that nearly 2 weeks ago. :-)
> as I said before, these controls give the system more
> thermal bandwidth.
thats NOT what it does! it regulates head pressure distribution.
> You ----ed up, and refuse to
> acknowlege it.
lol you are one ignorant, assinine fool. clue boy, i _never_ ---- up when
it comes to refrigeration. :-)
> Kinda like you and the ozone layer?
nope. _nothing_ about ozone depletion is _proven_. its all speculation
which is why you must resort to URLs with "proudliberal" in them. you had
to hunt to find someone lacking the integrity to be honest.
> Oh, I must have missed any other time
no you didnt miss it stephen, youve simply grown to believe your own LIES.
you are a pathlogical liar.
> There was no -30 degree spec
WRONG. see news:11cbop8lt1q84d@corp.supernews.com where i CLEARLY
stated -30 degrees. :-)
> And now you're waffling on
> the parts availability
--------. nice try at smoke and mirrors, wont work. i simply stated that i
dont care what the reason in order to get back to the one basic point.
YOURE FULL OF ----. you have NO IDEA what a realistic alternative to
replacing an HMC would be. :-) play it either way stevie, with or without
parts....with or without ambient......give me a realistic alternative.
you cant. :-)
> Do we have parts,
> or not?
really doesnt matter. take your pick, you still wont be able to answer the
question. :-)
> I'll admit ignorance of HVAC if
> you'll admit ignorance of atmospheric science.
TRANSLATION --> "im a fool, nate".
its abundantly clear that youre completely ignorant when it comes to
refrigeration. when you own it, ill give you the solution.
> Why would there be two valves on the straight
> piece of pipe, if I was lying?
one to regulate what goes to the condensor, one to regulate what bypasses
the condensor.
> If the valve was
> meant to control something, all you'd need would
> be one valve, right?
you obviously dont understand the basic function of an HMC. duh. :-)
> Why two valves? If you have two valves, you
> can turn them off, then insert the regulator.
BZZT. you would still have to pull a vaccuum before releasing the
refrigerant.
>> BUWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! the expansion valve regulates pressure going into the
>> EVAPORATOR. the HMC regulates HEAD pressure at the condensor!
>
> Take some refrigerant out
holy ---- you really DONT know what an HMC does, do you? :-) besides, when
you "take some refrigerant out" you would starve your evaporator. these
components are designed to run within certain pressure specs and if you
"take some refrigerant out" youre starving the system. starve the system
and whatever you needed to keep cold will not be cold for very long.
try again. :-)
> and run without the head
> pressure control. It's just as simple as that
lol you are a fool! its a constant dynamic load. you cannot run without
some form of pressure regulation!
>> youve given me NOTHING conclusive from a credible source.
>
> Now you're lying... and stonewalling.
i am only waiting on a credible source.
> Obviously you're trying to get
> additional specs into the challenge
> that were not part of the original
> post
i point you to my original post on this matter TO YOU.
news:11cbop8lt1q84d@corp.supernews.com :-)
> I'm on the right track
lol yeah, with your "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
> yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
> all the components they are heavier than the individual components.
exactly. my first conclusive statement reads "refrigerant is a compound".
i went on further to explain it to you using mixture generically. it is
only your desperation that drives you on this, and thats fine. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:OiiKe.348$SR5.84@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net.. .
> You only gave an example of 'in a pinch'... there was no
> additional specification to the challenge
--------. i clarified the scenario for you and you still choked on it. :-)
> and no low-ambient condition was spec'ed.
i clearly said -30 degree ambient. shall i link it again? :-)
> I happen
> to know that without this condition, it's not even
> necessary to have a head pressure control in a system...
yeah, i ------- told you that nearly 2 weeks ago. :-)
> as I said before, these controls give the system more
> thermal bandwidth.
thats NOT what it does! it regulates head pressure distribution.
> You ----ed up, and refuse to
> acknowlege it.
lol you are one ignorant, assinine fool. clue boy, i _never_ ---- up when
it comes to refrigeration. :-)
> Kinda like you and the ozone layer?
nope. _nothing_ about ozone depletion is _proven_. its all speculation
which is why you must resort to URLs with "proudliberal" in them. you had
to hunt to find someone lacking the integrity to be honest.
> Oh, I must have missed any other time
no you didnt miss it stephen, youve simply grown to believe your own LIES.
you are a pathlogical liar.
> There was no -30 degree spec
WRONG. see news:11cbop8lt1q84d@corp.supernews.com where i CLEARLY
stated -30 degrees. :-)
> And now you're waffling on
> the parts availability
--------. nice try at smoke and mirrors, wont work. i simply stated that i
dont care what the reason in order to get back to the one basic point.
YOURE FULL OF ----. you have NO IDEA what a realistic alternative to
replacing an HMC would be. :-) play it either way stevie, with or without
parts....with or without ambient......give me a realistic alternative.
you cant. :-)
> Do we have parts,
> or not?
really doesnt matter. take your pick, you still wont be able to answer the
question. :-)
> I'll admit ignorance of HVAC if
> you'll admit ignorance of atmospheric science.
TRANSLATION --> "im a fool, nate".
its abundantly clear that youre completely ignorant when it comes to
refrigeration. when you own it, ill give you the solution.
> Why would there be two valves on the straight
> piece of pipe, if I was lying?
one to regulate what goes to the condensor, one to regulate what bypasses
the condensor.
> If the valve was
> meant to control something, all you'd need would
> be one valve, right?
you obviously dont understand the basic function of an HMC. duh. :-)
> Why two valves? If you have two valves, you
> can turn them off, then insert the regulator.
BZZT. you would still have to pull a vaccuum before releasing the
refrigerant.
>> BUWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! the expansion valve regulates pressure going into the
>> EVAPORATOR. the HMC regulates HEAD pressure at the condensor!
>
> Take some refrigerant out
holy ---- you really DONT know what an HMC does, do you? :-) besides, when
you "take some refrigerant out" you would starve your evaporator. these
components are designed to run within certain pressure specs and if you
"take some refrigerant out" youre starving the system. starve the system
and whatever you needed to keep cold will not be cold for very long.
try again. :-)
> and run without the head
> pressure control. It's just as simple as that
lol you are a fool! its a constant dynamic load. you cannot run without
some form of pressure regulation!
>> youve given me NOTHING conclusive from a credible source.
>
> Now you're lying... and stonewalling.
i am only waiting on a credible source.
> Obviously you're trying to get
> additional specs into the challenge
> that were not part of the original
> post
i point you to my original post on this matter TO YOU.
news:11cbop8lt1q84d@corp.supernews.com :-)
> I'm on the right track
lol yeah, with your "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
> yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
> all the components they are heavier than the individual components.
exactly. my first conclusive statement reads "refrigerant is a compound".
i went on further to explain it to you using mixture generically. it is
only your desperation that drives you on this, and thats fine. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:sMUJe.120$O07.107@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >> cryo simply is not a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
> >
> > It is when you need 15K temperatures
>
> cryo is NOT a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
It *is* a part of refrigeration... who ever said
anything about 'commercial refrigeration'?
And didn't you make some wild-*** claim
to be more qualified to work on it than me?
Well, which is it? Confused is as confused does!
> > Just because you can't/don't make money
> > at it, doesn't mean that it's not a field of study
> > in your chosen vocation
>
> being as _i_ am the one possessing universal (type 3) certification and am
a
> licensed refrigeration contractor and youre....well......_nothing_ by any
> standard i think i would know better about what is in my chosen vocation.
You forget... I have a bachelor's degree from
a four-year state university... that's a pretty well-
respected certification, I certainly wouldn't call
it *nothing*... and just because you don't want
cryo to be part of refrigeration doesn't mean that
it's not.
> > one you *forgot* about
> > when crowing about your so-called encyclopedic
> > knowlege of refrigeration.
>
> #1 i never said ---- about _knowledge_.
You said:
>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
>source/geo thermal.
Couldn't be plainer.
> ....my statement was
> _qualified_.....you know.....recognizing my
> own limitations
Stop, I'm gonna hurl again! Tell us about the
ozone layer some more!
> >> > you just said that the only
> >> > thing you didn't know about refrigeration was
> >> > geo.
> >>
> >> LIAR. i said the only thing i wasnt _qualified_ in. and cryo isnt
> >> commercial refrigeration. :-)
> >
> > You said:
> >>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
> >>source/geo thermal.
>
> yeah no ----.....QUALIFIED. that is not saying its the only thing i dont
> know.
Your poor little neck is not going to keep
supporting your head if you keep spinning
like this... have a care!
> > The phrase "commercial refrigeration" never
> > came up.
>
> ha! only because you refuse to recognize the scope of anything in
> contradiction to your -------- spin and LIES.
Transferrence... blatant. Of course, we can
all go back and read the entire thread... the
phrase 'commercial refrigeration' was never
used.
How many times did I have to prod him
before he'd talk about cryo?
> > Busted your *****... or ball, as the case may be!
>
> you sure do seem fascinated with my genetalia.
More sick transferrence... the colloquialism
escapes him. Properly, it's 'genitalia', btw.
>
> its cool, i dont blame ya.
I'd imagine it's one of the many
'limitiations' you 'own'... : )
> BUWHAHA! :-) talk all your ---- about how youre the cryo man yet you
cant
> even tell me what the PMB is, much less how to adjust it.
And yet I wrote:
<>
I suppose
you could say that the PMB is achieving
15K... good enough.
</>
Why would you adjust a Performance Measurement
Baseline? That's something that the engineers cook
up to qualify the system's performance during
commissioning.
> > why should I share
> > any more information about me, with you?
>
> lol to back up your -------- LIES? :-) i can proudly show you any
> certification ive listed.....i might even put up a "ha-ha lookie stevie"
web
> page. :-)
Make a site pointing out my lies... that
should keep you busy!
> > you never even explained what
> > you'd use for a head-pressure control substitute!
>
> lol no ---- dumb ***. im waiting on YOU to tell ME since youre mr. big
time
> refrigeration man. when you conceed THIS ONE POINT and admit that you
> havent a clue ill gladly give you the correct solution. since youre mr.
big
> time, surely you can solve this VERY SIMPLE problem.
I've already given it... with no low ambient, there's
no need for a head pressure control. Just bypass it.
> >> > Why would I even bother?
> >>
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i couldnt find anything on it"
> >
> > I haven't tried,
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i still cant find anything on it"
>
> BUWAHAHA! :-)
>
>
> > I'm sure
> > you've been googling your little brains out
>
> lol guess again. :-)
>
>
> > Just a friendly reminder that your ethics are
> > on display
>
> lol what would YOU know about ethics? let me hit you with another clue by
> four. ethics are giving back. ethics are NOT selling parts that folks
dont
> need (youd be surprised how corrupt my industry is!). ethics are paying
out
> of your own pocket to replace a condemned furnace for a single mom when
her
> husband ran off with some ---- and left her alone to raise 3 kids without
a
> dime from him (i did just that last winter). she swears she will pay you
> back some how some day but you know youll never see a dime and it doesnt
> matter because at least the kids will be warm. ethics are calling the
$200
> torch set to the clerks attention when he failed to add them to your bill.
> ethics are honoring a warranty at your own expense even when that same
> warranty is expired (certainly a limit to that).
>
> oh yeah, and ethics are also admitting to your own limitation.....not
trying
> to -------- people that you know something you dont.
Like your knowlege of the ozone layer?
> >> and your "solution" is still totally assinine and ridiculous. :-)
> >
> > Until you give reasons, you're just making more
> > ***-smoke.
>
> lol you *** wipe ive GIVEN you the reasons! your "solution" is totally
> assinine and ridiculous because it would require you stay on the roof top
> 24/7 to adjust the valves to regulate the pressure on the constant
changing
> load. how in the hell did you miss that the first 4 times i explained it?
If there's no low ambient, the head pressure control
is not required. You may be up on the roof moving
some valve, but I never specified that, and even
showed how your conjecture makes no sense, given
that there is no reason to have two valves if you
want to modulate the refrigerant flow... you'd only
need one.
> > What would *you* replace a head
> > pressure control with?
>
> when you conceed to your ignorance ill gladly tell you.
You'll have to con*cede* your ignorance of
the ozone layer first... and we *know* *all*
about that, it just won't happen! You don't
own any limitiations at all!
>
> >> LIAR! it was clearly in my original post TO YOU because YOU were the
> >> only
> >> ignorant fool who would actually attempt to debate something they know
> >> NOTHING about.
> >
> > Like the atmosphere? And the ozone layer?
>
> NONE of that is proven. the WHOLE ozone depletion/cfc is nothing beyond
> speculation and belief, with the majority of it being politically
motivated.
> youre a pawn stephen. dupont sold you on the lie for their own gain.
This is not about Dupont... it's about UV.
You think you know what's going on... and
yet, you claim to recognize your limitations.
Really, you're just full of poo, and can't
recognize it.
> > Describe for us your background in ozone
> > science... surely you must have some kind
> > of certification... like a college degree, or
> > something? Maybe even a high-school degree?
>
> sure, as soon as you do the same.
Two classes in college physics... the degree
was posted by Bill. Your turn!
> >> > Because I'm right.. no low ambient
> >> > means no head pressure control necessary
> >>
> >> you really are ------- stupid arent you?
> >
> > You're starting to twitch, Nate!
>
> lol......um, ok. :-)
That's better!
> > The valves were there to let you put the
> > proper head pressure control in when the
> > part arrived.
>
> lol --------! thats even more pathetic than your first failed attempt!
:-)
> you know the valves were there to regulate pressures, only at that point
you
> didnt realize the pressures were dynamic.
Then why two valves, Nate? It is
obvious that I meant the valves to
close off the system when the new
part was installed... that's why I gave
you a bleeder fitting on them!
You certainly are grasping now...
> > I've since decided that no
> > valves would be good enough,
>
> TRANSLATION --> "you proved me wrong" :-)
I've done that often enough to become
bored with it... it's not very hard to do,
after all...
> > Like your assertion about the ozone layer?
>
> ive got as much as you do because none of it is proven.
It's as proven as Evolution... wanna talk about
that one? The whole civilized world changed
refrigerants... perhaps you've heard of this?
It's slightly germaine to your vocation, you
know... you *had* to have noticed when
R22 was not as available as before... ever
wonder why? Oh, that's right... you believe
in the 'big conspiracy'. Buy more foil for
your head... the sputniks are watching!
> > Isn't this like you
> > asserting that CFC's don't get up to the ozone
> > layer?
>
> no. its basic refrigeration 101. :-) you dont need to recover anything
> when you can pump it down into its own receiver......but i wouldnt expect
> you to know ANYTHING about that. :-)
Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
Does every air conditioning system have this
valve? Does my home AC have one? I don't
think so.
And once you understand the physics behind
the ozone layer depletion, and subsequent
recovery, you can see the benefits of non-CFC
refrigerant use. You only have to open your
eyes, and read. Not trusting NOAA about
the atmosphere is what a whack job nutcase
would do... it's all some big conspiracy.
> >> >> > You don't have to have certs to work on cryo
> >> >>
> >> >> LIAR. try again.
> >> >
> >> > You don't.
> >>
> >> LIAR.
> >
> > See? What an idiot... no link, no nothing.
> > Just more smoke from his butt.
>
> so your suggestion is that you can hire someone working the drive through
> window at mcdonalds to be a cryo tech? and if you COULD do that, it just
> waters down your whole claim to being mr. cryo. :-)
Your straw man has red herrings hanging
out of its ears... go ahead, punch on it
some more. You obviously need to get
some more frustrations out.
Meanwhile, you might post a link showing
the necessity of a certification for working
on cryo. I got the job without one... chief
site tech.
> > Pulling the refrigerator, honing the cylinder,
> > cleaning the cylinder, replacing the fiber
> > rings and keeper, evacuating the refrigerator
>
> i can cut and paste too. if you truly know something about cryo then
youll
> tell me the PMB, working pressures, etc. otherwise youre just another
> internet chump trying to -------- somebody.
You really didn't read it! I'm amazed...
how shallow you are. Everything you
asked for is in there.
You don't believe I wrote that? Try
googling it! You don't believe I worked
for NRAO? Google that! It's all there.
Your problem... you don't trust anyone...
a common condition of folks that really
shouldn't be trusted at all.
> > Pearls before swine
>
> i have no doubt this is how you feel stephen. like all liberals you think
> youre better than the rest of us, above us, and need to think for us.
Oh, *that's* your problem... you resent those
people. Well, suck it up, get over it... you'll
be happier in life after you do. Obviously
*someone* needs to think for you, since you'd
still be using R22 if not for the world scientific
community. Keeping yourself ignorant is not
a good thing, no matter how much you try to
glamorize it.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
..
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fgc1db23od082@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:sMUJe.120$O07.107@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >> cryo simply is not a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
> >
> > It is when you need 15K temperatures
>
> cryo is NOT a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
It *is* a part of refrigeration... who ever said
anything about 'commercial refrigeration'?
And didn't you make some wild-*** claim
to be more qualified to work on it than me?
Well, which is it? Confused is as confused does!
> > Just because you can't/don't make money
> > at it, doesn't mean that it's not a field of study
> > in your chosen vocation
>
> being as _i_ am the one possessing universal (type 3) certification and am
a
> licensed refrigeration contractor and youre....well......_nothing_ by any
> standard i think i would know better about what is in my chosen vocation.
You forget... I have a bachelor's degree from
a four-year state university... that's a pretty well-
respected certification, I certainly wouldn't call
it *nothing*... and just because you don't want
cryo to be part of refrigeration doesn't mean that
it's not.
> > one you *forgot* about
> > when crowing about your so-called encyclopedic
> > knowlege of refrigeration.
>
> #1 i never said ---- about _knowledge_.
You said:
>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
>source/geo thermal.
Couldn't be plainer.
> ....my statement was
> _qualified_.....you know.....recognizing my
> own limitations
Stop, I'm gonna hurl again! Tell us about the
ozone layer some more!
> >> > you just said that the only
> >> > thing you didn't know about refrigeration was
> >> > geo.
> >>
> >> LIAR. i said the only thing i wasnt _qualified_ in. and cryo isnt
> >> commercial refrigeration. :-)
> >
> > You said:
> >>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
> >>source/geo thermal.
>
> yeah no ----.....QUALIFIED. that is not saying its the only thing i dont
> know.
Your poor little neck is not going to keep
supporting your head if you keep spinning
like this... have a care!
> > The phrase "commercial refrigeration" never
> > came up.
>
> ha! only because you refuse to recognize the scope of anything in
> contradiction to your -------- spin and LIES.
Transferrence... blatant. Of course, we can
all go back and read the entire thread... the
phrase 'commercial refrigeration' was never
used.
How many times did I have to prod him
before he'd talk about cryo?
> > Busted your *****... or ball, as the case may be!
>
> you sure do seem fascinated with my genetalia.
More sick transferrence... the colloquialism
escapes him. Properly, it's 'genitalia', btw.
>
> its cool, i dont blame ya.
I'd imagine it's one of the many
'limitiations' you 'own'... : )
> BUWHAHA! :-) talk all your ---- about how youre the cryo man yet you
cant
> even tell me what the PMB is, much less how to adjust it.
And yet I wrote:
<>
I suppose
you could say that the PMB is achieving
15K... good enough.
</>
Why would you adjust a Performance Measurement
Baseline? That's something that the engineers cook
up to qualify the system's performance during
commissioning.
> > why should I share
> > any more information about me, with you?
>
> lol to back up your -------- LIES? :-) i can proudly show you any
> certification ive listed.....i might even put up a "ha-ha lookie stevie"
web
> page. :-)
Make a site pointing out my lies... that
should keep you busy!
> > you never even explained what
> > you'd use for a head-pressure control substitute!
>
> lol no ---- dumb ***. im waiting on YOU to tell ME since youre mr. big
time
> refrigeration man. when you conceed THIS ONE POINT and admit that you
> havent a clue ill gladly give you the correct solution. since youre mr.
big
> time, surely you can solve this VERY SIMPLE problem.
I've already given it... with no low ambient, there's
no need for a head pressure control. Just bypass it.
> >> > Why would I even bother?
> >>
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i couldnt find anything on it"
> >
> > I haven't tried,
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i still cant find anything on it"
>
> BUWAHAHA! :-)
>
>
> > I'm sure
> > you've been googling your little brains out
>
> lol guess again. :-)
>
>
> > Just a friendly reminder that your ethics are
> > on display
>
> lol what would YOU know about ethics? let me hit you with another clue by
> four. ethics are giving back. ethics are NOT selling parts that folks
dont
> need (youd be surprised how corrupt my industry is!). ethics are paying
out
> of your own pocket to replace a condemned furnace for a single mom when
her
> husband ran off with some ---- and left her alone to raise 3 kids without
a
> dime from him (i did just that last winter). she swears she will pay you
> back some how some day but you know youll never see a dime and it doesnt
> matter because at least the kids will be warm. ethics are calling the
$200
> torch set to the clerks attention when he failed to add them to your bill.
> ethics are honoring a warranty at your own expense even when that same
> warranty is expired (certainly a limit to that).
>
> oh yeah, and ethics are also admitting to your own limitation.....not
trying
> to -------- people that you know something you dont.
Like your knowlege of the ozone layer?
> >> and your "solution" is still totally assinine and ridiculous. :-)
> >
> > Until you give reasons, you're just making more
> > ***-smoke.
>
> lol you *** wipe ive GIVEN you the reasons! your "solution" is totally
> assinine and ridiculous because it would require you stay on the roof top
> 24/7 to adjust the valves to regulate the pressure on the constant
changing
> load. how in the hell did you miss that the first 4 times i explained it?
If there's no low ambient, the head pressure control
is not required. You may be up on the roof moving
some valve, but I never specified that, and even
showed how your conjecture makes no sense, given
that there is no reason to have two valves if you
want to modulate the refrigerant flow... you'd only
need one.
> > What would *you* replace a head
> > pressure control with?
>
> when you conceed to your ignorance ill gladly tell you.
You'll have to con*cede* your ignorance of
the ozone layer first... and we *know* *all*
about that, it just won't happen! You don't
own any limitiations at all!
>
> >> LIAR! it was clearly in my original post TO YOU because YOU were the
> >> only
> >> ignorant fool who would actually attempt to debate something they know
> >> NOTHING about.
> >
> > Like the atmosphere? And the ozone layer?
>
> NONE of that is proven. the WHOLE ozone depletion/cfc is nothing beyond
> speculation and belief, with the majority of it being politically
motivated.
> youre a pawn stephen. dupont sold you on the lie for their own gain.
This is not about Dupont... it's about UV.
You think you know what's going on... and
yet, you claim to recognize your limitations.
Really, you're just full of poo, and can't
recognize it.
> > Describe for us your background in ozone
> > science... surely you must have some kind
> > of certification... like a college degree, or
> > something? Maybe even a high-school degree?
>
> sure, as soon as you do the same.
Two classes in college physics... the degree
was posted by Bill. Your turn!
> >> > Because I'm right.. no low ambient
> >> > means no head pressure control necessary
> >>
> >> you really are ------- stupid arent you?
> >
> > You're starting to twitch, Nate!
>
> lol......um, ok. :-)
That's better!
> > The valves were there to let you put the
> > proper head pressure control in when the
> > part arrived.
>
> lol --------! thats even more pathetic than your first failed attempt!
:-)
> you know the valves were there to regulate pressures, only at that point
you
> didnt realize the pressures were dynamic.
Then why two valves, Nate? It is
obvious that I meant the valves to
close off the system when the new
part was installed... that's why I gave
you a bleeder fitting on them!
You certainly are grasping now...
> > I've since decided that no
> > valves would be good enough,
>
> TRANSLATION --> "you proved me wrong" :-)
I've done that often enough to become
bored with it... it's not very hard to do,
after all...
> > Like your assertion about the ozone layer?
>
> ive got as much as you do because none of it is proven.
It's as proven as Evolution... wanna talk about
that one? The whole civilized world changed
refrigerants... perhaps you've heard of this?
It's slightly germaine to your vocation, you
know... you *had* to have noticed when
R22 was not as available as before... ever
wonder why? Oh, that's right... you believe
in the 'big conspiracy'. Buy more foil for
your head... the sputniks are watching!
> > Isn't this like you
> > asserting that CFC's don't get up to the ozone
> > layer?
>
> no. its basic refrigeration 101. :-) you dont need to recover anything
> when you can pump it down into its own receiver......but i wouldnt expect
> you to know ANYTHING about that. :-)
Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
Does every air conditioning system have this
valve? Does my home AC have one? I don't
think so.
And once you understand the physics behind
the ozone layer depletion, and subsequent
recovery, you can see the benefits of non-CFC
refrigerant use. You only have to open your
eyes, and read. Not trusting NOAA about
the atmosphere is what a whack job nutcase
would do... it's all some big conspiracy.
> >> >> > You don't have to have certs to work on cryo
> >> >>
> >> >> LIAR. try again.
> >> >
> >> > You don't.
> >>
> >> LIAR.
> >
> > See? What an idiot... no link, no nothing.
> > Just more smoke from his butt.
>
> so your suggestion is that you can hire someone working the drive through
> window at mcdonalds to be a cryo tech? and if you COULD do that, it just
> waters down your whole claim to being mr. cryo. :-)
Your straw man has red herrings hanging
out of its ears... go ahead, punch on it
some more. You obviously need to get
some more frustrations out.
Meanwhile, you might post a link showing
the necessity of a certification for working
on cryo. I got the job without one... chief
site tech.
> > Pulling the refrigerator, honing the cylinder,
> > cleaning the cylinder, replacing the fiber
> > rings and keeper, evacuating the refrigerator
>
> i can cut and paste too. if you truly know something about cryo then
youll
> tell me the PMB, working pressures, etc. otherwise youre just another
> internet chump trying to -------- somebody.
You really didn't read it! I'm amazed...
how shallow you are. Everything you
asked for is in there.
You don't believe I wrote that? Try
googling it! You don't believe I worked
for NRAO? Google that! It's all there.
Your problem... you don't trust anyone...
a common condition of folks that really
shouldn't be trusted at all.
> > Pearls before swine
>
> i have no doubt this is how you feel stephen. like all liberals you think
> youre better than the rest of us, above us, and need to think for us.
Oh, *that's* your problem... you resent those
people. Well, suck it up, get over it... you'll
be happier in life after you do. Obviously
*someone* needs to think for you, since you'd
still be using R22 if not for the world scientific
community. Keeping yourself ignorant is not
a good thing, no matter how much you try to
glamorize it.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
..
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:sMUJe.120$O07.107@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >> cryo simply is not a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
> >
> > It is when you need 15K temperatures
>
> cryo is NOT a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
It *is* a part of refrigeration... who ever said
anything about 'commercial refrigeration'?
And didn't you make some wild-*** claim
to be more qualified to work on it than me?
Well, which is it? Confused is as confused does!
> > Just because you can't/don't make money
> > at it, doesn't mean that it's not a field of study
> > in your chosen vocation
>
> being as _i_ am the one possessing universal (type 3) certification and am
a
> licensed refrigeration contractor and youre....well......_nothing_ by any
> standard i think i would know better about what is in my chosen vocation.
You forget... I have a bachelor's degree from
a four-year state university... that's a pretty well-
respected certification, I certainly wouldn't call
it *nothing*... and just because you don't want
cryo to be part of refrigeration doesn't mean that
it's not.
> > one you *forgot* about
> > when crowing about your so-called encyclopedic
> > knowlege of refrigeration.
>
> #1 i never said ---- about _knowledge_.
You said:
>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
>source/geo thermal.
Couldn't be plainer.
> ....my statement was
> _qualified_.....you know.....recognizing my
> own limitations
Stop, I'm gonna hurl again! Tell us about the
ozone layer some more!
> >> > you just said that the only
> >> > thing you didn't know about refrigeration was
> >> > geo.
> >>
> >> LIAR. i said the only thing i wasnt _qualified_ in. and cryo isnt
> >> commercial refrigeration. :-)
> >
> > You said:
> >>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
> >>source/geo thermal.
>
> yeah no ----.....QUALIFIED. that is not saying its the only thing i dont
> know.
Your poor little neck is not going to keep
supporting your head if you keep spinning
like this... have a care!
> > The phrase "commercial refrigeration" never
> > came up.
>
> ha! only because you refuse to recognize the scope of anything in
> contradiction to your -------- spin and LIES.
Transferrence... blatant. Of course, we can
all go back and read the entire thread... the
phrase 'commercial refrigeration' was never
used.
How many times did I have to prod him
before he'd talk about cryo?
> > Busted your *****... or ball, as the case may be!
>
> you sure do seem fascinated with my genetalia.
More sick transferrence... the colloquialism
escapes him. Properly, it's 'genitalia', btw.
>
> its cool, i dont blame ya.
I'd imagine it's one of the many
'limitiations' you 'own'... : )
> BUWHAHA! :-) talk all your ---- about how youre the cryo man yet you
cant
> even tell me what the PMB is, much less how to adjust it.
And yet I wrote:
<>
I suppose
you could say that the PMB is achieving
15K... good enough.
</>
Why would you adjust a Performance Measurement
Baseline? That's something that the engineers cook
up to qualify the system's performance during
commissioning.
> > why should I share
> > any more information about me, with you?
>
> lol to back up your -------- LIES? :-) i can proudly show you any
> certification ive listed.....i might even put up a "ha-ha lookie stevie"
web
> page. :-)
Make a site pointing out my lies... that
should keep you busy!
> > you never even explained what
> > you'd use for a head-pressure control substitute!
>
> lol no ---- dumb ***. im waiting on YOU to tell ME since youre mr. big
time
> refrigeration man. when you conceed THIS ONE POINT and admit that you
> havent a clue ill gladly give you the correct solution. since youre mr.
big
> time, surely you can solve this VERY SIMPLE problem.
I've already given it... with no low ambient, there's
no need for a head pressure control. Just bypass it.
> >> > Why would I even bother?
> >>
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i couldnt find anything on it"
> >
> > I haven't tried,
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i still cant find anything on it"
>
> BUWAHAHA! :-)
>
>
> > I'm sure
> > you've been googling your little brains out
>
> lol guess again. :-)
>
>
> > Just a friendly reminder that your ethics are
> > on display
>
> lol what would YOU know about ethics? let me hit you with another clue by
> four. ethics are giving back. ethics are NOT selling parts that folks
dont
> need (youd be surprised how corrupt my industry is!). ethics are paying
out
> of your own pocket to replace a condemned furnace for a single mom when
her
> husband ran off with some ---- and left her alone to raise 3 kids without
a
> dime from him (i did just that last winter). she swears she will pay you
> back some how some day but you know youll never see a dime and it doesnt
> matter because at least the kids will be warm. ethics are calling the
$200
> torch set to the clerks attention when he failed to add them to your bill.
> ethics are honoring a warranty at your own expense even when that same
> warranty is expired (certainly a limit to that).
>
> oh yeah, and ethics are also admitting to your own limitation.....not
trying
> to -------- people that you know something you dont.
Like your knowlege of the ozone layer?
> >> and your "solution" is still totally assinine and ridiculous. :-)
> >
> > Until you give reasons, you're just making more
> > ***-smoke.
>
> lol you *** wipe ive GIVEN you the reasons! your "solution" is totally
> assinine and ridiculous because it would require you stay on the roof top
> 24/7 to adjust the valves to regulate the pressure on the constant
changing
> load. how in the hell did you miss that the first 4 times i explained it?
If there's no low ambient, the head pressure control
is not required. You may be up on the roof moving
some valve, but I never specified that, and even
showed how your conjecture makes no sense, given
that there is no reason to have two valves if you
want to modulate the refrigerant flow... you'd only
need one.
> > What would *you* replace a head
> > pressure control with?
>
> when you conceed to your ignorance ill gladly tell you.
You'll have to con*cede* your ignorance of
the ozone layer first... and we *know* *all*
about that, it just won't happen! You don't
own any limitiations at all!
>
> >> LIAR! it was clearly in my original post TO YOU because YOU were the
> >> only
> >> ignorant fool who would actually attempt to debate something they know
> >> NOTHING about.
> >
> > Like the atmosphere? And the ozone layer?
>
> NONE of that is proven. the WHOLE ozone depletion/cfc is nothing beyond
> speculation and belief, with the majority of it being politically
motivated.
> youre a pawn stephen. dupont sold you on the lie for their own gain.
This is not about Dupont... it's about UV.
You think you know what's going on... and
yet, you claim to recognize your limitations.
Really, you're just full of poo, and can't
recognize it.
> > Describe for us your background in ozone
> > science... surely you must have some kind
> > of certification... like a college degree, or
> > something? Maybe even a high-school degree?
>
> sure, as soon as you do the same.
Two classes in college physics... the degree
was posted by Bill. Your turn!
> >> > Because I'm right.. no low ambient
> >> > means no head pressure control necessary
> >>
> >> you really are ------- stupid arent you?
> >
> > You're starting to twitch, Nate!
>
> lol......um, ok. :-)
That's better!
> > The valves were there to let you put the
> > proper head pressure control in when the
> > part arrived.
>
> lol --------! thats even more pathetic than your first failed attempt!
:-)
> you know the valves were there to regulate pressures, only at that point
you
> didnt realize the pressures were dynamic.
Then why two valves, Nate? It is
obvious that I meant the valves to
close off the system when the new
part was installed... that's why I gave
you a bleeder fitting on them!
You certainly are grasping now...
> > I've since decided that no
> > valves would be good enough,
>
> TRANSLATION --> "you proved me wrong" :-)
I've done that often enough to become
bored with it... it's not very hard to do,
after all...
> > Like your assertion about the ozone layer?
>
> ive got as much as you do because none of it is proven.
It's as proven as Evolution... wanna talk about
that one? The whole civilized world changed
refrigerants... perhaps you've heard of this?
It's slightly germaine to your vocation, you
know... you *had* to have noticed when
R22 was not as available as before... ever
wonder why? Oh, that's right... you believe
in the 'big conspiracy'. Buy more foil for
your head... the sputniks are watching!
> > Isn't this like you
> > asserting that CFC's don't get up to the ozone
> > layer?
>
> no. its basic refrigeration 101. :-) you dont need to recover anything
> when you can pump it down into its own receiver......but i wouldnt expect
> you to know ANYTHING about that. :-)
Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
Does every air conditioning system have this
valve? Does my home AC have one? I don't
think so.
And once you understand the physics behind
the ozone layer depletion, and subsequent
recovery, you can see the benefits of non-CFC
refrigerant use. You only have to open your
eyes, and read. Not trusting NOAA about
the atmosphere is what a whack job nutcase
would do... it's all some big conspiracy.
> >> >> > You don't have to have certs to work on cryo
> >> >>
> >> >> LIAR. try again.
> >> >
> >> > You don't.
> >>
> >> LIAR.
> >
> > See? What an idiot... no link, no nothing.
> > Just more smoke from his butt.
>
> so your suggestion is that you can hire someone working the drive through
> window at mcdonalds to be a cryo tech? and if you COULD do that, it just
> waters down your whole claim to being mr. cryo. :-)
Your straw man has red herrings hanging
out of its ears... go ahead, punch on it
some more. You obviously need to get
some more frustrations out.
Meanwhile, you might post a link showing
the necessity of a certification for working
on cryo. I got the job without one... chief
site tech.
> > Pulling the refrigerator, honing the cylinder,
> > cleaning the cylinder, replacing the fiber
> > rings and keeper, evacuating the refrigerator
>
> i can cut and paste too. if you truly know something about cryo then
youll
> tell me the PMB, working pressures, etc. otherwise youre just another
> internet chump trying to -------- somebody.
You really didn't read it! I'm amazed...
how shallow you are. Everything you
asked for is in there.
You don't believe I wrote that? Try
googling it! You don't believe I worked
for NRAO? Google that! It's all there.
Your problem... you don't trust anyone...
a common condition of folks that really
shouldn't be trusted at all.
> > Pearls before swine
>
> i have no doubt this is how you feel stephen. like all liberals you think
> youre better than the rest of us, above us, and need to think for us.
Oh, *that's* your problem... you resent those
people. Well, suck it up, get over it... you'll
be happier in life after you do. Obviously
*someone* needs to think for you, since you'd
still be using R22 if not for the world scientific
community. Keeping yourself ignorant is not
a good thing, no matter how much you try to
glamorize it.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
..
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fgc1db23od082@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:sMUJe.120$O07.107@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >> cryo simply is not a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
> >
> > It is when you need 15K temperatures
>
> cryo is NOT a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
It *is* a part of refrigeration... who ever said
anything about 'commercial refrigeration'?
And didn't you make some wild-*** claim
to be more qualified to work on it than me?
Well, which is it? Confused is as confused does!
> > Just because you can't/don't make money
> > at it, doesn't mean that it's not a field of study
> > in your chosen vocation
>
> being as _i_ am the one possessing universal (type 3) certification and am
a
> licensed refrigeration contractor and youre....well......_nothing_ by any
> standard i think i would know better about what is in my chosen vocation.
You forget... I have a bachelor's degree from
a four-year state university... that's a pretty well-
respected certification, I certainly wouldn't call
it *nothing*... and just because you don't want
cryo to be part of refrigeration doesn't mean that
it's not.
> > one you *forgot* about
> > when crowing about your so-called encyclopedic
> > knowlege of refrigeration.
>
> #1 i never said ---- about _knowledge_.
You said:
>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
>source/geo thermal.
Couldn't be plainer.
> ....my statement was
> _qualified_.....you know.....recognizing my
> own limitations
Stop, I'm gonna hurl again! Tell us about the
ozone layer some more!
> >> > you just said that the only
> >> > thing you didn't know about refrigeration was
> >> > geo.
> >>
> >> LIAR. i said the only thing i wasnt _qualified_ in. and cryo isnt
> >> commercial refrigeration. :-)
> >
> > You said:
> >>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
> >>source/geo thermal.
>
> yeah no ----.....QUALIFIED. that is not saying its the only thing i dont
> know.
Your poor little neck is not going to keep
supporting your head if you keep spinning
like this... have a care!
> > The phrase "commercial refrigeration" never
> > came up.
>
> ha! only because you refuse to recognize the scope of anything in
> contradiction to your -------- spin and LIES.
Transferrence... blatant. Of course, we can
all go back and read the entire thread... the
phrase 'commercial refrigeration' was never
used.
How many times did I have to prod him
before he'd talk about cryo?
> > Busted your *****... or ball, as the case may be!
>
> you sure do seem fascinated with my genetalia.
More sick transferrence... the colloquialism
escapes him. Properly, it's 'genitalia', btw.
>
> its cool, i dont blame ya.
I'd imagine it's one of the many
'limitiations' you 'own'... : )
> BUWHAHA! :-) talk all your ---- about how youre the cryo man yet you
cant
> even tell me what the PMB is, much less how to adjust it.
And yet I wrote:
<>
I suppose
you could say that the PMB is achieving
15K... good enough.
</>
Why would you adjust a Performance Measurement
Baseline? That's something that the engineers cook
up to qualify the system's performance during
commissioning.
> > why should I share
> > any more information about me, with you?
>
> lol to back up your -------- LIES? :-) i can proudly show you any
> certification ive listed.....i might even put up a "ha-ha lookie stevie"
web
> page. :-)
Make a site pointing out my lies... that
should keep you busy!
> > you never even explained what
> > you'd use for a head-pressure control substitute!
>
> lol no ---- dumb ***. im waiting on YOU to tell ME since youre mr. big
time
> refrigeration man. when you conceed THIS ONE POINT and admit that you
> havent a clue ill gladly give you the correct solution. since youre mr.
big
> time, surely you can solve this VERY SIMPLE problem.
I've already given it... with no low ambient, there's
no need for a head pressure control. Just bypass it.
> >> > Why would I even bother?
> >>
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i couldnt find anything on it"
> >
> > I haven't tried,
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i still cant find anything on it"
>
> BUWAHAHA! :-)
>
>
> > I'm sure
> > you've been googling your little brains out
>
> lol guess again. :-)
>
>
> > Just a friendly reminder that your ethics are
> > on display
>
> lol what would YOU know about ethics? let me hit you with another clue by
> four. ethics are giving back. ethics are NOT selling parts that folks
dont
> need (youd be surprised how corrupt my industry is!). ethics are paying
out
> of your own pocket to replace a condemned furnace for a single mom when
her
> husband ran off with some ---- and left her alone to raise 3 kids without
a
> dime from him (i did just that last winter). she swears she will pay you
> back some how some day but you know youll never see a dime and it doesnt
> matter because at least the kids will be warm. ethics are calling the
$200
> torch set to the clerks attention when he failed to add them to your bill.
> ethics are honoring a warranty at your own expense even when that same
> warranty is expired (certainly a limit to that).
>
> oh yeah, and ethics are also admitting to your own limitation.....not
trying
> to -------- people that you know something you dont.
Like your knowlege of the ozone layer?
> >> and your "solution" is still totally assinine and ridiculous. :-)
> >
> > Until you give reasons, you're just making more
> > ***-smoke.
>
> lol you *** wipe ive GIVEN you the reasons! your "solution" is totally
> assinine and ridiculous because it would require you stay on the roof top
> 24/7 to adjust the valves to regulate the pressure on the constant
changing
> load. how in the hell did you miss that the first 4 times i explained it?
If there's no low ambient, the head pressure control
is not required. You may be up on the roof moving
some valve, but I never specified that, and even
showed how your conjecture makes no sense, given
that there is no reason to have two valves if you
want to modulate the refrigerant flow... you'd only
need one.
> > What would *you* replace a head
> > pressure control with?
>
> when you conceed to your ignorance ill gladly tell you.
You'll have to con*cede* your ignorance of
the ozone layer first... and we *know* *all*
about that, it just won't happen! You don't
own any limitiations at all!
>
> >> LIAR! it was clearly in my original post TO YOU because YOU were the
> >> only
> >> ignorant fool who would actually attempt to debate something they know
> >> NOTHING about.
> >
> > Like the atmosphere? And the ozone layer?
>
> NONE of that is proven. the WHOLE ozone depletion/cfc is nothing beyond
> speculation and belief, with the majority of it being politically
motivated.
> youre a pawn stephen. dupont sold you on the lie for their own gain.
This is not about Dupont... it's about UV.
You think you know what's going on... and
yet, you claim to recognize your limitations.
Really, you're just full of poo, and can't
recognize it.
> > Describe for us your background in ozone
> > science... surely you must have some kind
> > of certification... like a college degree, or
> > something? Maybe even a high-school degree?
>
> sure, as soon as you do the same.
Two classes in college physics... the degree
was posted by Bill. Your turn!
> >> > Because I'm right.. no low ambient
> >> > means no head pressure control necessary
> >>
> >> you really are ------- stupid arent you?
> >
> > You're starting to twitch, Nate!
>
> lol......um, ok. :-)
That's better!
> > The valves were there to let you put the
> > proper head pressure control in when the
> > part arrived.
>
> lol --------! thats even more pathetic than your first failed attempt!
:-)
> you know the valves were there to regulate pressures, only at that point
you
> didnt realize the pressures were dynamic.
Then why two valves, Nate? It is
obvious that I meant the valves to
close off the system when the new
part was installed... that's why I gave
you a bleeder fitting on them!
You certainly are grasping now...
> > I've since decided that no
> > valves would be good enough,
>
> TRANSLATION --> "you proved me wrong" :-)
I've done that often enough to become
bored with it... it's not very hard to do,
after all...
> > Like your assertion about the ozone layer?
>
> ive got as much as you do because none of it is proven.
It's as proven as Evolution... wanna talk about
that one? The whole civilized world changed
refrigerants... perhaps you've heard of this?
It's slightly germaine to your vocation, you
know... you *had* to have noticed when
R22 was not as available as before... ever
wonder why? Oh, that's right... you believe
in the 'big conspiracy'. Buy more foil for
your head... the sputniks are watching!
> > Isn't this like you
> > asserting that CFC's don't get up to the ozone
> > layer?
>
> no. its basic refrigeration 101. :-) you dont need to recover anything
> when you can pump it down into its own receiver......but i wouldnt expect
> you to know ANYTHING about that. :-)
Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
Does every air conditioning system have this
valve? Does my home AC have one? I don't
think so.
And once you understand the physics behind
the ozone layer depletion, and subsequent
recovery, you can see the benefits of non-CFC
refrigerant use. You only have to open your
eyes, and read. Not trusting NOAA about
the atmosphere is what a whack job nutcase
would do... it's all some big conspiracy.
> >> >> > You don't have to have certs to work on cryo
> >> >>
> >> >> LIAR. try again.
> >> >
> >> > You don't.
> >>
> >> LIAR.
> >
> > See? What an idiot... no link, no nothing.
> > Just more smoke from his butt.
>
> so your suggestion is that you can hire someone working the drive through
> window at mcdonalds to be a cryo tech? and if you COULD do that, it just
> waters down your whole claim to being mr. cryo. :-)
Your straw man has red herrings hanging
out of its ears... go ahead, punch on it
some more. You obviously need to get
some more frustrations out.
Meanwhile, you might post a link showing
the necessity of a certification for working
on cryo. I got the job without one... chief
site tech.
> > Pulling the refrigerator, honing the cylinder,
> > cleaning the cylinder, replacing the fiber
> > rings and keeper, evacuating the refrigerator
>
> i can cut and paste too. if you truly know something about cryo then
youll
> tell me the PMB, working pressures, etc. otherwise youre just another
> internet chump trying to -------- somebody.
You really didn't read it! I'm amazed...
how shallow you are. Everything you
asked for is in there.
You don't believe I wrote that? Try
googling it! You don't believe I worked
for NRAO? Google that! It's all there.
Your problem... you don't trust anyone...
a common condition of folks that really
shouldn't be trusted at all.
> > Pearls before swine
>
> i have no doubt this is how you feel stephen. like all liberals you think
> youre better than the rest of us, above us, and need to think for us.
Oh, *that's* your problem... you resent those
people. Well, suck it up, get over it... you'll
be happier in life after you do. Obviously
*someone* needs to think for you, since you'd
still be using R22 if not for the world scientific
community. Keeping yourself ignorant is not
a good thing, no matter how much you try to
glamorize it.
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immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
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"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:EYTJe.784$FV1.85@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > What else would
> > you have to add to this erudite discussion, Nate?
>
> that youre stump stupid and a pathalogical liar. :-)
Geez, guy... try to make one post without
misspelling the big words...
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:EYTJe.784$FV1.85@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > What else would
> > you have to add to this erudite discussion, Nate?
>
> that youre stump stupid and a pathalogical liar. :-)
Geez, guy... try to make one post without
misspelling the big words...
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"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:EYTJe.784$FV1.85@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > What else would
> > you have to add to this erudite discussion, Nate?
>
> that youre stump stupid and a pathalogical liar. :-)
Geez, guy... try to make one post without
misspelling the big words...
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"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:EYTJe.784$FV1.85@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > What else would
> > you have to add to this erudite discussion, Nate?
>
> that youre stump stupid and a pathalogical liar. :-)
Geez, guy... try to make one post without
misspelling the big words...
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"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Stephen Cowell wrote:
> > Could you possibly
> > explain to me why anyone would need to use an
> > arcsin function?
> Out and out gibberish
> Work the problem, you don't need to know why it works.
You didn't try to tell us what an arcsin does...
we notice these things around here.
The whole point of this exercise was to see if
you had an elementary grasp of math... it's
painfully obvious that you don't. Please
refrain from making claims about it in the
future.
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"i recognize my limitations and
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