134a Refrigerant
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> > Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> it changes depending upon what youve already proven wrong. :-)
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
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> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> > Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> it changes depending upon what youve already proven wrong. :-)
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you have to add to this erudite discussion, Nate?
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> > Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> it changes depending upon what youve already proven wrong. :-)
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you have to add to this erudite discussion, Nate?
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Well..... I did go to a public school.... and a state college..... if you
want to call it that...
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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>> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
>> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank
>> which
>> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical
>> endcaps.
>
> The ones I've seen have been right circular cylinders, in
> repose. We can do the spherical endcaps as an exercise
> later...
>
>> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> You have a comprehension problem as well?
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
want to call it that...
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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>> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
>> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank
>> which
>> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical
>> endcaps.
>
> The ones I've seen have been right circular cylinders, in
> repose. We can do the spherical endcaps as an exercise
> later...
>
>> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> You have a comprehension problem as well?
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
#4235
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Well..... I did go to a public school.... and a state college..... if you
want to call it that...
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:92d09$42f7f15d$42a1cc8c$25145@FUSE.NET...
>> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
>> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank
>> which
>> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical
>> endcaps.
>
> The ones I've seen have been right circular cylinders, in
> repose. We can do the spherical endcaps as an exercise
> later...
>
>> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> You have a comprehension problem as well?
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
want to call it that...
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:92d09$42f7f15d$42a1cc8c$25145@FUSE.NET...
>> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
>> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank
>> which
>> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical
>> endcaps.
>
> The ones I've seen have been right circular cylinders, in
> repose. We can do the spherical endcaps as an exercise
> later...
>
>> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> You have a comprehension problem as well?
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
#4236
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Well..... I did go to a public school.... and a state college..... if you
want to call it that...
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:92d09$42f7f15d$42a1cc8c$25145@FUSE.NET...
>> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
>> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank
>> which
>> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical
>> endcaps.
>
> The ones I've seen have been right circular cylinders, in
> repose. We can do the spherical endcaps as an exercise
> later...
>
>> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> You have a comprehension problem as well?
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
want to call it that...
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:wWTJe.783$FV1.247@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:92d09$42f7f15d$42a1cc8c$25145@FUSE.NET...
>> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
>> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank
>> which
>> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical
>> endcaps.
>
> The ones I've seen have been right circular cylinders, in
> repose. We can do the spherical endcaps as an exercise
> later...
>
>> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> You have a comprehension problem as well?
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Well..... I did go to a public school.... and a state college..... if you
want to call it that...
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:92d09$42f7f15d$42a1cc8c$25145@FUSE.NET...
>> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
>> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank
>> which
>> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical
>> endcaps.
>
> The ones I've seen have been right circular cylinders, in
> repose. We can do the spherical endcaps as an exercise
> later...
>
>> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> You have a comprehension problem as well?
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
want to call it that...
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:wWTJe.783$FV1.247@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:92d09$42f7f15d$42a1cc8c$25145@FUSE.NET...
>> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
>> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank
>> which
>> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical
>> endcaps.
>
> The ones I've seen have been right circular cylinders, in
> repose. We can do the spherical endcaps as an exercise
> later...
>
>> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> You have a comprehension problem as well?
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:18KJe.219$Vt7.48@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com.. .
> >> lol you really desperate to find ANY type of victory! :-) youre
pitiful
> >> stephen! :-) cryo has nothing to do with commercial refrigeration.
you
> >> find me ANY company in montana who handles cryo. you cant.
> >
> > What does that have to do with your knowlege?
>
> cryo simply is not a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
It is when you need 15K temperatures... such as
sensitive satellite receivers, like the ones I worked
on. Just because you can't/don't make money
at it, doesn't mean that it's not a field of study
in your chosen vocation... one you *forgot* about
when crowing about your so-called encyclopedic
knowlege of refrigeration.
> > you just said that the only
> > thing you didn't know about refrigeration was
> > geo.
>
> LIAR. i said the only thing i wasnt _qualified_ in. and cryo isnt
> commercial refrigeration. :-)
You said:
>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
>source/geo thermal.
Couldn't be plainer. The phrase "commercial refrigeration" never
came up. Busted your *****... or ball, as the case may be!
> >> lol youve dont NOTHING more than mention the name! give me working
> >> pressures. give me componentry. give me the PMB.
> >
> > I've given enough
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i cant"
Like I said, kiss my *** for it... why should I share
any more information about me, with you? You
don't tell us ----... you never even explained what
you'd use for a head-pressure control substitute!
> BUWHAHAHA! :-)
You could see a doctor about that buwhahaha...
> >> you dont know ANY of that, so run do a google and see if you can find
> >> anything out.
> >
> > Why would I even bother?
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i couldnt find anything on it"
I haven't tried, Nate... been there, done that. I'm sure
you've been googling your little brains out in the
meantime... try the VLA main site, they might have some
stuff to help you out:
http://www.vla.nrao.edu/
> BUWAHAHA! :-)
See what I mean! Doc can help with that...
> > You have a business on
> > the line!
>
> lol....yeah, my business is dependent upon this newsgroup! :-) <rolling
> eyes>
Just a friendly reminder that your ethics are
on display for everyone to see... and read...
for decades to come.
> > No, 'substitute' and 'bypass' are two different
> > things
>
> and your "solution" is still totally assinine and ridiculous. :-)
Until you give reasons, you're just making more
***-smoke. What would *you* replace a head
pressure control with?
> > you started screaming about
> > 'low ambient', which was *never* a *limiting condition*
> > in any post originating this challenge.
>
> LIAR! it was clearly in my original post TO YOU because YOU were the only
> ignorant fool who would actually attempt to debate something they know
> NOTHING about.
Like the atmosphere? And the ozone layer?
Describe for us your background in ozone
science... surely you must have some kind
of certification... like a college degree, or
something? Maybe even a high-school degree?
> > Because I'm right.. no low ambient
> > means no head pressure control necessary
>
> you really are ------- stupid arent you?
You're starting to twitch, Nate!
> > you may
> > have to remove refrigerant to make this work
>
> lol and ------- ignorant too! your solution will NOT work because the
load
> continually changes. you need something to react with the changes in load
> to regulate the working pressures. its a constant dynamic setting and
> unless you want to stand there watching your gauges and adjusting your
> ridiculously assinine "two valves and a pipe" (BUWHAHAH!!!!!) 24/7 then
your
> solution is a failure. try again.
The valves were there to let you put the
proper head pressure control in when the
part arrived... I've since decided that no
valves would be good enough, so the
system would have to be evacuated,
anyway... doesn't matter.
> > OK, here's the mistake I made on the valve thing
>
> your mistake was speaking from PURE ignorance.
Like your assertion about the ozone layer?
> > there are no valves that are good enough.... notice the
> > complete lack of same in any system. It has to be a sweat
> > connection.
>
> TOTALLY irrelevant. nice straw-man.
I agree... you have attempted to deflect
your complete and utter defeat regarding
ozone science using this challenge that
you ended up welching on anyway...
you just can't win for losing! Either you
have limitations, or you are all-knowing...
which is it? We're all watching!
> > This means that the entire system has to be
> > evacuated in order to work on it, big PITA.
>
> WRONG!!!!!!! you could pump it down into its own reciever and valve off
the
> cut point in less than 2 minutes. next? BUWAHAHA! :-)
There's that cough again! Isn't this like you
asserting that CFC's don't get up to the ozone
layer? Isn't this just like making pronouncements
about stuff you don't have any clue about?
>
> > Even the injection
> > points, the ones that use Schrader valves, have caps
> > on them.
>
> irrelevant.
>
> >> > You don't have to have certs to work on cryo
> >>
> >> LIAR. try again.
> >
> > You don't.
>
> LIAR.
See? What an idiot... no link, no nothing.
Just more smoke from his butt.
> > I maintained cryo systems for five years
>
> sweeping the floors and wiping the dust off the system is NOT maintaining
> cryo. if you truly maintained the systems you could tell me the PMB, the
> working pressures, etc. nice try, LIAR.
Pulling the refrigerator, honing the cylinder,
cleaning the cylinder, replacing the fiber
rings and keeper, evacuating the refrigerator...
pressurise the refrigerator, then connect the
self-sealing hose connections. Start the control
system up... it will automatically use the normal
vacuum pump until it gives out, then close the
solenoid and start cryo-pumping down to millitorr
vacuum. At this low a vacuum, you have to use
a thermocouple vacuum sensor... there's a heated
element next to a temperature sensor, any heat
reading above that expected from radiation
must be conducted by a gas... very sensitive.
The refrigerators are two-stage piston type,
with a larger fiber piston at bottom and a
thinner fiber piston at the top. The helium is
sprayed in at 200psi, then pumped out by
the fiber pistons at 65psi... the difference is
used to cool the two temperature stations,
one at 50K and the other at 15K. The 50K
station has large metal pieces to precipitate
frozen gas onto... this is the cryo-pumping
action that takes the vacuum way down.
With a set of crossed dipoles connected to
HEMT transistors, you can hear the farts of
a star a billion light-years away. I suppose
you could say that the PMB is achieving
15K... good enough.
Pearls before swine... just for you, Nate,
my favorite pig.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
..
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:18KJe.219$Vt7.48@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com.. .
> >> lol you really desperate to find ANY type of victory! :-) youre
pitiful
> >> stephen! :-) cryo has nothing to do with commercial refrigeration.
you
> >> find me ANY company in montana who handles cryo. you cant.
> >
> > What does that have to do with your knowlege?
>
> cryo simply is not a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
It is when you need 15K temperatures... such as
sensitive satellite receivers, like the ones I worked
on. Just because you can't/don't make money
at it, doesn't mean that it's not a field of study
in your chosen vocation... one you *forgot* about
when crowing about your so-called encyclopedic
knowlege of refrigeration.
> > you just said that the only
> > thing you didn't know about refrigeration was
> > geo.
>
> LIAR. i said the only thing i wasnt _qualified_ in. and cryo isnt
> commercial refrigeration. :-)
You said:
>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
>source/geo thermal.
Couldn't be plainer. The phrase "commercial refrigeration" never
came up. Busted your *****... or ball, as the case may be!
> >> lol youve dont NOTHING more than mention the name! give me working
> >> pressures. give me componentry. give me the PMB.
> >
> > I've given enough
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i cant"
Like I said, kiss my *** for it... why should I share
any more information about me, with you? You
don't tell us ----... you never even explained what
you'd use for a head-pressure control substitute!
> BUWHAHAHA! :-)
You could see a doctor about that buwhahaha...
> >> you dont know ANY of that, so run do a google and see if you can find
> >> anything out.
> >
> > Why would I even bother?
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i couldnt find anything on it"
I haven't tried, Nate... been there, done that. I'm sure
you've been googling your little brains out in the
meantime... try the VLA main site, they might have some
stuff to help you out:
http://www.vla.nrao.edu/
> BUWAHAHA! :-)
See what I mean! Doc can help with that...
> > You have a business on
> > the line!
>
> lol....yeah, my business is dependent upon this newsgroup! :-) <rolling
> eyes>
Just a friendly reminder that your ethics are
on display for everyone to see... and read...
for decades to come.
> > No, 'substitute' and 'bypass' are two different
> > things
>
> and your "solution" is still totally assinine and ridiculous. :-)
Until you give reasons, you're just making more
***-smoke. What would *you* replace a head
pressure control with?
> > you started screaming about
> > 'low ambient', which was *never* a *limiting condition*
> > in any post originating this challenge.
>
> LIAR! it was clearly in my original post TO YOU because YOU were the only
> ignorant fool who would actually attempt to debate something they know
> NOTHING about.
Like the atmosphere? And the ozone layer?
Describe for us your background in ozone
science... surely you must have some kind
of certification... like a college degree, or
something? Maybe even a high-school degree?
> > Because I'm right.. no low ambient
> > means no head pressure control necessary
>
> you really are ------- stupid arent you?
You're starting to twitch, Nate!
> > you may
> > have to remove refrigerant to make this work
>
> lol and ------- ignorant too! your solution will NOT work because the
load
> continually changes. you need something to react with the changes in load
> to regulate the working pressures. its a constant dynamic setting and
> unless you want to stand there watching your gauges and adjusting your
> ridiculously assinine "two valves and a pipe" (BUWHAHAH!!!!!) 24/7 then
your
> solution is a failure. try again.
The valves were there to let you put the
proper head pressure control in when the
part arrived... I've since decided that no
valves would be good enough, so the
system would have to be evacuated,
anyway... doesn't matter.
> > OK, here's the mistake I made on the valve thing
>
> your mistake was speaking from PURE ignorance.
Like your assertion about the ozone layer?
> > there are no valves that are good enough.... notice the
> > complete lack of same in any system. It has to be a sweat
> > connection.
>
> TOTALLY irrelevant. nice straw-man.
I agree... you have attempted to deflect
your complete and utter defeat regarding
ozone science using this challenge that
you ended up welching on anyway...
you just can't win for losing! Either you
have limitations, or you are all-knowing...
which is it? We're all watching!
> > This means that the entire system has to be
> > evacuated in order to work on it, big PITA.
>
> WRONG!!!!!!! you could pump it down into its own reciever and valve off
the
> cut point in less than 2 minutes. next? BUWAHAHA! :-)
There's that cough again! Isn't this like you
asserting that CFC's don't get up to the ozone
layer? Isn't this just like making pronouncements
about stuff you don't have any clue about?
>
> > Even the injection
> > points, the ones that use Schrader valves, have caps
> > on them.
>
> irrelevant.
>
> >> > You don't have to have certs to work on cryo
> >>
> >> LIAR. try again.
> >
> > You don't.
>
> LIAR.
See? What an idiot... no link, no nothing.
Just more smoke from his butt.
> > I maintained cryo systems for five years
>
> sweeping the floors and wiping the dust off the system is NOT maintaining
> cryo. if you truly maintained the systems you could tell me the PMB, the
> working pressures, etc. nice try, LIAR.
Pulling the refrigerator, honing the cylinder,
cleaning the cylinder, replacing the fiber
rings and keeper, evacuating the refrigerator...
pressurise the refrigerator, then connect the
self-sealing hose connections. Start the control
system up... it will automatically use the normal
vacuum pump until it gives out, then close the
solenoid and start cryo-pumping down to millitorr
vacuum. At this low a vacuum, you have to use
a thermocouple vacuum sensor... there's a heated
element next to a temperature sensor, any heat
reading above that expected from radiation
must be conducted by a gas... very sensitive.
The refrigerators are two-stage piston type,
with a larger fiber piston at bottom and a
thinner fiber piston at the top. The helium is
sprayed in at 200psi, then pumped out by
the fiber pistons at 65psi... the difference is
used to cool the two temperature stations,
one at 50K and the other at 15K. The 50K
station has large metal pieces to precipitate
frozen gas onto... this is the cryo-pumping
action that takes the vacuum way down.
With a set of crossed dipoles connected to
HEMT transistors, you can hear the farts of
a star a billion light-years away. I suppose
you could say that the PMB is achieving
15K... good enough.
Pearls before swine... just for you, Nate,
my favorite pig.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
..
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11ffh87a7p7d159@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:18KJe.219$Vt7.48@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com.. .
> >> lol you really desperate to find ANY type of victory! :-) youre
pitiful
> >> stephen! :-) cryo has nothing to do with commercial refrigeration.
you
> >> find me ANY company in montana who handles cryo. you cant.
> >
> > What does that have to do with your knowlege?
>
> cryo simply is not a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
It is when you need 15K temperatures... such as
sensitive satellite receivers, like the ones I worked
on. Just because you can't/don't make money
at it, doesn't mean that it's not a field of study
in your chosen vocation... one you *forgot* about
when crowing about your so-called encyclopedic
knowlege of refrigeration.
> > you just said that the only
> > thing you didn't know about refrigeration was
> > geo.
>
> LIAR. i said the only thing i wasnt _qualified_ in. and cryo isnt
> commercial refrigeration. :-)
You said:
>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
>source/geo thermal.
Couldn't be plainer. The phrase "commercial refrigeration" never
came up. Busted your *****... or ball, as the case may be!
> >> lol youve dont NOTHING more than mention the name! give me working
> >> pressures. give me componentry. give me the PMB.
> >
> > I've given enough
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i cant"
Like I said, kiss my *** for it... why should I share
any more information about me, with you? You
don't tell us ----... you never even explained what
you'd use for a head-pressure control substitute!
> BUWHAHAHA! :-)
You could see a doctor about that buwhahaha...
> >> you dont know ANY of that, so run do a google and see if you can find
> >> anything out.
> >
> > Why would I even bother?
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i couldnt find anything on it"
I haven't tried, Nate... been there, done that. I'm sure
you've been googling your little brains out in the
meantime... try the VLA main site, they might have some
stuff to help you out:
http://www.vla.nrao.edu/
> BUWAHAHA! :-)
See what I mean! Doc can help with that...
> > You have a business on
> > the line!
>
> lol....yeah, my business is dependent upon this newsgroup! :-) <rolling
> eyes>
Just a friendly reminder that your ethics are
on display for everyone to see... and read...
for decades to come.
> > No, 'substitute' and 'bypass' are two different
> > things
>
> and your "solution" is still totally assinine and ridiculous. :-)
Until you give reasons, you're just making more
***-smoke. What would *you* replace a head
pressure control with?
> > you started screaming about
> > 'low ambient', which was *never* a *limiting condition*
> > in any post originating this challenge.
>
> LIAR! it was clearly in my original post TO YOU because YOU were the only
> ignorant fool who would actually attempt to debate something they know
> NOTHING about.
Like the atmosphere? And the ozone layer?
Describe for us your background in ozone
science... surely you must have some kind
of certification... like a college degree, or
something? Maybe even a high-school degree?
> > Because I'm right.. no low ambient
> > means no head pressure control necessary
>
> you really are ------- stupid arent you?
You're starting to twitch, Nate!
> > you may
> > have to remove refrigerant to make this work
>
> lol and ------- ignorant too! your solution will NOT work because the
load
> continually changes. you need something to react with the changes in load
> to regulate the working pressures. its a constant dynamic setting and
> unless you want to stand there watching your gauges and adjusting your
> ridiculously assinine "two valves and a pipe" (BUWHAHAH!!!!!) 24/7 then
your
> solution is a failure. try again.
The valves were there to let you put the
proper head pressure control in when the
part arrived... I've since decided that no
valves would be good enough, so the
system would have to be evacuated,
anyway... doesn't matter.
> > OK, here's the mistake I made on the valve thing
>
> your mistake was speaking from PURE ignorance.
Like your assertion about the ozone layer?
> > there are no valves that are good enough.... notice the
> > complete lack of same in any system. It has to be a sweat
> > connection.
>
> TOTALLY irrelevant. nice straw-man.
I agree... you have attempted to deflect
your complete and utter defeat regarding
ozone science using this challenge that
you ended up welching on anyway...
you just can't win for losing! Either you
have limitations, or you are all-knowing...
which is it? We're all watching!
> > This means that the entire system has to be
> > evacuated in order to work on it, big PITA.
>
> WRONG!!!!!!! you could pump it down into its own reciever and valve off
the
> cut point in less than 2 minutes. next? BUWAHAHA! :-)
There's that cough again! Isn't this like you
asserting that CFC's don't get up to the ozone
layer? Isn't this just like making pronouncements
about stuff you don't have any clue about?
>
> > Even the injection
> > points, the ones that use Schrader valves, have caps
> > on them.
>
> irrelevant.
>
> >> > You don't have to have certs to work on cryo
> >>
> >> LIAR. try again.
> >
> > You don't.
>
> LIAR.
See? What an idiot... no link, no nothing.
Just more smoke from his butt.
> > I maintained cryo systems for five years
>
> sweeping the floors and wiping the dust off the system is NOT maintaining
> cryo. if you truly maintained the systems you could tell me the PMB, the
> working pressures, etc. nice try, LIAR.
Pulling the refrigerator, honing the cylinder,
cleaning the cylinder, replacing the fiber
rings and keeper, evacuating the refrigerator...
pressurise the refrigerator, then connect the
self-sealing hose connections. Start the control
system up... it will automatically use the normal
vacuum pump until it gives out, then close the
solenoid and start cryo-pumping down to millitorr
vacuum. At this low a vacuum, you have to use
a thermocouple vacuum sensor... there's a heated
element next to a temperature sensor, any heat
reading above that expected from radiation
must be conducted by a gas... very sensitive.
The refrigerators are two-stage piston type,
with a larger fiber piston at bottom and a
thinner fiber piston at the top. The helium is
sprayed in at 200psi, then pumped out by
the fiber pistons at 65psi... the difference is
used to cool the two temperature stations,
one at 50K and the other at 15K. The 50K
station has large metal pieces to precipitate
frozen gas onto... this is the cryo-pumping
action that takes the vacuum way down.
With a set of crossed dipoles connected to
HEMT transistors, you can hear the farts of
a star a billion light-years away. I suppose
you could say that the PMB is achieving
15K... good enough.
Pearls before swine... just for you, Nate,
my favorite pig.
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Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
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