134a Refrigerant
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:18KJe.219$Vt7.48@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com.. .
> >> lol you really desperate to find ANY type of victory! :-) youre
pitiful
> >> stephen! :-) cryo has nothing to do with commercial refrigeration.
you
> >> find me ANY company in montana who handles cryo. you cant.
> >
> > What does that have to do with your knowlege?
>
> cryo simply is not a part of commercial refrigeration. grasp boy! :-)
It is when you need 15K temperatures... such as
sensitive satellite receivers, like the ones I worked
on. Just because you can't/don't make money
at it, doesn't mean that it's not a field of study
in your chosen vocation... one you *forgot* about
when crowing about your so-called encyclopedic
knowlege of refrigeration.
> > you just said that the only
> > thing you didn't know about refrigeration was
> > geo.
>
> LIAR. i said the only thing i wasnt _qualified_ in. and cryo isnt
> commercial refrigeration. :-)
You said:
>the only area i dont consider myself qualified on yet is ground
>source/geo thermal.
Couldn't be plainer. The phrase "commercial refrigeration" never
came up. Busted your *****... or ball, as the case may be!
> >> lol youve dont NOTHING more than mention the name! give me working
> >> pressures. give me componentry. give me the PMB.
> >
> > I've given enough
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i cant"
Like I said, kiss my *** for it... why should I share
any more information about me, with you? You
don't tell us ----... you never even explained what
you'd use for a head-pressure control substitute!
> BUWHAHAHA! :-)
You could see a doctor about that buwhahaha...
> >> you dont know ANY of that, so run do a google and see if you can find
> >> anything out.
> >
> > Why would I even bother?
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i couldnt find anything on it"
I haven't tried, Nate... been there, done that. I'm sure
you've been googling your little brains out in the
meantime... try the VLA main site, they might have some
stuff to help you out:
http://www.vla.nrao.edu/
> BUWAHAHA! :-)
See what I mean! Doc can help with that...
> > You have a business on
> > the line!
>
> lol....yeah, my business is dependent upon this newsgroup! :-) <rolling
> eyes>
Just a friendly reminder that your ethics are
on display for everyone to see... and read...
for decades to come.
> > No, 'substitute' and 'bypass' are two different
> > things
>
> and your "solution" is still totally assinine and ridiculous. :-)
Until you give reasons, you're just making more
***-smoke. What would *you* replace a head
pressure control with?
> > you started screaming about
> > 'low ambient', which was *never* a *limiting condition*
> > in any post originating this challenge.
>
> LIAR! it was clearly in my original post TO YOU because YOU were the only
> ignorant fool who would actually attempt to debate something they know
> NOTHING about.
Like the atmosphere? And the ozone layer?
Describe for us your background in ozone
science... surely you must have some kind
of certification... like a college degree, or
something? Maybe even a high-school degree?
> > Because I'm right.. no low ambient
> > means no head pressure control necessary
>
> you really are ------- stupid arent you?
You're starting to twitch, Nate!
> > you may
> > have to remove refrigerant to make this work
>
> lol and ------- ignorant too! your solution will NOT work because the
load
> continually changes. you need something to react with the changes in load
> to regulate the working pressures. its a constant dynamic setting and
> unless you want to stand there watching your gauges and adjusting your
> ridiculously assinine "two valves and a pipe" (BUWHAHAH!!!!!) 24/7 then
your
> solution is a failure. try again.
The valves were there to let you put the
proper head pressure control in when the
part arrived... I've since decided that no
valves would be good enough, so the
system would have to be evacuated,
anyway... doesn't matter.
> > OK, here's the mistake I made on the valve thing
>
> your mistake was speaking from PURE ignorance.
Like your assertion about the ozone layer?
> > there are no valves that are good enough.... notice the
> > complete lack of same in any system. It has to be a sweat
> > connection.
>
> TOTALLY irrelevant. nice straw-man.
I agree... you have attempted to deflect
your complete and utter defeat regarding
ozone science using this challenge that
you ended up welching on anyway...
you just can't win for losing! Either you
have limitations, or you are all-knowing...
which is it? We're all watching!
> > This means that the entire system has to be
> > evacuated in order to work on it, big PITA.
>
> WRONG!!!!!!! you could pump it down into its own reciever and valve off
the
> cut point in less than 2 minutes. next? BUWAHAHA! :-)
There's that cough again! Isn't this like you
asserting that CFC's don't get up to the ozone
layer? Isn't this just like making pronouncements
about stuff you don't have any clue about?
>
> > Even the injection
> > points, the ones that use Schrader valves, have caps
> > on them.
>
> irrelevant.
>
> >> > You don't have to have certs to work on cryo
> >>
> >> LIAR. try again.
> >
> > You don't.
>
> LIAR.
See? What an idiot... no link, no nothing.
Just more smoke from his butt.
> > I maintained cryo systems for five years
>
> sweeping the floors and wiping the dust off the system is NOT maintaining
> cryo. if you truly maintained the systems you could tell me the PMB, the
> working pressures, etc. nice try, LIAR.
Pulling the refrigerator, honing the cylinder,
cleaning the cylinder, replacing the fiber
rings and keeper, evacuating the refrigerator...
pressurise the refrigerator, then connect the
self-sealing hose connections. Start the control
system up... it will automatically use the normal
vacuum pump until it gives out, then close the
solenoid and start cryo-pumping down to millitorr
vacuum. At this low a vacuum, you have to use
a thermocouple vacuum sensor... there's a heated
element next to a temperature sensor, any heat
reading above that expected from radiation
must be conducted by a gas... very sensitive.
The refrigerators are two-stage piston type,
with a larger fiber piston at bottom and a
thinner fiber piston at the top. The helium is
sprayed in at 200psi, then pumped out by
the fiber pistons at 65psi... the difference is
used to cool the two temperature stations,
one at 50K and the other at 15K. The 50K
station has large metal pieces to precipitate
frozen gas onto... this is the cryo-pumping
action that takes the vacuum way down.
With a set of crossed dipoles connected to
HEMT transistors, you can hear the farts of
a star a billion light-years away. I suppose
you could say that the PMB is achieving
15K... good enough.
Pearls before swine... just for you, Nate,
my favorite pig.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:om4Je.331$bV2.283@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >> LIAR! my specification was clear in my VERY FIRST post to you telling
> >> you
> >> what an HMC was to begin with.
> >
> > Don't spin so hard
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response". :-) it was in my very first post
to
> you telling you what an HMc was to begin with. you choked on it boy. :-)
That post had no challenge...
> > Then why the incredible battle over low ambient?
>
> because without it there is little reason to not just change the HMC so
you
> can complete the job in one service call instead of having to return later
> to replace it. having a -30 (or comparable) ambient is a justifiable
reason
> to take two service calls to make the repair. i suppose being in the
middle
> of a thunderstorm would be another reason, but you can usually wait that
> out.
We're not talking about 'changing' the head pressure
control... that never came up. We're stuck 'in a pinch',
which means we don't have a replacement part on
hand... or are you going to welch on that part of
the challenge too?
> > Believe it or not, *anything* can develop a leak...
>
> certainly, but its not a realistic expectation. i do understand why you
> would grasp at anything you can dream up at this point though. :-)
Now I know how you must have felt when I
busted your ***** over that ozone thing! I'm
so sorry that I caused you so much pain...
I'll never make stupid, asinine, ignorant assertions
using the smoke out of my butt, ever again!
> >> two valves and a straight piece of pipe......BUWHAHAHA! :-)
> >
> > Until you give an alternative, you're just pissing in
> > the wind...
>
> lol ok tell ya what. you tell me why your recommendation is SO LAUGHABLE
> first, and then ill give you the _real_ alternative to changing the HMC in
a
> pinch. :-)
Until you give an alternative, you're just pissing in
the wind...
> > I did read somewhere about -30 degrees.. it was not in
> > the original challenge
>
> LIAR! it was in my original challenge TO YOU.
There was no challenge in that post... go back and
read it again. You continue to spin.
> >> yeah, because of your two valves and a pipe. LOL!
> >
> > I had won the challenge long before I posted that
>
> lol HOW in the hell do you figure you won when your suggestion is TOTALLY
> WRONG? :-)
More butt smoke!
> > and
> > you haven't explained why it wouldn't work!
>
> lol what a stool! pressure is dynamic and load is dynamic! are you going
> to stand there 24/7 adjusting the valves continually to meet the changing
> load?
The valves had no functional duty... they were spec'ed
to allow later replacement of the faulty head pressure
control. The changing load is handled by the thermo-
electric valve... the 'needle valve' I mentioned in my
first challenge answer. Ever hear of a TEV?
> > OK, I'll
> > give you a vacuum bleeder fitting on the piece of
> > pipe... happy now?
>
> as pathetic and assinine as your two valves and a pipe. LOL
Butt smoke!
> >> LIAR. i clearly stated -30 degrees.
> >
> > We can all read, Nate... it's so obvious.
>
> exactly! its obvious that i clearly stated -30 degrees yet you still try
to
> LIE your way out of it.
Desperate measures... how you twitch!
> > > pages with "proudliberal" in their web address to be impartial sources
of
> > > credible information. LOL!
> > See? More logical fallacies... you're claiming that if
> > the site said "the earth is almost spherical" then that would
> > be wrong... that's the worst kind of fallacy. It means that
> > you can't, or won't, acknowlege the truth when it is in front
> > of you. What if the site said 'proudconservative'? Would it
> > be wrong then too? You are indeed a case...
>
> what a stupid analogy (then again, after your two valves and a pipe thing
> nothing surprises me! :-)
We can all see your limitations, Nate... own them.
> the earth is proven to be spherical. the whole refrigerant/ozone thing
isnt
> proven.
You can't, or won't, accept the truth
when presented with it... that makes
you both a curmudgeon, and a liar.
You welched on a challenge that you
issued... that makes you unsportsmanlike.
You claimed that a mixture and a compound
were the same thing... that makes you ignorant.
You keep calling me a liar, which makes you
an -------... you, sir, are a curmudgeonly
lying, welching, unsportsmanlike, ignorant
-------... and it's been my distinct pleasure
to elicit these qualities from you for worldly
display. Keep it up.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:om4Je.331$bV2.283@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >> LIAR! my specification was clear in my VERY FIRST post to you telling
> >> you
> >> what an HMC was to begin with.
> >
> > Don't spin so hard
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response". :-) it was in my very first post
to
> you telling you what an HMc was to begin with. you choked on it boy. :-)
That post had no challenge...
> > Then why the incredible battle over low ambient?
>
> because without it there is little reason to not just change the HMC so
you
> can complete the job in one service call instead of having to return later
> to replace it. having a -30 (or comparable) ambient is a justifiable
reason
> to take two service calls to make the repair. i suppose being in the
middle
> of a thunderstorm would be another reason, but you can usually wait that
> out.
We're not talking about 'changing' the head pressure
control... that never came up. We're stuck 'in a pinch',
which means we don't have a replacement part on
hand... or are you going to welch on that part of
the challenge too?
> > Believe it or not, *anything* can develop a leak...
>
> certainly, but its not a realistic expectation. i do understand why you
> would grasp at anything you can dream up at this point though. :-)
Now I know how you must have felt when I
busted your ***** over that ozone thing! I'm
so sorry that I caused you so much pain...
I'll never make stupid, asinine, ignorant assertions
using the smoke out of my butt, ever again!
> >> two valves and a straight piece of pipe......BUWHAHAHA! :-)
> >
> > Until you give an alternative, you're just pissing in
> > the wind...
>
> lol ok tell ya what. you tell me why your recommendation is SO LAUGHABLE
> first, and then ill give you the _real_ alternative to changing the HMC in
a
> pinch. :-)
Until you give an alternative, you're just pissing in
the wind...
> > I did read somewhere about -30 degrees.. it was not in
> > the original challenge
>
> LIAR! it was in my original challenge TO YOU.
There was no challenge in that post... go back and
read it again. You continue to spin.
> >> yeah, because of your two valves and a pipe. LOL!
> >
> > I had won the challenge long before I posted that
>
> lol HOW in the hell do you figure you won when your suggestion is TOTALLY
> WRONG? :-)
More butt smoke!
> > and
> > you haven't explained why it wouldn't work!
>
> lol what a stool! pressure is dynamic and load is dynamic! are you going
> to stand there 24/7 adjusting the valves continually to meet the changing
> load?
The valves had no functional duty... they were spec'ed
to allow later replacement of the faulty head pressure
control. The changing load is handled by the thermo-
electric valve... the 'needle valve' I mentioned in my
first challenge answer. Ever hear of a TEV?
> > OK, I'll
> > give you a vacuum bleeder fitting on the piece of
> > pipe... happy now?
>
> as pathetic and assinine as your two valves and a pipe. LOL
Butt smoke!
> >> LIAR. i clearly stated -30 degrees.
> >
> > We can all read, Nate... it's so obvious.
>
> exactly! its obvious that i clearly stated -30 degrees yet you still try
to
> LIE your way out of it.
Desperate measures... how you twitch!
> > > pages with "proudliberal" in their web address to be impartial sources
of
> > > credible information. LOL!
> > See? More logical fallacies... you're claiming that if
> > the site said "the earth is almost spherical" then that would
> > be wrong... that's the worst kind of fallacy. It means that
> > you can't, or won't, acknowlege the truth when it is in front
> > of you. What if the site said 'proudconservative'? Would it
> > be wrong then too? You are indeed a case...
>
> what a stupid analogy (then again, after your two valves and a pipe thing
> nothing surprises me! :-)
We can all see your limitations, Nate... own them.
> the earth is proven to be spherical. the whole refrigerant/ozone thing
isnt
> proven.
You can't, or won't, accept the truth
when presented with it... that makes
you both a curmudgeon, and a liar.
You welched on a challenge that you
issued... that makes you unsportsmanlike.
You claimed that a mixture and a compound
were the same thing... that makes you ignorant.
You keep calling me a liar, which makes you
an -------... you, sir, are a curmudgeonly
lying, welching, unsportsmanlike, ignorant
-------... and it's been my distinct pleasure
to elicit these qualities from you for worldly
display. Keep it up.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
..
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fa2ckjoj3k7fb@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:om4Je.331$bV2.283@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >> LIAR! my specification was clear in my VERY FIRST post to you telling
> >> you
> >> what an HMC was to begin with.
> >
> > Don't spin so hard
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response". :-) it was in my very first post
to
> you telling you what an HMc was to begin with. you choked on it boy. :-)
That post had no challenge...
> > Then why the incredible battle over low ambient?
>
> because without it there is little reason to not just change the HMC so
you
> can complete the job in one service call instead of having to return later
> to replace it. having a -30 (or comparable) ambient is a justifiable
reason
> to take two service calls to make the repair. i suppose being in the
middle
> of a thunderstorm would be another reason, but you can usually wait that
> out.
We're not talking about 'changing' the head pressure
control... that never came up. We're stuck 'in a pinch',
which means we don't have a replacement part on
hand... or are you going to welch on that part of
the challenge too?
> > Believe it or not, *anything* can develop a leak...
>
> certainly, but its not a realistic expectation. i do understand why you
> would grasp at anything you can dream up at this point though. :-)
Now I know how you must have felt when I
busted your ***** over that ozone thing! I'm
so sorry that I caused you so much pain...
I'll never make stupid, asinine, ignorant assertions
using the smoke out of my butt, ever again!
> >> two valves and a straight piece of pipe......BUWHAHAHA! :-)
> >
> > Until you give an alternative, you're just pissing in
> > the wind...
>
> lol ok tell ya what. you tell me why your recommendation is SO LAUGHABLE
> first, and then ill give you the _real_ alternative to changing the HMC in
a
> pinch. :-)
Until you give an alternative, you're just pissing in
the wind...
> > I did read somewhere about -30 degrees.. it was not in
> > the original challenge
>
> LIAR! it was in my original challenge TO YOU.
There was no challenge in that post... go back and
read it again. You continue to spin.
> >> yeah, because of your two valves and a pipe. LOL!
> >
> > I had won the challenge long before I posted that
>
> lol HOW in the hell do you figure you won when your suggestion is TOTALLY
> WRONG? :-)
More butt smoke!
> > and
> > you haven't explained why it wouldn't work!
>
> lol what a stool! pressure is dynamic and load is dynamic! are you going
> to stand there 24/7 adjusting the valves continually to meet the changing
> load?
The valves had no functional duty... they were spec'ed
to allow later replacement of the faulty head pressure
control. The changing load is handled by the thermo-
electric valve... the 'needle valve' I mentioned in my
first challenge answer. Ever hear of a TEV?
> > OK, I'll
> > give you a vacuum bleeder fitting on the piece of
> > pipe... happy now?
>
> as pathetic and assinine as your two valves and a pipe. LOL
Butt smoke!
> >> LIAR. i clearly stated -30 degrees.
> >
> > We can all read, Nate... it's so obvious.
>
> exactly! its obvious that i clearly stated -30 degrees yet you still try
to
> LIE your way out of it.
Desperate measures... how you twitch!
> > > pages with "proudliberal" in their web address to be impartial sources
of
> > > credible information. LOL!
> > See? More logical fallacies... you're claiming that if
> > the site said "the earth is almost spherical" then that would
> > be wrong... that's the worst kind of fallacy. It means that
> > you can't, or won't, acknowlege the truth when it is in front
> > of you. What if the site said 'proudconservative'? Would it
> > be wrong then too? You are indeed a case...
>
> what a stupid analogy (then again, after your two valves and a pipe thing
> nothing surprises me! :-)
We can all see your limitations, Nate... own them.
> the earth is proven to be spherical. the whole refrigerant/ozone thing
isnt
> proven.
You can't, or won't, accept the truth
when presented with it... that makes
you both a curmudgeon, and a liar.
You welched on a challenge that you
issued... that makes you unsportsmanlike.
You claimed that a mixture and a compound
were the same thing... that makes you ignorant.
You keep calling me a liar, which makes you
an -------... you, sir, are a curmudgeonly
lying, welching, unsportsmanlike, ignorant
-------... and it's been my distinct pleasure
to elicit these qualities from you for worldly
display. Keep it up.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
..
#4245
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fa2ckjoj3k7fb@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:om4Je.331$bV2.283@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net. ..
> >> LIAR! my specification was clear in my VERY FIRST post to you telling
> >> you
> >> what an HMC was to begin with.
> >
> > Don't spin so hard
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response". :-) it was in my very first post
to
> you telling you what an HMc was to begin with. you choked on it boy. :-)
That post had no challenge...
> > Then why the incredible battle over low ambient?
>
> because without it there is little reason to not just change the HMC so
you
> can complete the job in one service call instead of having to return later
> to replace it. having a -30 (or comparable) ambient is a justifiable
reason
> to take two service calls to make the repair. i suppose being in the
middle
> of a thunderstorm would be another reason, but you can usually wait that
> out.
We're not talking about 'changing' the head pressure
control... that never came up. We're stuck 'in a pinch',
which means we don't have a replacement part on
hand... or are you going to welch on that part of
the challenge too?
> > Believe it or not, *anything* can develop a leak...
>
> certainly, but its not a realistic expectation. i do understand why you
> would grasp at anything you can dream up at this point though. :-)
Now I know how you must have felt when I
busted your ***** over that ozone thing! I'm
so sorry that I caused you so much pain...
I'll never make stupid, asinine, ignorant assertions
using the smoke out of my butt, ever again!
> >> two valves and a straight piece of pipe......BUWHAHAHA! :-)
> >
> > Until you give an alternative, you're just pissing in
> > the wind...
>
> lol ok tell ya what. you tell me why your recommendation is SO LAUGHABLE
> first, and then ill give you the _real_ alternative to changing the HMC in
a
> pinch. :-)
Until you give an alternative, you're just pissing in
the wind...
> > I did read somewhere about -30 degrees.. it was not in
> > the original challenge
>
> LIAR! it was in my original challenge TO YOU.
There was no challenge in that post... go back and
read it again. You continue to spin.
> >> yeah, because of your two valves and a pipe. LOL!
> >
> > I had won the challenge long before I posted that
>
> lol HOW in the hell do you figure you won when your suggestion is TOTALLY
> WRONG? :-)
More butt smoke!
> > and
> > you haven't explained why it wouldn't work!
>
> lol what a stool! pressure is dynamic and load is dynamic! are you going
> to stand there 24/7 adjusting the valves continually to meet the changing
> load?
The valves had no functional duty... they were spec'ed
to allow later replacement of the faulty head pressure
control. The changing load is handled by the thermo-
electric valve... the 'needle valve' I mentioned in my
first challenge answer. Ever hear of a TEV?
> > OK, I'll
> > give you a vacuum bleeder fitting on the piece of
> > pipe... happy now?
>
> as pathetic and assinine as your two valves and a pipe. LOL
Butt smoke!
> >> LIAR. i clearly stated -30 degrees.
> >
> > We can all read, Nate... it's so obvious.
>
> exactly! its obvious that i clearly stated -30 degrees yet you still try
to
> LIE your way out of it.
Desperate measures... how you twitch!
> > > pages with "proudliberal" in their web address to be impartial sources
of
> > > credible information. LOL!
> > See? More logical fallacies... you're claiming that if
> > the site said "the earth is almost spherical" then that would
> > be wrong... that's the worst kind of fallacy. It means that
> > you can't, or won't, acknowlege the truth when it is in front
> > of you. What if the site said 'proudconservative'? Would it
> > be wrong then too? You are indeed a case...
>
> what a stupid analogy (then again, after your two valves and a pipe thing
> nothing surprises me! :-)
We can all see your limitations, Nate... own them.
> the earth is proven to be spherical. the whole refrigerant/ozone thing
isnt
> proven.
You can't, or won't, accept the truth
when presented with it... that makes
you both a curmudgeon, and a liar.
You welched on a challenge that you
issued... that makes you unsportsmanlike.
You claimed that a mixture and a compound
were the same thing... that makes you ignorant.
You keep calling me a liar, which makes you
an -------... you, sir, are a curmudgeonly
lying, welching, unsportsmanlike, ignorant
-------... and it's been my distinct pleasure
to elicit these qualities from you for worldly
display. Keep it up.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
..
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
You originally referred to a gas station storage tank. Mine were
made out of fiber glass, about he same size as a railroad tank car. And
of course they're going to be semi hemispherical for strength. But the
variable is still how to calibrate the gallons to the stick scale marks
graduations. For that I copy and paste again that formula:
360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
360
Your equation only worked when the tank was exactly half full. Any idiot
could tell you that was thirty thousand gallons in my Supreme and
regular tanks. Unleaded is probably in the Supreme tank, since the
nineties.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank which
> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical endcaps.
>
> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42F7E3CE.55D467CA@***.net...
> > You're out of your rabbit a** mind! What does a area of a pie wedge
> > have to with calculating the volume of a storage tank usually measured
> > via the dip stick??????????? Which is the variable! Why do you think the
> > sin of the arc was needed??????????? Remember why we used sin, cosine
> > and tangent?
> > 360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
> > ------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
> > 360
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
> > Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >>
> >> Let's look at what I posted:
> >> <>
> >> For the less-than-half full case:
> >> Half he area of the circular face minus the quantity
> >> twice the area of the triangle plus twice the area
> >> of the pie wedge
> >>
> >> For the more-than-half-full case:
> >> Half the area of the circular face, plus twice the area of
> >> the triangle, plus twice the area of the pie wedge.
> >>
> >> Then times the length. Easy, wasn't it?
> >> </>
> >>
> >> I mentioned the liquid level earlier... really the most
> >> trivial part of the equation, we know we're
> >> starting with a stick reading, don't we? I was most
> >> interested in hearing whether you understood
> >> the decomposition of the equation.
> >>
> >> When you mentioned 'logarithms' the answer was complete:
> >> you haven't a clue.
> >>
> >> Bill, just because you can't read with comprehension
> >> doesn't mean that my analysis was wrong. And if you
> >> can find *anywhere* in your posted equation using
> >> logs, I'll eat my hat.
> >>
> >> And once again, I have to blow your little expectations
> >> away... didn't you get the hint when I said 'stick the
> >> tanks, read the pumps'? How many times do you
> >> think *I've* done that?
> >>
> >> I've worked at many service stations, I'm an
> >> expert tire installer/repairman, I can do truck tires
> >> as well as fuel/service/wash trucks. My first job
> >> was at a Conoco in Lubbock... remember the five-
> >> position mixer pumps? We had those... don't
> >> remember the old man's name, but he had a class
> >> act... only used SprayWay and blue towels on the
> >> windshields. Busted my first tire on his manual
> >> tire machine, really just a post bolted to the concrete
> >> with a spin-down cone and a slip-on bead breaker.
> >> Worked at a BF Goodrich tire dealer for a year...
> >> I can run a Coats 4040a in my sleep. Hunter balancer.
> >> Worked at a Gulf station in Austin for a year (my
> >> parents were Gulf/Chevron jobbers). Worked for a year
> >> at the Texaco truck stop, 183 and IH35... that's
> >> where I learned truck tires and ran a service truck.
> >> I'm leaving out some more SS jobs...
> >> My last SS attendant job was at the Exxon in
> >> Alpine, TX... just out of college, 1998. Did oil
> >> change, lube, car wash... washing cars is good
> >> exercise! Customer relations is perhaps the
> >> most important part of the front/fueling operation...
> >> skills that have served me well in later life.
> >> __
> >> Steve
> >> "i recognize my limitations and
> >> immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
> >> .
made out of fiber glass, about he same size as a railroad tank car. And
of course they're going to be semi hemispherical for strength. But the
variable is still how to calibrate the gallons to the stick scale marks
graduations. For that I copy and paste again that formula:
360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
360
Your equation only worked when the tank was exactly half full. Any idiot
could tell you that was thirty thousand gallons in my Supreme and
regular tanks. Unleaded is probably in the Supreme tank, since the
nineties.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank which
> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical endcaps.
>
> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42F7E3CE.55D467CA@***.net...
> > You're out of your rabbit a** mind! What does a area of a pie wedge
> > have to with calculating the volume of a storage tank usually measured
> > via the dip stick??????????? Which is the variable! Why do you think the
> > sin of the arc was needed??????????? Remember why we used sin, cosine
> > and tangent?
> > 360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
> > ------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
> > 360
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
> > Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >>
> >> Let's look at what I posted:
> >> <>
> >> For the less-than-half full case:
> >> Half he area of the circular face minus the quantity
> >> twice the area of the triangle plus twice the area
> >> of the pie wedge
> >>
> >> For the more-than-half-full case:
> >> Half the area of the circular face, plus twice the area of
> >> the triangle, plus twice the area of the pie wedge.
> >>
> >> Then times the length. Easy, wasn't it?
> >> </>
> >>
> >> I mentioned the liquid level earlier... really the most
> >> trivial part of the equation, we know we're
> >> starting with a stick reading, don't we? I was most
> >> interested in hearing whether you understood
> >> the decomposition of the equation.
> >>
> >> When you mentioned 'logarithms' the answer was complete:
> >> you haven't a clue.
> >>
> >> Bill, just because you can't read with comprehension
> >> doesn't mean that my analysis was wrong. And if you
> >> can find *anywhere* in your posted equation using
> >> logs, I'll eat my hat.
> >>
> >> And once again, I have to blow your little expectations
> >> away... didn't you get the hint when I said 'stick the
> >> tanks, read the pumps'? How many times do you
> >> think *I've* done that?
> >>
> >> I've worked at many service stations, I'm an
> >> expert tire installer/repairman, I can do truck tires
> >> as well as fuel/service/wash trucks. My first job
> >> was at a Conoco in Lubbock... remember the five-
> >> position mixer pumps? We had those... don't
> >> remember the old man's name, but he had a class
> >> act... only used SprayWay and blue towels on the
> >> windshields. Busted my first tire on his manual
> >> tire machine, really just a post bolted to the concrete
> >> with a spin-down cone and a slip-on bead breaker.
> >> Worked at a BF Goodrich tire dealer for a year...
> >> I can run a Coats 4040a in my sleep. Hunter balancer.
> >> Worked at a Gulf station in Austin for a year (my
> >> parents were Gulf/Chevron jobbers). Worked for a year
> >> at the Texaco truck stop, 183 and IH35... that's
> >> where I learned truck tires and ran a service truck.
> >> I'm leaving out some more SS jobs...
> >> My last SS attendant job was at the Exxon in
> >> Alpine, TX... just out of college, 1998. Did oil
> >> change, lube, car wash... washing cars is good
> >> exercise! Customer relations is perhaps the
> >> most important part of the front/fueling operation...
> >> skills that have served me well in later life.
> >> __
> >> Steve
> >> "i recognize my limitations and
> >> immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
> >> .
#4247
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 134a Refrigerant
You originally referred to a gas station storage tank. Mine were
made out of fiber glass, about he same size as a railroad tank car. And
of course they're going to be semi hemispherical for strength. But the
variable is still how to calibrate the gallons to the stick scale marks
graduations. For that I copy and paste again that formula:
360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
360
Your equation only worked when the tank was exactly half full. Any idiot
could tell you that was thirty thousand gallons in my Supreme and
regular tanks. Unleaded is probably in the Supreme tank, since the
nineties.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank which
> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical endcaps.
>
> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42F7E3CE.55D467CA@***.net...
> > You're out of your rabbit a** mind! What does a area of a pie wedge
> > have to with calculating the volume of a storage tank usually measured
> > via the dip stick??????????? Which is the variable! Why do you think the
> > sin of the arc was needed??????????? Remember why we used sin, cosine
> > and tangent?
> > 360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
> > ------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
> > 360
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
> > Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >>
> >> Let's look at what I posted:
> >> <>
> >> For the less-than-half full case:
> >> Half he area of the circular face minus the quantity
> >> twice the area of the triangle plus twice the area
> >> of the pie wedge
> >>
> >> For the more-than-half-full case:
> >> Half the area of the circular face, plus twice the area of
> >> the triangle, plus twice the area of the pie wedge.
> >>
> >> Then times the length. Easy, wasn't it?
> >> </>
> >>
> >> I mentioned the liquid level earlier... really the most
> >> trivial part of the equation, we know we're
> >> starting with a stick reading, don't we? I was most
> >> interested in hearing whether you understood
> >> the decomposition of the equation.
> >>
> >> When you mentioned 'logarithms' the answer was complete:
> >> you haven't a clue.
> >>
> >> Bill, just because you can't read with comprehension
> >> doesn't mean that my analysis was wrong. And if you
> >> can find *anywhere* in your posted equation using
> >> logs, I'll eat my hat.
> >>
> >> And once again, I have to blow your little expectations
> >> away... didn't you get the hint when I said 'stick the
> >> tanks, read the pumps'? How many times do you
> >> think *I've* done that?
> >>
> >> I've worked at many service stations, I'm an
> >> expert tire installer/repairman, I can do truck tires
> >> as well as fuel/service/wash trucks. My first job
> >> was at a Conoco in Lubbock... remember the five-
> >> position mixer pumps? We had those... don't
> >> remember the old man's name, but he had a class
> >> act... only used SprayWay and blue towels on the
> >> windshields. Busted my first tire on his manual
> >> tire machine, really just a post bolted to the concrete
> >> with a spin-down cone and a slip-on bead breaker.
> >> Worked at a BF Goodrich tire dealer for a year...
> >> I can run a Coats 4040a in my sleep. Hunter balancer.
> >> Worked at a Gulf station in Austin for a year (my
> >> parents were Gulf/Chevron jobbers). Worked for a year
> >> at the Texaco truck stop, 183 and IH35... that's
> >> where I learned truck tires and ran a service truck.
> >> I'm leaving out some more SS jobs...
> >> My last SS attendant job was at the Exxon in
> >> Alpine, TX... just out of college, 1998. Did oil
> >> change, lube, car wash... washing cars is good
> >> exercise! Customer relations is perhaps the
> >> most important part of the front/fueling operation...
> >> skills that have served me well in later life.
> >> __
> >> Steve
> >> "i recognize my limitations and
> >> immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
> >> .
made out of fiber glass, about he same size as a railroad tank car. And
of course they're going to be semi hemispherical for strength. But the
variable is still how to calibrate the gallons to the stick scale marks
graduations. For that I copy and paste again that formula:
360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
360
Your equation only worked when the tank was exactly half full. Any idiot
could tell you that was thirty thousand gallons in my Supreme and
regular tanks. Unleaded is probably in the Supreme tank, since the
nineties.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank which
> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical endcaps.
>
> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42F7E3CE.55D467CA@***.net...
> > You're out of your rabbit a** mind! What does a area of a pie wedge
> > have to with calculating the volume of a storage tank usually measured
> > via the dip stick??????????? Which is the variable! Why do you think the
> > sin of the arc was needed??????????? Remember why we used sin, cosine
> > and tangent?
> > 360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
> > ------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
> > 360
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
> > Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >>
> >> Let's look at what I posted:
> >> <>
> >> For the less-than-half full case:
> >> Half he area of the circular face minus the quantity
> >> twice the area of the triangle plus twice the area
> >> of the pie wedge
> >>
> >> For the more-than-half-full case:
> >> Half the area of the circular face, plus twice the area of
> >> the triangle, plus twice the area of the pie wedge.
> >>
> >> Then times the length. Easy, wasn't it?
> >> </>
> >>
> >> I mentioned the liquid level earlier... really the most
> >> trivial part of the equation, we know we're
> >> starting with a stick reading, don't we? I was most
> >> interested in hearing whether you understood
> >> the decomposition of the equation.
> >>
> >> When you mentioned 'logarithms' the answer was complete:
> >> you haven't a clue.
> >>
> >> Bill, just because you can't read with comprehension
> >> doesn't mean that my analysis was wrong. And if you
> >> can find *anywhere* in your posted equation using
> >> logs, I'll eat my hat.
> >>
> >> And once again, I have to blow your little expectations
> >> away... didn't you get the hint when I said 'stick the
> >> tanks, read the pumps'? How many times do you
> >> think *I've* done that?
> >>
> >> I've worked at many service stations, I'm an
> >> expert tire installer/repairman, I can do truck tires
> >> as well as fuel/service/wash trucks. My first job
> >> was at a Conoco in Lubbock... remember the five-
> >> position mixer pumps? We had those... don't
> >> remember the old man's name, but he had a class
> >> act... only used SprayWay and blue towels on the
> >> windshields. Busted my first tire on his manual
> >> tire machine, really just a post bolted to the concrete
> >> with a spin-down cone and a slip-on bead breaker.
> >> Worked at a BF Goodrich tire dealer for a year...
> >> I can run a Coats 4040a in my sleep. Hunter balancer.
> >> Worked at a Gulf station in Austin for a year (my
> >> parents were Gulf/Chevron jobbers). Worked for a year
> >> at the Texaco truck stop, 183 and IH35... that's
> >> where I learned truck tires and ran a service truck.
> >> I'm leaving out some more SS jobs...
> >> My last SS attendant job was at the Exxon in
> >> Alpine, TX... just out of college, 1998. Did oil
> >> change, lube, car wash... washing cars is good
> >> exercise! Customer relations is perhaps the
> >> most important part of the front/fueling operation...
> >> skills that have served me well in later life.
> >> __
> >> Steve
> >> "i recognize my limitations and
> >> immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
> >> .
#4248
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 134a Refrigerant
You originally referred to a gas station storage tank. Mine were
made out of fiber glass, about he same size as a railroad tank car. And
of course they're going to be semi hemispherical for strength. But the
variable is still how to calibrate the gallons to the stick scale marks
graduations. For that I copy and paste again that formula:
360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
360
Your equation only worked when the tank was exactly half full. Any idiot
could tell you that was thirty thousand gallons in my Supreme and
regular tanks. Unleaded is probably in the Supreme tank, since the
nineties.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank which
> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical endcaps.
>
> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42F7E3CE.55D467CA@***.net...
> > You're out of your rabbit a** mind! What does a area of a pie wedge
> > have to with calculating the volume of a storage tank usually measured
> > via the dip stick??????????? Which is the variable! Why do you think the
> > sin of the arc was needed??????????? Remember why we used sin, cosine
> > and tangent?
> > 360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
> > ------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
> > 360
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
> > Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >>
> >> Let's look at what I posted:
> >> <>
> >> For the less-than-half full case:
> >> Half he area of the circular face minus the quantity
> >> twice the area of the triangle plus twice the area
> >> of the pie wedge
> >>
> >> For the more-than-half-full case:
> >> Half the area of the circular face, plus twice the area of
> >> the triangle, plus twice the area of the pie wedge.
> >>
> >> Then times the length. Easy, wasn't it?
> >> </>
> >>
> >> I mentioned the liquid level earlier... really the most
> >> trivial part of the equation, we know we're
> >> starting with a stick reading, don't we? I was most
> >> interested in hearing whether you understood
> >> the decomposition of the equation.
> >>
> >> When you mentioned 'logarithms' the answer was complete:
> >> you haven't a clue.
> >>
> >> Bill, just because you can't read with comprehension
> >> doesn't mean that my analysis was wrong. And if you
> >> can find *anywhere* in your posted equation using
> >> logs, I'll eat my hat.
> >>
> >> And once again, I have to blow your little expectations
> >> away... didn't you get the hint when I said 'stick the
> >> tanks, read the pumps'? How many times do you
> >> think *I've* done that?
> >>
> >> I've worked at many service stations, I'm an
> >> expert tire installer/repairman, I can do truck tires
> >> as well as fuel/service/wash trucks. My first job
> >> was at a Conoco in Lubbock... remember the five-
> >> position mixer pumps? We had those... don't
> >> remember the old man's name, but he had a class
> >> act... only used SprayWay and blue towels on the
> >> windshields. Busted my first tire on his manual
> >> tire machine, really just a post bolted to the concrete
> >> with a spin-down cone and a slip-on bead breaker.
> >> Worked at a BF Goodrich tire dealer for a year...
> >> I can run a Coats 4040a in my sleep. Hunter balancer.
> >> Worked at a Gulf station in Austin for a year (my
> >> parents were Gulf/Chevron jobbers). Worked for a year
> >> at the Texaco truck stop, 183 and IH35... that's
> >> where I learned truck tires and ran a service truck.
> >> I'm leaving out some more SS jobs...
> >> My last SS attendant job was at the Exxon in
> >> Alpine, TX... just out of college, 1998. Did oil
> >> change, lube, car wash... washing cars is good
> >> exercise! Customer relations is perhaps the
> >> most important part of the front/fueling operation...
> >> skills that have served me well in later life.
> >> __
> >> Steve
> >> "i recognize my limitations and
> >> immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
> >> .
made out of fiber glass, about he same size as a railroad tank car. And
of course they're going to be semi hemispherical for strength. But the
variable is still how to calibrate the gallons to the stick scale marks
graduations. For that I copy and paste again that formula:
360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
360
Your equation only worked when the tank was exactly half full. Any idiot
could tell you that was thirty thousand gallons in my Supreme and
regular tanks. Unleaded is probably in the Supreme tank, since the
nineties.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank which
> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical endcaps.
>
> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42F7E3CE.55D467CA@***.net...
> > You're out of your rabbit a** mind! What does a area of a pie wedge
> > have to with calculating the volume of a storage tank usually measured
> > via the dip stick??????????? Which is the variable! Why do you think the
> > sin of the arc was needed??????????? Remember why we used sin, cosine
> > and tangent?
> > 360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
> > ------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
> > 360
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
> > Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >>
> >> Let's look at what I posted:
> >> <>
> >> For the less-than-half full case:
> >> Half he area of the circular face minus the quantity
> >> twice the area of the triangle plus twice the area
> >> of the pie wedge
> >>
> >> For the more-than-half-full case:
> >> Half the area of the circular face, plus twice the area of
> >> the triangle, plus twice the area of the pie wedge.
> >>
> >> Then times the length. Easy, wasn't it?
> >> </>
> >>
> >> I mentioned the liquid level earlier... really the most
> >> trivial part of the equation, we know we're
> >> starting with a stick reading, don't we? I was most
> >> interested in hearing whether you understood
> >> the decomposition of the equation.
> >>
> >> When you mentioned 'logarithms' the answer was complete:
> >> you haven't a clue.
> >>
> >> Bill, just because you can't read with comprehension
> >> doesn't mean that my analysis was wrong. And if you
> >> can find *anywhere* in your posted equation using
> >> logs, I'll eat my hat.
> >>
> >> And once again, I have to blow your little expectations
> >> away... didn't you get the hint when I said 'stick the
> >> tanks, read the pumps'? How many times do you
> >> think *I've* done that?
> >>
> >> I've worked at many service stations, I'm an
> >> expert tire installer/repairman, I can do truck tires
> >> as well as fuel/service/wash trucks. My first job
> >> was at a Conoco in Lubbock... remember the five-
> >> position mixer pumps? We had those... don't
> >> remember the old man's name, but he had a class
> >> act... only used SprayWay and blue towels on the
> >> windshields. Busted my first tire on his manual
> >> tire machine, really just a post bolted to the concrete
> >> with a spin-down cone and a slip-on bead breaker.
> >> Worked at a BF Goodrich tire dealer for a year...
> >> I can run a Coats 4040a in my sleep. Hunter balancer.
> >> Worked at a Gulf station in Austin for a year (my
> >> parents were Gulf/Chevron jobbers). Worked for a year
> >> at the Texaco truck stop, 183 and IH35... that's
> >> where I learned truck tires and ran a service truck.
> >> I'm leaving out some more SS jobs...
> >> My last SS attendant job was at the Exxon in
> >> Alpine, TX... just out of college, 1998. Did oil
> >> change, lube, car wash... washing cars is good
> >> exercise! Customer relations is perhaps the
> >> most important part of the front/fueling operation...
> >> skills that have served me well in later life.
> >> __
> >> Steve
> >> "i recognize my limitations and
> >> immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
> >> .
#4249
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 134a Refrigerant
You originally referred to a gas station storage tank. Mine were
made out of fiber glass, about he same size as a railroad tank car. And
of course they're going to be semi hemispherical for strength. But the
variable is still how to calibrate the gallons to the stick scale marks
graduations. For that I copy and paste again that formula:
360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
360
Your equation only worked when the tank was exactly half full. Any idiot
could tell you that was thirty thousand gallons in my Supreme and
regular tanks. Unleaded is probably in the Supreme tank, since the
nineties.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank which
> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical endcaps.
>
> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42F7E3CE.55D467CA@***.net...
> > You're out of your rabbit a** mind! What does a area of a pie wedge
> > have to with calculating the volume of a storage tank usually measured
> > via the dip stick??????????? Which is the variable! Why do you think the
> > sin of the arc was needed??????????? Remember why we used sin, cosine
> > and tangent?
> > 360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
> > ------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
> > 360
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
> > Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >>
> >> Let's look at what I posted:
> >> <>
> >> For the less-than-half full case:
> >> Half he area of the circular face minus the quantity
> >> twice the area of the triangle plus twice the area
> >> of the pie wedge
> >>
> >> For the more-than-half-full case:
> >> Half the area of the circular face, plus twice the area of
> >> the triangle, plus twice the area of the pie wedge.
> >>
> >> Then times the length. Easy, wasn't it?
> >> </>
> >>
> >> I mentioned the liquid level earlier... really the most
> >> trivial part of the equation, we know we're
> >> starting with a stick reading, don't we? I was most
> >> interested in hearing whether you understood
> >> the decomposition of the equation.
> >>
> >> When you mentioned 'logarithms' the answer was complete:
> >> you haven't a clue.
> >>
> >> Bill, just because you can't read with comprehension
> >> doesn't mean that my analysis was wrong. And if you
> >> can find *anywhere* in your posted equation using
> >> logs, I'll eat my hat.
> >>
> >> And once again, I have to blow your little expectations
> >> away... didn't you get the hint when I said 'stick the
> >> tanks, read the pumps'? How many times do you
> >> think *I've* done that?
> >>
> >> I've worked at many service stations, I'm an
> >> expert tire installer/repairman, I can do truck tires
> >> as well as fuel/service/wash trucks. My first job
> >> was at a Conoco in Lubbock... remember the five-
> >> position mixer pumps? We had those... don't
> >> remember the old man's name, but he had a class
> >> act... only used SprayWay and blue towels on the
> >> windshields. Busted my first tire on his manual
> >> tire machine, really just a post bolted to the concrete
> >> with a spin-down cone and a slip-on bead breaker.
> >> Worked at a BF Goodrich tire dealer for a year...
> >> I can run a Coats 4040a in my sleep. Hunter balancer.
> >> Worked at a Gulf station in Austin for a year (my
> >> parents were Gulf/Chevron jobbers). Worked for a year
> >> at the Texaco truck stop, 183 and IH35... that's
> >> where I learned truck tires and ran a service truck.
> >> I'm leaving out some more SS jobs...
> >> My last SS attendant job was at the Exxon in
> >> Alpine, TX... just out of college, 1998. Did oil
> >> change, lube, car wash... washing cars is good
> >> exercise! Customer relations is perhaps the
> >> most important part of the front/fueling operation...
> >> skills that have served me well in later life.
> >> __
> >> Steve
> >> "i recognize my limitations and
> >> immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
> >> .
made out of fiber glass, about he same size as a railroad tank car. And
of course they're going to be semi hemispherical for strength. But the
variable is still how to calibrate the gallons to the stick scale marks
graduations. For that I copy and paste again that formula:
360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
360
Your equation only worked when the tank was exactly half full. Any idiot
could tell you that was thirty thousand gallons in my Supreme and
regular tanks. Unleaded is probably in the Supreme tank, since the
nineties.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill, To complicate things I think his original question was about a
> horizontal cylinder. He then made reference to sticking a fuel tank which
> generally is a horizontal cylinder with convex semi-hemispherical endcaps.
>
> Just which does he want the volume of?
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42F7E3CE.55D467CA@***.net...
> > You're out of your rabbit a** mind! What does a area of a pie wedge
> > have to with calculating the volume of a storage tank usually measured
> > via the dip stick??????????? Which is the variable! Why do you think the
> > sin of the arc was needed??????????? Remember why we used sin, cosine
> > and tangent?
> > 360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
> > ------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
> > 360
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
> > Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >>
> >> Let's look at what I posted:
> >> <>
> >> For the less-than-half full case:
> >> Half he area of the circular face minus the quantity
> >> twice the area of the triangle plus twice the area
> >> of the pie wedge
> >>
> >> For the more-than-half-full case:
> >> Half the area of the circular face, plus twice the area of
> >> the triangle, plus twice the area of the pie wedge.
> >>
> >> Then times the length. Easy, wasn't it?
> >> </>
> >>
> >> I mentioned the liquid level earlier... really the most
> >> trivial part of the equation, we know we're
> >> starting with a stick reading, don't we? I was most
> >> interested in hearing whether you understood
> >> the decomposition of the equation.
> >>
> >> When you mentioned 'logarithms' the answer was complete:
> >> you haven't a clue.
> >>
> >> Bill, just because you can't read with comprehension
> >> doesn't mean that my analysis was wrong. And if you
> >> can find *anywhere* in your posted equation using
> >> logs, I'll eat my hat.
> >>
> >> And once again, I have to blow your little expectations
> >> away... didn't you get the hint when I said 'stick the
> >> tanks, read the pumps'? How many times do you
> >> think *I've* done that?
> >>
> >> I've worked at many service stations, I'm an
> >> expert tire installer/repairman, I can do truck tires
> >> as well as fuel/service/wash trucks. My first job
> >> was at a Conoco in Lubbock... remember the five-
> >> position mixer pumps? We had those... don't
> >> remember the old man's name, but he had a class
> >> act... only used SprayWay and blue towels on the
> >> windshields. Busted my first tire on his manual
> >> tire machine, really just a post bolted to the concrete
> >> with a spin-down cone and a slip-on bead breaker.
> >> Worked at a BF Goodrich tire dealer for a year...
> >> I can run a Coats 4040a in my sleep. Hunter balancer.
> >> Worked at a Gulf station in Austin for a year (my
> >> parents were Gulf/Chevron jobbers). Worked for a year
> >> at the Texaco truck stop, 183 and IH35... that's
> >> where I learned truck tires and ran a service truck.
> >> I'm leaving out some more SS jobs...
> >> My last SS attendant job was at the Exxon in
> >> Alpine, TX... just out of college, 1998. Did oil
> >> change, lube, car wash... washing cars is good
> >> exercise! Customer relations is perhaps the
> >> most important part of the front/fueling operation...
> >> skills that have served me well in later life.
> >> __
> >> Steve
> >> "i recognize my limitations and
> >> immediately own it (sic)."... Nate
> >> .
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Out and out gibberish
Work the problem, you don't need to know why it works.
360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
360
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> See? No grasp of induction... can't even draw
> a picture. You don't have any clue about how
> to break down the calculation, even though you
> cut-and-pasted some google explanation of it.
> Did you not read the explanation, or did you
> just not understand it? What I really mean is,
> are you just lazy, or stupid? Recall that you
> posted:
>
> <>
> Now consider the area outside of the segment. That is, we want
> the area of a portion of the circle. If we measure z in degrees we
> want the portion of the circle that takes up 360 - 2z degrees of the
> circle. So, the fraction we are dealing with here is:
> </>
>
> If you drew the picture, you'd see the pie wedge...
> two of them, actually. Comprende?
>
> Is that a statement, or a question? I can't
> make sense of it either way, anyway...
>
> For the logarithm of the square of the mare?
>
> All I read is arcsin, Bill... btw, do you have any
> clue what the difference is? Could you possibly
> explain to me why anyone would need to use an
> arcsin function?
>
> I noticed that you dropped the subject of:
> > Geez, you couldn't even get a job at a gas station!
> Busted your huevos thoroughly on that one!
> __
> Steve
Work the problem, you don't need to know why it works.
360 - 2(90 - arcsin [(r-h)/r])
------------------------------- (Pi)r^2 + (r-h)Sqrt (2rh - h^2)
360
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> See? No grasp of induction... can't even draw
> a picture. You don't have any clue about how
> to break down the calculation, even though you
> cut-and-pasted some google explanation of it.
> Did you not read the explanation, or did you
> just not understand it? What I really mean is,
> are you just lazy, or stupid? Recall that you
> posted:
>
> <>
> Now consider the area outside of the segment. That is, we want
> the area of a portion of the circle. If we measure z in degrees we
> want the portion of the circle that takes up 360 - 2z degrees of the
> circle. So, the fraction we are dealing with here is:
> </>
>
> If you drew the picture, you'd see the pie wedge...
> two of them, actually. Comprende?
>
> Is that a statement, or a question? I can't
> make sense of it either way, anyway...
>
> For the logarithm of the square of the mare?
>
> All I read is arcsin, Bill... btw, do you have any
> clue what the difference is? Could you possibly
> explain to me why anyone would need to use an
> arcsin function?
>
> I noticed that you dropped the subject of:
> > Geez, you couldn't even get a job at a gas station!
> Busted your huevos thoroughly on that one!
> __
> Steve