134a Refrigerant
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> and it doesnt change ----, liar. cryo is not refrigeration.
>
> http://www.ineosfluor.com/Refrigerat.../Cryogenic.asp
wtf? that paper is on cryogenic refrigeration. cryogenic refrigeration is
its own specialized segment. it is not refrigeration.
>> lol. you cant because you know NOTHING of cryo. :-)
>
> More TLA's... they're not going to save you,
> Nate.
but you sure choked on them! why? because you are an ignorant fool.
ignorant because you dont know refrigeration, and a fool because you would
try to -------- someone who _does_ about your qualifications. youre nothing
stephen. nothing but a liberal and a liar (course, "liberal" would have
covered both).
> See? Bald-faced assertions, like you know
> what you're talking about... when you haven't
> the slightest clue.
i know enough to know that NONE of it is proven. its all speculation and
belief.
> You're not qualified to
> make your statement
im not qualified to speak with authority. neither are you. we're _both_
speaking out of our belief, but none of it is proven.
> Your
> wilful ignorance may allow you to make a
> comfortable living
and it does! i went out just yesterday and threw down $9000 on kids toys.
http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=924 it means putting off my
next new jeep for a couple months, but ill get it. :-) perhaps if you
adopted some conservative values (accepting personal responsibility for
making your own way, hard work, ethics above all) you can enjoy a little
taste too. :-)
> See the above link... it is most certainly Refrigeration,
> with a capital 'R'.
it is NOT what i asked you for! your link is on cryogenic refrigeration.
my statment (which happens to be based in fact....i understand you never let
facts stand in your way though) is that cryogenic refrigeration is ITS OWN
specialized segment, that it is NOT refrigeration. i CLEARLY asked you for
an HVAC/R curriculum that included cryo. instead you threw a red herring.
nothing new there.
> if you want to leave here owning
> more than the shirt on your back!
lol such as assinine statement! :-)
> You discussed it because it was irrelevant?
no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
>> "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
>
> Perfectly good replacement, when no low
> ambient is coming. Order the part, replace
> the part, pull a vacuum, open the valves...
> fixed.
lol your example is totally foolish! it would do NOTHING but be a total
waste of time no matter what you want to claim (this time) that your valves
are for! that you would continue to defend your position after having it
explained to you many times just goes to show how much of a pathetic liar
you are. ive given you the facts, and nothing you can say will changed them
because unlike ozone depletion, refrigeration _is_ a known science. dude,
for your own knowledge i urge you to call a local refrigeration company in
your area and tell them about your "two valves and a pipe" and let them tell
you how foolish it is. hell, leave out the valves, just use the pipe and
let them tell you how foolish it is. its a pointless effort on MANY levels
and not a realistic solution for ANYTHING. even if you remove the HMC,
because the bypass in in place you still MUST regulate it or youll have
equal distribution which will lower your working pressures and starve your
system.
> You're hiding behind another TLA. It's
> a pattern for you. You think it shows
> knowlege
lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and clearly
stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of cycle
controller, _at all_. the process is completely different. if you knew
anything about the mechanical function of cryogenic refrigeration systems
you would have called me on that immediately. you are a LIAR.
> I'll
> admit to not knowing HVAC.
we arent discussing hvac. we're discussing refrigeration. and dont bother,
your ignorance and multiple ---- ups is all the admission that anyone
knowing anything about refrigeration will need to know.
>> and youre just as wrong back then! :-) you canNOT just bypass it.
>
> Well, are you lying now, or were you lying
> nineteen lines above?
ive explained it many times. if youre to STUPID to understand it then thats
your limitation. if an HMC were never installed to begin with you wouldnt
require regulation above low ambient, but since its there you MUST at least
regulate the bypass tube. your valves would require 24/7 monitoring which
isnt realistic, and your "Y" or "T" would distribute equally causing low
working pressures. you are WRONG stephen. your solution is assinine,
foolish, unrealistic, and a flat out waste of time.
> You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> pressure at the *outlet*.
you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure. you
had better read your little google a little closer. im going to keep this
one for later use, its blatent ignorance! :-) the expansion valve, you
------- FOOL, is located in the input side of the evaporator and regulates
the working pressures of the evaporator. see
http://www.aircondition.com/dsmobileac/poastv.html for a little basic
education, and then lets see an apology for your ignorance (or at least one
hell of a back-peddle! :-)
>> youre WRONG -------. you have to regulate both ways.....or come up with
>> another PAINFULLY simple way of making the pressure regulate itself.....
>
> Really, there's no need for the regulation...
> you said so yourself, above. Refrigerant
> only needs to be retained in the evaporator
> during low ambient... this lowers the efficiency
> of the evaporator during low outside temps.
lol dude....do you even know the difference of the componentry? google a
refrigerant flow chart or something. youre completely assinine and i have
to seriously wonder if youre smoking crack.
and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or the
refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
>> lol you fool, i was down in less than 10 minutes where your solution
>> would
>> have meant spoiled product because it wouldnt work.
>
> *** smoke...
TRANSLATION --> "i dont understand how it all works, nate"
> You didn't say Uncle.
TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
>> ice machines are irrelevant as they have no need for either.
>
> All systems don't have the valve. Thanks
> for admitting that.
dude you really are a ------- fool. i NEVER said otherwise. this is
-------- smoke and mirrors on your part.
>> so if you know something about it, give me the settings on the FCC (CC =
>> cycle control, now google it and try to figure it out).
>
> We stopped playing that game.
TRANSLATION --> "i didnt even know the difference because i just dont know
cryo, nate"
yeah, no ----.
> This is the third time you've attempted to hide
> behind a three-letter acronym... this makes you
> a jerk.
TRANSLATION --> "please stop exposing my true ignorance, nate"
>> BZZT! NOT what im looking for!
>
> Well, it's what I'm giving.
TRANSLATION --> "i dont know, nate"
> The history books will get it right,
> eventually
TRANSLATION --> "when we grow up im gonna beat you up".
BUWAHAHA! :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:1eYKe.200$k92.182@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com. ..
>> and it doesnt change ----, liar. cryo is not refrigeration.
>
> http://www.ineosfluor.com/Refrigerat.../Cryogenic.asp
wtf? that paper is on cryogenic refrigeration. cryogenic refrigeration is
its own specialized segment. it is not refrigeration.
>> lol. you cant because you know NOTHING of cryo. :-)
>
> More TLA's... they're not going to save you,
> Nate.
but you sure choked on them! why? because you are an ignorant fool.
ignorant because you dont know refrigeration, and a fool because you would
try to -------- someone who _does_ about your qualifications. youre nothing
stephen. nothing but a liberal and a liar (course, "liberal" would have
covered both).
> See? Bald-faced assertions, like you know
> what you're talking about... when you haven't
> the slightest clue.
i know enough to know that NONE of it is proven. its all speculation and
belief.
> You're not qualified to
> make your statement
im not qualified to speak with authority. neither are you. we're _both_
speaking out of our belief, but none of it is proven.
> Your
> wilful ignorance may allow you to make a
> comfortable living
and it does! i went out just yesterday and threw down $9000 on kids toys.
http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=924 it means putting off my
next new jeep for a couple months, but ill get it. :-) perhaps if you
adopted some conservative values (accepting personal responsibility for
making your own way, hard work, ethics above all) you can enjoy a little
taste too. :-)
> See the above link... it is most certainly Refrigeration,
> with a capital 'R'.
it is NOT what i asked you for! your link is on cryogenic refrigeration.
my statment (which happens to be based in fact....i understand you never let
facts stand in your way though) is that cryogenic refrigeration is ITS OWN
specialized segment, that it is NOT refrigeration. i CLEARLY asked you for
an HVAC/R curriculum that included cryo. instead you threw a red herring.
nothing new there.
> if you want to leave here owning
> more than the shirt on your back!
lol such as assinine statement! :-)
> You discussed it because it was irrelevant?
no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
>> "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
>
> Perfectly good replacement, when no low
> ambient is coming. Order the part, replace
> the part, pull a vacuum, open the valves...
> fixed.
lol your example is totally foolish! it would do NOTHING but be a total
waste of time no matter what you want to claim (this time) that your valves
are for! that you would continue to defend your position after having it
explained to you many times just goes to show how much of a pathetic liar
you are. ive given you the facts, and nothing you can say will changed them
because unlike ozone depletion, refrigeration _is_ a known science. dude,
for your own knowledge i urge you to call a local refrigeration company in
your area and tell them about your "two valves and a pipe" and let them tell
you how foolish it is. hell, leave out the valves, just use the pipe and
let them tell you how foolish it is. its a pointless effort on MANY levels
and not a realistic solution for ANYTHING. even if you remove the HMC,
because the bypass in in place you still MUST regulate it or youll have
equal distribution which will lower your working pressures and starve your
system.
> You're hiding behind another TLA. It's
> a pattern for you. You think it shows
> knowlege
lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and clearly
stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of cycle
controller, _at all_. the process is completely different. if you knew
anything about the mechanical function of cryogenic refrigeration systems
you would have called me on that immediately. you are a LIAR.
> I'll
> admit to not knowing HVAC.
we arent discussing hvac. we're discussing refrigeration. and dont bother,
your ignorance and multiple ---- ups is all the admission that anyone
knowing anything about refrigeration will need to know.
>> and youre just as wrong back then! :-) you canNOT just bypass it.
>
> Well, are you lying now, or were you lying
> nineteen lines above?
ive explained it many times. if youre to STUPID to understand it then thats
your limitation. if an HMC were never installed to begin with you wouldnt
require regulation above low ambient, but since its there you MUST at least
regulate the bypass tube. your valves would require 24/7 monitoring which
isnt realistic, and your "Y" or "T" would distribute equally causing low
working pressures. you are WRONG stephen. your solution is assinine,
foolish, unrealistic, and a flat out waste of time.
> You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> pressure at the *outlet*.
you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure. you
had better read your little google a little closer. im going to keep this
one for later use, its blatent ignorance! :-) the expansion valve, you
------- FOOL, is located in the input side of the evaporator and regulates
the working pressures of the evaporator. see
http://www.aircondition.com/dsmobileac/poastv.html for a little basic
education, and then lets see an apology for your ignorance (or at least one
hell of a back-peddle! :-)
>> youre WRONG -------. you have to regulate both ways.....or come up with
>> another PAINFULLY simple way of making the pressure regulate itself.....
>
> Really, there's no need for the regulation...
> you said so yourself, above. Refrigerant
> only needs to be retained in the evaporator
> during low ambient... this lowers the efficiency
> of the evaporator during low outside temps.
lol dude....do you even know the difference of the componentry? google a
refrigerant flow chart or something. youre completely assinine and i have
to seriously wonder if youre smoking crack.
and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or the
refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
>> lol you fool, i was down in less than 10 minutes where your solution
>> would
>> have meant spoiled product because it wouldnt work.
>
> *** smoke...
TRANSLATION --> "i dont understand how it all works, nate"
> You didn't say Uncle.
TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
>> ice machines are irrelevant as they have no need for either.
>
> All systems don't have the valve. Thanks
> for admitting that.
dude you really are a ------- fool. i NEVER said otherwise. this is
-------- smoke and mirrors on your part.
>> so if you know something about it, give me the settings on the FCC (CC =
>> cycle control, now google it and try to figure it out).
>
> We stopped playing that game.
TRANSLATION --> "i didnt even know the difference because i just dont know
cryo, nate"
yeah, no ----.
> This is the third time you've attempted to hide
> behind a three-letter acronym... this makes you
> a jerk.
TRANSLATION --> "please stop exposing my true ignorance, nate"
>> BZZT! NOT what im looking for!
>
> Well, it's what I'm giving.
TRANSLATION --> "i dont know, nate"
> The history books will get it right,
> eventually
TRANSLATION --> "when we grow up im gonna beat you up".
BUWAHAHA! :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
#4352
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1eYKe.200$k92.182@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com. ..
>> and it doesnt change ----, liar. cryo is not refrigeration.
>
> http://www.ineosfluor.com/Refrigerat.../Cryogenic.asp
wtf? that paper is on cryogenic refrigeration. cryogenic refrigeration is
its own specialized segment. it is not refrigeration.
>> lol. you cant because you know NOTHING of cryo. :-)
>
> More TLA's... they're not going to save you,
> Nate.
but you sure choked on them! why? because you are an ignorant fool.
ignorant because you dont know refrigeration, and a fool because you would
try to -------- someone who _does_ about your qualifications. youre nothing
stephen. nothing but a liberal and a liar (course, "liberal" would have
covered both).
> See? Bald-faced assertions, like you know
> what you're talking about... when you haven't
> the slightest clue.
i know enough to know that NONE of it is proven. its all speculation and
belief.
> You're not qualified to
> make your statement
im not qualified to speak with authority. neither are you. we're _both_
speaking out of our belief, but none of it is proven.
> Your
> wilful ignorance may allow you to make a
> comfortable living
and it does! i went out just yesterday and threw down $9000 on kids toys.
http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=924 it means putting off my
next new jeep for a couple months, but ill get it. :-) perhaps if you
adopted some conservative values (accepting personal responsibility for
making your own way, hard work, ethics above all) you can enjoy a little
taste too. :-)
> See the above link... it is most certainly Refrigeration,
> with a capital 'R'.
it is NOT what i asked you for! your link is on cryogenic refrigeration.
my statment (which happens to be based in fact....i understand you never let
facts stand in your way though) is that cryogenic refrigeration is ITS OWN
specialized segment, that it is NOT refrigeration. i CLEARLY asked you for
an HVAC/R curriculum that included cryo. instead you threw a red herring.
nothing new there.
> if you want to leave here owning
> more than the shirt on your back!
lol such as assinine statement! :-)
> You discussed it because it was irrelevant?
no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
>> "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
>
> Perfectly good replacement, when no low
> ambient is coming. Order the part, replace
> the part, pull a vacuum, open the valves...
> fixed.
lol your example is totally foolish! it would do NOTHING but be a total
waste of time no matter what you want to claim (this time) that your valves
are for! that you would continue to defend your position after having it
explained to you many times just goes to show how much of a pathetic liar
you are. ive given you the facts, and nothing you can say will changed them
because unlike ozone depletion, refrigeration _is_ a known science. dude,
for your own knowledge i urge you to call a local refrigeration company in
your area and tell them about your "two valves and a pipe" and let them tell
you how foolish it is. hell, leave out the valves, just use the pipe and
let them tell you how foolish it is. its a pointless effort on MANY levels
and not a realistic solution for ANYTHING. even if you remove the HMC,
because the bypass in in place you still MUST regulate it or youll have
equal distribution which will lower your working pressures and starve your
system.
> You're hiding behind another TLA. It's
> a pattern for you. You think it shows
> knowlege
lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and clearly
stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of cycle
controller, _at all_. the process is completely different. if you knew
anything about the mechanical function of cryogenic refrigeration systems
you would have called me on that immediately. you are a LIAR.
> I'll
> admit to not knowing HVAC.
we arent discussing hvac. we're discussing refrigeration. and dont bother,
your ignorance and multiple ---- ups is all the admission that anyone
knowing anything about refrigeration will need to know.
>> and youre just as wrong back then! :-) you canNOT just bypass it.
>
> Well, are you lying now, or were you lying
> nineteen lines above?
ive explained it many times. if youre to STUPID to understand it then thats
your limitation. if an HMC were never installed to begin with you wouldnt
require regulation above low ambient, but since its there you MUST at least
regulate the bypass tube. your valves would require 24/7 monitoring which
isnt realistic, and your "Y" or "T" would distribute equally causing low
working pressures. you are WRONG stephen. your solution is assinine,
foolish, unrealistic, and a flat out waste of time.
> You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> pressure at the *outlet*.
you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure. you
had better read your little google a little closer. im going to keep this
one for later use, its blatent ignorance! :-) the expansion valve, you
------- FOOL, is located in the input side of the evaporator and regulates
the working pressures of the evaporator. see
http://www.aircondition.com/dsmobileac/poastv.html for a little basic
education, and then lets see an apology for your ignorance (or at least one
hell of a back-peddle! :-)
>> youre WRONG -------. you have to regulate both ways.....or come up with
>> another PAINFULLY simple way of making the pressure regulate itself.....
>
> Really, there's no need for the regulation...
> you said so yourself, above. Refrigerant
> only needs to be retained in the evaporator
> during low ambient... this lowers the efficiency
> of the evaporator during low outside temps.
lol dude....do you even know the difference of the componentry? google a
refrigerant flow chart or something. youre completely assinine and i have
to seriously wonder if youre smoking crack.
and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or the
refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
>> lol you fool, i was down in less than 10 minutes where your solution
>> would
>> have meant spoiled product because it wouldnt work.
>
> *** smoke...
TRANSLATION --> "i dont understand how it all works, nate"
> You didn't say Uncle.
TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
>> ice machines are irrelevant as they have no need for either.
>
> All systems don't have the valve. Thanks
> for admitting that.
dude you really are a ------- fool. i NEVER said otherwise. this is
-------- smoke and mirrors on your part.
>> so if you know something about it, give me the settings on the FCC (CC =
>> cycle control, now google it and try to figure it out).
>
> We stopped playing that game.
TRANSLATION --> "i didnt even know the difference because i just dont know
cryo, nate"
yeah, no ----.
> This is the third time you've attempted to hide
> behind a three-letter acronym... this makes you
> a jerk.
TRANSLATION --> "please stop exposing my true ignorance, nate"
>> BZZT! NOT what im looking for!
>
> Well, it's what I'm giving.
TRANSLATION --> "i dont know, nate"
> The history books will get it right,
> eventually
TRANSLATION --> "when we grow up im gonna beat you up".
BUWAHAHA! :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:1eYKe.200$k92.182@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com. ..
>> and it doesnt change ----, liar. cryo is not refrigeration.
>
> http://www.ineosfluor.com/Refrigerat.../Cryogenic.asp
wtf? that paper is on cryogenic refrigeration. cryogenic refrigeration is
its own specialized segment. it is not refrigeration.
>> lol. you cant because you know NOTHING of cryo. :-)
>
> More TLA's... they're not going to save you,
> Nate.
but you sure choked on them! why? because you are an ignorant fool.
ignorant because you dont know refrigeration, and a fool because you would
try to -------- someone who _does_ about your qualifications. youre nothing
stephen. nothing but a liberal and a liar (course, "liberal" would have
covered both).
> See? Bald-faced assertions, like you know
> what you're talking about... when you haven't
> the slightest clue.
i know enough to know that NONE of it is proven. its all speculation and
belief.
> You're not qualified to
> make your statement
im not qualified to speak with authority. neither are you. we're _both_
speaking out of our belief, but none of it is proven.
> Your
> wilful ignorance may allow you to make a
> comfortable living
and it does! i went out just yesterday and threw down $9000 on kids toys.
http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=924 it means putting off my
next new jeep for a couple months, but ill get it. :-) perhaps if you
adopted some conservative values (accepting personal responsibility for
making your own way, hard work, ethics above all) you can enjoy a little
taste too. :-)
> See the above link... it is most certainly Refrigeration,
> with a capital 'R'.
it is NOT what i asked you for! your link is on cryogenic refrigeration.
my statment (which happens to be based in fact....i understand you never let
facts stand in your way though) is that cryogenic refrigeration is ITS OWN
specialized segment, that it is NOT refrigeration. i CLEARLY asked you for
an HVAC/R curriculum that included cryo. instead you threw a red herring.
nothing new there.
> if you want to leave here owning
> more than the shirt on your back!
lol such as assinine statement! :-)
> You discussed it because it was irrelevant?
no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
>> "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
>
> Perfectly good replacement, when no low
> ambient is coming. Order the part, replace
> the part, pull a vacuum, open the valves...
> fixed.
lol your example is totally foolish! it would do NOTHING but be a total
waste of time no matter what you want to claim (this time) that your valves
are for! that you would continue to defend your position after having it
explained to you many times just goes to show how much of a pathetic liar
you are. ive given you the facts, and nothing you can say will changed them
because unlike ozone depletion, refrigeration _is_ a known science. dude,
for your own knowledge i urge you to call a local refrigeration company in
your area and tell them about your "two valves and a pipe" and let them tell
you how foolish it is. hell, leave out the valves, just use the pipe and
let them tell you how foolish it is. its a pointless effort on MANY levels
and not a realistic solution for ANYTHING. even if you remove the HMC,
because the bypass in in place you still MUST regulate it or youll have
equal distribution which will lower your working pressures and starve your
system.
> You're hiding behind another TLA. It's
> a pattern for you. You think it shows
> knowlege
lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and clearly
stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of cycle
controller, _at all_. the process is completely different. if you knew
anything about the mechanical function of cryogenic refrigeration systems
you would have called me on that immediately. you are a LIAR.
> I'll
> admit to not knowing HVAC.
we arent discussing hvac. we're discussing refrigeration. and dont bother,
your ignorance and multiple ---- ups is all the admission that anyone
knowing anything about refrigeration will need to know.
>> and youre just as wrong back then! :-) you canNOT just bypass it.
>
> Well, are you lying now, or were you lying
> nineteen lines above?
ive explained it many times. if youre to STUPID to understand it then thats
your limitation. if an HMC were never installed to begin with you wouldnt
require regulation above low ambient, but since its there you MUST at least
regulate the bypass tube. your valves would require 24/7 monitoring which
isnt realistic, and your "Y" or "T" would distribute equally causing low
working pressures. you are WRONG stephen. your solution is assinine,
foolish, unrealistic, and a flat out waste of time.
> You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> pressure at the *outlet*.
you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure. you
had better read your little google a little closer. im going to keep this
one for later use, its blatent ignorance! :-) the expansion valve, you
------- FOOL, is located in the input side of the evaporator and regulates
the working pressures of the evaporator. see
http://www.aircondition.com/dsmobileac/poastv.html for a little basic
education, and then lets see an apology for your ignorance (or at least one
hell of a back-peddle! :-)
>> youre WRONG -------. you have to regulate both ways.....or come up with
>> another PAINFULLY simple way of making the pressure regulate itself.....
>
> Really, there's no need for the regulation...
> you said so yourself, above. Refrigerant
> only needs to be retained in the evaporator
> during low ambient... this lowers the efficiency
> of the evaporator during low outside temps.
lol dude....do you even know the difference of the componentry? google a
refrigerant flow chart or something. youre completely assinine and i have
to seriously wonder if youre smoking crack.
and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or the
refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
>> lol you fool, i was down in less than 10 minutes where your solution
>> would
>> have meant spoiled product because it wouldnt work.
>
> *** smoke...
TRANSLATION --> "i dont understand how it all works, nate"
> You didn't say Uncle.
TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
>> ice machines are irrelevant as they have no need for either.
>
> All systems don't have the valve. Thanks
> for admitting that.
dude you really are a ------- fool. i NEVER said otherwise. this is
-------- smoke and mirrors on your part.
>> so if you know something about it, give me the settings on the FCC (CC =
>> cycle control, now google it and try to figure it out).
>
> We stopped playing that game.
TRANSLATION --> "i didnt even know the difference because i just dont know
cryo, nate"
yeah, no ----.
> This is the third time you've attempted to hide
> behind a three-letter acronym... this makes you
> a jerk.
TRANSLATION --> "please stop exposing my true ignorance, nate"
>> BZZT! NOT what im looking for!
>
> Well, it's what I'm giving.
TRANSLATION --> "i dont know, nate"
> The history books will get it right,
> eventually
TRANSLATION --> "when we grow up im gonna beat you up".
BUWAHAHA! :-)
--
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http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> and it doesnt change ----, liar. cryo is not refrigeration.
>
> http://www.ineosfluor.com/Refrigerat.../Cryogenic.asp
wtf? that paper is on cryogenic refrigeration. cryogenic refrigeration is
its own specialized segment. it is not refrigeration.
>> lol. you cant because you know NOTHING of cryo. :-)
>
> More TLA's... they're not going to save you,
> Nate.
but you sure choked on them! why? because you are an ignorant fool.
ignorant because you dont know refrigeration, and a fool because you would
try to -------- someone who _does_ about your qualifications. youre nothing
stephen. nothing but a liberal and a liar (course, "liberal" would have
covered both).
> See? Bald-faced assertions, like you know
> what you're talking about... when you haven't
> the slightest clue.
i know enough to know that NONE of it is proven. its all speculation and
belief.
> You're not qualified to
> make your statement
im not qualified to speak with authority. neither are you. we're _both_
speaking out of our belief, but none of it is proven.
> Your
> wilful ignorance may allow you to make a
> comfortable living
and it does! i went out just yesterday and threw down $9000 on kids toys.
http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=924 it means putting off my
next new jeep for a couple months, but ill get it. :-) perhaps if you
adopted some conservative values (accepting personal responsibility for
making your own way, hard work, ethics above all) you can enjoy a little
taste too. :-)
> See the above link... it is most certainly Refrigeration,
> with a capital 'R'.
it is NOT what i asked you for! your link is on cryogenic refrigeration.
my statment (which happens to be based in fact....i understand you never let
facts stand in your way though) is that cryogenic refrigeration is ITS OWN
specialized segment, that it is NOT refrigeration. i CLEARLY asked you for
an HVAC/R curriculum that included cryo. instead you threw a red herring.
nothing new there.
> if you want to leave here owning
> more than the shirt on your back!
lol such as assinine statement! :-)
> You discussed it because it was irrelevant?
no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
>> "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
>
> Perfectly good replacement, when no low
> ambient is coming. Order the part, replace
> the part, pull a vacuum, open the valves...
> fixed.
lol your example is totally foolish! it would do NOTHING but be a total
waste of time no matter what you want to claim (this time) that your valves
are for! that you would continue to defend your position after having it
explained to you many times just goes to show how much of a pathetic liar
you are. ive given you the facts, and nothing you can say will changed them
because unlike ozone depletion, refrigeration _is_ a known science. dude,
for your own knowledge i urge you to call a local refrigeration company in
your area and tell them about your "two valves and a pipe" and let them tell
you how foolish it is. hell, leave out the valves, just use the pipe and
let them tell you how foolish it is. its a pointless effort on MANY levels
and not a realistic solution for ANYTHING. even if you remove the HMC,
because the bypass in in place you still MUST regulate it or youll have
equal distribution which will lower your working pressures and starve your
system.
> You're hiding behind another TLA. It's
> a pattern for you. You think it shows
> knowlege
lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and clearly
stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of cycle
controller, _at all_. the process is completely different. if you knew
anything about the mechanical function of cryogenic refrigeration systems
you would have called me on that immediately. you are a LIAR.
> I'll
> admit to not knowing HVAC.
we arent discussing hvac. we're discussing refrigeration. and dont bother,
your ignorance and multiple ---- ups is all the admission that anyone
knowing anything about refrigeration will need to know.
>> and youre just as wrong back then! :-) you canNOT just bypass it.
>
> Well, are you lying now, or were you lying
> nineteen lines above?
ive explained it many times. if youre to STUPID to understand it then thats
your limitation. if an HMC were never installed to begin with you wouldnt
require regulation above low ambient, but since its there you MUST at least
regulate the bypass tube. your valves would require 24/7 monitoring which
isnt realistic, and your "Y" or "T" would distribute equally causing low
working pressures. you are WRONG stephen. your solution is assinine,
foolish, unrealistic, and a flat out waste of time.
> You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> pressure at the *outlet*.
you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure. you
had better read your little google a little closer. im going to keep this
one for later use, its blatent ignorance! :-) the expansion valve, you
------- FOOL, is located in the input side of the evaporator and regulates
the working pressures of the evaporator. see
http://www.aircondition.com/dsmobileac/poastv.html for a little basic
education, and then lets see an apology for your ignorance (or at least one
hell of a back-peddle! :-)
>> youre WRONG -------. you have to regulate both ways.....or come up with
>> another PAINFULLY simple way of making the pressure regulate itself.....
>
> Really, there's no need for the regulation...
> you said so yourself, above. Refrigerant
> only needs to be retained in the evaporator
> during low ambient... this lowers the efficiency
> of the evaporator during low outside temps.
lol dude....do you even know the difference of the componentry? google a
refrigerant flow chart or something. youre completely assinine and i have
to seriously wonder if youre smoking crack.
and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or the
refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
>> lol you fool, i was down in less than 10 minutes where your solution
>> would
>> have meant spoiled product because it wouldnt work.
>
> *** smoke...
TRANSLATION --> "i dont understand how it all works, nate"
> You didn't say Uncle.
TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
>> ice machines are irrelevant as they have no need for either.
>
> All systems don't have the valve. Thanks
> for admitting that.
dude you really are a ------- fool. i NEVER said otherwise. this is
-------- smoke and mirrors on your part.
>> so if you know something about it, give me the settings on the FCC (CC =
>> cycle control, now google it and try to figure it out).
>
> We stopped playing that game.
TRANSLATION --> "i didnt even know the difference because i just dont know
cryo, nate"
yeah, no ----.
> This is the third time you've attempted to hide
> behind a three-letter acronym... this makes you
> a jerk.
TRANSLATION --> "please stop exposing my true ignorance, nate"
>> BZZT! NOT what im looking for!
>
> Well, it's what I'm giving.
TRANSLATION --> "i dont know, nate"
> The history books will get it right,
> eventually
TRANSLATION --> "when we grow up im gonna beat you up".
BUWAHAHA! :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:1eYKe.200$k92.182@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com. ..
>> and it doesnt change ----, liar. cryo is not refrigeration.
>
> http://www.ineosfluor.com/Refrigerat.../Cryogenic.asp
wtf? that paper is on cryogenic refrigeration. cryogenic refrigeration is
its own specialized segment. it is not refrigeration.
>> lol. you cant because you know NOTHING of cryo. :-)
>
> More TLA's... they're not going to save you,
> Nate.
but you sure choked on them! why? because you are an ignorant fool.
ignorant because you dont know refrigeration, and a fool because you would
try to -------- someone who _does_ about your qualifications. youre nothing
stephen. nothing but a liberal and a liar (course, "liberal" would have
covered both).
> See? Bald-faced assertions, like you know
> what you're talking about... when you haven't
> the slightest clue.
i know enough to know that NONE of it is proven. its all speculation and
belief.
> You're not qualified to
> make your statement
im not qualified to speak with authority. neither are you. we're _both_
speaking out of our belief, but none of it is proven.
> Your
> wilful ignorance may allow you to make a
> comfortable living
and it does! i went out just yesterday and threw down $9000 on kids toys.
http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=924 it means putting off my
next new jeep for a couple months, but ill get it. :-) perhaps if you
adopted some conservative values (accepting personal responsibility for
making your own way, hard work, ethics above all) you can enjoy a little
taste too. :-)
> See the above link... it is most certainly Refrigeration,
> with a capital 'R'.
it is NOT what i asked you for! your link is on cryogenic refrigeration.
my statment (which happens to be based in fact....i understand you never let
facts stand in your way though) is that cryogenic refrigeration is ITS OWN
specialized segment, that it is NOT refrigeration. i CLEARLY asked you for
an HVAC/R curriculum that included cryo. instead you threw a red herring.
nothing new there.
> if you want to leave here owning
> more than the shirt on your back!
lol such as assinine statement! :-)
> You discussed it because it was irrelevant?
no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
>> "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
>
> Perfectly good replacement, when no low
> ambient is coming. Order the part, replace
> the part, pull a vacuum, open the valves...
> fixed.
lol your example is totally foolish! it would do NOTHING but be a total
waste of time no matter what you want to claim (this time) that your valves
are for! that you would continue to defend your position after having it
explained to you many times just goes to show how much of a pathetic liar
you are. ive given you the facts, and nothing you can say will changed them
because unlike ozone depletion, refrigeration _is_ a known science. dude,
for your own knowledge i urge you to call a local refrigeration company in
your area and tell them about your "two valves and a pipe" and let them tell
you how foolish it is. hell, leave out the valves, just use the pipe and
let them tell you how foolish it is. its a pointless effort on MANY levels
and not a realistic solution for ANYTHING. even if you remove the HMC,
because the bypass in in place you still MUST regulate it or youll have
equal distribution which will lower your working pressures and starve your
system.
> You're hiding behind another TLA. It's
> a pattern for you. You think it shows
> knowlege
lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and clearly
stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of cycle
controller, _at all_. the process is completely different. if you knew
anything about the mechanical function of cryogenic refrigeration systems
you would have called me on that immediately. you are a LIAR.
> I'll
> admit to not knowing HVAC.
we arent discussing hvac. we're discussing refrigeration. and dont bother,
your ignorance and multiple ---- ups is all the admission that anyone
knowing anything about refrigeration will need to know.
>> and youre just as wrong back then! :-) you canNOT just bypass it.
>
> Well, are you lying now, or were you lying
> nineteen lines above?
ive explained it many times. if youre to STUPID to understand it then thats
your limitation. if an HMC were never installed to begin with you wouldnt
require regulation above low ambient, but since its there you MUST at least
regulate the bypass tube. your valves would require 24/7 monitoring which
isnt realistic, and your "Y" or "T" would distribute equally causing low
working pressures. you are WRONG stephen. your solution is assinine,
foolish, unrealistic, and a flat out waste of time.
> You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> pressure at the *outlet*.
you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure. you
had better read your little google a little closer. im going to keep this
one for later use, its blatent ignorance! :-) the expansion valve, you
------- FOOL, is located in the input side of the evaporator and regulates
the working pressures of the evaporator. see
http://www.aircondition.com/dsmobileac/poastv.html for a little basic
education, and then lets see an apology for your ignorance (or at least one
hell of a back-peddle! :-)
>> youre WRONG -------. you have to regulate both ways.....or come up with
>> another PAINFULLY simple way of making the pressure regulate itself.....
>
> Really, there's no need for the regulation...
> you said so yourself, above. Refrigerant
> only needs to be retained in the evaporator
> during low ambient... this lowers the efficiency
> of the evaporator during low outside temps.
lol dude....do you even know the difference of the componentry? google a
refrigerant flow chart or something. youre completely assinine and i have
to seriously wonder if youre smoking crack.
and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or the
refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
>> lol you fool, i was down in less than 10 minutes where your solution
>> would
>> have meant spoiled product because it wouldnt work.
>
> *** smoke...
TRANSLATION --> "i dont understand how it all works, nate"
> You didn't say Uncle.
TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
>> ice machines are irrelevant as they have no need for either.
>
> All systems don't have the valve. Thanks
> for admitting that.
dude you really are a ------- fool. i NEVER said otherwise. this is
-------- smoke and mirrors on your part.
>> so if you know something about it, give me the settings on the FCC (CC =
>> cycle control, now google it and try to figure it out).
>
> We stopped playing that game.
TRANSLATION --> "i didnt even know the difference because i just dont know
cryo, nate"
yeah, no ----.
> This is the third time you've attempted to hide
> behind a three-letter acronym... this makes you
> a jerk.
TRANSLATION --> "please stop exposing my true ignorance, nate"
>> BZZT! NOT what im looking for!
>
> Well, it's what I'm giving.
TRANSLATION --> "i dont know, nate"
> The history books will get it right,
> eventually
TRANSLATION --> "when we grow up im gonna beat you up".
BUWAHAHA! :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Liar.
lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
way out of it now. :-)
> A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
lol and its WRONG! :-)
>> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
>> thus
>> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> choking
>> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
>
> Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
yup.....and if you cant even understand how that one works you dont have a
chance with a multi-port distributor system. :-) you cant LIE your way out
of this one stevie. youre stump stupid and you cant hide in in areas of
documented science. perhaps this is why you dedicate so much of yourself to
UNPROVEN speculation....its the only place you can hope to hide your lies.
> The valves let you close off the two
> ports for the head pressure control, and
> bypass it with a piece of pipe.
lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
valves and a pipe to regulate pressures (BUWAHAHA!!!!!:-) when i point out
that it would require 24/7 monitoring you change it to a "pipe and a Y".
when i point out that it would give equal distribution you bring the valves
back. BUWAHAHA! :-) youre pitiful, youre a LIAR, and to top it off youre
a pitiful liar. :-)
> The pipe
> has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> the shunt with a proper HPC before
> low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain condensor
pressure.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:MMYKe.927$bp5.323@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net. ..
> Liar.
lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
way out of it now. :-)
> A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
lol and its WRONG! :-)
>> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
>> thus
>> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> choking
>> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
>
> Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
yup.....and if you cant even understand how that one works you dont have a
chance with a multi-port distributor system. :-) you cant LIE your way out
of this one stevie. youre stump stupid and you cant hide in in areas of
documented science. perhaps this is why you dedicate so much of yourself to
UNPROVEN speculation....its the only place you can hope to hide your lies.
> The valves let you close off the two
> ports for the head pressure control, and
> bypass it with a piece of pipe.
lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
valves and a pipe to regulate pressures (BUWAHAHA!!!!!:-) when i point out
that it would require 24/7 monitoring you change it to a "pipe and a Y".
when i point out that it would give equal distribution you bring the valves
back. BUWAHAHA! :-) youre pitiful, youre a LIAR, and to top it off youre
a pitiful liar. :-)
> The pipe
> has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> the shunt with a proper HPC before
> low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain condensor
pressure.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Liar.
lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
way out of it now. :-)
> A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
lol and its WRONG! :-)
>> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
>> thus
>> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> choking
>> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
>
> Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
yup.....and if you cant even understand how that one works you dont have a
chance with a multi-port distributor system. :-) you cant LIE your way out
of this one stevie. youre stump stupid and you cant hide in in areas of
documented science. perhaps this is why you dedicate so much of yourself to
UNPROVEN speculation....its the only place you can hope to hide your lies.
> The valves let you close off the two
> ports for the head pressure control, and
> bypass it with a piece of pipe.
lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
valves and a pipe to regulate pressures (BUWAHAHA!!!!!:-) when i point out
that it would require 24/7 monitoring you change it to a "pipe and a Y".
when i point out that it would give equal distribution you bring the valves
back. BUWAHAHA! :-) youre pitiful, youre a LIAR, and to top it off youre
a pitiful liar. :-)
> The pipe
> has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> the shunt with a proper HPC before
> low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain condensor
pressure.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:MMYKe.927$bp5.323@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net. ..
> Liar.
lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
way out of it now. :-)
> A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
lol and its WRONG! :-)
>> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
>> thus
>> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> choking
>> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
>
> Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
yup.....and if you cant even understand how that one works you dont have a
chance with a multi-port distributor system. :-) you cant LIE your way out
of this one stevie. youre stump stupid and you cant hide in in areas of
documented science. perhaps this is why you dedicate so much of yourself to
UNPROVEN speculation....its the only place you can hope to hide your lies.
> The valves let you close off the two
> ports for the head pressure control, and
> bypass it with a piece of pipe.
lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
valves and a pipe to regulate pressures (BUWAHAHA!!!!!:-) when i point out
that it would require 24/7 monitoring you change it to a "pipe and a Y".
when i point out that it would give equal distribution you bring the valves
back. BUWAHAHA! :-) youre pitiful, youre a LIAR, and to top it off youre
a pitiful liar. :-)
> The pipe
> has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> the shunt with a proper HPC before
> low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain condensor
pressure.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Liar.
lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
way out of it now. :-)
> A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
lol and its WRONG! :-)
>> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
>> thus
>> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> choking
>> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
>
> Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
yup.....and if you cant even understand how that one works you dont have a
chance with a multi-port distributor system. :-) you cant LIE your way out
of this one stevie. youre stump stupid and you cant hide in in areas of
documented science. perhaps this is why you dedicate so much of yourself to
UNPROVEN speculation....its the only place you can hope to hide your lies.
> The valves let you close off the two
> ports for the head pressure control, and
> bypass it with a piece of pipe.
lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
valves and a pipe to regulate pressures (BUWAHAHA!!!!!:-) when i point out
that it would require 24/7 monitoring you change it to a "pipe and a Y".
when i point out that it would give equal distribution you bring the valves
back. BUWAHAHA! :-) youre pitiful, youre a LIAR, and to top it off youre
a pitiful liar. :-)
> The pipe
> has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> the shunt with a proper HPC before
> low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain condensor
pressure.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:MMYKe.927$bp5.323@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net. ..
> Liar.
lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
way out of it now. :-)
> A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
lol and its WRONG! :-)
>> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
>> thus
>> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> choking
>> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
>
> Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
yup.....and if you cant even understand how that one works you dont have a
chance with a multi-port distributor system. :-) you cant LIE your way out
of this one stevie. youre stump stupid and you cant hide in in areas of
documented science. perhaps this is why you dedicate so much of yourself to
UNPROVEN speculation....its the only place you can hope to hide your lies.
> The valves let you close off the two
> ports for the head pressure control, and
> bypass it with a piece of pipe.
lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
valves and a pipe to regulate pressures (BUWAHAHA!!!!!:-) when i point out
that it would require 24/7 monitoring you change it to a "pipe and a Y".
when i point out that it would give equal distribution you bring the valves
back. BUWAHAHA! :-) youre pitiful, youre a LIAR, and to top it off youre
a pitiful liar. :-)
> The pipe
> has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> the shunt with a proper HPC before
> low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain condensor
pressure.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Liar.
lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
way out of it now. :-)
> A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
lol and its WRONG! :-)
>> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
>> thus
>> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> choking
>> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
>
> Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
yup.....and if you cant even understand how that one works you dont have a
chance with a multi-port distributor system. :-) you cant LIE your way out
of this one stevie. youre stump stupid and you cant hide in in areas of
documented science. perhaps this is why you dedicate so much of yourself to
UNPROVEN speculation....its the only place you can hope to hide your lies.
> The valves let you close off the two
> ports for the head pressure control, and
> bypass it with a piece of pipe.
lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
valves and a pipe to regulate pressures (BUWAHAHA!!!!!:-) when i point out
that it would require 24/7 monitoring you change it to a "pipe and a Y".
when i point out that it would give equal distribution you bring the valves
back. BUWAHAHA! :-) youre pitiful, youre a LIAR, and to top it off youre
a pitiful liar. :-)
> The pipe
> has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> the shunt with a proper HPC before
> low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain condensor
pressure.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:MMYKe.927$bp5.323@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net. ..
> Liar.
lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
way out of it now. :-)
> A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
lol and its WRONG! :-)
>> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
>> thus
>> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> choking
>> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
>
> Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
yup.....and if you cant even understand how that one works you dont have a
chance with a multi-port distributor system. :-) you cant LIE your way out
of this one stevie. youre stump stupid and you cant hide in in areas of
documented science. perhaps this is why you dedicate so much of yourself to
UNPROVEN speculation....its the only place you can hope to hide your lies.
> The valves let you close off the two
> ports for the head pressure control, and
> bypass it with a piece of pipe.
lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
valves and a pipe to regulate pressures (BUWAHAHA!!!!!:-) when i point out
that it would require 24/7 monitoring you change it to a "pipe and a Y".
when i point out that it would give equal distribution you bring the valves
back. BUWAHAHA! :-) youre pitiful, youre a LIAR, and to top it off youre
a pitiful liar. :-)
> The pipe
> has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> the shunt with a proper HPC before
> low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain condensor
pressure.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
#4358
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fonbr7f6le4a6@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:MMYKe.927$bp5.323@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net. ..
>> ALL you said was:
>>
>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>Liar.
Lack of any response noted... ***** busted. Note he
said:
<>
now liar, show me ANYWHERE in that post
where you asked me what was meant by
in a pinch prior to me stating it for you. liar.
</>
And, of course, there it was for all
to read, *before* his elaboration of
'in a pinch', me asking that *exact* thing:
<>
Do you mean the coupling is in a pinch, or that you're in
a pinch to replace it?
</>
Things are starting to look bad for you, Nate...
we can no longer trust what you post.
>>> > The
>>> > challenge was poorly spec'ed... and as such I met the
>>> > criteria.
>>>
>>> the challenge was clear and you choked. :-)
>>
>>Liar.
>
> lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
>
> the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
> understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
> way out of it now. :-)
And of course, I posted this way back
on July 5:
>><>
>>I'd suppose that in a pinch, without low ambient
>>temps coming, you could just do without the
>>HPC (proper terminology).
>></>
See! What a brazen liar.. when we all can read!
> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>
> lol and its WRONG! :-)
We no longer believe a damn thing
you write... you are not to be trusted.
> >> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
> >> thus
> >> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> > choking
> >> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
> >
> > Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
>
> yup.....
Then are you lying, or were you just stupid, when
you referred to the three-port device?
> > The valves let you close off the two
> > ports for the head pressure control, and
> > bypass it with a piece of pipe.
>
> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
Never said it, another big lie. Show any post
where I said that... you can't. My intent all the
time was to simply shunt the two-port head
pressure control... the valves were put there
to enable easy replacement of the part when it
came in. My answer included the caveat of
no low ambient. After you complained, I
even spec'ed a bleeder fitting, for pulling
a vacuum!
> > The pipe
> > has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> > After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> > valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> > the shunt with a proper HPC before
> > low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
>
> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
condensor
> pressure.
We no longer believe a thing you write.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
..
#4359
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fonbr7f6le4a6@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:MMYKe.927$bp5.323@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net. ..
>> ALL you said was:
>>
>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>Liar.
Lack of any response noted... ***** busted. Note he
said:
<>
now liar, show me ANYWHERE in that post
where you asked me what was meant by
in a pinch prior to me stating it for you. liar.
</>
And, of course, there it was for all
to read, *before* his elaboration of
'in a pinch', me asking that *exact* thing:
<>
Do you mean the coupling is in a pinch, or that you're in
a pinch to replace it?
</>
Things are starting to look bad for you, Nate...
we can no longer trust what you post.
>>> > The
>>> > challenge was poorly spec'ed... and as such I met the
>>> > criteria.
>>>
>>> the challenge was clear and you choked. :-)
>>
>>Liar.
>
> lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
>
> the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
> understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
> way out of it now. :-)
And of course, I posted this way back
on July 5:
>><>
>>I'd suppose that in a pinch, without low ambient
>>temps coming, you could just do without the
>>HPC (proper terminology).
>></>
See! What a brazen liar.. when we all can read!
> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>
> lol and its WRONG! :-)
We no longer believe a damn thing
you write... you are not to be trusted.
> >> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
> >> thus
> >> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> > choking
> >> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
> >
> > Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
>
> yup.....
Then are you lying, or were you just stupid, when
you referred to the three-port device?
> > The valves let you close off the two
> > ports for the head pressure control, and
> > bypass it with a piece of pipe.
>
> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
Never said it, another big lie. Show any post
where I said that... you can't. My intent all the
time was to simply shunt the two-port head
pressure control... the valves were put there
to enable easy replacement of the part when it
came in. My answer included the caveat of
no low ambient. After you complained, I
even spec'ed a bleeder fitting, for pulling
a vacuum!
> > The pipe
> > has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> > After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> > valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> > the shunt with a proper HPC before
> > low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
>
> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
condensor
> pressure.
We no longer believe a thing you write.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
..
#4360
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fonbr7f6le4a6@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:MMYKe.927$bp5.323@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net. ..
>> ALL you said was:
>>
>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>Liar.
Lack of any response noted... ***** busted. Note he
said:
<>
now liar, show me ANYWHERE in that post
where you asked me what was meant by
in a pinch prior to me stating it for you. liar.
</>
And, of course, there it was for all
to read, *before* his elaboration of
'in a pinch', me asking that *exact* thing:
<>
Do you mean the coupling is in a pinch, or that you're in
a pinch to replace it?
</>
Things are starting to look bad for you, Nate...
we can no longer trust what you post.
>>> > The
>>> > challenge was poorly spec'ed... and as such I met the
>>> > criteria.
>>>
>>> the challenge was clear and you choked. :-)
>>
>>Liar.
>
> lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
>
> the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
> understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
> way out of it now. :-)
And of course, I posted this way back
on July 5:
>><>
>>I'd suppose that in a pinch, without low ambient
>>temps coming, you could just do without the
>>HPC (proper terminology).
>></>
See! What a brazen liar.. when we all can read!
> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>
> lol and its WRONG! :-)
We no longer believe a damn thing
you write... you are not to be trusted.
> >> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
> >> thus
> >> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> > choking
> >> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
> >
> > Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
>
> yup.....
Then are you lying, or were you just stupid, when
you referred to the three-port device?
> > The valves let you close off the two
> > ports for the head pressure control, and
> > bypass it with a piece of pipe.
>
> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
Never said it, another big lie. Show any post
where I said that... you can't. My intent all the
time was to simply shunt the two-port head
pressure control... the valves were put there
to enable easy replacement of the part when it
came in. My answer included the caveat of
no low ambient. After you complained, I
even spec'ed a bleeder fitting, for pulling
a vacuum!
> > The pipe
> > has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> > After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> > valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> > the shunt with a proper HPC before
> > low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
>
> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
condensor
> pressure.
We no longer believe a thing you write.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
..