134a Refrigerant
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> ALL you said was:
>>
>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>Liar.
Lack of any response noted... ***** busted. Note he
said:
<>
now liar, show me ANYWHERE in that post
where you asked me what was meant by
in a pinch prior to me stating it for you. liar.
</>
And, of course, there it was for all
to read, *before* his elaboration of
'in a pinch', me asking that *exact* thing:
<>
Do you mean the coupling is in a pinch, or that you're in
a pinch to replace it?
</>
Things are starting to look bad for you, Nate...
we can no longer trust what you post.
>>> > The
>>> > challenge was poorly spec'ed... and as such I met the
>>> > criteria.
>>>
>>> the challenge was clear and you choked. :-)
>>
>>Liar.
>
> lol....simple case of transference there! BUWAHAHAH!!!!!! :-)
>
> the -30 ambient was clear. you only choked on it because you didnt
> understand its relavance. :-) certainly i expect you to try to lie your
> way out of it now. :-)
And of course, I posted this way back
on July 5:
>><>
>>I'd suppose that in a pinch, without low ambient
>>temps coming, you could just do without the
>>HPC (proper terminology).
>></>
See! What a brazen liar.. when we all can read!
> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>
> lol and its WRONG! :-)
We no longer believe a damn thing
you write... you are not to be trusted.
> >> lol.....smoke and mirrors! there are ALL TYPES of HMC distributors.
> >> thus
> >> far ive limited this discussion to the MOST BASIC. as bad as youre
> > choking
> >> on the basics its pointless to confuse you farther. :-)
> >
> > Dumbass... the simplest is the two-port.
>
> yup.....
Then are you lying, or were you just stupid, when
you referred to the three-port device?
> > The valves let you close off the two
> > ports for the head pressure control, and
> > bypass it with a piece of pipe.
>
> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say two
> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
Never said it, another big lie. Show any post
where I said that... you can't. My intent all the
time was to simply shunt the two-port head
pressure control... the valves were put there
to enable easy replacement of the part when it
came in. My answer included the caveat of
no low ambient. After you complained, I
even spec'ed a bleeder fitting, for pulling
a vacuum!
> > The pipe
> > has a bleeder fitting, to pull a vacuum with.
> > After the vacuum is pulled, then open the
> > valves and start refrigerating. Replace
> > the shunt with a proper HPC before
> > low ambient hits. ------- dumbass.
>
> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
condensor
> pressure.
We no longer believe a thing you write.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>
>>Liar.
>
> Lack of any response noted.
those were YOUR words, liar.
> Things are starting to look bad for you
TRANSLATION--> "i have no response so ill throw more -------- smoke &
mirrors to avoid attempting to form a real response.
> And of course, I posted this way back
> on July 5:
irrelevant. you STILL choked. your response was STILL completely assinine.
"two valves and a pipe" BUWHAHAHA! :-)
>> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>>
>> lol and its WRONG! :-)
>
> We no longer believe a damn thing
> you write
lol....youre speaking for yourself so dont play bandwagon in a pitiful
attempt of looking like you have support. and it doesnt matter whether you
believe it or not, youre WRONG! ive asked you many times to call a
refrigeration company in your local area and ask them about your "two valves
and a piple" (BUWHAHAA!). you glance over that because you know that youre
wrong and you simply havent the integrity to own it. :-)
> when
> you referred to the three-port device?
i never referenced this as having anything to do with our discussion, liar.
i simply mentioned they existed and that you couldnt handle discussing them.
>> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say
>> two
>> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
>
> Never said it
liar. your implication was clear.
two valves and a pipe. BUWAHAHA! :-)
>> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
> condensor
>> pressure.
>
> We no longer believe a thing you write.
and youre still pitifully wrong. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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>>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>
>>Liar.
>
> Lack of any response noted.
those were YOUR words, liar.
> Things are starting to look bad for you
TRANSLATION--> "i have no response so ill throw more -------- smoke &
mirrors to avoid attempting to form a real response.
> And of course, I posted this way back
> on July 5:
irrelevant. you STILL choked. your response was STILL completely assinine.
"two valves and a pipe" BUWHAHAHA! :-)
>> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>>
>> lol and its WRONG! :-)
>
> We no longer believe a damn thing
> you write
lol....youre speaking for yourself so dont play bandwagon in a pitiful
attempt of looking like you have support. and it doesnt matter whether you
believe it or not, youre WRONG! ive asked you many times to call a
refrigeration company in your local area and ask them about your "two valves
and a piple" (BUWHAHAA!). you glance over that because you know that youre
wrong and you simply havent the integrity to own it. :-)
> when
> you referred to the three-port device?
i never referenced this as having anything to do with our discussion, liar.
i simply mentioned they existed and that you couldnt handle discussing them.
>> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say
>> two
>> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
>
> Never said it
liar. your implication was clear.
two valves and a pipe. BUWAHAHA! :-)
>> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
> condensor
>> pressure.
>
> We no longer believe a thing you write.
and youre still pitifully wrong. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>
>>Liar.
>
> Lack of any response noted.
those were YOUR words, liar.
> Things are starting to look bad for you
TRANSLATION--> "i have no response so ill throw more -------- smoke &
mirrors to avoid attempting to form a real response.
> And of course, I posted this way back
> on July 5:
irrelevant. you STILL choked. your response was STILL completely assinine.
"two valves and a pipe" BUWHAHAHA! :-)
>> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>>
>> lol and its WRONG! :-)
>
> We no longer believe a damn thing
> you write
lol....youre speaking for yourself so dont play bandwagon in a pitiful
attempt of looking like you have support. and it doesnt matter whether you
believe it or not, youre WRONG! ive asked you many times to call a
refrigeration company in your local area and ask them about your "two valves
and a piple" (BUWHAHAA!). you glance over that because you know that youre
wrong and you simply havent the integrity to own it. :-)
> when
> you referred to the three-port device?
i never referenced this as having anything to do with our discussion, liar.
i simply mentioned they existed and that you couldnt handle discussing them.
>> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say
>> two
>> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
>
> Never said it
liar. your implication was clear.
two valves and a pipe. BUWAHAHA! :-)
>> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
> condensor
>> pressure.
>
> We no longer believe a thing you write.
and youre still pitifully wrong. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:yh1Me.2481$Hn3.1971@newssvr23.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>
>>Liar.
>
> Lack of any response noted.
those were YOUR words, liar.
> Things are starting to look bad for you
TRANSLATION--> "i have no response so ill throw more -------- smoke &
mirrors to avoid attempting to form a real response.
> And of course, I posted this way back
> on July 5:
irrelevant. you STILL choked. your response was STILL completely assinine.
"two valves and a pipe" BUWHAHAHA! :-)
>> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>>
>> lol and its WRONG! :-)
>
> We no longer believe a damn thing
> you write
lol....youre speaking for yourself so dont play bandwagon in a pitiful
attempt of looking like you have support. and it doesnt matter whether you
believe it or not, youre WRONG! ive asked you many times to call a
refrigeration company in your local area and ask them about your "two valves
and a piple" (BUWHAHAA!). you glance over that because you know that youre
wrong and you simply havent the integrity to own it. :-)
> when
> you referred to the three-port device?
i never referenced this as having anything to do with our discussion, liar.
i simply mentioned they existed and that you couldnt handle discussing them.
>> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say
>> two
>> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
>
> Never said it
liar. your implication was clear.
two valves and a pipe. BUWAHAHA! :-)
>> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
> condensor
>> pressure.
>
> We no longer believe a thing you write.
and youre still pitifully wrong. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>
>>Liar.
>
> Lack of any response noted.
those were YOUR words, liar.
> Things are starting to look bad for you
TRANSLATION--> "i have no response so ill throw more -------- smoke &
mirrors to avoid attempting to form a real response.
> And of course, I posted this way back
> on July 5:
irrelevant. you STILL choked. your response was STILL completely assinine.
"two valves and a pipe" BUWHAHAHA! :-)
>> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>>
>> lol and its WRONG! :-)
>
> We no longer believe a damn thing
> you write
lol....youre speaking for yourself so dont play bandwagon in a pitiful
attempt of looking like you have support. and it doesnt matter whether you
believe it or not, youre WRONG! ive asked you many times to call a
refrigeration company in your local area and ask them about your "two valves
and a piple" (BUWHAHAA!). you glance over that because you know that youre
wrong and you simply havent the integrity to own it. :-)
> when
> you referred to the three-port device?
i never referenced this as having anything to do with our discussion, liar.
i simply mentioned they existed and that you couldnt handle discussing them.
>> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say
>> two
>> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
>
> Never said it
liar. your implication was clear.
two valves and a pipe. BUWAHAHA! :-)
>> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
> condensor
>> pressure.
>
> We no longer believe a thing you write.
and youre still pitifully wrong. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:yh1Me.2481$Hn3.1971@newssvr23.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>
>>Liar.
>
> Lack of any response noted.
those were YOUR words, liar.
> Things are starting to look bad for you
TRANSLATION--> "i have no response so ill throw more -------- smoke &
mirrors to avoid attempting to form a real response.
> And of course, I posted this way back
> on July 5:
irrelevant. you STILL choked. your response was STILL completely assinine.
"two valves and a pipe" BUWHAHAHA! :-)
>> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>>
>> lol and its WRONG! :-)
>
> We no longer believe a damn thing
> you write
lol....youre speaking for yourself so dont play bandwagon in a pitiful
attempt of looking like you have support. and it doesnt matter whether you
believe it or not, youre WRONG! ive asked you many times to call a
refrigeration company in your local area and ask them about your "two valves
and a piple" (BUWHAHAA!). you glance over that because you know that youre
wrong and you simply havent the integrity to own it. :-)
> when
> you referred to the three-port device?
i never referenced this as having anything to do with our discussion, liar.
i simply mentioned they existed and that you couldnt handle discussing them.
>> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say
>> two
>> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
>
> Never said it
liar. your implication was clear.
two valves and a pipe. BUWAHAHA! :-)
>> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
> condensor
>> pressure.
>
> We no longer believe a thing you write.
and youre still pitifully wrong. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>
>>Liar.
>
> Lack of any response noted.
those were YOUR words, liar.
> Things are starting to look bad for you
TRANSLATION--> "i have no response so ill throw more -------- smoke &
mirrors to avoid attempting to form a real response.
> And of course, I posted this way back
> on July 5:
irrelevant. you STILL choked. your response was STILL completely assinine.
"two valves and a pipe" BUWHAHAHA! :-)
>> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>>
>> lol and its WRONG! :-)
>
> We no longer believe a damn thing
> you write
lol....youre speaking for yourself so dont play bandwagon in a pitiful
attempt of looking like you have support. and it doesnt matter whether you
believe it or not, youre WRONG! ive asked you many times to call a
refrigeration company in your local area and ask them about your "two valves
and a piple" (BUWHAHAA!). you glance over that because you know that youre
wrong and you simply havent the integrity to own it. :-)
> when
> you referred to the three-port device?
i never referenced this as having anything to do with our discussion, liar.
i simply mentioned they existed and that you couldnt handle discussing them.
>> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say
>> two
>> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
>
> Never said it
liar. your implication was clear.
two valves and a pipe. BUWAHAHA! :-)
>> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
> condensor
>> pressure.
>
> We no longer believe a thing you write.
and youre still pitifully wrong. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:yh1Me.2481$Hn3.1971@newssvr23.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>> "What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
>
>>Liar.
>
> Lack of any response noted.
those were YOUR words, liar.
> Things are starting to look bad for you
TRANSLATION--> "i have no response so ill throw more -------- smoke &
mirrors to avoid attempting to form a real response.
> And of course, I posted this way back
> on July 5:
irrelevant. you STILL choked. your response was STILL completely assinine.
"two valves and a pipe" BUWHAHAHA! :-)
>> > A piece of pipe... you have my answer.
>>
>> lol and its WRONG! :-)
>
> We no longer believe a damn thing
> you write
lol....youre speaking for yourself so dont play bandwagon in a pitiful
attempt of looking like you have support. and it doesnt matter whether you
believe it or not, youre WRONG! ive asked you many times to call a
refrigeration company in your local area and ask them about your "two valves
and a piple" (BUWHAHAA!). you glance over that because you know that youre
wrong and you simply havent the integrity to own it. :-)
> when
> you referred to the three-port device?
i never referenced this as having anything to do with our discussion, liar.
i simply mentioned they existed and that you couldnt handle discussing them.
>> lol so now youre recommendation changes yet AGAIN! :-) first you say
>> two
>> valves and a pipe to regulate pressures
>
> Never said it
liar. your implication was clear.
two valves and a pipe. BUWAHAHA! :-)
>> hey ------- dumbass, you still have to regulate bypass to maintain
> condensor
>> pressure.
>
> We no longer believe a thing you write.
and youre still pitifully wrong. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1eYKe.200$k92.182@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >> and it doesnt change ----, liar. cryo is not refrigeration.
> >
> >
http://www.ineosfluor.com/Refrigerat.../Cryogenic.asp
>
> wtf? that paper is on cryogenic refrigeration. cryogenic refrigeration
is
> its own specialized segment. it is not refrigeration.
Everyone listen! Cryogenic refrigeration is not
refrigeration! English language changed! Film
at 11!
> >> lol. you cant because you know NOTHING of cryo. :-)
> >
> > More TLA's... they're not going to save you,
> > Nate.
>
> but you sure choked on them! why? because you are an ignorant fool.
> ignorant because you dont know refrigeration, and a fool because you would
> try to -------- someone who _does_ about your qualifications. youre
nothing
> stephen. nothing but a liberal and a liar (course, "liberal" would have
> covered both).
They still won't save you... you're still hiding
behind them. The same thing will happen again,
and you *know* it.
> > See? Bald-faced assertions, like you know
> > what you're talking about... when you haven't
> > the slightest clue.
>
> i know enough to know that NONE of it is proven. its all speculation and
> belief.
Well, I can certainly see some limitations,
but they're not ones *you* can see, since
they have to do with you perceiving your
own limitations.
> > You're not qualified to
> > make your statement
>
> im not qualified to speak with authority
OK, now we're starting to get somewhere!
> > Your
> > wilful ignorance may allow you to make a
> > comfortable living
>
> and it does!
But it does not give you qualifications in
atmospheric science... or make the crap
you say true.
> > See the above link... it is most certainly Refrigeration,
> > with a capital 'R'.
>
> it is NOT what i asked you for!
I don't give a damn what you asked for...
it's what you got. Choke on it, for all I care...
we no longer trust your crap, anyway.
> > if you want to leave here owning
> > more than the shirt on your back!
>
> lol such as assinine statement! :-)
I've already proven that you can't
be trusted to post truth... you lie
about stuff that's too easy to go
back and verify. Disengenuous!
> > You discussed it because it was irrelevant?
> > No, you discussed it because I called you
> > a -----! Like a trout, taking the fly...
> > hook, line, and swivel!
>
> no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
Hook, line, and swivel! Just don't
throw me in the briar patch!
> >> "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
> >
> > Perfectly good replacement, when no low
> > ambient is coming. Order the part, replace
> > the part, pull a vacuum, open the valves...
> > fixed.
>
> lol your example is totally foolish!
Trust... we no longer trust you.
You lie too easily.
> > You're hiding behind another TLA. It's
> > a pattern for you. You think it shows
> > knowlege
>
> lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and
clearly
> stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of
cycle
> controller, _at all_. the process is completely different.
As you can see, I didn't bite for your trick
question. We no longer trust you, Nate...
your credibility is down the drain.
> >As I said before, when you allow as to how
> >you don't know atmospheric science, I'll
> >admit to not knowing HVAC.
> we arent discussing hvac.
So? Is cryo now refrigeration?
> >> and youre just as wrong back then! :-) you canNOT just bypass it.
> >
> > Well, are you lying now, or were you lying
> > nineteen lines above?
>
> ive explained it many times.
We no longer trust what you post...
you've been proven completely
full of ---- too many times.
>
> > You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> > controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> > pressure at the *outlet*.
>
> you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure.
And nothing happens *behind* it? Dumbass.
> >> youre WRONG -------. you have to regulate both ways.....or come up
with
> >> another PAINFULLY simple way of making the pressure regulate
itself.....
> >
> > Really, there's no need for the regulation...
> > you said so yourself, above. Refrigerant
> > only needs to be retained in the evaporator
> > during low ambient... this lowers the efficiency
> > of the evaporator during low outside temps.
>
> lol dude....do you even know the difference of the componentry?
Address what I said, or FOAD... whatever, I
no longer care. Lowest of the low.
> and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or the
> refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
No bypass.
> >> lol you fool, i was down in less than 10 minutes where your solution
> >> would
> >> have meant spoiled product because it wouldnt work.
> >
> > *** smoke...
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont understand how it all works, nate"
I no longer believe a thing you say. You might
as well be picking boogers with those fingers.
> > You didn't say Uncle.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
You still didn't say Uncle!
> >> ice machines are irrelevant as they have no need for either.
> >
> > All systems don't have the valve. Thanks
> > for admitting that.
>
> dude you really are a ------- fool. i NEVER said otherwise. this is
> -------- smoke and mirrors on your part.
I said:
Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
You said:
there is already a full valve system in place to do just that.
You imply that all refrigerant systems have
this valve... then you go on to state that
not all do. More prevarication, or stupidity.
> >> so if you know something about it, give me the settings on the FCC (CC
=
> >> cycle control, now google it and try to figure it out).
> >
> > We stopped playing that game.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i didnt even know the difference because i just dont know
> cryo, nate"
>
> yeah, no ----.
So is there an FCC in cryo, or not? More
complete -------- lies.
> > This is the third time you've attempted to hide
> > behind a three-letter acronym... this makes you
> > a jerk.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "please stop exposing my true ignorance, nate"
More jerk stuff... you *know* what
will happen, so you hide.
> >> BZZT! NOT what im looking for!
> >
> > Well, it's what I'm giving.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont know, nate"
Lies. Don't expect truth from this
person.
> > The history books will get it right,
> > eventually
>
> TRANSLATION --> "when we grow up im gonna beat you up".
When *you* grow up we'll have a discussion.
BTW, how many whoppers have we caught you on
this week? Seems like at least six or seven... let's count:
1.) I didn't ask about 'in a pinch'... lie.
2.) Cryo system has FCC... lie.
3.) Challenge has -30 ambient spec... lie.
4.) He told me first about optionality of HPC... lie.
5.) Claimed I used valves for regulation... lie.
6.) Claimed 2 valves and piece of pipe could
sub for three-port device... lie.
7.) Claimed 3-port device simplest HPC implementation...
lie.
8.) Claimed all refrigerant systems have retention valving...
lie.
9.) Claimed certification necessary to work on
cryo systems... lie.
10.) Claimed I never had a job servicing cryo systems...
lie.
11.) Claimed cryo not refrigeration... lie.
12.) Claimed helium supply and return not
'working pressures'... lie.
Well! As we can see, we got plenty of lies out
of old Nate this week. What can tomorrow only
bring, but more lies?
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1eYKe.200$k92.182@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >> and it doesnt change ----, liar. cryo is not refrigeration.
> >
> >
http://www.ineosfluor.com/Refrigerat.../Cryogenic.asp
>
> wtf? that paper is on cryogenic refrigeration. cryogenic refrigeration
is
> its own specialized segment. it is not refrigeration.
Everyone listen! Cryogenic refrigeration is not
refrigeration! English language changed! Film
at 11!
> >> lol. you cant because you know NOTHING of cryo. :-)
> >
> > More TLA's... they're not going to save you,
> > Nate.
>
> but you sure choked on them! why? because you are an ignorant fool.
> ignorant because you dont know refrigeration, and a fool because you would
> try to -------- someone who _does_ about your qualifications. youre
nothing
> stephen. nothing but a liberal and a liar (course, "liberal" would have
> covered both).
They still won't save you... you're still hiding
behind them. The same thing will happen again,
and you *know* it.
> > See? Bald-faced assertions, like you know
> > what you're talking about... when you haven't
> > the slightest clue.
>
> i know enough to know that NONE of it is proven. its all speculation and
> belief.
Well, I can certainly see some limitations,
but they're not ones *you* can see, since
they have to do with you perceiving your
own limitations.
> > You're not qualified to
> > make your statement
>
> im not qualified to speak with authority
OK, now we're starting to get somewhere!
> > Your
> > wilful ignorance may allow you to make a
> > comfortable living
>
> and it does!
But it does not give you qualifications in
atmospheric science... or make the crap
you say true.
> > See the above link... it is most certainly Refrigeration,
> > with a capital 'R'.
>
> it is NOT what i asked you for!
I don't give a damn what you asked for...
it's what you got. Choke on it, for all I care...
we no longer trust your crap, anyway.
> > if you want to leave here owning
> > more than the shirt on your back!
>
> lol such as assinine statement! :-)
I've already proven that you can't
be trusted to post truth... you lie
about stuff that's too easy to go
back and verify. Disengenuous!
> > You discussed it because it was irrelevant?
> > No, you discussed it because I called you
> > a -----! Like a trout, taking the fly...
> > hook, line, and swivel!
>
> no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
Hook, line, and swivel! Just don't
throw me in the briar patch!
> >> "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
> >
> > Perfectly good replacement, when no low
> > ambient is coming. Order the part, replace
> > the part, pull a vacuum, open the valves...
> > fixed.
>
> lol your example is totally foolish!
Trust... we no longer trust you.
You lie too easily.
> > You're hiding behind another TLA. It's
> > a pattern for you. You think it shows
> > knowlege
>
> lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and
clearly
> stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of
cycle
> controller, _at all_. the process is completely different.
As you can see, I didn't bite for your trick
question. We no longer trust you, Nate...
your credibility is down the drain.
> >As I said before, when you allow as to how
> >you don't know atmospheric science, I'll
> >admit to not knowing HVAC.
> we arent discussing hvac.
So? Is cryo now refrigeration?
> >> and youre just as wrong back then! :-) you canNOT just bypass it.
> >
> > Well, are you lying now, or were you lying
> > nineteen lines above?
>
> ive explained it many times.
We no longer trust what you post...
you've been proven completely
full of ---- too many times.
>
> > You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> > controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> > pressure at the *outlet*.
>
> you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure.
And nothing happens *behind* it? Dumbass.
> >> youre WRONG -------. you have to regulate both ways.....or come up
with
> >> another PAINFULLY simple way of making the pressure regulate
itself.....
> >
> > Really, there's no need for the regulation...
> > you said so yourself, above. Refrigerant
> > only needs to be retained in the evaporator
> > during low ambient... this lowers the efficiency
> > of the evaporator during low outside temps.
>
> lol dude....do you even know the difference of the componentry?
Address what I said, or FOAD... whatever, I
no longer care. Lowest of the low.
> and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or the
> refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
No bypass.
> >> lol you fool, i was down in less than 10 minutes where your solution
> >> would
> >> have meant spoiled product because it wouldnt work.
> >
> > *** smoke...
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont understand how it all works, nate"
I no longer believe a thing you say. You might
as well be picking boogers with those fingers.
> > You didn't say Uncle.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
You still didn't say Uncle!
> >> ice machines are irrelevant as they have no need for either.
> >
> > All systems don't have the valve. Thanks
> > for admitting that.
>
> dude you really are a ------- fool. i NEVER said otherwise. this is
> -------- smoke and mirrors on your part.
I said:
Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
You said:
there is already a full valve system in place to do just that.
You imply that all refrigerant systems have
this valve... then you go on to state that
not all do. More prevarication, or stupidity.
> >> so if you know something about it, give me the settings on the FCC (CC
=
> >> cycle control, now google it and try to figure it out).
> >
> > We stopped playing that game.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i didnt even know the difference because i just dont know
> cryo, nate"
>
> yeah, no ----.
So is there an FCC in cryo, or not? More
complete -------- lies.
> > This is the third time you've attempted to hide
> > behind a three-letter acronym... this makes you
> > a jerk.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "please stop exposing my true ignorance, nate"
More jerk stuff... you *know* what
will happen, so you hide.
> >> BZZT! NOT what im looking for!
> >
> > Well, it's what I'm giving.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont know, nate"
Lies. Don't expect truth from this
person.
> > The history books will get it right,
> > eventually
>
> TRANSLATION --> "when we grow up im gonna beat you up".
When *you* grow up we'll have a discussion.
BTW, how many whoppers have we caught you on
this week? Seems like at least six or seven... let's count:
1.) I didn't ask about 'in a pinch'... lie.
2.) Cryo system has FCC... lie.
3.) Challenge has -30 ambient spec... lie.
4.) He told me first about optionality of HPC... lie.
5.) Claimed I used valves for regulation... lie.
6.) Claimed 2 valves and piece of pipe could
sub for three-port device... lie.
7.) Claimed 3-port device simplest HPC implementation...
lie.
8.) Claimed all refrigerant systems have retention valving...
lie.
9.) Claimed certification necessary to work on
cryo systems... lie.
10.) Claimed I never had a job servicing cryo systems...
lie.
11.) Claimed cryo not refrigeration... lie.
12.) Claimed helium supply and return not
'working pressures'... lie.
Well! As we can see, we got plenty of lies out
of old Nate this week. What can tomorrow only
bring, but more lies?
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
#4368
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fomsl387mik7e@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1eYKe.200$k92.182@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >> and it doesnt change ----, liar. cryo is not refrigeration.
> >
> >
http://www.ineosfluor.com/Refrigerat.../Cryogenic.asp
>
> wtf? that paper is on cryogenic refrigeration. cryogenic refrigeration
is
> its own specialized segment. it is not refrigeration.
Everyone listen! Cryogenic refrigeration is not
refrigeration! English language changed! Film
at 11!
> >> lol. you cant because you know NOTHING of cryo. :-)
> >
> > More TLA's... they're not going to save you,
> > Nate.
>
> but you sure choked on them! why? because you are an ignorant fool.
> ignorant because you dont know refrigeration, and a fool because you would
> try to -------- someone who _does_ about your qualifications. youre
nothing
> stephen. nothing but a liberal and a liar (course, "liberal" would have
> covered both).
They still won't save you... you're still hiding
behind them. The same thing will happen again,
and you *know* it.
> > See? Bald-faced assertions, like you know
> > what you're talking about... when you haven't
> > the slightest clue.
>
> i know enough to know that NONE of it is proven. its all speculation and
> belief.
Well, I can certainly see some limitations,
but they're not ones *you* can see, since
they have to do with you perceiving your
own limitations.
> > You're not qualified to
> > make your statement
>
> im not qualified to speak with authority
OK, now we're starting to get somewhere!
> > Your
> > wilful ignorance may allow you to make a
> > comfortable living
>
> and it does!
But it does not give you qualifications in
atmospheric science... or make the crap
you say true.
> > See the above link... it is most certainly Refrigeration,
> > with a capital 'R'.
>
> it is NOT what i asked you for!
I don't give a damn what you asked for...
it's what you got. Choke on it, for all I care...
we no longer trust your crap, anyway.
> > if you want to leave here owning
> > more than the shirt on your back!
>
> lol such as assinine statement! :-)
I've already proven that you can't
be trusted to post truth... you lie
about stuff that's too easy to go
back and verify. Disengenuous!
> > You discussed it because it was irrelevant?
> > No, you discussed it because I called you
> > a -----! Like a trout, taking the fly...
> > hook, line, and swivel!
>
> no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
Hook, line, and swivel! Just don't
throw me in the briar patch!
> >> "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
> >
> > Perfectly good replacement, when no low
> > ambient is coming. Order the part, replace
> > the part, pull a vacuum, open the valves...
> > fixed.
>
> lol your example is totally foolish!
Trust... we no longer trust you.
You lie too easily.
> > You're hiding behind another TLA. It's
> > a pattern for you. You think it shows
> > knowlege
>
> lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and
clearly
> stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of
cycle
> controller, _at all_. the process is completely different.
As you can see, I didn't bite for your trick
question. We no longer trust you, Nate...
your credibility is down the drain.
> >As I said before, when you allow as to how
> >you don't know atmospheric science, I'll
> >admit to not knowing HVAC.
> we arent discussing hvac.
So? Is cryo now refrigeration?
> >> and youre just as wrong back then! :-) you canNOT just bypass it.
> >
> > Well, are you lying now, or were you lying
> > nineteen lines above?
>
> ive explained it many times.
We no longer trust what you post...
you've been proven completely
full of ---- too many times.
>
> > You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> > controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> > pressure at the *outlet*.
>
> you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure.
And nothing happens *behind* it? Dumbass.
> >> youre WRONG -------. you have to regulate both ways.....or come up
with
> >> another PAINFULLY simple way of making the pressure regulate
itself.....
> >
> > Really, there's no need for the regulation...
> > you said so yourself, above. Refrigerant
> > only needs to be retained in the evaporator
> > during low ambient... this lowers the efficiency
> > of the evaporator during low outside temps.
>
> lol dude....do you even know the difference of the componentry?
Address what I said, or FOAD... whatever, I
no longer care. Lowest of the low.
> and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or the
> refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
No bypass.
> >> lol you fool, i was down in less than 10 minutes where your solution
> >> would
> >> have meant spoiled product because it wouldnt work.
> >
> > *** smoke...
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont understand how it all works, nate"
I no longer believe a thing you say. You might
as well be picking boogers with those fingers.
> > You didn't say Uncle.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
You still didn't say Uncle!
> >> ice machines are irrelevant as they have no need for either.
> >
> > All systems don't have the valve. Thanks
> > for admitting that.
>
> dude you really are a ------- fool. i NEVER said otherwise. this is
> -------- smoke and mirrors on your part.
I said:
Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
You said:
there is already a full valve system in place to do just that.
You imply that all refrigerant systems have
this valve... then you go on to state that
not all do. More prevarication, or stupidity.
> >> so if you know something about it, give me the settings on the FCC (CC
=
> >> cycle control, now google it and try to figure it out).
> >
> > We stopped playing that game.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i didnt even know the difference because i just dont know
> cryo, nate"
>
> yeah, no ----.
So is there an FCC in cryo, or not? More
complete -------- lies.
> > This is the third time you've attempted to hide
> > behind a three-letter acronym... this makes you
> > a jerk.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "please stop exposing my true ignorance, nate"
More jerk stuff... you *know* what
will happen, so you hide.
> >> BZZT! NOT what im looking for!
> >
> > Well, it's what I'm giving.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont know, nate"
Lies. Don't expect truth from this
person.
> > The history books will get it right,
> > eventually
>
> TRANSLATION --> "when we grow up im gonna beat you up".
When *you* grow up we'll have a discussion.
BTW, how many whoppers have we caught you on
this week? Seems like at least six or seven... let's count:
1.) I didn't ask about 'in a pinch'... lie.
2.) Cryo system has FCC... lie.
3.) Challenge has -30 ambient spec... lie.
4.) He told me first about optionality of HPC... lie.
5.) Claimed I used valves for regulation... lie.
6.) Claimed 2 valves and piece of pipe could
sub for three-port device... lie.
7.) Claimed 3-port device simplest HPC implementation...
lie.
8.) Claimed all refrigerant systems have retention valving...
lie.
9.) Claimed certification necessary to work on
cryo systems... lie.
10.) Claimed I never had a job servicing cryo systems...
lie.
11.) Claimed cryo not refrigeration... lie.
12.) Claimed helium supply and return not
'working pressures'... lie.
Well! As we can see, we got plenty of lies out
of old Nate this week. What can tomorrow only
bring, but more lies?
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
#4369
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fomsl387mik7e@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1eYKe.200$k92.182@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >> and it doesnt change ----, liar. cryo is not refrigeration.
> >
> >
http://www.ineosfluor.com/Refrigerat.../Cryogenic.asp
>
> wtf? that paper is on cryogenic refrigeration. cryogenic refrigeration
is
> its own specialized segment. it is not refrigeration.
Everyone listen! Cryogenic refrigeration is not
refrigeration! English language changed! Film
at 11!
> >> lol. you cant because you know NOTHING of cryo. :-)
> >
> > More TLA's... they're not going to save you,
> > Nate.
>
> but you sure choked on them! why? because you are an ignorant fool.
> ignorant because you dont know refrigeration, and a fool because you would
> try to -------- someone who _does_ about your qualifications. youre
nothing
> stephen. nothing but a liberal and a liar (course, "liberal" would have
> covered both).
They still won't save you... you're still hiding
behind them. The same thing will happen again,
and you *know* it.
> > See? Bald-faced assertions, like you know
> > what you're talking about... when you haven't
> > the slightest clue.
>
> i know enough to know that NONE of it is proven. its all speculation and
> belief.
Well, I can certainly see some limitations,
but they're not ones *you* can see, since
they have to do with you perceiving your
own limitations.
> > You're not qualified to
> > make your statement
>
> im not qualified to speak with authority
OK, now we're starting to get somewhere!
> > Your
> > wilful ignorance may allow you to make a
> > comfortable living
>
> and it does!
But it does not give you qualifications in
atmospheric science... or make the crap
you say true.
> > See the above link... it is most certainly Refrigeration,
> > with a capital 'R'.
>
> it is NOT what i asked you for!
I don't give a damn what you asked for...
it's what you got. Choke on it, for all I care...
we no longer trust your crap, anyway.
> > if you want to leave here owning
> > more than the shirt on your back!
>
> lol such as assinine statement! :-)
I've already proven that you can't
be trusted to post truth... you lie
about stuff that's too easy to go
back and verify. Disengenuous!
> > You discussed it because it was irrelevant?
> > No, you discussed it because I called you
> > a -----! Like a trout, taking the fly...
> > hook, line, and swivel!
>
> no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
Hook, line, and swivel! Just don't
throw me in the briar patch!
> >> "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)
> >
> > Perfectly good replacement, when no low
> > ambient is coming. Order the part, replace
> > the part, pull a vacuum, open the valves...
> > fixed.
>
> lol your example is totally foolish!
Trust... we no longer trust you.
You lie too easily.
> > You're hiding behind another TLA. It's
> > a pattern for you. You think it shows
> > knowlege
>
> lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and
clearly
> stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of
cycle
> controller, _at all_. the process is completely different.
As you can see, I didn't bite for your trick
question. We no longer trust you, Nate...
your credibility is down the drain.
> >As I said before, when you allow as to how
> >you don't know atmospheric science, I'll
> >admit to not knowing HVAC.
> we arent discussing hvac.
So? Is cryo now refrigeration?
> >> and youre just as wrong back then! :-) you canNOT just bypass it.
> >
> > Well, are you lying now, or were you lying
> > nineteen lines above?
>
> ive explained it many times.
We no longer trust what you post...
you've been proven completely
full of ---- too many times.
>
> > You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> > controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> > pressure at the *outlet*.
>
> you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure.
And nothing happens *behind* it? Dumbass.
> >> youre WRONG -------. you have to regulate both ways.....or come up
with
> >> another PAINFULLY simple way of making the pressure regulate
itself.....
> >
> > Really, there's no need for the regulation...
> > you said so yourself, above. Refrigerant
> > only needs to be retained in the evaporator
> > during low ambient... this lowers the efficiency
> > of the evaporator during low outside temps.
>
> lol dude....do you even know the difference of the componentry?
Address what I said, or FOAD... whatever, I
no longer care. Lowest of the low.
> and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or the
> refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
No bypass.
> >> lol you fool, i was down in less than 10 minutes where your solution
> >> would
> >> have meant spoiled product because it wouldnt work.
> >
> > *** smoke...
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont understand how it all works, nate"
I no longer believe a thing you say. You might
as well be picking boogers with those fingers.
> > You didn't say Uncle.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
You still didn't say Uncle!
> >> ice machines are irrelevant as they have no need for either.
> >
> > All systems don't have the valve. Thanks
> > for admitting that.
>
> dude you really are a ------- fool. i NEVER said otherwise. this is
> -------- smoke and mirrors on your part.
I said:
Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
You said:
there is already a full valve system in place to do just that.
You imply that all refrigerant systems have
this valve... then you go on to state that
not all do. More prevarication, or stupidity.
> >> so if you know something about it, give me the settings on the FCC (CC
=
> >> cycle control, now google it and try to figure it out).
> >
> > We stopped playing that game.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i didnt even know the difference because i just dont know
> cryo, nate"
>
> yeah, no ----.
So is there an FCC in cryo, or not? More
complete -------- lies.
> > This is the third time you've attempted to hide
> > behind a three-letter acronym... this makes you
> > a jerk.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "please stop exposing my true ignorance, nate"
More jerk stuff... you *know* what
will happen, so you hide.
> >> BZZT! NOT what im looking for!
> >
> > Well, it's what I'm giving.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont know, nate"
Lies. Don't expect truth from this
person.
> > The history books will get it right,
> > eventually
>
> TRANSLATION --> "when we grow up im gonna beat you up".
When *you* grow up we'll have a discussion.
BTW, how many whoppers have we caught you on
this week? Seems like at least six or seven... let's count:
1.) I didn't ask about 'in a pinch'... lie.
2.) Cryo system has FCC... lie.
3.) Challenge has -30 ambient spec... lie.
4.) He told me first about optionality of HPC... lie.
5.) Claimed I used valves for regulation... lie.
6.) Claimed 2 valves and piece of pipe could
sub for three-port device... lie.
7.) Claimed 3-port device simplest HPC implementation...
lie.
8.) Claimed all refrigerant systems have retention valving...
lie.
9.) Claimed certification necessary to work on
cryo systems... lie.
10.) Claimed I never had a job servicing cryo systems...
lie.
11.) Claimed cryo not refrigeration... lie.
12.) Claimed helium supply and return not
'working pressures'... lie.
Well! As we can see, we got plenty of lies out
of old Nate this week. What can tomorrow only
bring, but more lies?
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
#4370
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 134a Refrigerant
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42FC4B63.BAAC3608@***.net...
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >
> > That doesn't mean that you can't give us a
> > simple explanation of what an arcsin does,
> > does it? Unless, of course, you don't have
> > a clue... such a simple function! Put in a
> > sin, get out an angle...
> >
> > Keep it up! Hearts and minds tumble when
> > you speak your trash. Ossification of the
> > cranium... leads to neo-conism. You're a
> > con-head!
> > __
> > Steve
> inverse sine
> ArcSin[z] = (-I) Log[I z + Sqrt[1 - z^2]]
> Now go back to sucking off the government, you free loading loser.
But do you *understand* it, Bill? BTW,
thanks for Iraq.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate