question on jeep dealer refusing service.
04-17-2004, 09:46 PM
#151
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Re: question on jeep dealer refusing service.
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>Don't view
>negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
>It's not.
Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
---
Bob
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>Don't view
>negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
>It's not.
Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
---
Bob
04-17-2004, 09:46 PM
#152
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Re: question on jeep dealer refusing service.
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>Don't view
>negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
>It's not.
Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
---
Bob
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>Don't view
>negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
>It's not.
Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
---
Bob
04-17-2004, 09:46 PM
#153
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Re: question on jeep dealer refusing service.
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>Don't view
>negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
>It's not.
Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
---
Bob
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>Don't view
>negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
>It's not.
Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
---
Bob
04-17-2004, 09:58 PM
#154
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Re: question on jeep dealer refusing service.
Well, I went bumper to bumper with what I wanted. Chewed the rag a
bit....took my time!!
I can't remember what movie it was in....but I would say my bit without a
question on the end of it or anything...then I'd just be quiet for LONG
silences that got uncomfortable for the salesperson.
Then he'd start chattering....this is where they can get in trouble!!
Not that I screwed them....but it's fun to do when you know they want your
money!!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081A5BB.9D3B25FA@***.net...
> It's commonly used sales tactic.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> cactuscowboy wrote:
> >
> > 5 hours is far too long for negotiating. In the vast majority of my
sales,
> > negotiating takes 10 minutes or less. That's how it should be.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dave Rose
> > Cactus Cowboy
> > Big Wonderful Wyoming
> > '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> > '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> > '98 XJ Sport
> > O|||||||O
bit....took my time!!
I can't remember what movie it was in....but I would say my bit without a
question on the end of it or anything...then I'd just be quiet for LONG
silences that got uncomfortable for the salesperson.
Then he'd start chattering....this is where they can get in trouble!!
Not that I screwed them....but it's fun to do when you know they want your
money!!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081A5BB.9D3B25FA@***.net...
> It's commonly used sales tactic.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> cactuscowboy wrote:
> >
> > 5 hours is far too long for negotiating. In the vast majority of my
sales,
> > negotiating takes 10 minutes or less. That's how it should be.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dave Rose
> > Cactus Cowboy
> > Big Wonderful Wyoming
> > '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> > '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> > '98 XJ Sport
> > O|||||||O
04-17-2004, 09:58 PM
#155
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Re: question on jeep dealer refusing service.
Well, I went bumper to bumper with what I wanted. Chewed the rag a
bit....took my time!!
I can't remember what movie it was in....but I would say my bit without a
question on the end of it or anything...then I'd just be quiet for LONG
silences that got uncomfortable for the salesperson.
Then he'd start chattering....this is where they can get in trouble!!
Not that I screwed them....but it's fun to do when you know they want your
money!!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081A5BB.9D3B25FA@***.net...
> It's commonly used sales tactic.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> cactuscowboy wrote:
> >
> > 5 hours is far too long for negotiating. In the vast majority of my
sales,
> > negotiating takes 10 minutes or less. That's how it should be.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dave Rose
> > Cactus Cowboy
> > Big Wonderful Wyoming
> > '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> > '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> > '98 XJ Sport
> > O|||||||O
bit....took my time!!
I can't remember what movie it was in....but I would say my bit without a
question on the end of it or anything...then I'd just be quiet for LONG
silences that got uncomfortable for the salesperson.
Then he'd start chattering....this is where they can get in trouble!!
Not that I screwed them....but it's fun to do when you know they want your
money!!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081A5BB.9D3B25FA@***.net...
> It's commonly used sales tactic.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> cactuscowboy wrote:
> >
> > 5 hours is far too long for negotiating. In the vast majority of my
sales,
> > negotiating takes 10 minutes or less. That's how it should be.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dave Rose
> > Cactus Cowboy
> > Big Wonderful Wyoming
> > '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> > '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> > '98 XJ Sport
> > O|||||||O
04-17-2004, 09:58 PM
#156
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Re: question on jeep dealer refusing service.
Well, I went bumper to bumper with what I wanted. Chewed the rag a
bit....took my time!!
I can't remember what movie it was in....but I would say my bit without a
question on the end of it or anything...then I'd just be quiet for LONG
silences that got uncomfortable for the salesperson.
Then he'd start chattering....this is where they can get in trouble!!
Not that I screwed them....but it's fun to do when you know they want your
money!!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081A5BB.9D3B25FA@***.net...
> It's commonly used sales tactic.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> cactuscowboy wrote:
> >
> > 5 hours is far too long for negotiating. In the vast majority of my
sales,
> > negotiating takes 10 minutes or less. That's how it should be.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dave Rose
> > Cactus Cowboy
> > Big Wonderful Wyoming
> > '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> > '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> > '98 XJ Sport
> > O|||||||O
bit....took my time!!
I can't remember what movie it was in....but I would say my bit without a
question on the end of it or anything...then I'd just be quiet for LONG
silences that got uncomfortable for the salesperson.
Then he'd start chattering....this is where they can get in trouble!!
Not that I screwed them....but it's fun to do when you know they want your
money!!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081A5BB.9D3B25FA@***.net...
> It's commonly used sales tactic.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> cactuscowboy wrote:
> >
> > 5 hours is far too long for negotiating. In the vast majority of my
sales,
> > negotiating takes 10 minutes or less. That's how it should be.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dave Rose
> > Cactus Cowboy
> > Big Wonderful Wyoming
> > '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> > '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> > '98 XJ Sport
> > O|||||||O
04-17-2004, 09:58 PM
#157
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Re: question on jeep dealer refusing service.
Well, I went bumper to bumper with what I wanted. Chewed the rag a
bit....took my time!!
I can't remember what movie it was in....but I would say my bit without a
question on the end of it or anything...then I'd just be quiet for LONG
silences that got uncomfortable for the salesperson.
Then he'd start chattering....this is where they can get in trouble!!
Not that I screwed them....but it's fun to do when you know they want your
money!!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081A5BB.9D3B25FA@***.net...
> It's commonly used sales tactic.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> cactuscowboy wrote:
> >
> > 5 hours is far too long for negotiating. In the vast majority of my
sales,
> > negotiating takes 10 minutes or less. That's how it should be.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dave Rose
> > Cactus Cowboy
> > Big Wonderful Wyoming
> > '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> > '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> > '98 XJ Sport
> > O|||||||O
bit....took my time!!
I can't remember what movie it was in....but I would say my bit without a
question on the end of it or anything...then I'd just be quiet for LONG
silences that got uncomfortable for the salesperson.
Then he'd start chattering....this is where they can get in trouble!!
Not that I screwed them....but it's fun to do when you know they want your
money!!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081A5BB.9D3B25FA@***.net...
> It's commonly used sales tactic.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> cactuscowboy wrote:
> >
> > 5 hours is far too long for negotiating. In the vast majority of my
sales,
> > negotiating takes 10 minutes or less. That's how it should be.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dave Rose
> > Cactus Cowboy
> > Big Wonderful Wyoming
> > '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> > '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> > '98 XJ Sport
> > O|||||||O
04-17-2004, 11:24 PM
#158
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Re: question on jeep dealer refusing service.
Bob,
You're entitled to your opinion of course. However, the vast majority of
buyers expect to negotiate their vehicle purchase and have no problem doing
so. If you find it so difficult, you should either buy a Saturn or merely
wait for advertised specials.
My job requires that I negotiate price with customers. I'm a skilled
negotiator and I enjoy it. Most of my customers enjoy negotiating as well,
and readily accept that it's part of the traditional car buying process. If
they're clearly uncomfortable, I'll do my best to put them at ease and make
it a fast and painless process. The vast majority of my customers HAVE FUN
buying a vehicle from me and my store. Negotiating is fun when you're
dealing with a professional like me and you have the right attitude.
If you've had a prior bad experience with a car dealer or car salesman,
don't condemn the entire auto industry or the art of negotiation because of
it. Don't go into a car store with a confrontational and angry attitude.
If you do, you're sure to experience another "horrible way to spend time".
Before I got into car sales, I bought numerous vehicles from car dealers. I
never had a bad experience. Why? My positive attitude as a buyer.
Think about it.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:men380ht4qjkcrivmhjtub92cf12ue049h@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
> >Don't view
> >negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
> >It's not.
>
> Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
>
> ---
> Bob
You're entitled to your opinion of course. However, the vast majority of
buyers expect to negotiate their vehicle purchase and have no problem doing
so. If you find it so difficult, you should either buy a Saturn or merely
wait for advertised specials.
My job requires that I negotiate price with customers. I'm a skilled
negotiator and I enjoy it. Most of my customers enjoy negotiating as well,
and readily accept that it's part of the traditional car buying process. If
they're clearly uncomfortable, I'll do my best to put them at ease and make
it a fast and painless process. The vast majority of my customers HAVE FUN
buying a vehicle from me and my store. Negotiating is fun when you're
dealing with a professional like me and you have the right attitude.
If you've had a prior bad experience with a car dealer or car salesman,
don't condemn the entire auto industry or the art of negotiation because of
it. Don't go into a car store with a confrontational and angry attitude.
If you do, you're sure to experience another "horrible way to spend time".
Before I got into car sales, I bought numerous vehicles from car dealers. I
never had a bad experience. Why? My positive attitude as a buyer.
Think about it.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:men380ht4qjkcrivmhjtub92cf12ue049h@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
> >Don't view
> >negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
> >It's not.
>
> Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
>
> ---
> Bob
04-17-2004, 11:24 PM
#159
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Re: question on jeep dealer refusing service.
Bob,
You're entitled to your opinion of course. However, the vast majority of
buyers expect to negotiate their vehicle purchase and have no problem doing
so. If you find it so difficult, you should either buy a Saturn or merely
wait for advertised specials.
My job requires that I negotiate price with customers. I'm a skilled
negotiator and I enjoy it. Most of my customers enjoy negotiating as well,
and readily accept that it's part of the traditional car buying process. If
they're clearly uncomfortable, I'll do my best to put them at ease and make
it a fast and painless process. The vast majority of my customers HAVE FUN
buying a vehicle from me and my store. Negotiating is fun when you're
dealing with a professional like me and you have the right attitude.
If you've had a prior bad experience with a car dealer or car salesman,
don't condemn the entire auto industry or the art of negotiation because of
it. Don't go into a car store with a confrontational and angry attitude.
If you do, you're sure to experience another "horrible way to spend time".
Before I got into car sales, I bought numerous vehicles from car dealers. I
never had a bad experience. Why? My positive attitude as a buyer.
Think about it.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:men380ht4qjkcrivmhjtub92cf12ue049h@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
> >Don't view
> >negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
> >It's not.
>
> Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
>
> ---
> Bob
You're entitled to your opinion of course. However, the vast majority of
buyers expect to negotiate their vehicle purchase and have no problem doing
so. If you find it so difficult, you should either buy a Saturn or merely
wait for advertised specials.
My job requires that I negotiate price with customers. I'm a skilled
negotiator and I enjoy it. Most of my customers enjoy negotiating as well,
and readily accept that it's part of the traditional car buying process. If
they're clearly uncomfortable, I'll do my best to put them at ease and make
it a fast and painless process. The vast majority of my customers HAVE FUN
buying a vehicle from me and my store. Negotiating is fun when you're
dealing with a professional like me and you have the right attitude.
If you've had a prior bad experience with a car dealer or car salesman,
don't condemn the entire auto industry or the art of negotiation because of
it. Don't go into a car store with a confrontational and angry attitude.
If you do, you're sure to experience another "horrible way to spend time".
Before I got into car sales, I bought numerous vehicles from car dealers. I
never had a bad experience. Why? My positive attitude as a buyer.
Think about it.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:men380ht4qjkcrivmhjtub92cf12ue049h@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
> >Don't view
> >negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
> >It's not.
>
> Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
>
> ---
> Bob
04-17-2004, 11:24 PM
#160
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Re: question on jeep dealer refusing service.
Bob,
You're entitled to your opinion of course. However, the vast majority of
buyers expect to negotiate their vehicle purchase and have no problem doing
so. If you find it so difficult, you should either buy a Saturn or merely
wait for advertised specials.
My job requires that I negotiate price with customers. I'm a skilled
negotiator and I enjoy it. Most of my customers enjoy negotiating as well,
and readily accept that it's part of the traditional car buying process. If
they're clearly uncomfortable, I'll do my best to put them at ease and make
it a fast and painless process. The vast majority of my customers HAVE FUN
buying a vehicle from me and my store. Negotiating is fun when you're
dealing with a professional like me and you have the right attitude.
If you've had a prior bad experience with a car dealer or car salesman,
don't condemn the entire auto industry or the art of negotiation because of
it. Don't go into a car store with a confrontational and angry attitude.
If you do, you're sure to experience another "horrible way to spend time".
Before I got into car sales, I bought numerous vehicles from car dealers. I
never had a bad experience. Why? My positive attitude as a buyer.
Think about it.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:men380ht4qjkcrivmhjtub92cf12ue049h@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
> >Don't view
> >negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
> >It's not.
>
> Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
>
> ---
> Bob
You're entitled to your opinion of course. However, the vast majority of
buyers expect to negotiate their vehicle purchase and have no problem doing
so. If you find it so difficult, you should either buy a Saturn or merely
wait for advertised specials.
My job requires that I negotiate price with customers. I'm a skilled
negotiator and I enjoy it. Most of my customers enjoy negotiating as well,
and readily accept that it's part of the traditional car buying process. If
they're clearly uncomfortable, I'll do my best to put them at ease and make
it a fast and painless process. The vast majority of my customers HAVE FUN
buying a vehicle from me and my store. Negotiating is fun when you're
dealing with a professional like me and you have the right attitude.
If you've had a prior bad experience with a car dealer or car salesman,
don't condemn the entire auto industry or the art of negotiation because of
it. Don't go into a car store with a confrontational and angry attitude.
If you do, you're sure to experience another "horrible way to spend time".
Before I got into car sales, I bought numerous vehicles from car dealers. I
never had a bad experience. Why? My positive attitude as a buyer.
Think about it.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:men380ht4qjkcrivmhjtub92cf12ue049h@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
> <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
> >Don't view
> >negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
> >It's not.
>
> Yes, it is. And it is a horrible way to spend time.
>
> ---
> Bob