Close Call!
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Re: Close Call!
Shifting into neutral is against the law at here in Kalifornia.
Even depressing the clutch is a panic symptom that'll quickly lead to
being totaling out of control!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Spdloader wrote:
>
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn. Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
Even depressing the clutch is a panic symptom that'll quickly lead to
being totaling out of control!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Spdloader wrote:
>
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn. Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Close Call!
Shifting into neutral is against the law at here in Kalifornia.
Even depressing the clutch is a panic symptom that'll quickly lead to
being totaling out of control!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Spdloader wrote:
>
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn. Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
Even depressing the clutch is a panic symptom that'll quickly lead to
being totaling out of control!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Spdloader wrote:
>
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn. Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Close Call!
Shifting into neutral is against the law at here in Kalifornia.
Even depressing the clutch is a panic symptom that'll quickly lead to
being totaling out of control!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Spdloader wrote:
>
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn. Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
Even depressing the clutch is a panic symptom that'll quickly lead to
being totaling out of control!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Spdloader wrote:
>
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn. Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
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Re: Close Call!
Hi Earle,
Yup, and I do just that in sand dunning, speed up the engine to
regain control.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm, if this is the case, then *theoretically* you can regain control by
> opening the throttle and speeding up the engine some. I have a physics
> degree, and I have been employed as an engineer and as a mechanic. I can
> assure you, that *theoretically* this makes sense. I am not going to try it
> any time soon though.
>
> Earle
Yup, and I do just that in sand dunning, speed up the engine to
regain control.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm, if this is the case, then *theoretically* you can regain control by
> opening the throttle and speeding up the engine some. I have a physics
> degree, and I have been employed as an engineer and as a mechanic. I can
> assure you, that *theoretically* this makes sense. I am not going to try it
> any time soon though.
>
> Earle
Guest
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Re: Close Call!
Hi Earle,
Yup, and I do just that in sand dunning, speed up the engine to
regain control.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm, if this is the case, then *theoretically* you can regain control by
> opening the throttle and speeding up the engine some. I have a physics
> degree, and I have been employed as an engineer and as a mechanic. I can
> assure you, that *theoretically* this makes sense. I am not going to try it
> any time soon though.
>
> Earle
Yup, and I do just that in sand dunning, speed up the engine to
regain control.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm, if this is the case, then *theoretically* you can regain control by
> opening the throttle and speeding up the engine some. I have a physics
> degree, and I have been employed as an engineer and as a mechanic. I can
> assure you, that *theoretically* this makes sense. I am not going to try it
> any time soon though.
>
> Earle
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Close Call!
Hi Earle,
Yup, and I do just that in sand dunning, speed up the engine to
regain control.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm, if this is the case, then *theoretically* you can regain control by
> opening the throttle and speeding up the engine some. I have a physics
> degree, and I have been employed as an engineer and as a mechanic. I can
> assure you, that *theoretically* this makes sense. I am not going to try it
> any time soon though.
>
> Earle
Yup, and I do just that in sand dunning, speed up the engine to
regain control.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm, if this is the case, then *theoretically* you can regain control by
> opening the throttle and speeding up the engine some. I have a physics
> degree, and I have been employed as an engineer and as a mechanic. I can
> assure you, that *theoretically* this makes sense. I am not going to try it
> any time soon though.
>
> Earle
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Close Call!
Hi Earle,
Yup, and I do just that in sand dunning, speed up the engine to
regain control.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm, if this is the case, then *theoretically* you can regain control by
> opening the throttle and speeding up the engine some. I have a physics
> degree, and I have been employed as an engineer and as a mechanic. I can
> assure you, that *theoretically* this makes sense. I am not going to try it
> any time soon though.
>
> Earle
Yup, and I do just that in sand dunning, speed up the engine to
regain control.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm, if this is the case, then *theoretically* you can regain control by
> opening the throttle and speeding up the engine some. I have a physics
> degree, and I have been employed as an engineer and as a mechanic. I can
> assure you, that *theoretically* this makes sense. I am not going to try it
> any time soon though.
>
> Earle
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Re: Close Call!
Was that in Georgia? ;^)
(Trucker I used to know called neutral downhill with a load, "Georgia
overdrive".)
Earle
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LBHRf.64978$%84.18083@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law
enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as
you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn.
Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44174066.7DB08BE4@sympatico.ca...
> > That happens to us all the time coming down sand pit and ravine walls.
> > We do these year round.
> >
> > Contrary to what might seem right, you have to give it some gas to keep
> > control. If you drop back on the gas, the tires can/will stall and
> > break free and it's the same as if you had the brake pedal mashed.
> >
> > If you use the gas and gears right, auto or stick, you can keep the
> > wheels turning enough to hold steering control. That is why I like 3rd
> > low. It has braking power without too much grab to stall the wheels and
> > start a slide. If I am in 2nd, I can stall the wheels if I don't keep
> > the rpm high, 1st is useless for descending.
> >
> > Trying to go too slow can get you into trouble.
> >
> > Going into neutral can get you killed besides being illegal in every
> > state or country I have checked in. In neutral, you are 'out' of
> > control.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Vince Hodgson wrote:
> >>
> >> 0K, here's the thing....
> >> doesn't matter what you do, if you are starting to slide and its in
gear
> >> and
> >> your foots off the brake, your tires are still turning, just not
turning
> >> fast enough.
> >>
> >> therefore, you might as well be slamming on the binders, cause your not
> >> in
> >> control anymore.
> >>
> >> best bet in any situation it to slap it into neutral and use the
brakes.
> >> that way the tires keep turning at the right speed and you can start to
> >> regain control with the brake peddle.
> >>
> >> just my 0.2 cents. had an ice situation happen in 4wd and did 360's
down
> >> a
> >> hill (no brakes) and I definitely know if I kicked it into neutral or
> >> pushed in the clutch, i could have regained control again.
> >> <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> >> news:1142369786.243719.87620@z34g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > An automatic has plenty of compression braking if in 1st gear and low
> >> > range 4WD. I realize that a manual has more braking ability, but an
> >> > automatic still has a LOT.
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >> > > You can count on one brake locking up before the others, making
> >> > > control
> >> > > on a slippery surface more, um, challenging. The OP was doubly
> >> > > hampered
> >> > > by his auto tranny that wouldn't hold him back the way a standard
> >> > > would
> >> > > have.
> >> > >
> >> >
>
>
(Trucker I used to know called neutral downhill with a load, "Georgia
overdrive".)
Earle
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LBHRf.64978$%84.18083@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law
enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as
you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn.
Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44174066.7DB08BE4@sympatico.ca...
> > That happens to us all the time coming down sand pit and ravine walls.
> > We do these year round.
> >
> > Contrary to what might seem right, you have to give it some gas to keep
> > control. If you drop back on the gas, the tires can/will stall and
> > break free and it's the same as if you had the brake pedal mashed.
> >
> > If you use the gas and gears right, auto or stick, you can keep the
> > wheels turning enough to hold steering control. That is why I like 3rd
> > low. It has braking power without too much grab to stall the wheels and
> > start a slide. If I am in 2nd, I can stall the wheels if I don't keep
> > the rpm high, 1st is useless for descending.
> >
> > Trying to go too slow can get you into trouble.
> >
> > Going into neutral can get you killed besides being illegal in every
> > state or country I have checked in. In neutral, you are 'out' of
> > control.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Vince Hodgson wrote:
> >>
> >> 0K, here's the thing....
> >> doesn't matter what you do, if you are starting to slide and its in
gear
> >> and
> >> your foots off the brake, your tires are still turning, just not
turning
> >> fast enough.
> >>
> >> therefore, you might as well be slamming on the binders, cause your not
> >> in
> >> control anymore.
> >>
> >> best bet in any situation it to slap it into neutral and use the
brakes.
> >> that way the tires keep turning at the right speed and you can start to
> >> regain control with the brake peddle.
> >>
> >> just my 0.2 cents. had an ice situation happen in 4wd and did 360's
down
> >> a
> >> hill (no brakes) and I definitely know if I kicked it into neutral or
> >> pushed in the clutch, i could have regained control again.
> >> <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> >> news:1142369786.243719.87620@z34g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > An automatic has plenty of compression braking if in 1st gear and low
> >> > range 4WD. I realize that a manual has more braking ability, but an
> >> > automatic still has a LOT.
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >> > > You can count on one brake locking up before the others, making
> >> > > control
> >> > > on a slippery surface more, um, challenging. The OP was doubly
> >> > > hampered
> >> > > by his auto tranny that wouldn't hold him back the way a standard
> >> > > would
> >> > > have.
> >> > >
> >> >
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Close Call!
Was that in Georgia? ;^)
(Trucker I used to know called neutral downhill with a load, "Georgia
overdrive".)
Earle
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LBHRf.64978$%84.18083@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law
enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as
you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn.
Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44174066.7DB08BE4@sympatico.ca...
> > That happens to us all the time coming down sand pit and ravine walls.
> > We do these year round.
> >
> > Contrary to what might seem right, you have to give it some gas to keep
> > control. If you drop back on the gas, the tires can/will stall and
> > break free and it's the same as if you had the brake pedal mashed.
> >
> > If you use the gas and gears right, auto or stick, you can keep the
> > wheels turning enough to hold steering control. That is why I like 3rd
> > low. It has braking power without too much grab to stall the wheels and
> > start a slide. If I am in 2nd, I can stall the wheels if I don't keep
> > the rpm high, 1st is useless for descending.
> >
> > Trying to go too slow can get you into trouble.
> >
> > Going into neutral can get you killed besides being illegal in every
> > state or country I have checked in. In neutral, you are 'out' of
> > control.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Vince Hodgson wrote:
> >>
> >> 0K, here's the thing....
> >> doesn't matter what you do, if you are starting to slide and its in
gear
> >> and
> >> your foots off the brake, your tires are still turning, just not
turning
> >> fast enough.
> >>
> >> therefore, you might as well be slamming on the binders, cause your not
> >> in
> >> control anymore.
> >>
> >> best bet in any situation it to slap it into neutral and use the
brakes.
> >> that way the tires keep turning at the right speed and you can start to
> >> regain control with the brake peddle.
> >>
> >> just my 0.2 cents. had an ice situation happen in 4wd and did 360's
down
> >> a
> >> hill (no brakes) and I definitely know if I kicked it into neutral or
> >> pushed in the clutch, i could have regained control again.
> >> <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> >> news:1142369786.243719.87620@z34g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > An automatic has plenty of compression braking if in 1st gear and low
> >> > range 4WD. I realize that a manual has more braking ability, but an
> >> > automatic still has a LOT.
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >> > > You can count on one brake locking up before the others, making
> >> > > control
> >> > > on a slippery surface more, um, challenging. The OP was doubly
> >> > > hampered
> >> > > by his auto tranny that wouldn't hold him back the way a standard
> >> > > would
> >> > > have.
> >> > >
> >> >
>
>
(Trucker I used to know called neutral downhill with a load, "Georgia
overdrive".)
Earle
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LBHRf.64978$%84.18083@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law
enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as
you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn.
Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44174066.7DB08BE4@sympatico.ca...
> > That happens to us all the time coming down sand pit and ravine walls.
> > We do these year round.
> >
> > Contrary to what might seem right, you have to give it some gas to keep
> > control. If you drop back on the gas, the tires can/will stall and
> > break free and it's the same as if you had the brake pedal mashed.
> >
> > If you use the gas and gears right, auto or stick, you can keep the
> > wheels turning enough to hold steering control. That is why I like 3rd
> > low. It has braking power without too much grab to stall the wheels and
> > start a slide. If I am in 2nd, I can stall the wheels if I don't keep
> > the rpm high, 1st is useless for descending.
> >
> > Trying to go too slow can get you into trouble.
> >
> > Going into neutral can get you killed besides being illegal in every
> > state or country I have checked in. In neutral, you are 'out' of
> > control.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Vince Hodgson wrote:
> >>
> >> 0K, here's the thing....
> >> doesn't matter what you do, if you are starting to slide and its in
gear
> >> and
> >> your foots off the brake, your tires are still turning, just not
turning
> >> fast enough.
> >>
> >> therefore, you might as well be slamming on the binders, cause your not
> >> in
> >> control anymore.
> >>
> >> best bet in any situation it to slap it into neutral and use the
brakes.
> >> that way the tires keep turning at the right speed and you can start to
> >> regain control with the brake peddle.
> >>
> >> just my 0.2 cents. had an ice situation happen in 4wd and did 360's
down
> >> a
> >> hill (no brakes) and I definitely know if I kicked it into neutral or
> >> pushed in the clutch, i could have regained control again.
> >> <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> >> news:1142369786.243719.87620@z34g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > An automatic has plenty of compression braking if in 1st gear and low
> >> > range 4WD. I realize that a manual has more braking ability, but an
> >> > automatic still has a LOT.
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >> > > You can count on one brake locking up before the others, making
> >> > > control
> >> > > on a slippery surface more, um, challenging. The OP was doubly
> >> > > hampered
> >> > > by his auto tranny that wouldn't hold him back the way a standard
> >> > > would
> >> > > have.
> >> > >
> >> >
>
>
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Re: Close Call!
Was that in Georgia? ;^)
(Trucker I used to know called neutral downhill with a load, "Georgia
overdrive".)
Earle
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LBHRf.64978$%84.18083@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law
enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as
you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn.
Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44174066.7DB08BE4@sympatico.ca...
> > That happens to us all the time coming down sand pit and ravine walls.
> > We do these year round.
> >
> > Contrary to what might seem right, you have to give it some gas to keep
> > control. If you drop back on the gas, the tires can/will stall and
> > break free and it's the same as if you had the brake pedal mashed.
> >
> > If you use the gas and gears right, auto or stick, you can keep the
> > wheels turning enough to hold steering control. That is why I like 3rd
> > low. It has braking power without too much grab to stall the wheels and
> > start a slide. If I am in 2nd, I can stall the wheels if I don't keep
> > the rpm high, 1st is useless for descending.
> >
> > Trying to go too slow can get you into trouble.
> >
> > Going into neutral can get you killed besides being illegal in every
> > state or country I have checked in. In neutral, you are 'out' of
> > control.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Vince Hodgson wrote:
> >>
> >> 0K, here's the thing....
> >> doesn't matter what you do, if you are starting to slide and its in
gear
> >> and
> >> your foots off the brake, your tires are still turning, just not
turning
> >> fast enough.
> >>
> >> therefore, you might as well be slamming on the binders, cause your not
> >> in
> >> control anymore.
> >>
> >> best bet in any situation it to slap it into neutral and use the
brakes.
> >> that way the tires keep turning at the right speed and you can start to
> >> regain control with the brake peddle.
> >>
> >> just my 0.2 cents. had an ice situation happen in 4wd and did 360's
down
> >> a
> >> hill (no brakes) and I definitely know if I kicked it into neutral or
> >> pushed in the clutch, i could have regained control again.
> >> <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> >> news:1142369786.243719.87620@z34g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > An automatic has plenty of compression braking if in 1st gear and low
> >> > range 4WD. I realize that a manual has more braking ability, but an
> >> > automatic still has a LOT.
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >> > > You can count on one brake locking up before the others, making
> >> > > control
> >> > > on a slippery surface more, um, challenging. The OP was doubly
> >> > > hampered
> >> > > by his auto tranny that wouldn't hold him back the way a standard
> >> > > would
> >> > > have.
> >> > >
> >> >
>
>
(Trucker I used to know called neutral downhill with a load, "Georgia
overdrive".)
Earle
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LBHRf.64978$%84.18083@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> I have saved myself from accidents more times than I can count by shifting
> to neutral, from an automatic or standard transmission.
>
> I learned this driving technique when I was trained to be a law
enforcement
> officer twenty years ago, by people trained and qualified to do so, not by
> someone that thinks what works for him in his Jeep is best for everyone.
>
> Shifting to neutral does not automatically make you "out of control" as
you
> put it, but, helps regain control of the vehicle.
>
> Accelerating to regain control is not the correct answer if you are trying
> to STOP the vehicle. You're just making things worse.
>
> Try it next time you are on ice or a slick road and pulling up to an
> intersection, or coming up on a situation where you must stop or turn.
Shift
> into neutral and see for yourself under which circumstances you maintain
> better control of your vehicle.
>
> Spdloader
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44174066.7DB08BE4@sympatico.ca...
> > That happens to us all the time coming down sand pit and ravine walls.
> > We do these year round.
> >
> > Contrary to what might seem right, you have to give it some gas to keep
> > control. If you drop back on the gas, the tires can/will stall and
> > break free and it's the same as if you had the brake pedal mashed.
> >
> > If you use the gas and gears right, auto or stick, you can keep the
> > wheels turning enough to hold steering control. That is why I like 3rd
> > low. It has braking power without too much grab to stall the wheels and
> > start a slide. If I am in 2nd, I can stall the wheels if I don't keep
> > the rpm high, 1st is useless for descending.
> >
> > Trying to go too slow can get you into trouble.
> >
> > Going into neutral can get you killed besides being illegal in every
> > state or country I have checked in. In neutral, you are 'out' of
> > control.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Vince Hodgson wrote:
> >>
> >> 0K, here's the thing....
> >> doesn't matter what you do, if you are starting to slide and its in
gear
> >> and
> >> your foots off the brake, your tires are still turning, just not
turning
> >> fast enough.
> >>
> >> therefore, you might as well be slamming on the binders, cause your not
> >> in
> >> control anymore.
> >>
> >> best bet in any situation it to slap it into neutral and use the
brakes.
> >> that way the tires keep turning at the right speed and you can start to
> >> regain control with the brake peddle.
> >>
> >> just my 0.2 cents. had an ice situation happen in 4wd and did 360's
down
> >> a
> >> hill (no brakes) and I definitely know if I kicked it into neutral or
> >> pushed in the clutch, i could have regained control again.
> >> <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> >> news:1142369786.243719.87620@z34g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > An automatic has plenty of compression braking if in 1st gear and low
> >> > range 4WD. I realize that a manual has more braking ability, but an
> >> > automatic still has a LOT.
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >> > > You can count on one brake locking up before the others, making
> >> > > control
> >> > > on a slippery surface more, um, challenging. The OP was doubly
> >> > > hampered
> >> > > by his auto tranny that wouldn't hold him back the way a standard
> >> > > would
> >> > > have.
> >> > >
> >> >
>
>
