"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:HvKdnXu5yun5A47ZRVn-gw@comcast.com...
: Stimpy proclaimed:
:
: > OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
play in
: > the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
: > times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I
decided to
: > turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from
that
: > point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding
as
: > soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it
in a
: > small ditch to stop.
: > I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
: > ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
back on
: > the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
: > road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice.
I
: > couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
possible
: > using the hand brake and the compression.
: > After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
shinny
: > new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
embarrassed,
: > me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except
my
: > ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way
home on
: > dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
: >
: > OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
: > experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
have
: > the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
: > right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
FullTime
: > before trying to get it in 4LO.
:
: Rule Number One: Four wheel drive is not four wheel stop.
:
: And it cannot make up for poor choice of tire. Or lack of driver
: experience.
:
: With few exceptions, NEVER try to use 4 wheel low on ice and snow. I
: honestly can't think of any exceptions unless you really need the extra
: pulling power and are using chains on all four wheels. In general, the
: highest gear that keeps your vehicle moving is the best gear on slippery.
:
: Downhill NEVER downshift. Pretend there is an egg between your foot and
: the brake pedal. Use the steering wheel with extreme caution. Keep
: the wheels turning at all times, particularly if you are trying to turn.
: That means to avoid a sliding wheel at all costs.


add to that always pump your brakes instead of using steady pressure.

 

"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:HvKdnXu5yun5A47ZRVn-gw@comcast.com...
: Stimpy proclaimed:
:
: > OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
play in
: > the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
: > times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I
decided to
: > turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from
that
: > point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding
as
: > soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it
in a
: > small ditch to stop.
: > I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
: > ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
back on
: > the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
: > road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice.
I
: > couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
possible
: > using the hand brake and the compression.
: > After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
shinny
: > new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
embarrassed,
: > me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except
my
: > ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way
home on
: > dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
: >
: > OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
: > experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
have
: > the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
: > right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
FullTime
: > before trying to get it in 4LO.
:
: Rule Number One: Four wheel drive is not four wheel stop.
:
: And it cannot make up for poor choice of tire. Or lack of driver
: experience.
:
: With few exceptions, NEVER try to use 4 wheel low on ice and snow. I
: honestly can't think of any exceptions unless you really need the extra
: pulling power and are using chains on all four wheels. In general, the
: highest gear that keeps your vehicle moving is the best gear on slippery.
:
: Downhill NEVER downshift. Pretend there is an egg between your foot and
: the brake pedal. Use the steering wheel with extreme caution. Keep
: the wheels turning at all times, particularly if you are trying to turn.
: That means to avoid a sliding wheel at all costs.


add to that always pump your brakes instead of using steady pressure.

 

"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:HvKdnXu5yun5A47ZRVn-gw@comcast.com...
: Stimpy proclaimed:
:
: > OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
play in
: > the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
: > times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I
decided to
: > turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from
that
: > point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding
as
: > soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it
in a
: > small ditch to stop.
: > I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
: > ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
back on
: > the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
: > road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice.
I
: > couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
possible
: > using the hand brake and the compression.
: > After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
shinny
: > new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
embarrassed,
: > me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except
my
: > ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way
home on
: > dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
: >
: > OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
: > experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
have
: > the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
: > right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
FullTime
: > before trying to get it in 4LO.
:
: Rule Number One: Four wheel drive is not four wheel stop.
:
: And it cannot make up for poor choice of tire. Or lack of driver
: experience.
:
: With few exceptions, NEVER try to use 4 wheel low on ice and snow. I
: honestly can't think of any exceptions unless you really need the extra
: pulling power and are using chains on all four wheels. In general, the
: highest gear that keeps your vehicle moving is the best gear on slippery.
:
: Downhill NEVER downshift. Pretend there is an egg between your foot and
: the brake pedal. Use the steering wheel with extreme caution. Keep
: the wheels turning at all times, particularly if you are trying to turn.
: That means to avoid a sliding wheel at all costs.


add to that always pump your brakes instead of using steady pressure.

 

Buy some snow tires. In conditions like those you are talking about, full
time four wheel drive might actually be better than part time. There will
be less tendency to skid anyway, and each wheel will have a chance to grab
the road.

Earle

"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ToNQf.924$R36.114@fe03.lga...
> >"How fast did your foot hit that brake?"... normal, I was only going 2-3
> miles an hour. it would actually start sliding from a dead stop with my
foot
> on the brake from gravity. That got me on the hand brake. I think foot
type
> parking brakes should be outlawed because my hand style brake saved my
butt!
>
> >"Tires?"... street tires... I know, not prepared I need lockers, lifts,
and
> >as we used to say back in the 70's "Meats"
>
> > "If you had the range shifter in the right slot, chances are good that
you
> > were actually in 4 lo"... I tried it again this evening out in front
and
> > it was in 4LO, just the light says 4 FullTime. I know there is less
> > traction in 4 FullTime than 4PartTime so I was worried and put it back
in
> > 4 PartTime on my way down.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441398cc$0$9162$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
> > This could be anything, but there are a few things for you to check out.
> > Do
> > you have the proper pressure in your tires? Are they snow, mud and
snow,
> > all terrain tires? How fast did your foot hit that brake? If you lock
up
> > the wheels, you will slide on any surface, especially snow, especially
wet
> > spring snow.
> >
> > I just got back from Durango in a blinding spring blizzard. Visibility
> > was
> > about ten feet on top of Molas Pass. I have a Jeep, but I took the
> > Suburban
> > of course. I had it in first, from the top of the Pass to my home in
> > Silverton. Being conservative is how I got to be fifty-five years old.
> > Damn! I forgot all about low range, until I read your post. The
Suburban
> > is heavier than the Jeep too, and presses down harder on the road,
giving
> > more traction. It will go through big snow banks, but don't drive it
fast
> > on slick roads. Maybe that is how the Chevy pickup did better than you.
> >
> > If you had the range shifter in the right slot, chances are good that
you
> > were actually in 4 lo. I am not sure whether there is a separate light
> > for
> > it. Maybe it shares the light with 4 PartTime. If you have an owner's
> > manual you should look in it to make sure.
> >
> > The worst road surface I have driven on, was a Virginia road in spring,
> > covered with ice, with rain water on top of that. Nasty!
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:iQKQf.582$R36.143@fe03.lga...
> >> OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
play
> > in
> >> the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up
several
> >> times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I
decided
> > to
> >> turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from
that
> >> point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start
sliding
> > as
> >> soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it
> >> in
> > a
> >> small ditch to stop.
> >> I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over
the
> >> ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
back
> > on
> >> the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on
the
> >> road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like
ice.
> >> I
> >> couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
possible
> >> using the hand brake and the compression.
> >> After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
> > shinny
> >> new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
> > embarrassed,
> >> me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except
my
> >> ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way
home
> > on
> >> dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
> >>
> >> OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
> >> experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
> >> have
> >> the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in
the
> >> right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
> > FullTime
> >> before trying to get it in 4LO.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Buy some snow tires. In conditions like those you are talking about, full
time four wheel drive might actually be better than part time. There will
be less tendency to skid anyway, and each wheel will have a chance to grab
the road.

Earle

"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ToNQf.924$R36.114@fe03.lga...
> >"How fast did your foot hit that brake?"... normal, I was only going 2-3
> miles an hour. it would actually start sliding from a dead stop with my
foot
> on the brake from gravity. That got me on the hand brake. I think foot
type
> parking brakes should be outlawed because my hand style brake saved my
butt!
>
> >"Tires?"... street tires... I know, not prepared I need lockers, lifts,
and
> >as we used to say back in the 70's "Meats"
>
> > "If you had the range shifter in the right slot, chances are good that
you
> > were actually in 4 lo"... I tried it again this evening out in front
and
> > it was in 4LO, just the light says 4 FullTime. I know there is less
> > traction in 4 FullTime than 4PartTime so I was worried and put it back
in
> > 4 PartTime on my way down.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441398cc$0$9162$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
> > This could be anything, but there are a few things for you to check out.
> > Do
> > you have the proper pressure in your tires? Are they snow, mud and
snow,
> > all terrain tires? How fast did your foot hit that brake? If you lock
up
> > the wheels, you will slide on any surface, especially snow, especially
wet
> > spring snow.
> >
> > I just got back from Durango in a blinding spring blizzard. Visibility
> > was
> > about ten feet on top of Molas Pass. I have a Jeep, but I took the
> > Suburban
> > of course. I had it in first, from the top of the Pass to my home in
> > Silverton. Being conservative is how I got to be fifty-five years old.
> > Damn! I forgot all about low range, until I read your post. The
Suburban
> > is heavier than the Jeep too, and presses down harder on the road,
giving
> > more traction. It will go through big snow banks, but don't drive it
fast
> > on slick roads. Maybe that is how the Chevy pickup did better than you.
> >
> > If you had the range shifter in the right slot, chances are good that
you
> > were actually in 4 lo. I am not sure whether there is a separate light
> > for
> > it. Maybe it shares the light with 4 PartTime. If you have an owner's
> > manual you should look in it to make sure.
> >
> > The worst road surface I have driven on, was a Virginia road in spring,
> > covered with ice, with rain water on top of that. Nasty!
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:iQKQf.582$R36.143@fe03.lga...
> >> OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
play
> > in
> >> the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up
several
> >> times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I
decided
> > to
> >> turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from
that
> >> point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start
sliding
> > as
> >> soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it
> >> in
> > a
> >> small ditch to stop.
> >> I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over
the
> >> ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
back
> > on
> >> the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on
the
> >> road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like
ice.
> >> I
> >> couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
possible
> >> using the hand brake and the compression.
> >> After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
> > shinny
> >> new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
> > embarrassed,
> >> me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except
my
> >> ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way
home
> > on
> >> dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
> >>
> >> OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
> >> experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
> >> have
> >> the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in
the
> >> right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
> > FullTime
> >> before trying to get it in 4LO.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***
> > *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from
> > http://www.SecureIX.com ***
>
>

 

Buy some snow tires. In conditions like those you are talking about, full
time four wheel drive might actually be better than part time. There will
be less tendency to skid anyway, and each wheel will have a chance to grab
the road.

Earle

"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ToNQf.924$R36.114@fe03.lga...
> >"How fast did your foot hit that brake?"... normal, I was only going 2-3
> miles an hour. it would actually start sliding from a dead stop with my
foot
> on the brake from gravity. That got me on the hand brake. I think foot
type
> parking brakes should be outlawed because my hand style brake saved my
butt!
>
> >"Tires?"... street tires... I know, not prepared I need lockers, lifts,
and
> >as we used to say back in the 70's "Meats"
>
> > "If you had the range shifter in the right slot, chances are good that
you
> > were actually in 4 lo"... I tried it again this evening out in front
and
> > it was in 4LO, just the light says 4 FullTime. I know there is less
> > traction in 4 FullTime than 4PartTime so I was worried and put it back
in
> > 4 PartTime on my way down.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441398cc$0$9162$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
> > This could be anything, but there are a few things for you to check out.
> > Do
> > you have the proper pressure in your tires? Are they snow, mud and
snow,
> > all terrain tires? How fast did your foot hit that brake? If you lock
up
> > the wheels, you will slide on any surface, especially snow, especially
wet
> > spring snow.
> >
> > I just got back from Durango in a blinding spring blizzard. Visibility
> > was
> > about ten feet on top of Molas Pass. I have a Jeep, but I took the
> > Suburban
> > of course. I had it in first, from the top of the Pass to my home in
> > Silverton. Being conservative is how I got to be fifty-five years old.
> > Damn! I forgot all about low range, until I read your post. The
Suburban
> > is heavier than the Jeep too, and presses down harder on the road,
giving
> > more traction. It will go through big snow banks, but don't drive it
fast
> > on slick roads. Maybe that is how the Chevy pickup did better than you.
> >
> > If you had the range shifter in the right slot, chances are good that
you
> > were actually in 4 lo. I am not sure whether there is a separate light
> > for
> > it. Maybe it shares the light with 4 PartTime. If you have an owner's
> > manual you should look in it to make sure.
> >
> > The worst road surface I have driven on, was a Virginia road in spring,
> > covered with ice, with rain water on top of that. Nasty!
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:iQKQf.582$R36.143@fe03.lga...
> >> OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
play
> > in
> >> the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up
several
> >> times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I
decided
> > to
> >> turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from
that
> >> point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start
sliding
> > as
> >> soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it
> >> in
> > a
> >> small ditch to stop.
> >> I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over
the
> >> ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
back
> > on
> >> the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on
the
> >> road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like
ice.
> >> I
> >> couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
possible
> >> using the hand brake and the compression.
> >> After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
> > shinny
> >> new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
> > embarrassed,
> >> me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except
my
> >> ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way
home
> > on
> >> dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
> >>
> >> OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
> >> experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
> >> have
> >> the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in
the
> >> right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
> > FullTime
> >> before trying to get it in 4LO.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***
> > *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from
> > http://www.SecureIX.com ***
>
>

 

Buy some snow tires. In conditions like those you are talking about, full
time four wheel drive might actually be better than part time. There will
be less tendency to skid anyway, and each wheel will have a chance to grab
the road.

Earle

"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ToNQf.924$R36.114@fe03.lga...
> >"How fast did your foot hit that brake?"... normal, I was only going 2-3
> miles an hour. it would actually start sliding from a dead stop with my
foot
> on the brake from gravity. That got me on the hand brake. I think foot
type
> parking brakes should be outlawed because my hand style brake saved my
butt!
>
> >"Tires?"... street tires... I know, not prepared I need lockers, lifts,
and
> >as we used to say back in the 70's "Meats"
>
> > "If you had the range shifter in the right slot, chances are good that
you
> > were actually in 4 lo"... I tried it again this evening out in front
and
> > it was in 4LO, just the light says 4 FullTime. I know there is less
> > traction in 4 FullTime than 4PartTime so I was worried and put it back
in
> > 4 PartTime on my way down.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441398cc$0$9162$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.co m...
> > This could be anything, but there are a few things for you to check out.
> > Do
> > you have the proper pressure in your tires? Are they snow, mud and
snow,
> > all terrain tires? How fast did your foot hit that brake? If you lock
up
> > the wheels, you will slide on any surface, especially snow, especially
wet
> > spring snow.
> >
> > I just got back from Durango in a blinding spring blizzard. Visibility
> > was
> > about ten feet on top of Molas Pass. I have a Jeep, but I took the
> > Suburban
> > of course. I had it in first, from the top of the Pass to my home in
> > Silverton. Being conservative is how I got to be fifty-five years old.
> > Damn! I forgot all about low range, until I read your post. The
Suburban
> > is heavier than the Jeep too, and presses down harder on the road,
giving
> > more traction. It will go through big snow banks, but don't drive it
fast
> > on slick roads. Maybe that is how the Chevy pickup did better than you.
> >
> > If you had the range shifter in the right slot, chances are good that
you
> > were actually in 4 lo. I am not sure whether there is a separate light
> > for
> > it. Maybe it shares the light with 4 PartTime. If you have an owner's
> > manual you should look in it to make sure.
> >
> > The worst road surface I have driven on, was a Virginia road in spring,
> > covered with ice, with rain water on top of that. Nasty!
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:iQKQf.582$R36.143@fe03.lga...
> >> OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
play
> > in
> >> the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up
several
> >> times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I
decided
> > to
> >> turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from
that
> >> point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start
sliding
> > as
> >> soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it
> >> in
> > a
> >> small ditch to stop.
> >> I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over
the
> >> ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
back
> > on
> >> the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on
the
> >> road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like
ice.
> >> I
> >> couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
possible
> >> using the hand brake and the compression.
> >> After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
> > shinny
> >> new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
> > embarrassed,
> >> me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except
my
> >> ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way
home
> > on
> >> dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
> >>
> >> OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
> >> experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
> >> have
> >> the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in
the
> >> right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
> > FullTime
> >> before trying to get it in 4LO.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
as it is sliding

Stimpy wrote:

> OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to play in
> the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
> times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I decided to
> turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from that
> point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding as
> soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it in a
> small ditch to stop.
> I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
> ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get back on
> the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
> road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice. I
> couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as possible
> using the hand brake and the compression.
> After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some shinny
> new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was embarrassed,
> me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except my
> ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way home on
> dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
>
> OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
> experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I have
> the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
> right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4 FullTime
> before trying to get it in 4LO.

 

you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
as it is sliding

Stimpy wrote:

> OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to play in
> the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
> times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I decided to
> turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from that
> point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding as
> soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it in a
> small ditch to stop.
> I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
> ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get back on
> the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
> road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice. I
> couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as possible
> using the hand brake and the compression.
> After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some shinny
> new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was embarrassed,
> me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except my
> ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way home on
> dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
>
> OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
> experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I have
> the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
> right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4 FullTime
> before trying to get it in 4LO.

 

you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
as it is sliding

Stimpy wrote:

> OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to play in
> the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
> times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I decided to
> turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from that
> point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding as
> soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it in a
> small ditch to stop.
> I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
> ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get back on
> the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
> road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice. I
> couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as possible
> using the hand brake and the compression.
> After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some shinny
> new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was embarrassed,
> me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except my
> ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way home on
> dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
>
> OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
> experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I have
> the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
> right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4 FullTime
> before trying to get it in 4LO.