Close Call!
#41
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Re: Close Call!
you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
as it is sliding
Stimpy wrote:
> OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to play in
> the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
> times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I decided to
> turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from that
> point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding as
> soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it in a
> small ditch to stop.
> I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
> ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get back on
> the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
> road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice. I
> couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as possible
> using the hand brake and the compression.
> After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some shinny
> new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was embarrassed,
> me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except my
> ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way home on
> dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
>
> OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
> experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I have
> the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
> right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4 FullTime
> before trying to get it in 4LO.
as it is sliding
Stimpy wrote:
> OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to play in
> the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
> times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I decided to
> turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from that
> point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding as
> soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it in a
> small ditch to stop.
> I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
> ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get back on
> the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
> road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice. I
> couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as possible
> using the hand brake and the compression.
> After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some shinny
> new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was embarrassed,
> me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except my
> ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way home on
> dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
>
> OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
> experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I have
> the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
> right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4 FullTime
> before trying to get it in 4LO.
#42
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Re: Close Call!
philthy wrote:
> you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
> as it is sliding
When I was in Maui, I rented a 6 cyl Jeep. I got to the edge on some
loose stuff and tried to stop, and it kept pushing. A quick bump into
neutral stopped the plunge before it happened...
> you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
> as it is sliding
When I was in Maui, I rented a 6 cyl Jeep. I got to the edge on some
loose stuff and tried to stop, and it kept pushing. A quick bump into
neutral stopped the plunge before it happened...
#43
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Re: Close Call!
philthy wrote:
> you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
> as it is sliding
When I was in Maui, I rented a 6 cyl Jeep. I got to the edge on some
loose stuff and tried to stop, and it kept pushing. A quick bump into
neutral stopped the plunge before it happened...
> you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
> as it is sliding
When I was in Maui, I rented a 6 cyl Jeep. I got to the edge on some
loose stuff and tried to stop, and it kept pushing. A quick bump into
neutral stopped the plunge before it happened...
#44
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Re: Close Call!
philthy wrote:
> you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
> as it is sliding
When I was in Maui, I rented a 6 cyl Jeep. I got to the edge on some
loose stuff and tried to stop, and it kept pushing. A quick bump into
neutral stopped the plunge before it happened...
> you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
> as it is sliding
When I was in Maui, I rented a 6 cyl Jeep. I got to the edge on some
loose stuff and tried to stop, and it kept pushing. A quick bump into
neutral stopped the plunge before it happened...
#45
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Re: Close Call!
philthy wrote:
> you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
> as it is sliding
When I was in Maui, I rented a 6 cyl Jeep. I got to the edge on some
loose stuff and tried to stop, and it kept pushing. A quick bump into
neutral stopped the plunge before it happened...
> you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
> as it is sliding
When I was in Maui, I rented a 6 cyl Jeep. I got to the edge on some
loose stuff and tried to stop, and it kept pushing. A quick bump into
neutral stopped the plunge before it happened...
#46
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Re: Close Call!
>
> Actually I wasn't going fast enough to gear down and my foot was never on
> the gas...:-) on 95 percent of the 3/4 mile trip I was going slower than
> walking, with my hand on the parking brake. I would let off the brakes
> whenever I wanted to stop sliding but the road was too steep to just go for
> it without using my brakes sometime down the road. ...
In other words, you were going too fast and didn't spill the speed off.
Best thing on slippery snot is brakes. Well taken care of brakes that
apply very evenly and smoothly without even the slightest grabbing.
That, and simply starting out slow enough that you can apply light
braking continuously without wheel slide. The parking brake is another
way to bend metal, leave it alone--there is no way you can apply it
smoothly and if the rear wheels break loose they tend to head for low
spots.
>
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-NRX841IfSdYR@anon.none.net...
>
>>From experience with one of those "learning moments" the first time I
>>messed around on a really bad packed snow setup, think twice before
>>using 4-lo on the slick-as-snot stuff. Another case where 4wd helps
>>you go but doesn't do squat for stopping. The problem is that just
>>as 4-lo increases the effective torque to help you go, it also
>>increases the engine braking torque when you get off the gas - and
>>when one wheel stops turning in 4wd you can count on the rest of them
>>locking up as well. You become an instant 4-point hockey puck. Same
>>holds for gearing down as you slow in 4-wd - let off the gas too fast
>>and the ride gets exciting. The idea is to keep the wheels turning
>>and not sliding - easier said than done at times - because once they
>>stop turning and start sliding you've lost ALL control.
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 02:31:09 UTC "Spdloader"
>><askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I lived in the snowy area of WV for 11 years. The road up to my house
>>>from
>>>the highway was as you described. Going up was not too bad in my old '90
>>>XJ,
>>>but coming down, now THAT was a lesson in nerves. I learned to shift the
>>>transmission to neutral, before going down hill, and when I wanted to
>>>come
>>>to a stop. In Drive, the engine actually pushes you to the point of
>>>breaking
>>>traction in a steep downhill like that. I went down that hill backwards a
>>>time or two. NOT on purpose. Ruined my drawers too.
>>>
>>>You should be able to shift on into low range by moving the lever to the
>>>side then pulling on back. It's not a straight pull into 4Lo. I always
>>>did
>>>mine stopped and in neutral.
>>>
>>>The compound in your tires has everything to do with traction. Soft tires
>>>(low durometer) with lots of little "edges" in the tread will do better
>>>in
>>>snow than the big mud type tires, or tires with a harder, (high
>>>durometer)
>>>high mileage sort of compound. That may or may not be your case.
>>>
>>>On ice, you could have twelve-wheel-drive, and still slide out of
>>>control.
>>>Slow and deliberate is the key.
>>>
>>>Good luck,
>>>
>>>Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>>"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:iQKQf.582$R36.143@fe03.lga...
>>>
>>>>OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
>>>>play
>>>>in the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up
>>>>several times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so
>>>>I
>>>>decided to turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got
>>>>steeper
>>>>from that point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I
>>>>start
>>>>sliding as soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I
>>>>had
>>>>to put it in a small ditch to stop.
>>>>I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over
>>>>the
>>>>ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
>>>>back
>>>>on the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on
>>>>the road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like
>>>>ice. I couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
>>>>possible using the hand brake and the compression.
>>>>After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
>>>>shinny new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
>>>>embarrassed, me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no
>>>>damage except my ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went
>>>>45
>>>>all the way home on dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
>>>>
>>>>OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
>>>>experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
>>>>have
>>>>the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in
>>>>the
>>>>right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
>>>>FullTime before trying to get it in 4LO.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Will Honea
>
>
>
#47
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Re: Close Call!
>
> Actually I wasn't going fast enough to gear down and my foot was never on
> the gas...:-) on 95 percent of the 3/4 mile trip I was going slower than
> walking, with my hand on the parking brake. I would let off the brakes
> whenever I wanted to stop sliding but the road was too steep to just go for
> it without using my brakes sometime down the road. ...
In other words, you were going too fast and didn't spill the speed off.
Best thing on slippery snot is brakes. Well taken care of brakes that
apply very evenly and smoothly without even the slightest grabbing.
That, and simply starting out slow enough that you can apply light
braking continuously without wheel slide. The parking brake is another
way to bend metal, leave it alone--there is no way you can apply it
smoothly and if the rear wheels break loose they tend to head for low
spots.
>
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-NRX841IfSdYR@anon.none.net...
>
>>From experience with one of those "learning moments" the first time I
>>messed around on a really bad packed snow setup, think twice before
>>using 4-lo on the slick-as-snot stuff. Another case where 4wd helps
>>you go but doesn't do squat for stopping. The problem is that just
>>as 4-lo increases the effective torque to help you go, it also
>>increases the engine braking torque when you get off the gas - and
>>when one wheel stops turning in 4wd you can count on the rest of them
>>locking up as well. You become an instant 4-point hockey puck. Same
>>holds for gearing down as you slow in 4-wd - let off the gas too fast
>>and the ride gets exciting. The idea is to keep the wheels turning
>>and not sliding - easier said than done at times - because once they
>>stop turning and start sliding you've lost ALL control.
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 02:31:09 UTC "Spdloader"
>><askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I lived in the snowy area of WV for 11 years. The road up to my house
>>>from
>>>the highway was as you described. Going up was not too bad in my old '90
>>>XJ,
>>>but coming down, now THAT was a lesson in nerves. I learned to shift the
>>>transmission to neutral, before going down hill, and when I wanted to
>>>come
>>>to a stop. In Drive, the engine actually pushes you to the point of
>>>breaking
>>>traction in a steep downhill like that. I went down that hill backwards a
>>>time or two. NOT on purpose. Ruined my drawers too.
>>>
>>>You should be able to shift on into low range by moving the lever to the
>>>side then pulling on back. It's not a straight pull into 4Lo. I always
>>>did
>>>mine stopped and in neutral.
>>>
>>>The compound in your tires has everything to do with traction. Soft tires
>>>(low durometer) with lots of little "edges" in the tread will do better
>>>in
>>>snow than the big mud type tires, or tires with a harder, (high
>>>durometer)
>>>high mileage sort of compound. That may or may not be your case.
>>>
>>>On ice, you could have twelve-wheel-drive, and still slide out of
>>>control.
>>>Slow and deliberate is the key.
>>>
>>>Good luck,
>>>
>>>Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>>"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:iQKQf.582$R36.143@fe03.lga...
>>>
>>>>OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
>>>>play
>>>>in the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up
>>>>several times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so
>>>>I
>>>>decided to turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got
>>>>steeper
>>>>from that point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I
>>>>start
>>>>sliding as soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I
>>>>had
>>>>to put it in a small ditch to stop.
>>>>I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over
>>>>the
>>>>ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
>>>>back
>>>>on the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on
>>>>the road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like
>>>>ice. I couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
>>>>possible using the hand brake and the compression.
>>>>After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
>>>>shinny new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
>>>>embarrassed, me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no
>>>>damage except my ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went
>>>>45
>>>>all the way home on dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
>>>>
>>>>OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
>>>>experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
>>>>have
>>>>the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in
>>>>the
>>>>right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
>>>>FullTime before trying to get it in 4LO.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Will Honea
>
>
>
#48
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Re: Close Call!
>
> Actually I wasn't going fast enough to gear down and my foot was never on
> the gas...:-) on 95 percent of the 3/4 mile trip I was going slower than
> walking, with my hand on the parking brake. I would let off the brakes
> whenever I wanted to stop sliding but the road was too steep to just go for
> it without using my brakes sometime down the road. ...
In other words, you were going too fast and didn't spill the speed off.
Best thing on slippery snot is brakes. Well taken care of brakes that
apply very evenly and smoothly without even the slightest grabbing.
That, and simply starting out slow enough that you can apply light
braking continuously without wheel slide. The parking brake is another
way to bend metal, leave it alone--there is no way you can apply it
smoothly and if the rear wheels break loose they tend to head for low
spots.
>
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-NRX841IfSdYR@anon.none.net...
>
>>From experience with one of those "learning moments" the first time I
>>messed around on a really bad packed snow setup, think twice before
>>using 4-lo on the slick-as-snot stuff. Another case where 4wd helps
>>you go but doesn't do squat for stopping. The problem is that just
>>as 4-lo increases the effective torque to help you go, it also
>>increases the engine braking torque when you get off the gas - and
>>when one wheel stops turning in 4wd you can count on the rest of them
>>locking up as well. You become an instant 4-point hockey puck. Same
>>holds for gearing down as you slow in 4-wd - let off the gas too fast
>>and the ride gets exciting. The idea is to keep the wheels turning
>>and not sliding - easier said than done at times - because once they
>>stop turning and start sliding you've lost ALL control.
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 02:31:09 UTC "Spdloader"
>><askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I lived in the snowy area of WV for 11 years. The road up to my house
>>>from
>>>the highway was as you described. Going up was not too bad in my old '90
>>>XJ,
>>>but coming down, now THAT was a lesson in nerves. I learned to shift the
>>>transmission to neutral, before going down hill, and when I wanted to
>>>come
>>>to a stop. In Drive, the engine actually pushes you to the point of
>>>breaking
>>>traction in a steep downhill like that. I went down that hill backwards a
>>>time or two. NOT on purpose. Ruined my drawers too.
>>>
>>>You should be able to shift on into low range by moving the lever to the
>>>side then pulling on back. It's not a straight pull into 4Lo. I always
>>>did
>>>mine stopped and in neutral.
>>>
>>>The compound in your tires has everything to do with traction. Soft tires
>>>(low durometer) with lots of little "edges" in the tread will do better
>>>in
>>>snow than the big mud type tires, or tires with a harder, (high
>>>durometer)
>>>high mileage sort of compound. That may or may not be your case.
>>>
>>>On ice, you could have twelve-wheel-drive, and still slide out of
>>>control.
>>>Slow and deliberate is the key.
>>>
>>>Good luck,
>>>
>>>Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>>"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:iQKQf.582$R36.143@fe03.lga...
>>>
>>>>OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
>>>>play
>>>>in the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up
>>>>several times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so
>>>>I
>>>>decided to turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got
>>>>steeper
>>>>from that point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I
>>>>start
>>>>sliding as soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I
>>>>had
>>>>to put it in a small ditch to stop.
>>>>I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over
>>>>the
>>>>ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
>>>>back
>>>>on the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on
>>>>the road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like
>>>>ice. I couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
>>>>possible using the hand brake and the compression.
>>>>After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
>>>>shinny new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
>>>>embarrassed, me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no
>>>>damage except my ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went
>>>>45
>>>>all the way home on dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
>>>>
>>>>OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
>>>>experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
>>>>have
>>>>the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in
>>>>the
>>>>right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
>>>>FullTime before trying to get it in 4LO.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Will Honea
>
>
>
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Close Call!
>
> Actually I wasn't going fast enough to gear down and my foot was never on
> the gas...:-) on 95 percent of the 3/4 mile trip I was going slower than
> walking, with my hand on the parking brake. I would let off the brakes
> whenever I wanted to stop sliding but the road was too steep to just go for
> it without using my brakes sometime down the road. ...
In other words, you were going too fast and didn't spill the speed off.
Best thing on slippery snot is brakes. Well taken care of brakes that
apply very evenly and smoothly without even the slightest grabbing.
That, and simply starting out slow enough that you can apply light
braking continuously without wheel slide. The parking brake is another
way to bend metal, leave it alone--there is no way you can apply it
smoothly and if the rear wheels break loose they tend to head for low
spots.
>
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-NRX841IfSdYR@anon.none.net...
>
>>From experience with one of those "learning moments" the first time I
>>messed around on a really bad packed snow setup, think twice before
>>using 4-lo on the slick-as-snot stuff. Another case where 4wd helps
>>you go but doesn't do squat for stopping. The problem is that just
>>as 4-lo increases the effective torque to help you go, it also
>>increases the engine braking torque when you get off the gas - and
>>when one wheel stops turning in 4wd you can count on the rest of them
>>locking up as well. You become an instant 4-point hockey puck. Same
>>holds for gearing down as you slow in 4-wd - let off the gas too fast
>>and the ride gets exciting. The idea is to keep the wheels turning
>>and not sliding - easier said than done at times - because once they
>>stop turning and start sliding you've lost ALL control.
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 02:31:09 UTC "Spdloader"
>><askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I lived in the snowy area of WV for 11 years. The road up to my house
>>>from
>>>the highway was as you described. Going up was not too bad in my old '90
>>>XJ,
>>>but coming down, now THAT was a lesson in nerves. I learned to shift the
>>>transmission to neutral, before going down hill, and when I wanted to
>>>come
>>>to a stop. In Drive, the engine actually pushes you to the point of
>>>breaking
>>>traction in a steep downhill like that. I went down that hill backwards a
>>>time or two. NOT on purpose. Ruined my drawers too.
>>>
>>>You should be able to shift on into low range by moving the lever to the
>>>side then pulling on back. It's not a straight pull into 4Lo. I always
>>>did
>>>mine stopped and in neutral.
>>>
>>>The compound in your tires has everything to do with traction. Soft tires
>>>(low durometer) with lots of little "edges" in the tread will do better
>>>in
>>>snow than the big mud type tires, or tires with a harder, (high
>>>durometer)
>>>high mileage sort of compound. That may or may not be your case.
>>>
>>>On ice, you could have twelve-wheel-drive, and still slide out of
>>>control.
>>>Slow and deliberate is the key.
>>>
>>>Good luck,
>>>
>>>Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>>"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:iQKQf.582$R36.143@fe03.lga...
>>>
>>>>OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
>>>>play
>>>>in the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up
>>>>several times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so
>>>>I
>>>>decided to turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got
>>>>steeper
>>>>from that point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I
>>>>start
>>>>sliding as soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I
>>>>had
>>>>to put it in a small ditch to stop.
>>>>I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over
>>>>the
>>>>ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
>>>>back
>>>>on the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on
>>>>the road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like
>>>>ice. I couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
>>>>possible using the hand brake and the compression.
>>>>After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
>>>>shinny new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
>>>>embarrassed, me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no
>>>>damage except my ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went
>>>>45
>>>>all the way home on dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
>>>>
>>>>OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
>>>>experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
>>>>have
>>>>the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in
>>>>the
>>>>right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
>>>>FullTime before trying to get it in 4LO.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Will Honea
>
>
>
#50
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Re: Close Call!
Ayup, driving stick shifts in areas where icy bridges, shaded corners,
etc. exist, I'd always keep a foot right on the clutch ready to
de-clutch immediately try to get a wheel to start gaining a few
micro-ounces of traction.
philthy proclaimed:
> you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
> as it is sliding
>
> Stimpy wrote:
>
>
>>OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to play in
>>the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
>>times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I decided to
>>turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from that
>>point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding as
>>soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it in a
>>small ditch to stop.
>>I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
>>ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get back on
>>the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
>>road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice. I
>>couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as possible
>>using the hand brake and the compression.
>>After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some shinny
>>new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was embarrassed,
>>me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except my
>>ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way home on
>>dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
>>
>>OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
>>experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I have
>>the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
>>right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4 FullTime
>>before trying to get it in 4LO.
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etc. exist, I'd always keep a foot right on the clutch ready to
de-clutch immediately try to get a wheel to start gaining a few
micro-ounces of traction.
philthy proclaimed:
> you would not believe how much a vehicle recovers when putting it into neutral
> as it is sliding
>
> Stimpy wrote:
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>>OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to play in
>>the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
>>times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I decided to
>>turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from that
>>point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding as
>>soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it in a
>>small ditch to stop.
>>I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
>>ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get back on
>>the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
>>road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice. I
>>couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as possible
>>using the hand brake and the compression.
>>After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some shinny
>>new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was embarrassed,
>>me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except my
>>ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way home on
>>dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
>>
>>OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
>>experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I have
>>the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
>>right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4 FullTime
>>before trying to get it in 4LO.
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