What's this 360 worth?
06-25-2004, 03:11 PM
#101
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
Someone else posted that their 76 uses unleaded gas from stock....
Mike
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
> the part number and found the supplier:
> MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
> I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
> to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
> leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
> one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
> the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
> special order item...
>
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> HomeBrewer
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>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> > A couple more thoughts.
> >
> > A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> > needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> > on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
> >
> > Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> > it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> > needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> > 'waaay' over budget!
> >
> > Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> > I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> > figure that sounds right to me as well.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > HomeBrewer wrote:
> > >
> > > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
> engine
> > > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
> of
> > > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> > >
> > > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> > >
> > > What is a "modern" head?
> > >
> > > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > > pump gas.
> > >
> > > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> > >
> > > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> > >
> > > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
> valves
> > > at all.
> > >
> > > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
> are
> > > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
> know
> > > > any better??
> > >
> > > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
> valve
> > > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > > something?
> > >
> > > --
> > > _____________
> > > HomeBrewer
> > > Remove the xxx to reply!
Mike
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
> the part number and found the supplier:
> MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
> I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
> to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
> leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
> one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
> the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
> special order item...
>
> ________________
> HomeBrewer
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> > A couple more thoughts.
> >
> > A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> > needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> > on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
> >
> > Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> > it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> > needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> > 'waaay' over budget!
> >
> > Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> > I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> > figure that sounds right to me as well.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > HomeBrewer wrote:
> > >
> > > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
> engine
> > > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
> of
> > > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> > >
> > > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> > >
> > > What is a "modern" head?
> > >
> > > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > > pump gas.
> > >
> > > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> > >
> > > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> > >
> > > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
> valves
> > > at all.
> > >
> > > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
> are
> > > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
> know
> > > > any better??
> > >
> > > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
> valve
> > > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > > something?
> > >
> > > --
> > > _____________
> > > HomeBrewer
> > > Remove the xxx to reply!
06-25-2004, 04:00 PM
#102
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
> Someone else posted that their 76 uses unleaded gas from stock....
I saw that and then Bill said something about California and then John
confirmed it was a Ca Jeep. Not that I know what that has to do with
anything, but... maybe the californians made their own 304 heads for that
jeep in 76, while my 304 came from Va where they couldn't have cared less
about air pollution in 76.
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I saw that and then Bill said something about California and then John
confirmed it was a Ca Jeep. Not that I know what that has to do with
anything, but... maybe the californians made their own 304 heads for that
jeep in 76, while my 304 came from Va where they couldn't have cared less
about air pollution in 76.
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06-25-2004, 04:00 PM
#103
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
> Someone else posted that their 76 uses unleaded gas from stock....
I saw that and then Bill said something about California and then John
confirmed it was a Ca Jeep. Not that I know what that has to do with
anything, but... maybe the californians made their own 304 heads for that
jeep in 76, while my 304 came from Va where they couldn't have cared less
about air pollution in 76.
--
_____________
HomeBrewer
Remove the xxx to reply!
I saw that and then Bill said something about California and then John
confirmed it was a Ca Jeep. Not that I know what that has to do with
anything, but... maybe the californians made their own 304 heads for that
jeep in 76, while my 304 came from Va where they couldn't have cared less
about air pollution in 76.
--
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06-25-2004, 04:00 PM
#104
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
> Someone else posted that their 76 uses unleaded gas from stock....
I saw that and then Bill said something about California and then John
confirmed it was a Ca Jeep. Not that I know what that has to do with
anything, but... maybe the californians made their own 304 heads for that
jeep in 76, while my 304 came from Va where they couldn't have cared less
about air pollution in 76.
--
_____________
HomeBrewer
Remove the xxx to reply!
I saw that and then Bill said something about California and then John
confirmed it was a Ca Jeep. Not that I know what that has to do with
anything, but... maybe the californians made their own 304 heads for that
jeep in 76, while my 304 came from Va where they couldn't have cared less
about air pollution in 76.
--
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06-25-2004, 04:00 PM
#105
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
> Someone else posted that their 76 uses unleaded gas from stock....
I saw that and then Bill said something about California and then John
confirmed it was a Ca Jeep. Not that I know what that has to do with
anything, but... maybe the californians made their own 304 heads for that
jeep in 76, while my 304 came from Va where they couldn't have cared less
about air pollution in 76.
--
_____________
HomeBrewer
Remove the xxx to reply!
I saw that and then Bill said something about California and then John
confirmed it was a Ca Jeep. Not that I know what that has to do with
anything, but... maybe the californians made their own 304 heads for that
jeep in 76, while my 304 came from Va where they couldn't have cared less
about air pollution in 76.
--
_____________
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06-25-2004, 04:01 PM
#106
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
If your Jeep had been bought in any other state it would have had
another three or four years before it would had to come with the smaller
unleaded gas tank fill neck.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Benito wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Yes, this is a California Jeep.
>
> benito -
> 01 TJ
> 76 CJ
another three or four years before it would had to come with the smaller
unleaded gas tank fill neck.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Benito wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Yes, this is a California Jeep.
>
> benito -
> 01 TJ
> 76 CJ
06-25-2004, 04:01 PM
#107
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
If your Jeep had been bought in any other state it would have had
another three or four years before it would had to come with the smaller
unleaded gas tank fill neck.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Benito wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Yes, this is a California Jeep.
>
> benito -
> 01 TJ
> 76 CJ
another three or four years before it would had to come with the smaller
unleaded gas tank fill neck.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Benito wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Yes, this is a California Jeep.
>
> benito -
> 01 TJ
> 76 CJ
06-25-2004, 04:01 PM
#108
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
If your Jeep had been bought in any other state it would have had
another three or four years before it would had to come with the smaller
unleaded gas tank fill neck.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Benito wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Yes, this is a California Jeep.
>
> benito -
> 01 TJ
> 76 CJ
another three or four years before it would had to come with the smaller
unleaded gas tank fill neck.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Benito wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Yes, this is a California Jeep.
>
> benito -
> 01 TJ
> 76 CJ
06-25-2004, 04:01 PM
#109
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
If your Jeep had been bought in any other state it would have had
another three or four years before it would had to come with the smaller
unleaded gas tank fill neck.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Benito wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Yes, this is a California Jeep.
>
> benito -
> 01 TJ
> 76 CJ
another three or four years before it would had to come with the smaller
unleaded gas tank fill neck.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
John Benito wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Yes, this is a California Jeep.
>
> benito -
> 01 TJ
> 76 CJ
06-25-2004, 04:10 PM
#110
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
I am in Canada and had a brand new car in 1976. They all ran on
unleaded by then.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> If your Jeep had been bought in any other state it would have had
> another three or four years before it would had to come with the smaller
> unleaded gas tank fill neck.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Benito wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > Yes, this is a California Jeep.
> >
> > benito -
> > 01 TJ
> > 76 CJ
unleaded by then.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> If your Jeep had been bought in any other state it would have had
> another three or four years before it would had to come with the smaller
> unleaded gas tank fill neck.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Benito wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > Yes, this is a California Jeep.
> >
> > benito -
> > 01 TJ
> > 76 CJ