What's this 360 worth?
06-25-2004, 10:12 AM
#91
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
Bill,
Yes, this is a California Jeep.
benito -
01 TJ
76 CJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> A California car complete with catalytic converter.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Benito wrote:
> >
> > I have a 76 CJ7 304 with Quadra-Trac, the original Instrument Cluster
states
> > "unleaded fuel only" between the temp gauge and the fuel gauge. Also
> > checked the Owner's manual, it also states that unleaded fuel is to be
used.
> > Hope this helps.
Yes, this is a California Jeep.
benito -
01 TJ
76 CJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> A California car complete with catalytic converter.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Benito wrote:
> >
> > I have a 76 CJ7 304 with Quadra-Trac, the original Instrument Cluster
states
> > "unleaded fuel only" between the temp gauge and the fuel gauge. Also
> > checked the Owner's manual, it also states that unleaded fuel is to be
used.
> > Hope this helps.
06-25-2004, 10:12 AM
#92
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
Bill,
Yes, this is a California Jeep.
benito -
01 TJ
76 CJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40DBC5F6.61D9FF3F@***.net...
> A California car complete with catalytic converter.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Benito wrote:
> >
> > I have a 76 CJ7 304 with Quadra-Trac, the original Instrument Cluster
states
> > "unleaded fuel only" between the temp gauge and the fuel gauge. Also
> > checked the Owner's manual, it also states that unleaded fuel is to be
used.
> > Hope this helps.
Yes, this is a California Jeep.
benito -
01 TJ
76 CJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40DBC5F6.61D9FF3F@***.net...
> A California car complete with catalytic converter.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Benito wrote:
> >
> > I have a 76 CJ7 304 with Quadra-Trac, the original Instrument Cluster
states
> > "unleaded fuel only" between the temp gauge and the fuel gauge. Also
> > checked the Owner's manual, it also states that unleaded fuel is to be
used.
> > Hope this helps.
06-25-2004, 10:12 AM
#93
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
Bill,
Yes, this is a California Jeep.
benito -
01 TJ
76 CJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40DBC5F6.61D9FF3F@***.net...
> A California car complete with catalytic converter.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Benito wrote:
> >
> > I have a 76 CJ7 304 with Quadra-Trac, the original Instrument Cluster
states
> > "unleaded fuel only" between the temp gauge and the fuel gauge. Also
> > checked the Owner's manual, it also states that unleaded fuel is to be
used.
> > Hope this helps.
Yes, this is a California Jeep.
benito -
01 TJ
76 CJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40DBC5F6.61D9FF3F@***.net...
> A California car complete with catalytic converter.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> John Benito wrote:
> >
> > I have a 76 CJ7 304 with Quadra-Trac, the original Instrument Cluster
states
> > "unleaded fuel only" between the temp gauge and the fuel gauge. Also
> > checked the Owner's manual, it also states that unleaded fuel is to be
used.
> > Hope this helps.
06-25-2004, 02:09 PM
#94
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
the part number and found the supplier:
MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
special order item...
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> A couple more thoughts.
>
> A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
>
> Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> 'waaay' over budget!
>
> Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> figure that sounds right to me as well.
>
> Mike
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
> >
> > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
engine
> > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
of
> > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> >
> > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> >
> > What is a "modern" head?
> >
> > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > pump gas.
> >
> > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> >
> > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> >
> > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
valves
> > at all.
> >
> > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
are
> > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
know
> > > any better??
> >
> > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
valve
> > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > something?
> >
> > --
> > _____________
> > HomeBrewer
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
the part number and found the supplier:
MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
special order item...
________________
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> A couple more thoughts.
>
> A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
>
> Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> 'waaay' over budget!
>
> Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> figure that sounds right to me as well.
>
> Mike
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
> >
> > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
engine
> > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
of
> > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> >
> > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> >
> > What is a "modern" head?
> >
> > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > pump gas.
> >
> > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> >
> > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> >
> > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
valves
> > at all.
> >
> > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
are
> > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
know
> > > any better??
> >
> > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
valve
> > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > something?
> >
> > --
> > _____________
> > HomeBrewer
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
06-25-2004, 02:09 PM
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
the part number and found the supplier:
MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
special order item...
________________
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> A couple more thoughts.
>
> A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
>
> Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> 'waaay' over budget!
>
> Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> figure that sounds right to me as well.
>
> Mike
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
> >
> > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
engine
> > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
of
> > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> >
> > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> >
> > What is a "modern" head?
> >
> > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > pump gas.
> >
> > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> >
> > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> >
> > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
valves
> > at all.
> >
> > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
are
> > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
know
> > > any better??
> >
> > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
valve
> > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > something?
> >
> > --
> > _____________
> > HomeBrewer
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
the part number and found the supplier:
MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
special order item...
________________
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> A couple more thoughts.
>
> A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
>
> Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> 'waaay' over budget!
>
> Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> figure that sounds right to me as well.
>
> Mike
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
> >
> > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
engine
> > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
of
> > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> >
> > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> >
> > What is a "modern" head?
> >
> > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > pump gas.
> >
> > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> >
> > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> >
> > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
valves
> > at all.
> >
> > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
are
> > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
know
> > > any better??
> >
> > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
valve
> > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > something?
> >
> > --
> > _____________
> > HomeBrewer
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
06-25-2004, 02:09 PM
#96
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
the part number and found the supplier:
MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
special order item...
________________
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> A couple more thoughts.
>
> A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
>
> Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> 'waaay' over budget!
>
> Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> figure that sounds right to me as well.
>
> Mike
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
> >
> > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
engine
> > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
of
> > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> >
> > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> >
> > What is a "modern" head?
> >
> > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > pump gas.
> >
> > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> >
> > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> >
> > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
valves
> > at all.
> >
> > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
are
> > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
know
> > > any better??
> >
> > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
valve
> > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > something?
> >
> > --
> > _____________
> > HomeBrewer
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
the part number and found the supplier:
MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
special order item...
________________
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> A couple more thoughts.
>
> A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
>
> Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> 'waaay' over budget!
>
> Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> figure that sounds right to me as well.
>
> Mike
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
> >
> > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
engine
> > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
of
> > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> >
> > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> >
> > What is a "modern" head?
> >
> > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > pump gas.
> >
> > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> >
> > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> >
> > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
valves
> > at all.
> >
> > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
are
> > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
know
> > > any better??
> >
> > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
valve
> > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > something?
> >
> > --
> > _____________
> > HomeBrewer
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
06-25-2004, 02:09 PM
#97
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
the part number and found the supplier:
MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
special order item...
________________
HomeBrewer
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> A couple more thoughts.
>
> A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
>
> Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> 'waaay' over budget!
>
> Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> figure that sounds right to me as well.
>
> Mike
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
> >
> > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
engine
> > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
of
> > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> >
> > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> >
> > What is a "modern" head?
> >
> > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > pump gas.
> >
> > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> >
> > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> >
> > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
valves
> > at all.
> >
> > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
are
> > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
know
> > > any better??
> >
> > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
valve
> > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > something?
> >
> > --
> > _____________
> > HomeBrewer
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
the part number and found the supplier:
MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
special order item...
________________
HomeBrewer
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> A couple more thoughts.
>
> A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
>
> Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> 'waaay' over budget!
>
> Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> figure that sounds right to me as well.
>
> Mike
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
> >
> > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
engine
> > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
of
> > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> >
> > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> >
> > What is a "modern" head?
> >
> > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > pump gas.
> >
> > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> >
> > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> >
> > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
valves
> > at all.
> >
> > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
are
> > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
know
> > > any better??
> >
> > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
valve
> > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > something?
> >
> > --
> > _____________
> > HomeBrewer
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
06-25-2004, 03:11 PM
#98
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Re: What's this 360 worth?
Someone else posted that their 76 uses unleaded gas from stock....
Mike
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
> the part number and found the supplier:
> MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
> I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
> to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
> leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
> one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
> the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
> special order item...
>
> ________________
> HomeBrewer
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> > A couple more thoughts.
> >
> > A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> > needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> > on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
> >
> > Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> > it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> > needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> > 'waaay' over budget!
> >
> > Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> > I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> > figure that sounds right to me as well.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > HomeBrewer wrote:
> > >
> > > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
> engine
> > > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
> of
> > > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> > >
> > > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> > >
> > > What is a "modern" head?
> > >
> > > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > > pump gas.
> > >
> > > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> > >
> > > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> > >
> > > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
> valves
> > > at all.
> > >
> > > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
> are
> > > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
> know
> > > > any better??
> > >
> > > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
> valve
> > > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > > something?
> > >
> > > --
> > > _____________
> > > HomeBrewer
> > > Remove the xxx to reply!
Mike
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
> the part number and found the supplier:
> MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
> I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
> to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
> leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
> one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
> the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
> special order item...
>
> ________________
> HomeBrewer
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> > A couple more thoughts.
> >
> > A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> > needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> > on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
> >
> > Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> > it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> > needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> > 'waaay' over budget!
> >
> > Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> > I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> > figure that sounds right to me as well.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > HomeBrewer wrote:
> > >
> > > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
> engine
> > > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
> of
> > > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> > >
> > > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> > >
> > > What is a "modern" head?
> > >
> > > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > > pump gas.
> > >
> > > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> > >
> > > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> > >
> > > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
> valves
> > > at all.
> > >
> > > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
> are
> > > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
> know
> > > > any better??
> > >
> > > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
> valve
> > > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > > something?
> > >
> > > --
> > > _____________
> > > HomeBrewer
> > > Remove the xxx to reply!
06-25-2004, 03:11 PM
#99
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What's this 360 worth?
Someone else posted that their 76 uses unleaded gas from stock....
Mike
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
> the part number and found the supplier:
> MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
> I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
> to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
> leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
> one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
> the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
> special order item...
>
> ________________
> HomeBrewer
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> > A couple more thoughts.
> >
> > A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> > needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> > on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
> >
> > Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> > it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> > needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> > 'waaay' over budget!
> >
> > Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> > I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> > figure that sounds right to me as well.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > HomeBrewer wrote:
> > >
> > > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
> engine
> > > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
> of
> > > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> > >
> > > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> > >
> > > What is a "modern" head?
> > >
> > > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > > pump gas.
> > >
> > > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> > >
> > > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> > >
> > > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
> valves
> > > at all.
> > >
> > > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
> are
> > > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
> know
> > > > any better??
> > >
> > > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
> valve
> > > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > > something?
> > >
> > > --
> > > _____________
> > > HomeBrewer
> > > Remove the xxx to reply!
Mike
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
> the part number and found the supplier:
> MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
> I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
> to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
> leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
> one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
> the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
> special order item...
>
> ________________
> HomeBrewer
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> > A couple more thoughts.
> >
> > A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> > needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> > on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
> >
> > Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> > it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> > needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> > 'waaay' over budget!
> >
> > Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> > I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> > figure that sounds right to me as well.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > HomeBrewer wrote:
> > >
> > > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
> engine
> > > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
> of
> > > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> > >
> > > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> > >
> > > What is a "modern" head?
> > >
> > > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > > pump gas.
> > >
> > > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> > >
> > > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> > >
> > > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
> valves
> > > at all.
> > >
> > > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
> are
> > > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
> know
> > > > any better??
> > >
> > > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
> valve
> > > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > > something?
> > >
> > > --
> > > _____________
> > > HomeBrewer
> > > Remove the xxx to reply!
06-25-2004, 03:11 PM
#100
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What's this 360 worth?
Someone else posted that their 76 uses unleaded gas from stock....
Mike
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
> the part number and found the supplier:
> MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
> I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
> to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
> leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
> one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
> the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
> special order item...
>
> ________________
> HomeBrewer
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> > A couple more thoughts.
> >
> > A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> > needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> > on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
> >
> > Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> > it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> > needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> > 'waaay' over budget!
> >
> > Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> > I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> > figure that sounds right to me as well.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > HomeBrewer wrote:
> > >
> > > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
> engine
> > > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
> of
> > > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> > >
> > > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> > >
> > > What is a "modern" head?
> > >
> > > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > > pump gas.
> > >
> > > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> > >
> > > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> > >
> > > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
> valves
> > > at all.
> > >
> > > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
> are
> > > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
> know
> > > > any better??
> > >
> > > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
> valve
> > > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > > something?
> > >
> > > --
> > > _____________
> > > HomeBrewer
> > > Remove the xxx to reply!
Mike
HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I tracked down the info - The new head was bought at autozone. I researched
> the part number and found the supplier:
> MOORE'S CYLINDER HEAD
> I called them an one of their techs informed me that the heads they supply
> to autozone have hardened valve seats - since you can't buy leaded gas. The
> leaded gas provided lube for the valves in earlier engines. So at least the
> one new head on the engine has hardened valve seats....I'll have to assume
> the second head doesn't. A matching head is a $120 at autozone, but is a
> special order item...
>
> ________________
> HomeBrewer
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40DA8A8C.1666960A@sympatico.ca...
> > A couple more thoughts.
> >
> > A valve job runs from 3 to $500.00 per head depending on what is
> > needed. I don't know what machining in new valve seats would run extra
> > on top of that, but I bet it isn't a cheap job.
> >
> > Sometimes people get in over their heads with a 'project' and figure
> > it's best to cut their losses. Especially if they just found out it
> > needs another grand or more to have a decent runner. That just put them
> > 'waaay' over budget!
> >
> > Maybe it will run for a while with the old heads, I really don't know.
> > I am only going on Bill saying that engine has the old heads stock and I
> > figure that sounds right to me as well.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > HomeBrewer wrote:
> > >
> > > Forgive me for the dumb questions.....I have never bought a rebuilt
> engine
> > > and I want to make sure I'm not getting burned. I trust this group most
> of
> > > the time....but I usually try to get more than one opinion.
> > >
> > > > I don't know what year 'if any' that they put modern heads on the 304.
> > >
> > > What is a "modern" head?
> > >
> > > > That means the valve seats need to be changed so the engine can run on
> > > > pump gas.
> > >
> > > So the 304's originally ran on something other than "pump gas"?
> > >
> > > > Having a receipt for a 'valve job' is not the same as having a receipt
> > > > for having hardened valve seats installed.
> > >
> > > He has not replied about the valves yet - no mention of receipts for
> valves
> > > at all.
> > >
> > > > Because they didn't know any better, then when they found out, they
> are
> > > > now trying to unload the boat anchor to some one else that doesn't
> know
> > > > any better??
> > >
> > > I guess installing hardened valve seats is not as easy as it sounds? Why
> > > would anyone spend $1400 + on a motor then try to unload it cause the
> valve
> > > seats are not hardened? Why not just burn premium gas? Or am I missing
> > > something?
> > >
> > > --
> > > _____________
> > > HomeBrewer
> > > Remove the xxx to reply!