What does the Mechanic get
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
On 14 Jan 2004 22:11:40 GMT, Barry Bean <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote:
>"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in
>news:4005764b$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net:
>
>>
>> Well, that's not so in most dealerships. The tech gets paid when he
>> is working on a paying customer's automobile. Tech doesn't get paid
>> to clean the house, train the new guy, road test for hours to
>> duplicate an impossible concern, etc..
>
>I have never known a dealership mechanic who didn't simply draw a salary or
>hourly wage for the time he was at the dealership. Are you saying that the
>dealership mechanics you know are independent contractors who only get paid
>while they're actualy working on a customer vehicle?
>
>
I've worked for GM dealers for almost 20 years in 3 different states.
I've never in that time drawn a salary. It's all piecework. I get
paid so much per job based on the times allowed in the Motor Labor
time guide.
If I go up to the service drive, hook a scanner to your vehicle and
read the codes, I'm doing it for free unless there's a repair order
written ont he vehicle. That is why there is a minimum charge for
diagnostics.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
>"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in
>news:4005764b$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net:
>
>>
>> Well, that's not so in most dealerships. The tech gets paid when he
>> is working on a paying customer's automobile. Tech doesn't get paid
>> to clean the house, train the new guy, road test for hours to
>> duplicate an impossible concern, etc..
>
>I have never known a dealership mechanic who didn't simply draw a salary or
>hourly wage for the time he was at the dealership. Are you saying that the
>dealership mechanics you know are independent contractors who only get paid
>while they're actualy working on a customer vehicle?
>
>
I've worked for GM dealers for almost 20 years in 3 different states.
I've never in that time drawn a salary. It's all piecework. I get
paid so much per job based on the times allowed in the Motor Labor
time guide.
If I go up to the service drive, hook a scanner to your vehicle and
read the codes, I'm doing it for free unless there's a repair order
written ont he vehicle. That is why there is a minimum charge for
diagnostics.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
On 14 Jan 2004 22:11:40 GMT, Barry Bean <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote:
>"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in
>news:4005764b$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net:
>
>>
>> Well, that's not so in most dealerships. The tech gets paid when he
>> is working on a paying customer's automobile. Tech doesn't get paid
>> to clean the house, train the new guy, road test for hours to
>> duplicate an impossible concern, etc..
>
>I have never known a dealership mechanic who didn't simply draw a salary or
>hourly wage for the time he was at the dealership. Are you saying that the
>dealership mechanics you know are independent contractors who only get paid
>while they're actualy working on a customer vehicle?
>
>
I've worked for GM dealers for almost 20 years in 3 different states.
I've never in that time drawn a salary. It's all piecework. I get
paid so much per job based on the times allowed in the Motor Labor
time guide.
If I go up to the service drive, hook a scanner to your vehicle and
read the codes, I'm doing it for free unless there's a repair order
written ont he vehicle. That is why there is a minimum charge for
diagnostics.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
>"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in
>news:4005764b$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net:
>
>>
>> Well, that's not so in most dealerships. The tech gets paid when he
>> is working on a paying customer's automobile. Tech doesn't get paid
>> to clean the house, train the new guy, road test for hours to
>> duplicate an impossible concern, etc..
>
>I have never known a dealership mechanic who didn't simply draw a salary or
>hourly wage for the time he was at the dealership. Are you saying that the
>dealership mechanics you know are independent contractors who only get paid
>while they're actualy working on a customer vehicle?
>
>
I've worked for GM dealers for almost 20 years in 3 different states.
I've never in that time drawn a salary. It's all piecework. I get
paid so much per job based on the times allowed in the Motor Labor
time guide.
If I go up to the service drive, hook a scanner to your vehicle and
read the codes, I'm doing it for free unless there's a repair order
written ont he vehicle. That is why there is a minimum charge for
diagnostics.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You know, Nate, I wouldn't expect you to weld up a bumper for cheap.
> Why would you expect me to work on your car for cheap?
> I work from the flat rate book. What the book says the job should pay
> is what I get, whether or not I finish the job in the time the book
> gives.
hi wally,
read what ive said again. im not asking you to work for free or even
"cheap". im referencing gross abuse such as what i listed in the original
post that you responded to. ill quote it again below.
> >i feel sorry for
> >everyone with the triton v10 head out of warranty that had to pay for an
> >entire new head because the dealership was incapable of building up the
head
> >and tapping new plug threads or paying a machine shop to do it for them
(v10
> >was bad for blowing plugs out of their holes taking the threads with
them).
> >it happened on my brothers but he had an extended warranty. i feel bad
for
> >everyone whos paid $200 in labor costs to have an alternator swapped when
i
> >know one person that got theirs swapped and installed at autozone for
FREE
> >(labor).
you arent always paying for what someone does, youre paying for what they
know.......i realize this having worked in the service industry for much of
my adult life (both in the welding and hvac field). what you should never
pay for though, is inefficiency and ineptness.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:k6le0090nnho1p2tvlcbcarnfu1uvv2b4a@4ax.com...
> You know, Nate, I wouldn't expect you to weld up a bumper for cheap.
> Why would you expect me to work on your car for cheap?
> I work from the flat rate book. What the book says the job should pay
> is what I get, whether or not I finish the job in the time the book
> gives.
hi wally,
read what ive said again. im not asking you to work for free or even
"cheap". im referencing gross abuse such as what i listed in the original
post that you responded to. ill quote it again below.
> >i feel sorry for
> >everyone with the triton v10 head out of warranty that had to pay for an
> >entire new head because the dealership was incapable of building up the
head
> >and tapping new plug threads or paying a machine shop to do it for them
(v10
> >was bad for blowing plugs out of their holes taking the threads with
them).
> >it happened on my brothers but he had an extended warranty. i feel bad
for
> >everyone whos paid $200 in labor costs to have an alternator swapped when
i
> >know one person that got theirs swapped and installed at autozone for
FREE
> >(labor).
you arent always paying for what someone does, youre paying for what they
know.......i realize this having worked in the service industry for much of
my adult life (both in the welding and hvac field). what you should never
pay for though, is inefficiency and ineptness.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:k6le0090nnho1p2tvlcbcarnfu1uvv2b4a@4ax.com...
> You know, Nate, I wouldn't expect you to weld up a bumper for cheap.
> Why would you expect me to work on your car for cheap?
> I work from the flat rate book. What the book says the job should pay
> is what I get, whether or not I finish the job in the time the book
> gives.
hi wally,
read what ive said again. im not asking you to work for free or even
"cheap". im referencing gross abuse such as what i listed in the original
post that you responded to. ill quote it again below.
> >i feel sorry for
> >everyone with the triton v10 head out of warranty that had to pay for an
> >entire new head because the dealership was incapable of building up the
head
> >and tapping new plug threads or paying a machine shop to do it for them
(v10
> >was bad for blowing plugs out of their holes taking the threads with
them).
> >it happened on my brothers but he had an extended warranty. i feel bad
for
> >everyone whos paid $200 in labor costs to have an alternator swapped when
i
> >know one person that got theirs swapped and installed at autozone for
FREE
> >(labor).
you arent always paying for what someone does, youre paying for what they
know.......i realize this having worked in the service industry for much of
my adult life (both in the welding and hvac field). what you should never
pay for though, is inefficiency and ineptness.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:k6le0090nnho1p2tvlcbcarnfu1uvv2b4a@4ax.com...
> You know, Nate, I wouldn't expect you to weld up a bumper for cheap.
> Why would you expect me to work on your car for cheap?
> I work from the flat rate book. What the book says the job should pay
> is what I get, whether or not I finish the job in the time the book
> gives.
hi wally,
read what ive said again. im not asking you to work for free or even
"cheap". im referencing gross abuse such as what i listed in the original
post that you responded to. ill quote it again below.
> >i feel sorry for
> >everyone with the triton v10 head out of warranty that had to pay for an
> >entire new head because the dealership was incapable of building up the
head
> >and tapping new plug threads or paying a machine shop to do it for them
(v10
> >was bad for blowing plugs out of their holes taking the threads with
them).
> >it happened on my brothers but he had an extended warranty. i feel bad
for
> >everyone whos paid $200 in labor costs to have an alternator swapped when
i
> >know one person that got theirs swapped and installed at autozone for
FREE
> >(labor).
you arent always paying for what someone does, youre paying for what they
know.......i realize this having worked in the service industry for much of
my adult life (both in the welding and hvac field). what you should never
pay for though, is inefficiency and ineptness.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:k6le0090nnho1p2tvlcbcarnfu1uvv2b4a@4ax.com...
> You know, Nate, I wouldn't expect you to weld up a bumper for cheap.
> Why would you expect me to work on your car for cheap?
> I work from the flat rate book. What the book says the job should pay
> is what I get, whether or not I finish the job in the time the book
> gives.
hi wally,
read what ive said again. im not asking you to work for free or even
"cheap". im referencing gross abuse such as what i listed in the original
post that you responded to. ill quote it again below.
> >i feel sorry for
> >everyone with the triton v10 head out of warranty that had to pay for an
> >entire new head because the dealership was incapable of building up the
head
> >and tapping new plug threads or paying a machine shop to do it for them
(v10
> >was bad for blowing plugs out of their holes taking the threads with
them).
> >it happened on my brothers but he had an extended warranty. i feel bad
for
> >everyone whos paid $200 in labor costs to have an alternator swapped when
i
> >know one person that got theirs swapped and installed at autozone for
FREE
> >(labor).
you arent always paying for what someone does, youre paying for what they
know.......i realize this having worked in the service industry for much of
my adult life (both in the welding and hvac field). what you should never
pay for though, is inefficiency and ineptness.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:k6le0090nnho1p2tvlcbcarnfu1uvv2b4a@4ax.com...
> You know, Nate, I wouldn't expect you to weld up a bumper for cheap.
> Why would you expect me to work on your car for cheap?
> I work from the flat rate book. What the book says the job should pay
> is what I get, whether or not I finish the job in the time the book
> gives.
hi wally,
read what ive said again. im not asking you to work for free or even
"cheap". im referencing gross abuse such as what i listed in the original
post that you responded to. ill quote it again below.
> >i feel sorry for
> >everyone with the triton v10 head out of warranty that had to pay for an
> >entire new head because the dealership was incapable of building up the
head
> >and tapping new plug threads or paying a machine shop to do it for them
(v10
> >was bad for blowing plugs out of their holes taking the threads with
them).
> >it happened on my brothers but he had an extended warranty. i feel bad
for
> >everyone whos paid $200 in labor costs to have an alternator swapped when
i
> >know one person that got theirs swapped and installed at autozone for
FREE
> >(labor).
you arent always paying for what someone does, youre paying for what they
know.......i realize this having worked in the service industry for much of
my adult life (both in the welding and hvac field). what you should never
pay for though, is inefficiency and ineptness.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:40073392_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I also take personal responsibility for
> what I do.
i wish more shared our work ethic.
> And, of course, Nathan, I meant NET. What else is there?
bankruptcy. ;-)
i dont think we're all that different in our thinking or work ethic, we were
talking about the same issue from totally different angles. unless hes a
destructive idiot i have _far_ more respect for the tech in the pits than i
do the man in the office thats calling the shots.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:40073392_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I also take personal responsibility for
> what I do.
i wish more shared our work ethic.
> And, of course, Nathan, I meant NET. What else is there?
bankruptcy. ;-)
i dont think we're all that different in our thinking or work ethic, we were
talking about the same issue from totally different angles. unless hes a
destructive idiot i have _far_ more respect for the tech in the pits than i
do the man in the office thats calling the shots.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:40073392_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I also take personal responsibility for
> what I do.
i wish more shared our work ethic.
> And, of course, Nathan, I meant NET. What else is there?
bankruptcy. ;-)
i dont think we're all that different in our thinking or work ethic, we were
talking about the same issue from totally different angles. unless hes a
destructive idiot i have _far_ more respect for the tech in the pits than i
do the man in the office thats calling the shots.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:40073392_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I also take personal responsibility for
> what I do.
i wish more shared our work ethic.
> And, of course, Nathan, I meant NET. What else is there?
bankruptcy. ;-)
i dont think we're all that different in our thinking or work ethic, we were
talking about the same issue from totally different angles. unless hes a
destructive idiot i have _far_ more respect for the tech in the pits than i
do the man in the office thats calling the shots.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:40073392_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I also take personal responsibility for
> what I do.
i wish more shared our work ethic.
> And, of course, Nathan, I meant NET. What else is there?
bankruptcy. ;-)
i dont think we're all that different in our thinking or work ethic, we were
talking about the same issue from totally different angles. unless hes a
destructive idiot i have _far_ more respect for the tech in the pits than i
do the man in the office thats calling the shots.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:40073392_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I also take personal responsibility for
> what I do.
i wish more shared our work ethic.
> And, of course, Nathan, I meant NET. What else is there?
bankruptcy. ;-)
i dont think we're all that different in our thinking or work ethic, we were
talking about the same issue from totally different angles. unless hes a
destructive idiot i have _far_ more respect for the tech in the pits than i
do the man in the office thats calling the shots.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:37:38 GMT, "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>> >i feel sorry for
>> >everyone with the triton v10 head out of warranty that had to pay for an
>> >entire new head because the dealership was incapable of building up the
>head
>> >and tapping new plug threads or paying a machine shop to do it for them
>(v10
>> >was bad for blowing plugs out of their holes taking the threads with
>them).
Don't know much about Fords as I've worked for GM for the last 19
years, but I do know that sometimes GM comes down and tells us not to
repair something, but to replace the unit. This goes along with the
fact that I would do things to fix my own vehicles that I wouldn't do
to fix yours. I don't mind going to Auto Zone 4 times to get a good
alternator for my Jeep, but I sure wouldn't put one on yours and have
to stand behind it.
>> >it happened on my brothers but he had an extended warranty. i feel bad
>for
>> >everyone whos paid $200 in labor costs to have an alternator swapped when
>i
>> >know one person that got theirs swapped and installed at autozone for
>FREE
>> >(labor).
I feel like there's more to this than is being told. Most GM
alternators pay under an hour in the flat rate book.
I'd like to see AZ put an alternator on a Monte Carlo with the 3.4
DOHC motor for free...that one pays 4 hours as you have to practically
remove the motor to get to it.
>
>you arent always paying for what someone does, youre paying for what they
>know.......i realize this having worked in the service industry for much of
>my adult life (both in the welding and hvac field). what you should never
>pay for though, is inefficiency and ineptness.
Everybody is human. We all make mistakes(that's why they x-ray your
welds). When I make a mistake and the vehicle comes back, I have to
do the repair for free.
Now I don't know about you, but I don't like working for free, so I
tend to take my time, make sure the customer and I are on the same
wave length in regards to what's wrong with his/her car(a big part of
the problems most people have with repair facilities)and try to get
the thing fixed right the first time.
Whether you know it or not, GM tracks my performance(yes, GM, not just
the dealership)and the service manager gets a report every month as to
how I'm doing. This is the same for every GM dealer in the country.
In fact, if I was to move to another state, the guy at the dealership
that I apply to out there can access that info to decide if he wants
to hire me. That doesn't happen at Joe's Garage.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>> >i feel sorry for
>> >everyone with the triton v10 head out of warranty that had to pay for an
>> >entire new head because the dealership was incapable of building up the
>head
>> >and tapping new plug threads or paying a machine shop to do it for them
>(v10
>> >was bad for blowing plugs out of their holes taking the threads with
>them).
Don't know much about Fords as I've worked for GM for the last 19
years, but I do know that sometimes GM comes down and tells us not to
repair something, but to replace the unit. This goes along with the
fact that I would do things to fix my own vehicles that I wouldn't do
to fix yours. I don't mind going to Auto Zone 4 times to get a good
alternator for my Jeep, but I sure wouldn't put one on yours and have
to stand behind it.
>> >it happened on my brothers but he had an extended warranty. i feel bad
>for
>> >everyone whos paid $200 in labor costs to have an alternator swapped when
>i
>> >know one person that got theirs swapped and installed at autozone for
>FREE
>> >(labor).
I feel like there's more to this than is being told. Most GM
alternators pay under an hour in the flat rate book.
I'd like to see AZ put an alternator on a Monte Carlo with the 3.4
DOHC motor for free...that one pays 4 hours as you have to practically
remove the motor to get to it.
>
>you arent always paying for what someone does, youre paying for what they
>know.......i realize this having worked in the service industry for much of
>my adult life (both in the welding and hvac field). what you should never
>pay for though, is inefficiency and ineptness.
Everybody is human. We all make mistakes(that's why they x-ray your
welds). When I make a mistake and the vehicle comes back, I have to
do the repair for free.
Now I don't know about you, but I don't like working for free, so I
tend to take my time, make sure the customer and I are on the same
wave length in regards to what's wrong with his/her car(a big part of
the problems most people have with repair facilities)and try to get
the thing fixed right the first time.
Whether you know it or not, GM tracks my performance(yes, GM, not just
the dealership)and the service manager gets a report every month as to
how I'm doing. This is the same for every GM dealer in the country.
In fact, if I was to move to another state, the guy at the dealership
that I apply to out there can access that info to decide if he wants
to hire me. That doesn't happen at Joe's Garage.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:37:38 GMT, "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>> >i feel sorry for
>> >everyone with the triton v10 head out of warranty that had to pay for an
>> >entire new head because the dealership was incapable of building up the
>head
>> >and tapping new plug threads or paying a machine shop to do it for them
>(v10
>> >was bad for blowing plugs out of their holes taking the threads with
>them).
Don't know much about Fords as I've worked for GM for the last 19
years, but I do know that sometimes GM comes down and tells us not to
repair something, but to replace the unit. This goes along with the
fact that I would do things to fix my own vehicles that I wouldn't do
to fix yours. I don't mind going to Auto Zone 4 times to get a good
alternator for my Jeep, but I sure wouldn't put one on yours and have
to stand behind it.
>> >it happened on my brothers but he had an extended warranty. i feel bad
>for
>> >everyone whos paid $200 in labor costs to have an alternator swapped when
>i
>> >know one person that got theirs swapped and installed at autozone for
>FREE
>> >(labor).
I feel like there's more to this than is being told. Most GM
alternators pay under an hour in the flat rate book.
I'd like to see AZ put an alternator on a Monte Carlo with the 3.4
DOHC motor for free...that one pays 4 hours as you have to practically
remove the motor to get to it.
>
>you arent always paying for what someone does, youre paying for what they
>know.......i realize this having worked in the service industry for much of
>my adult life (both in the welding and hvac field). what you should never
>pay for though, is inefficiency and ineptness.
Everybody is human. We all make mistakes(that's why they x-ray your
welds). When I make a mistake and the vehicle comes back, I have to
do the repair for free.
Now I don't know about you, but I don't like working for free, so I
tend to take my time, make sure the customer and I are on the same
wave length in regards to what's wrong with his/her car(a big part of
the problems most people have with repair facilities)and try to get
the thing fixed right the first time.
Whether you know it or not, GM tracks my performance(yes, GM, not just
the dealership)and the service manager gets a report every month as to
how I'm doing. This is the same for every GM dealer in the country.
In fact, if I was to move to another state, the guy at the dealership
that I apply to out there can access that info to decide if he wants
to hire me. That doesn't happen at Joe's Garage.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>> >i feel sorry for
>> >everyone with the triton v10 head out of warranty that had to pay for an
>> >entire new head because the dealership was incapable of building up the
>head
>> >and tapping new plug threads or paying a machine shop to do it for them
>(v10
>> >was bad for blowing plugs out of their holes taking the threads with
>them).
Don't know much about Fords as I've worked for GM for the last 19
years, but I do know that sometimes GM comes down and tells us not to
repair something, but to replace the unit. This goes along with the
fact that I would do things to fix my own vehicles that I wouldn't do
to fix yours. I don't mind going to Auto Zone 4 times to get a good
alternator for my Jeep, but I sure wouldn't put one on yours and have
to stand behind it.
>> >it happened on my brothers but he had an extended warranty. i feel bad
>for
>> >everyone whos paid $200 in labor costs to have an alternator swapped when
>i
>> >know one person that got theirs swapped and installed at autozone for
>FREE
>> >(labor).
I feel like there's more to this than is being told. Most GM
alternators pay under an hour in the flat rate book.
I'd like to see AZ put an alternator on a Monte Carlo with the 3.4
DOHC motor for free...that one pays 4 hours as you have to practically
remove the motor to get to it.
>
>you arent always paying for what someone does, youre paying for what they
>know.......i realize this having worked in the service industry for much of
>my adult life (both in the welding and hvac field). what you should never
>pay for though, is inefficiency and ineptness.
Everybody is human. We all make mistakes(that's why they x-ray your
welds). When I make a mistake and the vehicle comes back, I have to
do the repair for free.
Now I don't know about you, but I don't like working for free, so I
tend to take my time, make sure the customer and I are on the same
wave length in regards to what's wrong with his/her car(a big part of
the problems most people have with repair facilities)and try to get
the thing fixed right the first time.
Whether you know it or not, GM tracks my performance(yes, GM, not just
the dealership)and the service manager gets a report every month as to
how I'm doing. This is the same for every GM dealer in the country.
In fact, if I was to move to another state, the guy at the dealership
that I apply to out there can access that info to decide if he wants
to hire me. That doesn't happen at Joe's Garage.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51