What does the Mechanic get
#301
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Re: What does the Mechanic get-abused by the customer
In <1lAVb.686$ss.22168@bcandid.telisphere.com> The Sweeney's wrote:
> The technician is not screwing the customer-and
> the dealer can not void a factory warranty. Warranties are usually
> restricted by the actions of the owner/operator by their conscious non-
> performance of maintenance or performing un-authorized modifications
> to the vehicle in direct conflict with the agreed to warranty contract
> between the Owner and the Manufacturer.
In case you missed it, in another thread "mic canic" was bragging (yes,
bragging) about how he called in a D-C (not the dealer, sorry, my bad)
representative and between the two of them conspired to have the
warranty on a customer's lifted vehicle restricted to emissions only.
This, despite the fact that the federal law regulating vehicle
warranties specifies that before denying warranty coverage for a vehicle
fault, the manufacturer must show that the fault was caused by the
modifications. And even if the manufacturer meets this burden of proof,
the warranty restrictions must be confined to the systems which were
modified. So in this case, while restricting the warranty on the
suspension, and *maybe* the drivetrain was justified, restricting the
entire warranty to emissions only is clearly excessive in addition to
being illegal. I fail to see how installing a lift should void the
coverage on the electrical system, paint finish, trim, interior, or any
other unrelated components. Unfortunately, the cost of fighting this in
court will most likely exceed the cost of any non-covered repairs to the
vehicle for the remainder of the warranty period, so the owner is just
plain SOL on account of "mic canic".
As for the warranty contract between the manufacturer and the vehicle
owner, it is regulated by and must be in compliance with the federal
warranty law. Also, there is no such thing as a modification which must
be authorized by the manufacturer.
Furthermore, voiding warranties is a bad policy strictly as a matter of
customer service. As a result of this episode, the dealer at which "mic
canic" works has been identified here and will presumably be avoided by
newsgroup regulars who live in that area, and deservedly so for having
allowed it to take place.
In contrast, the first time I took my Jeep to the dealer which now gets
all of my service and parts business, both the service manager and the
technician who did the work complimented me on my modified vehicle. The
work was covered under warranty with no questions asked.
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> The technician is not screwing the customer-and
> the dealer can not void a factory warranty. Warranties are usually
> restricted by the actions of the owner/operator by their conscious non-
> performance of maintenance or performing un-authorized modifications
> to the vehicle in direct conflict with the agreed to warranty contract
> between the Owner and the Manufacturer.
In case you missed it, in another thread "mic canic" was bragging (yes,
bragging) about how he called in a D-C (not the dealer, sorry, my bad)
representative and between the two of them conspired to have the
warranty on a customer's lifted vehicle restricted to emissions only.
This, despite the fact that the federal law regulating vehicle
warranties specifies that before denying warranty coverage for a vehicle
fault, the manufacturer must show that the fault was caused by the
modifications. And even if the manufacturer meets this burden of proof,
the warranty restrictions must be confined to the systems which were
modified. So in this case, while restricting the warranty on the
suspension, and *maybe* the drivetrain was justified, restricting the
entire warranty to emissions only is clearly excessive in addition to
being illegal. I fail to see how installing a lift should void the
coverage on the electrical system, paint finish, trim, interior, or any
other unrelated components. Unfortunately, the cost of fighting this in
court will most likely exceed the cost of any non-covered repairs to the
vehicle for the remainder of the warranty period, so the owner is just
plain SOL on account of "mic canic".
As for the warranty contract between the manufacturer and the vehicle
owner, it is regulated by and must be in compliance with the federal
warranty law. Also, there is no such thing as a modification which must
be authorized by the manufacturer.
Furthermore, voiding warranties is a bad policy strictly as a matter of
customer service. As a result of this episode, the dealer at which "mic
canic" works has been identified here and will presumably be avoided by
newsgroup regulars who live in that area, and deservedly so for having
allowed it to take place.
In contrast, the first time I took my Jeep to the dealer which now gets
all of my service and parts business, both the service manager and the
technician who did the work complimented me on my modified vehicle. The
work was covered under warranty with no questions asked.
----------------------------------------------------
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#302
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Re: What does the Mechanic get-abused by the customer
Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
shop.
His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
mechanic here on this newsgroup!
Mike
The Sweeney's wrote:
>
> Experience--that is that little factor that is acquired by expending a lot
> of time, effort and lost income.
>
> You are, in all cases, paying for what the "mic canic" knows as well as for
> what the "mic canic" does. Those tools you talk about. The "mic canic" has
> to purchase them also. A fair, size and quality, top and bottom box, the
> minimum needed to work in the field today, runs in the range of $2,500. The
> technician is not screwing the customer-and the dealer can not void a
> factory warranty. Warranties are usually restricted by the actions of the
> owner/operator by their conscious non-performance of maintenance or
> performing un-authorized modifications to the vehicle in direct conflict
> with the agreed to warranty contract between the Owner and the Manufacturer.
shop.
His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
mechanic here on this newsgroup!
Mike
The Sweeney's wrote:
>
> Experience--that is that little factor that is acquired by expending a lot
> of time, effort and lost income.
>
> You are, in all cases, paying for what the "mic canic" knows as well as for
> what the "mic canic" does. Those tools you talk about. The "mic canic" has
> to purchase them also. A fair, size and quality, top and bottom box, the
> minimum needed to work in the field today, runs in the range of $2,500. The
> technician is not screwing the customer-and the dealer can not void a
> factory warranty. Warranties are usually restricted by the actions of the
> owner/operator by their conscious non-performance of maintenance or
> performing un-authorized modifications to the vehicle in direct conflict
> with the agreed to warranty contract between the Owner and the Manufacturer.
#303
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Re: What does the Mechanic get-abused by the customer
Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
shop.
His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
mechanic here on this newsgroup!
Mike
The Sweeney's wrote:
>
> Experience--that is that little factor that is acquired by expending a lot
> of time, effort and lost income.
>
> You are, in all cases, paying for what the "mic canic" knows as well as for
> what the "mic canic" does. Those tools you talk about. The "mic canic" has
> to purchase them also. A fair, size and quality, top and bottom box, the
> minimum needed to work in the field today, runs in the range of $2,500. The
> technician is not screwing the customer-and the dealer can not void a
> factory warranty. Warranties are usually restricted by the actions of the
> owner/operator by their conscious non-performance of maintenance or
> performing un-authorized modifications to the vehicle in direct conflict
> with the agreed to warranty contract between the Owner and the Manufacturer.
shop.
His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
mechanic here on this newsgroup!
Mike
The Sweeney's wrote:
>
> Experience--that is that little factor that is acquired by expending a lot
> of time, effort and lost income.
>
> You are, in all cases, paying for what the "mic canic" knows as well as for
> what the "mic canic" does. Those tools you talk about. The "mic canic" has
> to purchase them also. A fair, size and quality, top and bottom box, the
> minimum needed to work in the field today, runs in the range of $2,500. The
> technician is not screwing the customer-and the dealer can not void a
> factory warranty. Warranties are usually restricted by the actions of the
> owner/operator by their conscious non-performance of maintenance or
> performing un-authorized modifications to the vehicle in direct conflict
> with the agreed to warranty contract between the Owner and the Manufacturer.
#304
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Re: What does the Mechanic get-abused by the customer
Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
shop.
His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
mechanic here on this newsgroup!
Mike
The Sweeney's wrote:
>
> Experience--that is that little factor that is acquired by expending a lot
> of time, effort and lost income.
>
> You are, in all cases, paying for what the "mic canic" knows as well as for
> what the "mic canic" does. Those tools you talk about. The "mic canic" has
> to purchase them also. A fair, size and quality, top and bottom box, the
> minimum needed to work in the field today, runs in the range of $2,500. The
> technician is not screwing the customer-and the dealer can not void a
> factory warranty. Warranties are usually restricted by the actions of the
> owner/operator by their conscious non-performance of maintenance or
> performing un-authorized modifications to the vehicle in direct conflict
> with the agreed to warranty contract between the Owner and the Manufacturer.
shop.
His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
mechanic here on this newsgroup!
Mike
The Sweeney's wrote:
>
> Experience--that is that little factor that is acquired by expending a lot
> of time, effort and lost income.
>
> You are, in all cases, paying for what the "mic canic" knows as well as for
> what the "mic canic" does. Those tools you talk about. The "mic canic" has
> to purchase them also. A fair, size and quality, top and bottom box, the
> minimum needed to work in the field today, runs in the range of $2,500. The
> technician is not screwing the customer-and the dealer can not void a
> factory warranty. Warranties are usually restricted by the actions of the
> owner/operator by their conscious non-performance of maintenance or
> performing un-authorized modifications to the vehicle in direct conflict
> with the agreed to warranty contract between the Owner and the Manufacturer.
#305
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Re: What does the Mechanic get-abused by the customer
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:26:50 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
>shop.
>
>His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
>---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
>they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
>
>'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
>and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
>dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
>
>And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
>mechanic here on this newsgroup!
I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
use on mic.
Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
truly enjoy what we do for a living.
I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
up over 20 years in the business.
I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
training before GM shut down the training center.
I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
paid to fix it).
However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
>shop.
>
>His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
>---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
>they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
>
>'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
>and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
>dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
>
>And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
>mechanic here on this newsgroup!
I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
use on mic.
Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
truly enjoy what we do for a living.
I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
up over 20 years in the business.
I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
training before GM shut down the training center.
I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
paid to fix it).
However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
#306
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Re: What does the Mechanic get-abused by the customer
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:26:50 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
>shop.
>
>His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
>---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
>they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
>
>'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
>and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
>dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
>
>And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
>mechanic here on this newsgroup!
I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
use on mic.
Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
truly enjoy what we do for a living.
I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
up over 20 years in the business.
I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
training before GM shut down the training center.
I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
paid to fix it).
However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
>shop.
>
>His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
>---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
>they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
>
>'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
>and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
>dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
>
>And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
>mechanic here on this newsgroup!
I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
use on mic.
Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
truly enjoy what we do for a living.
I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
up over 20 years in the business.
I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
training before GM shut down the training center.
I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
paid to fix it).
However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
#307
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Re: What does the Mechanic get-abused by the customer
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:26:50 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
>shop.
>
>His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
>---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
>they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
>
>'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
>and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
>dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
>
>And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
>mechanic here on this newsgroup!
I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
use on mic.
Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
truly enjoy what we do for a living.
I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
up over 20 years in the business.
I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
training before GM shut down the training center.
I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
paid to fix it).
However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
>shop.
>
>His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
>---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
>they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
>
>'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
>and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
>dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
>
>And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
>mechanic here on this newsgroup!
I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
use on mic.
Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
truly enjoy what we do for a living.
I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
up over 20 years in the business.
I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
training before GM shut down the training center.
I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
paid to fix it).
However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
#308
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Re: What does the Mechanic get-abused by the customer
Old Crow wrote:
>
> On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:26:50 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
> >shop.
> >
> >His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
> >---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
> >they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
> >
> >'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
> >and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
> >dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
> >
> >And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
> >mechanic here on this newsgroup!
>
> I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
> use on mic.
>
> Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
> truly enjoy what we do for a living.
>
> I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
> up over 20 years in the business.
>
> I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
> time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
> courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
> training before GM shut down the training center.
>
> I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
> your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
> air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
> or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
> mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
> paid to fix it).
>
> However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
> wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
>
> --
> Old Crow
There are good and decent mechanics or technicians out there, however
they seem to be getting fewer and fewer.
Guys like mic chanic are one of the main reasons I post here. So folks
can get a half way educated guess on a fix without having to get burned
by guys like that.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:26:50 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
> >shop.
> >
> >His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
> >---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
> >they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
> >
> >'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
> >and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
> >dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
> >
> >And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
> >mechanic here on this newsgroup!
>
> I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
> use on mic.
>
> Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
> truly enjoy what we do for a living.
>
> I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
> up over 20 years in the business.
>
> I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
> time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
> courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
> training before GM shut down the training center.
>
> I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
> your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
> air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
> or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
> mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
> paid to fix it).
>
> However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
> wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
>
> --
> Old Crow
There are good and decent mechanics or technicians out there, however
they seem to be getting fewer and fewer.
Guys like mic chanic are one of the main reasons I post here. So folks
can get a half way educated guess on a fix without having to get burned
by guys like that.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#309
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Re: What does the Mechanic get-abused by the customer
Old Crow wrote:
>
> On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:26:50 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
> >shop.
> >
> >His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
> >---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
> >they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
> >
> >'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
> >and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
> >dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
> >
> >And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
> >mechanic here on this newsgroup!
>
> I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
> use on mic.
>
> Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
> truly enjoy what we do for a living.
>
> I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
> up over 20 years in the business.
>
> I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
> time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
> courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
> training before GM shut down the training center.
>
> I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
> your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
> air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
> or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
> mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
> paid to fix it).
>
> However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
> wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
>
> --
> Old Crow
There are good and decent mechanics or technicians out there, however
they seem to be getting fewer and fewer.
Guys like mic chanic are one of the main reasons I post here. So folks
can get a half way educated guess on a fix without having to get burned
by guys like that.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:26:50 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
> >shop.
> >
> >His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
> >---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
> >they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
> >
> >'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
> >and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
> >dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
> >
> >And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
> >mechanic here on this newsgroup!
>
> I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
> use on mic.
>
> Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
> truly enjoy what we do for a living.
>
> I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
> up over 20 years in the business.
>
> I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
> time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
> courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
> training before GM shut down the training center.
>
> I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
> your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
> air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
> or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
> mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
> paid to fix it).
>
> However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
> wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
>
> --
> Old Crow
There are good and decent mechanics or technicians out there, however
they seem to be getting fewer and fewer.
Guys like mic chanic are one of the main reasons I post here. So folks
can get a half way educated guess on a fix without having to get burned
by guys like that.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#310
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Posts: n/a
Re: What does the Mechanic get-abused by the customer
Old Crow wrote:
>
> On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:26:50 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
> >shop.
> >
> >His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
> >---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
> >they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
> >
> >'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
> >and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
> >dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
> >
> >And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
> >mechanic here on this newsgroup!
>
> I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
> use on mic.
>
> Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
> truly enjoy what we do for a living.
>
> I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
> up over 20 years in the business.
>
> I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
> time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
> courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
> training before GM shut down the training center.
>
> I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
> your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
> air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
> or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
> mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
> paid to fix it).
>
> However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
> wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
>
> --
> Old Crow
There are good and decent mechanics or technicians out there, however
they seem to be getting fewer and fewer.
Guys like mic chanic are one of the main reasons I post here. So folks
can get a half way educated guess on a fix without having to get burned
by guys like that.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:26:50 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Well his 'experience' turned the last place he worked at into a bankrupt
> >shop.
> >
> >His 'experience' at ripping off customers and trying to get them into
> >---- with the manufacturer as well as ripping them off by telling them
> >they have to pay for recall work makes all mechanics look bad.
> >
> >'He' and people like him are one of the main reasons most folks run fast
> >and far from dealers as soon as the warranty has expired or go to other
> >dealers because his shop gets known as the rip off place.
> >
> >And then the ------- has the ***** to brag about being a sleaze bag
> >mechanic here on this newsgroup!
>
> I hope you don't paint all technicians with the same paintbrush you
> use on mic.
>
> Some of us are mature, hard working and dedicated individuals who
> truly enjoy what we do for a living.
>
> I have in the vicinity of $28k invested in my tools which I've built
> up over 20 years in the business.
>
> I spend at least one or two evenings a month doing training on my own
> time as well as time spent at the dealership doing distance learning
> courses. I used to spend at least a day a month in Memphis doing
> training before GM shut down the training center.
>
> I don't need to rip you off or sell you something you don't need on
> your vehicle to make my living. However, if I've got it raised in the
> air for an oil change and I notice that your brakes are getting thin
> or your tranny is leaking, then I'll let you know, hopefully to our
> mutual benefit(it won't break on you out in the woods, and I'll get
> paid to fix it).
>
> However, my take on mic chanic is about the same as yours, and I
> wouldn't take my lawn mower to him, much less my Jeep.
>
> --
> Old Crow
There are good and decent mechanics or technicians out there, however
they seem to be getting fewer and fewer.
Guys like mic chanic are one of the main reasons I post here. So folks
can get a half way educated guess on a fix without having to get burned
by guys like that.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's