What does the Mechanic get
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
And you must be of Latino decent, for Vista Sanitation.
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Paul Calman wrote:
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> About $4200 per month,
> http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfi...nts/ASO_NP.pdf
> Entry-level sanitation truck drivers in Los Angeles earn $38,169,
> http://65.167.130.114/updates/010202up.htm
>
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> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
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Paul Calman wrote:
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> About $4200 per month,
> http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfi...nts/ASO_NP.pdf
> Entry-level sanitation truck drivers in Los Angeles earn $38,169,
> http://65.167.130.114/updates/010202up.htm
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> <COLLIDE13@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
And you must be of Latino decent, for Vista Sanitation.
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Paul Calman wrote:
>
> About $4200 per month,
> http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfi...nts/ASO_NP.pdf
> Entry-level sanitation truck drivers in Los Angeles earn $38,169,
> http://65.167.130.114/updates/010202up.htm
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> <COLLIDE13@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Paul Calman wrote:
>
> About $4200 per month,
> http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfi...nts/ASO_NP.pdf
> Entry-level sanitation truck drivers in Los Angeles earn $38,169,
> http://65.167.130.114/updates/010202up.htm
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> <COLLIDE13@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
And you must be of Latino decent, for Vista Sanitation.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Paul Calman wrote:
>
> About $4200 per month,
> http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfi...nts/ASO_NP.pdf
> Entry-level sanitation truck drivers in Los Angeles earn $38,169,
> http://65.167.130.114/updates/010202up.htm
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> <COLLIDE13@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Paul Calman wrote:
>
> About $4200 per month,
> http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfi...nts/ASO_NP.pdf
> Entry-level sanitation truck drivers in Los Angeles earn $38,169,
> http://65.167.130.114/updates/010202up.htm
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> <COLLIDE13@webtv.net> wrote in message
#134
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 13:07, Nathan Collier's monkeys randomly typed:
> i cant see how knowing how to do something justifies sticking it to those
> who dont.
I dunno. Why *should* someone who spends the years and time
and effort learning something in great detail be willing to
give away all of this effort to someone not willing to make
the same sacrifices?
> im lucky in two ways....i rarely keep a new vehicle much more
> than a year so im always under warranty, and there is no vehicular repair i
> cant do myself anyway.
I tend to keep mine for decades, and discover that the older I get,
the less fun the next coupla days after crawling around under the
vehicle can be. The old back muscles have a bad habit of suggesting
that someone else may be a bit more spry. Plus, I honestly don't
have the time to do much more than a 1-2 hour repair any more...and
my time is far more expensive than even the highest priced dealer.
Granted, it is extremely useful to know how to make your own repairs,
not only out on the trail, but also in having discussions with
the folks who may actually do the repairs.
> i cant see how knowing how to do something justifies sticking it to those
> who dont.
I dunno. Why *should* someone who spends the years and time
and effort learning something in great detail be willing to
give away all of this effort to someone not willing to make
the same sacrifices?
> im lucky in two ways....i rarely keep a new vehicle much more
> than a year so im always under warranty, and there is no vehicular repair i
> cant do myself anyway.
I tend to keep mine for decades, and discover that the older I get,
the less fun the next coupla days after crawling around under the
vehicle can be. The old back muscles have a bad habit of suggesting
that someone else may be a bit more spry. Plus, I honestly don't
have the time to do much more than a 1-2 hour repair any more...and
my time is far more expensive than even the highest priced dealer.
Granted, it is extremely useful to know how to make your own repairs,
not only out on the trail, but also in having discussions with
the folks who may actually do the repairs.
#135
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 13:07, Nathan Collier's monkeys randomly typed:
> i cant see how knowing how to do something justifies sticking it to those
> who dont.
I dunno. Why *should* someone who spends the years and time
and effort learning something in great detail be willing to
give away all of this effort to someone not willing to make
the same sacrifices?
> im lucky in two ways....i rarely keep a new vehicle much more
> than a year so im always under warranty, and there is no vehicular repair i
> cant do myself anyway.
I tend to keep mine for decades, and discover that the older I get,
the less fun the next coupla days after crawling around under the
vehicle can be. The old back muscles have a bad habit of suggesting
that someone else may be a bit more spry. Plus, I honestly don't
have the time to do much more than a 1-2 hour repair any more...and
my time is far more expensive than even the highest priced dealer.
Granted, it is extremely useful to know how to make your own repairs,
not only out on the trail, but also in having discussions with
the folks who may actually do the repairs.
> i cant see how knowing how to do something justifies sticking it to those
> who dont.
I dunno. Why *should* someone who spends the years and time
and effort learning something in great detail be willing to
give away all of this effort to someone not willing to make
the same sacrifices?
> im lucky in two ways....i rarely keep a new vehicle much more
> than a year so im always under warranty, and there is no vehicular repair i
> cant do myself anyway.
I tend to keep mine for decades, and discover that the older I get,
the less fun the next coupla days after crawling around under the
vehicle can be. The old back muscles have a bad habit of suggesting
that someone else may be a bit more spry. Plus, I honestly don't
have the time to do much more than a 1-2 hour repair any more...and
my time is far more expensive than even the highest priced dealer.
Granted, it is extremely useful to know how to make your own repairs,
not only out on the trail, but also in having discussions with
the folks who may actually do the repairs.
#136
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 13:07, Nathan Collier's monkeys randomly typed:
> i cant see how knowing how to do something justifies sticking it to those
> who dont.
I dunno. Why *should* someone who spends the years and time
and effort learning something in great detail be willing to
give away all of this effort to someone not willing to make
the same sacrifices?
> im lucky in two ways....i rarely keep a new vehicle much more
> than a year so im always under warranty, and there is no vehicular repair i
> cant do myself anyway.
I tend to keep mine for decades, and discover that the older I get,
the less fun the next coupla days after crawling around under the
vehicle can be. The old back muscles have a bad habit of suggesting
that someone else may be a bit more spry. Plus, I honestly don't
have the time to do much more than a 1-2 hour repair any more...and
my time is far more expensive than even the highest priced dealer.
Granted, it is extremely useful to know how to make your own repairs,
not only out on the trail, but also in having discussions with
the folks who may actually do the repairs.
> i cant see how knowing how to do something justifies sticking it to those
> who dont.
I dunno. Why *should* someone who spends the years and time
and effort learning something in great detail be willing to
give away all of this effort to someone not willing to make
the same sacrifices?
> im lucky in two ways....i rarely keep a new vehicle much more
> than a year so im always under warranty, and there is no vehicular repair i
> cant do myself anyway.
I tend to keep mine for decades, and discover that the older I get,
the less fun the next coupla days after crawling around under the
vehicle can be. The old back muscles have a bad habit of suggesting
that someone else may be a bit more spry. Plus, I honestly don't
have the time to do much more than a 1-2 hour repair any more...and
my time is far more expensive than even the highest priced dealer.
Granted, it is extremely useful to know how to make your own repairs,
not only out on the trail, but also in having discussions with
the folks who may actually do the repairs.
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 10:41, Paul Calman's monkeys randomly typed:
>> a well known ripoff place, and did our best to limit our
>> involvement to getting the customer from Green River to
>> their normal mechanic in one piece.
>
> Green River? Nice town, interesting cemetary. I spent 2 days there last
> August
What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
Personally I always preferred Green River to Moab. Too many would
be offroad racers over by Moab leaving !@#$!@#$ black marks on
the rocks. And Green River had Ray's Tavern which was pretty
homey until CR got killed on the Colorado.
Plus I could get a discount on my tires, car parts, propane gas,
welding, etc. by working for my landlord part time at his gas/service
station when I was at the missile base.
>> a well known ripoff place, and did our best to limit our
>> involvement to getting the customer from Green River to
>> their normal mechanic in one piece.
>
> Green River? Nice town, interesting cemetary. I spent 2 days there last
> August
What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
Personally I always preferred Green River to Moab. Too many would
be offroad racers over by Moab leaving !@#$!@#$ black marks on
the rocks. And Green River had Ray's Tavern which was pretty
homey until CR got killed on the Colorado.
Plus I could get a discount on my tires, car parts, propane gas,
welding, etc. by working for my landlord part time at his gas/service
station when I was at the missile base.
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 10:41, Paul Calman's monkeys randomly typed:
>> a well known ripoff place, and did our best to limit our
>> involvement to getting the customer from Green River to
>> their normal mechanic in one piece.
>
> Green River? Nice town, interesting cemetary. I spent 2 days there last
> August
What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
Personally I always preferred Green River to Moab. Too many would
be offroad racers over by Moab leaving !@#$!@#$ black marks on
the rocks. And Green River had Ray's Tavern which was pretty
homey until CR got killed on the Colorado.
Plus I could get a discount on my tires, car parts, propane gas,
welding, etc. by working for my landlord part time at his gas/service
station when I was at the missile base.
>> a well known ripoff place, and did our best to limit our
>> involvement to getting the customer from Green River to
>> their normal mechanic in one piece.
>
> Green River? Nice town, interesting cemetary. I spent 2 days there last
> August
What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
Personally I always preferred Green River to Moab. Too many would
be offroad racers over by Moab leaving !@#$!@#$ black marks on
the rocks. And Green River had Ray's Tavern which was pretty
homey until CR got killed on the Colorado.
Plus I could get a discount on my tires, car parts, propane gas,
welding, etc. by working for my landlord part time at his gas/service
station when I was at the missile base.
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 10:41, Paul Calman's monkeys randomly typed:
>> a well known ripoff place, and did our best to limit our
>> involvement to getting the customer from Green River to
>> their normal mechanic in one piece.
>
> Green River? Nice town, interesting cemetary. I spent 2 days there last
> August
What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
Personally I always preferred Green River to Moab. Too many would
be offroad racers over by Moab leaving !@#$!@#$ black marks on
the rocks. And Green River had Ray's Tavern which was pretty
homey until CR got killed on the Colorado.
Plus I could get a discount on my tires, car parts, propane gas,
welding, etc. by working for my landlord part time at his gas/service
station when I was at the missile base.
>> a well known ripoff place, and did our best to limit our
>> involvement to getting the customer from Green River to
>> their normal mechanic in one piece.
>
> Green River? Nice town, interesting cemetary. I spent 2 days there last
> August
What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
Personally I always preferred Green River to Moab. Too many would
be offroad racers over by Moab leaving !@#$!@#$ black marks on
the rocks. And Green River had Ray's Tavern which was pretty
homey until CR got killed on the Colorado.
Plus I could get a discount on my tires, car parts, propane gas,
welding, etc. by working for my landlord part time at his gas/service
station when I was at the missile base.
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 14:16, Will Honea's monkeys randomly typed:
> You have to remember that I'm talking about ancient history - 50s and
> 60s when many service stations were as much about repair as anything
> else. My FIL had a contract to maintain the curtesy fleet for a big
> hotel and was not the least bit bashful about sending work to other
> shops if he felt they could do a better job. There were 6-8 stations
> in the general area that had specialties and mechanics (not
> technicians) who had been with them for years. You don't see that any
> more, but those were simpler times as well.
Different for lotsa reasons. Lotsa GI's coming home with good
mechanical skills. Or just hot rodders getting good training in
Vo-Tech high school courses. Plus a strong preference for
being your own boss even if it meant a bit of financial sacrifice.
And the cars were a heck of a lot simpler. Even then tho,
I used to get referrals as not more than a part time gas
station monkey for electrical stuff, because all the other stations
in Green River knew that I really designed radar control systems and
analog computers for a living.
And lotsa computer service companies used to recruit heavily from
motor monkeys, as it was far easier to teach electronics than it
was to teach good mechanical troubleshooting skills. Some of this
went away as the mechanical printers and such evolved into
microprocessor controlled stuff, but even then it was easier to
teach electronics and programming than mechanical skills. Some
folks just shouldn't be allowed to own screwdrivers.
> You have to remember that I'm talking about ancient history - 50s and
> 60s when many service stations were as much about repair as anything
> else. My FIL had a contract to maintain the curtesy fleet for a big
> hotel and was not the least bit bashful about sending work to other
> shops if he felt they could do a better job. There were 6-8 stations
> in the general area that had specialties and mechanics (not
> technicians) who had been with them for years. You don't see that any
> more, but those were simpler times as well.
Different for lotsa reasons. Lotsa GI's coming home with good
mechanical skills. Or just hot rodders getting good training in
Vo-Tech high school courses. Plus a strong preference for
being your own boss even if it meant a bit of financial sacrifice.
And the cars were a heck of a lot simpler. Even then tho,
I used to get referrals as not more than a part time gas
station monkey for electrical stuff, because all the other stations
in Green River knew that I really designed radar control systems and
analog computers for a living.
And lotsa computer service companies used to recruit heavily from
motor monkeys, as it was far easier to teach electronics than it
was to teach good mechanical troubleshooting skills. Some of this
went away as the mechanical printers and such evolved into
microprocessor controlled stuff, but even then it was easier to
teach electronics and programming than mechanical skills. Some
folks just shouldn't be allowed to own screwdrivers.