Oil Pressure Hits Zero And Stays There- JGC '96
#171
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Re: Oil Pressure Hits Zero And Stays There- JGC '96
>I might add here that a superior filter would be worth some extra cost
>but the superior filters are less expensive than Fram as well.
Good point; I can't see using a lesser-quality filter that costs more.
I can't see using a lesser-quality filter for any price, for that
matter. I've had actual engine failure from junk filters; just bad luck
maybe. I also had a a Fram PCV valve come apart once, dropping pieces
of plastic, a spring and a steel plunger down into the overhead
valvetrain assembly; found most of it after pulling the cover, and the
rest ended up in the oil filter. Had to sweat another plugged oil
passage from that wonderful little incident as well. Nope, nononono, no
more Fram-anything for me, ever.
>but the superior filters are less expensive than Fram as well.
Good point; I can't see using a lesser-quality filter that costs more.
I can't see using a lesser-quality filter for any price, for that
matter. I've had actual engine failure from junk filters; just bad luck
maybe. I also had a a Fram PCV valve come apart once, dropping pieces
of plastic, a spring and a steel plunger down into the overhead
valvetrain assembly; found most of it after pulling the cover, and the
rest ended up in the oil filter. Had to sweat another plugged oil
passage from that wonderful little incident as well. Nope, nononono, no
more Fram-anything for me, ever.
#172
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Re: Oil Pressure Hits Zero And Stays There- JGC '96
>I might add here that a superior filter would be worth some extra cost
>but the superior filters are less expensive than Fram as well.
Good point; I can't see using a lesser-quality filter that costs more.
I can't see using a lesser-quality filter for any price, for that
matter. I've had actual engine failure from junk filters; just bad luck
maybe. I also had a a Fram PCV valve come apart once, dropping pieces
of plastic, a spring and a steel plunger down into the overhead
valvetrain assembly; found most of it after pulling the cover, and the
rest ended up in the oil filter. Had to sweat another plugged oil
passage from that wonderful little incident as well. Nope, nononono, no
more Fram-anything for me, ever.
>but the superior filters are less expensive than Fram as well.
Good point; I can't see using a lesser-quality filter that costs more.
I can't see using a lesser-quality filter for any price, for that
matter. I've had actual engine failure from junk filters; just bad luck
maybe. I also had a a Fram PCV valve come apart once, dropping pieces
of plastic, a spring and a steel plunger down into the overhead
valvetrain assembly; found most of it after pulling the cover, and the
rest ended up in the oil filter. Had to sweat another plugged oil
passage from that wonderful little incident as well. Nope, nononono, no
more Fram-anything for me, ever.
#173
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Re: Oil Pressure Hits Zero And Stays There- JGC '96
I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
Filters.
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
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-snip-
This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
> filters weren't worth using either.
Filters.
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:6dKdnWWDKvFe4a_YnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
-snip-
This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
> filters weren't worth using either.
#174
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Re: Oil Pressure Hits Zero And Stays There- JGC '96
I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
Filters.
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:6dKdnWWDKvFe4a_YnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
-snip-
This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
> filters weren't worth using either.
Filters.
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:6dKdnWWDKvFe4a_YnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
-snip-
This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
> filters weren't worth using either.
#175
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Re: Oil Pressure Hits Zero And Stays There- JGC '96
I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
Filters.
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:6dKdnWWDKvFe4a_YnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
-snip-
This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
> filters weren't worth using either.
Filters.
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:6dKdnWWDKvFe4a_YnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
-snip-
This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
> filters weren't worth using either.
#176
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Re: Oil Pressure Hits Zero And Stays There- JGC '96
billy ray wrote:
> I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
> Filters.
I've had no probem with fram air filters. Lots of dust and none of
it got into the intake. I'll take fram AF over the high-flow oiled
types any day.
> "Outatime" wrote ...
> -snip-
> This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
>> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
>> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
>> filters weren't worth using either.
> I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
> Filters.
I've had no probem with fram air filters. Lots of dust and none of
it got into the intake. I'll take fram AF over the high-flow oiled
types any day.
> "Outatime" wrote ...
> -snip-
> This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
>> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
>> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
>> filters weren't worth using either.
#177
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Re: Oil Pressure Hits Zero And Stays There- JGC '96
billy ray wrote:
> I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
> Filters.
I've had no probem with fram air filters. Lots of dust and none of
it got into the intake. I'll take fram AF over the high-flow oiled
types any day.
> "Outatime" wrote ...
> -snip-
> This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
>> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
>> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
>> filters weren't worth using either.
> I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
> Filters.
I've had no probem with fram air filters. Lots of dust and none of
it got into the intake. I'll take fram AF over the high-flow oiled
types any day.
> "Outatime" wrote ...
> -snip-
> This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
>> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
>> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
>> filters weren't worth using either.
#178
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Re: Oil Pressure Hits Zero And Stays There- JGC '96
billy ray wrote:
> I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
> Filters.
I've had no probem with fram air filters. Lots of dust and none of
it got into the intake. I'll take fram AF over the high-flow oiled
types any day.
> "Outatime" wrote ...
> -snip-
> This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
>> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
>> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
>> filters weren't worth using either.
> I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
> Filters.
I've had no probem with fram air filters. Lots of dust and none of
it got into the intake. I'll take fram AF over the high-flow oiled
types any day.
> "Outatime" wrote ...
> -snip-
> This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
>> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
>> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
>> filters weren't worth using either.
#179
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Re: Oil Pressure Hits Zero And Stays There- JGC '96
I remember an air filter comparison done in a car mag a long time ago. The
Fram filters showed the most restriction of all of the filters tested, but
also showed that they trapped more dirt. It's an obvious trade off. There
will be situations where a better filter exists (such as racing), but for a
dusty environment, the Fram was shown to offer the best protection, which is
what this thread seems to be about. ;-)
Chris
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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>I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
>Filters.
>
>
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:6dKdnWWDKvFe4a_YnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> -snip-
> This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
>> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
>> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
>> filters weren't worth using either.
>
>
Fram filters showed the most restriction of all of the filters tested, but
also showed that they trapped more dirt. It's an obvious trade off. There
will be situations where a better filter exists (such as racing), but for a
dusty environment, the Fram was shown to offer the best protection, which is
what this thread seems to be about. ;-)
Chris
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:e762$45329a2b$422afc51$16295@FUSE.NET...
>I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
>Filters.
>
>
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:6dKdnWWDKvFe4a_YnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> -snip-
> This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
>> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
>> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
>> filters weren't worth using either.
>
>
#180
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Re: Oil Pressure Hits Zero And Stays There- JGC '96
I remember an air filter comparison done in a car mag a long time ago. The
Fram filters showed the most restriction of all of the filters tested, but
also showed that they trapped more dirt. It's an obvious trade off. There
will be situations where a better filter exists (such as racing), but for a
dusty environment, the Fram was shown to offer the best protection, which is
what this thread seems to be about. ;-)
Chris
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:e762$45329a2b$422afc51$16295@FUSE.NET...
>I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
>Filters.
>
>
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:6dKdnWWDKvFe4a_YnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> -snip-
> This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
>> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
>> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
>> filters weren't worth using either.
>
>
Fram filters showed the most restriction of all of the filters tested, but
also showed that they trapped more dirt. It's an obvious trade off. There
will be situations where a better filter exists (such as racing), but for a
dusty environment, the Fram was shown to offer the best protection, which is
what this thread seems to be about. ;-)
Chris
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:e762$45329a2b$422afc51$16295@FUSE.NET...
>I think this is the first time I've heard anything bad about Fram Air
>Filters.
>
>
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:6dKdnWWDKvFe4a_YnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> -snip-
> This time around, I hired a mechanic to find out WTH
>> it was; he blamed the oil filter, and said Fram had changed hands and
>> their products were now something to avoid. FWIW, he said their air
>> filters weren't worth using either.
>
>