Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
#251
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
LOL
If they last till the warranty expires you mean?
Refinish King
PS
I managed a Dodge/Chrysler/jeep body shop and helped the inept service
manager in service. So I know first hand of the Dakota 4Wd differential
failures that Mopar wouldn't cover, and all of their wonderful business
philosophies.
Sincerely,
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554ed4568c81d39898ce@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com>,
> noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com says...
> > A clearer definition of flat rate:
> >
> > If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
arbitrary
> > figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it
comes
> > back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
warranty
> > time.
> >
> > Guess what? you fix it for free!
> >
> > So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
want
> > working on your car!
> >
> > Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced
technicians
> > or butchers on flat rate!
> >
> > The End.
> >
> > Refinish King
>
> Jeeps don't start to fall apart until the day after the warranty
> expires.
>
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
If they last till the warranty expires you mean?
Refinish King
PS
I managed a Dodge/Chrysler/jeep body shop and helped the inept service
manager in service. So I know first hand of the Dakota 4Wd differential
failures that Mopar wouldn't cover, and all of their wonderful business
philosophies.
Sincerely,
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554ed4568c81d39898ce@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com>,
> noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com says...
> > A clearer definition of flat rate:
> >
> > If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
arbitrary
> > figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it
comes
> > back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
warranty
> > time.
> >
> > Guess what? you fix it for free!
> >
> > So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
want
> > working on your car!
> >
> > Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced
technicians
> > or butchers on flat rate!
> >
> > The End.
> >
> > Refinish King
>
> Jeeps don't start to fall apart until the day after the warranty
> expires.
>
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
#252
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
LOL
If they last till the warranty expires you mean?
Refinish King
PS
I managed a Dodge/Chrysler/jeep body shop and helped the inept service
manager in service. So I know first hand of the Dakota 4Wd differential
failures that Mopar wouldn't cover, and all of their wonderful business
philosophies.
Sincerely,
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554ed4568c81d39898ce@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com>,
> noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com says...
> > A clearer definition of flat rate:
> >
> > If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
arbitrary
> > figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it
comes
> > back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
warranty
> > time.
> >
> > Guess what? you fix it for free!
> >
> > So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
want
> > working on your car!
> >
> > Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced
technicians
> > or butchers on flat rate!
> >
> > The End.
> >
> > Refinish King
>
> Jeeps don't start to fall apart until the day after the warranty
> expires.
>
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
If they last till the warranty expires you mean?
Refinish King
PS
I managed a Dodge/Chrysler/jeep body shop and helped the inept service
manager in service. So I know first hand of the Dakota 4Wd differential
failures that Mopar wouldn't cover, and all of their wonderful business
philosophies.
Sincerely,
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554ed4568c81d39898ce@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com>,
> noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com says...
> > A clearer definition of flat rate:
> >
> > If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
arbitrary
> > figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it
comes
> > back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
warranty
> > time.
> >
> > Guess what? you fix it for free!
> >
> > So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
want
> > working on your car!
> >
> > Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced
technicians
> > or butchers on flat rate!
> >
> > The End.
> >
> > Refinish King
>
> Jeeps don't start to fall apart until the day after the warranty
> expires.
>
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
#253
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
LOL
If they last till the warranty expires you mean?
Refinish King
PS
I managed a Dodge/Chrysler/jeep body shop and helped the inept service
manager in service. So I know first hand of the Dakota 4Wd differential
failures that Mopar wouldn't cover, and all of their wonderful business
philosophies.
Sincerely,
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554ed4568c81d39898ce@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com>,
> noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com says...
> > A clearer definition of flat rate:
> >
> > If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
arbitrary
> > figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it
comes
> > back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
warranty
> > time.
> >
> > Guess what? you fix it for free!
> >
> > So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
want
> > working on your car!
> >
> > Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced
technicians
> > or butchers on flat rate!
> >
> > The End.
> >
> > Refinish King
>
> Jeeps don't start to fall apart until the day after the warranty
> expires.
>
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
If they last till the warranty expires you mean?
Refinish King
PS
I managed a Dodge/Chrysler/jeep body shop and helped the inept service
manager in service. So I know first hand of the Dakota 4Wd differential
failures that Mopar wouldn't cover, and all of their wonderful business
philosophies.
Sincerely,
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554ed4568c81d39898ce@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <xdqGc.6191$PO3.1875@fe39.usenetserver.com>,
> noneofyourbusiness@mindyourbusiness.com says...
> > A clearer definition of flat rate:
> >
> > If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an
arbitrary
> > figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it
comes
> > back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted
warranty
> > time.
> >
> > Guess what? you fix it for free!
> >
> > So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you
want
> > working on your car!
> >
> > Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced
technicians
> > or butchers on flat rate!
> >
> > The End.
> >
> > Refinish King
>
> Jeeps don't start to fall apart until the day after the warranty
> expires.
>
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
#254
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
Not to mention the sintered wheel nuts and studs:
Which they recommend we don't lubricate, and Anti-Seize has been proven time
and time again to not attract dust!
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554fa62b8923cc9898cf@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <Af-dnZJDSeiWNnfdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, dbs58
> @nospam.hotmail.com says...
> >
> > Who the hell are you calling a trolling customer? I am totally for the
flat
> > rate. I was trying to explain WHY they use the flat rate over an hourly
> > rate. Too many customers were screwed by dishonest mechanics who would
fix a
> > car in 2 hours and said it took 4 hours. The flat rate stopped this. And
> > even the flat rate is over estimated but it works. When I took a vehicle
in
> > for work, I was charged the flat rate for each item done. They charged
me
> > the flat rate for the catalytic converter. Then added in the flat rate
for
> > the brakes. Total time was about 6 hours but they were done in 2. So the
> > mechanic made out. I have no problem with that. They did a good job. But
> > before the flat rate, when I had work done, they would end up keeping it
> > over night and charge me for 10 hours labor for something that I could
have
> > done myself in 3 hours. So no, I have nothing against the flat rate
since I
> > am told up front what it is going to cost me.
> >
>
>
> I don't know what magical book they showed you but all the flat rate
> manuals I have read are HEAVILY in the customer's favor. .2 hours to
> change brake pads, christ it takes that long to get it on the lift.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
Which they recommend we don't lubricate, and Anti-Seize has been proven time
and time again to not attract dust!
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554fa62b8923cc9898cf@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <Af-dnZJDSeiWNnfdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, dbs58
> @nospam.hotmail.com says...
> >
> > Who the hell are you calling a trolling customer? I am totally for the
flat
> > rate. I was trying to explain WHY they use the flat rate over an hourly
> > rate. Too many customers were screwed by dishonest mechanics who would
fix a
> > car in 2 hours and said it took 4 hours. The flat rate stopped this. And
> > even the flat rate is over estimated but it works. When I took a vehicle
in
> > for work, I was charged the flat rate for each item done. They charged
me
> > the flat rate for the catalytic converter. Then added in the flat rate
for
> > the brakes. Total time was about 6 hours but they were done in 2. So the
> > mechanic made out. I have no problem with that. They did a good job. But
> > before the flat rate, when I had work done, they would end up keeping it
> > over night and charge me for 10 hours labor for something that I could
have
> > done myself in 3 hours. So no, I have nothing against the flat rate
since I
> > am told up front what it is going to cost me.
> >
>
>
> I don't know what magical book they showed you but all the flat rate
> manuals I have read are HEAVILY in the customer's favor. .2 hours to
> change brake pads, christ it takes that long to get it on the lift.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
#255
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
Not to mention the sintered wheel nuts and studs:
Which they recommend we don't lubricate, and Anti-Seize has been proven time
and time again to not attract dust!
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554fa62b8923cc9898cf@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <Af-dnZJDSeiWNnfdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, dbs58
> @nospam.hotmail.com says...
> >
> > Who the hell are you calling a trolling customer? I am totally for the
flat
> > rate. I was trying to explain WHY they use the flat rate over an hourly
> > rate. Too many customers were screwed by dishonest mechanics who would
fix a
> > car in 2 hours and said it took 4 hours. The flat rate stopped this. And
> > even the flat rate is over estimated but it works. When I took a vehicle
in
> > for work, I was charged the flat rate for each item done. They charged
me
> > the flat rate for the catalytic converter. Then added in the flat rate
for
> > the brakes. Total time was about 6 hours but they were done in 2. So the
> > mechanic made out. I have no problem with that. They did a good job. But
> > before the flat rate, when I had work done, they would end up keeping it
> > over night and charge me for 10 hours labor for something that I could
have
> > done myself in 3 hours. So no, I have nothing against the flat rate
since I
> > am told up front what it is going to cost me.
> >
>
>
> I don't know what magical book they showed you but all the flat rate
> manuals I have read are HEAVILY in the customer's favor. .2 hours to
> change brake pads, christ it takes that long to get it on the lift.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
Which they recommend we don't lubricate, and Anti-Seize has been proven time
and time again to not attract dust!
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554fa62b8923cc9898cf@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <Af-dnZJDSeiWNnfdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, dbs58
> @nospam.hotmail.com says...
> >
> > Who the hell are you calling a trolling customer? I am totally for the
flat
> > rate. I was trying to explain WHY they use the flat rate over an hourly
> > rate. Too many customers were screwed by dishonest mechanics who would
fix a
> > car in 2 hours and said it took 4 hours. The flat rate stopped this. And
> > even the flat rate is over estimated but it works. When I took a vehicle
in
> > for work, I was charged the flat rate for each item done. They charged
me
> > the flat rate for the catalytic converter. Then added in the flat rate
for
> > the brakes. Total time was about 6 hours but they were done in 2. So the
> > mechanic made out. I have no problem with that. They did a good job. But
> > before the flat rate, when I had work done, they would end up keeping it
> > over night and charge me for 10 hours labor for something that I could
have
> > done myself in 3 hours. So no, I have nothing against the flat rate
since I
> > am told up front what it is going to cost me.
> >
>
>
> I don't know what magical book they showed you but all the flat rate
> manuals I have read are HEAVILY in the customer's favor. .2 hours to
> change brake pads, christ it takes that long to get it on the lift.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
#256
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
Not to mention the sintered wheel nuts and studs:
Which they recommend we don't lubricate, and Anti-Seize has been proven time
and time again to not attract dust!
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554fa62b8923cc9898cf@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <Af-dnZJDSeiWNnfdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, dbs58
> @nospam.hotmail.com says...
> >
> > Who the hell are you calling a trolling customer? I am totally for the
flat
> > rate. I was trying to explain WHY they use the flat rate over an hourly
> > rate. Too many customers were screwed by dishonest mechanics who would
fix a
> > car in 2 hours and said it took 4 hours. The flat rate stopped this. And
> > even the flat rate is over estimated but it works. When I took a vehicle
in
> > for work, I was charged the flat rate for each item done. They charged
me
> > the flat rate for the catalytic converter. Then added in the flat rate
for
> > the brakes. Total time was about 6 hours but they were done in 2. So the
> > mechanic made out. I have no problem with that. They did a good job. But
> > before the flat rate, when I had work done, they would end up keeping it
> > over night and charge me for 10 hours labor for something that I could
have
> > done myself in 3 hours. So no, I have nothing against the flat rate
since I
> > am told up front what it is going to cost me.
> >
>
>
> I don't know what magical book they showed you but all the flat rate
> manuals I have read are HEAVILY in the customer's favor. .2 hours to
> change brake pads, christ it takes that long to get it on the lift.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
Which they recommend we don't lubricate, and Anti-Seize has been proven time
and time again to not attract dust!
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554fa62b8923cc9898cf@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <Af-dnZJDSeiWNnfdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, dbs58
> @nospam.hotmail.com says...
> >
> > Who the hell are you calling a trolling customer? I am totally for the
flat
> > rate. I was trying to explain WHY they use the flat rate over an hourly
> > rate. Too many customers were screwed by dishonest mechanics who would
fix a
> > car in 2 hours and said it took 4 hours. The flat rate stopped this. And
> > even the flat rate is over estimated but it works. When I took a vehicle
in
> > for work, I was charged the flat rate for each item done. They charged
me
> > the flat rate for the catalytic converter. Then added in the flat rate
for
> > the brakes. Total time was about 6 hours but they were done in 2. So the
> > mechanic made out. I have no problem with that. They did a good job. But
> > before the flat rate, when I had work done, they would end up keeping it
> > over night and charge me for 10 hours labor for something that I could
have
> > done myself in 3 hours. So no, I have nothing against the flat rate
since I
> > am told up front what it is going to cost me.
> >
>
>
> I don't know what magical book they showed you but all the flat rate
> manuals I have read are HEAVILY in the customer's favor. .2 hours to
> change brake pads, christ it takes that long to get it on the lift.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
#257
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
Not to mention the sintered wheel nuts and studs:
Which they recommend we don't lubricate, and Anti-Seize has been proven time
and time again to not attract dust!
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554fa62b8923cc9898cf@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <Af-dnZJDSeiWNnfdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, dbs58
> @nospam.hotmail.com says...
> >
> > Who the hell are you calling a trolling customer? I am totally for the
flat
> > rate. I was trying to explain WHY they use the flat rate over an hourly
> > rate. Too many customers were screwed by dishonest mechanics who would
fix a
> > car in 2 hours and said it took 4 hours. The flat rate stopped this. And
> > even the flat rate is over estimated but it works. When I took a vehicle
in
> > for work, I was charged the flat rate for each item done. They charged
me
> > the flat rate for the catalytic converter. Then added in the flat rate
for
> > the brakes. Total time was about 6 hours but they were done in 2. So the
> > mechanic made out. I have no problem with that. They did a good job. But
> > before the flat rate, when I had work done, they would end up keeping it
> > over night and charge me for 10 hours labor for something that I could
have
> > done myself in 3 hours. So no, I have nothing against the flat rate
since I
> > am told up front what it is going to cost me.
> >
>
>
> I don't know what magical book they showed you but all the flat rate
> manuals I have read are HEAVILY in the customer's favor. .2 hours to
> change brake pads, christ it takes that long to get it on the lift.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
Which they recommend we don't lubricate, and Anti-Seize has been proven time
and time again to not attract dust!
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b554fa62b8923cc9898cf@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <Af-dnZJDSeiWNnfdRVn-jA@comcast.com>, dbs58
> @nospam.hotmail.com says...
> >
> > Who the hell are you calling a trolling customer? I am totally for the
flat
> > rate. I was trying to explain WHY they use the flat rate over an hourly
> > rate. Too many customers were screwed by dishonest mechanics who would
fix a
> > car in 2 hours and said it took 4 hours. The flat rate stopped this. And
> > even the flat rate is over estimated but it works. When I took a vehicle
in
> > for work, I was charged the flat rate for each item done. They charged
me
> > the flat rate for the catalytic converter. Then added in the flat rate
for
> > the brakes. Total time was about 6 hours but they were done in 2. So the
> > mechanic made out. I have no problem with that. They did a good job. But
> > before the flat rate, when I had work done, they would end up keeping it
> > over night and charge me for 10 hours labor for something that I could
have
> > done myself in 3 hours. So no, I have nothing against the flat rate
since I
> > am told up front what it is going to cost me.
> >
>
>
> I don't know what magical book they showed you but all the flat rate
> manuals I have read are HEAVILY in the customer's favor. .2 hours to
> change brake pads, christ it takes that long to get it on the lift.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
#258
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
when was the last time you went into a dealer aftermarket maybe but dealers
is a whole different thing
Refinish King wrote:
> A clearer definition of flat rate:
>
> If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an arbitrary
> figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
> back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted warranty
> time.
>
> Guess what? you fix it for free!
>
> So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you want
> working on your car!
>
> Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
> or butchers on flat rate!
>
> The End.
>
> Refinish King
>
> "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > >
> > >
> > > mic canic wrote:
> > >
> > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
> time
> > >
> > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > >
> > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > > the second time.....
> > >
> > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > > hours anyway
> > >
> > > Johan
> > >
> >
> > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > --
> > ____________________
> > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
is a whole different thing
Refinish King wrote:
> A clearer definition of flat rate:
>
> If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an arbitrary
> figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
> back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted warranty
> time.
>
> Guess what? you fix it for free!
>
> So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you want
> working on your car!
>
> Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
> or butchers on flat rate!
>
> The End.
>
> Refinish King
>
> "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > >
> > >
> > > mic canic wrote:
> > >
> > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
> time
> > >
> > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > >
> > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > > the second time.....
> > >
> > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > > hours anyway
> > >
> > > Johan
> > >
> >
> > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > --
> > ____________________
> > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
#259
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
when was the last time you went into a dealer aftermarket maybe but dealers
is a whole different thing
Refinish King wrote:
> A clearer definition of flat rate:
>
> If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an arbitrary
> figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
> back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted warranty
> time.
>
> Guess what? you fix it for free!
>
> So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you want
> working on your car!
>
> Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
> or butchers on flat rate!
>
> The End.
>
> Refinish King
>
> "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > >
> > >
> > > mic canic wrote:
> > >
> > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
> time
> > >
> > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > >
> > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > > the second time.....
> > >
> > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > > hours anyway
> > >
> > > Johan
> > >
> >
> > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > --
> > ____________________
> > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
is a whole different thing
Refinish King wrote:
> A clearer definition of flat rate:
>
> If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an arbitrary
> figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
> back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted warranty
> time.
>
> Guess what? you fix it for free!
>
> So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you want
> working on your car!
>
> Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
> or butchers on flat rate!
>
> The End.
>
> Refinish King
>
> "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > >
> > >
> > > mic canic wrote:
> > >
> > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
> time
> > >
> > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > >
> > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > > the second time.....
> > >
> > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > > hours anyway
> > >
> > > Johan
> > >
> >
> > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > --
> > ____________________
> > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
when was the last time you went into a dealer aftermarket maybe but dealers
is a whole different thing
Refinish King wrote:
> A clearer definition of flat rate:
>
> If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an arbitrary
> figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
> back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted warranty
> time.
>
> Guess what? you fix it for free!
>
> So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you want
> working on your car!
>
> Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
> or butchers on flat rate!
>
> The End.
>
> Refinish King
>
> "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > >
> > >
> > > mic canic wrote:
> > >
> > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
> time
> > >
> > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > >
> > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > > the second time.....
> > >
> > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > > hours anyway
> > >
> > > Johan
> > >
> >
> > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > --
> > ____________________
> > Remove "X" from email address to reply.
is a whole different thing
Refinish King wrote:
> A clearer definition of flat rate:
>
> If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an arbitrary
> figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
> back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted warranty
> time.
>
> Guess what? you fix it for free!
>
> So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you want
> working on your car!
>
> Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
> or butchers on flat rate!
>
> The End.
>
> Refinish King
>
> "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> > In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> > >
> > >
> > > mic canic wrote:
> > >
> > > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
> time
> > >
> > > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> > >
> > > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > > the second time.....
> > >
> > > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > > hours anyway
> > >
> > > Johan
> > >
> >
> > Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> > even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> > fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> > --
> > ____________________
> > Remove "X" from email address to reply.