Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
#201
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
Interesting thread, this.
Just to throw my particular brand of breadcrumbs on the water, I
once -twice-had rear axle bearing failure that was (eventually) traced to an
electrical problem of all things. And all crdit to my brother in law who
thought outside the box tocome up with the answer.
Mike
BTW, it wasnt a jeep, it was a 72 victor FE
Just to throw my particular brand of breadcrumbs on the water, I
once -twice-had rear axle bearing failure that was (eventually) traced to an
electrical problem of all things. And all crdit to my brother in law who
thought outside the box tocome up with the answer.
Mike
BTW, it wasnt a jeep, it was a 72 victor FE
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! /// kinda off-topic
Maybe that's why every couple of years he adds another bay
> (and doesn't have time for stock car racing anymore).
good luck to the guy, especially if he's happy, but it does sound a little
like he's the victim of his own sucess.
Me personally, I work to live , not live to work.
Mike
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! /// kinda off-topic
Maybe that's why every couple of years he adds another bay
> (and doesn't have time for stock car racing anymore).
good luck to the guy, especially if he's happy, but it does sound a little
like he's the victim of his own sucess.
Me personally, I work to live , not live to work.
Mike
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! /// kinda off-topic
Maybe that's why every couple of years he adds another bay
> (and doesn't have time for stock car racing anymore).
good luck to the guy, especially if he's happy, but it does sound a little
like he's the victim of his own sucess.
Me personally, I work to live , not live to work.
Mike
#205
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! /// kinda off-topic
Maybe that's why every couple of years he adds another bay
> (and doesn't have time for stock car racing anymore).
good luck to the guy, especially if he's happy, but it does sound a little
like he's the victim of his own sucess.
Me personally, I work to live , not live to work.
Mike
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
>
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
> > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first time
>
> Do you like to xplain your logic ????
>
> How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> the second time.....
>
> Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> hours anyway
>
> Johan
>
Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
fix it right, so where's the incentive?
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johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
>
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
> > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first time
>
> Do you like to xplain your logic ????
>
> How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> the second time.....
>
> Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> hours anyway
>
> Johan
>
Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
fix it right, so where's the incentive?
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
>
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
> > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first time
>
> Do you like to xplain your logic ????
>
> How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> the second time.....
>
> Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> hours anyway
>
> Johan
>
Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
fix it right, so where's the incentive?
--
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johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
>
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
> > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first time
>
> Do you like to xplain your logic ????
>
> How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> the second time.....
>
> Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> hours anyway
>
> Johan
>
Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
fix it right, so where's the incentive?
--
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
>
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
> > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first time
>
> Do you like to xplain your logic ????
>
> How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> the second time.....
>
> Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> hours anyway
>
> Johan
>
Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
fix it right, so where's the incentive?
--
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johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
>
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
> > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first time
>
> Do you like to xplain your logic ????
>
> How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> the second time.....
>
> Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> hours anyway
>
> Johan
>
Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
fix it right, so where's the incentive?
--
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
>
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
> > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first time
>
> Do you like to xplain your logic ????
>
> How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> the second time.....
>
> Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> hours anyway
>
> Johan
>
Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
fix it right, so where's the incentive?
--
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johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
>
>
> mic canic wrote:
>
> > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first time
>
> Do you like to xplain your logic ????
>
> How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> the second time.....
>
> Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> hours anyway
>
> Johan
>
Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
fix it right, so where's the incentive?
--
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#210
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
A clearer definition of flat rate:
If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an arbitrary
figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted warranty
time.
Guess what? you fix it for free!
So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you want
working on your car!
Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
or butchers on flat rate!
The End.
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> >
> >
> > mic canic wrote:
> >
> > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
time
> >
> > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> >
> > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > the second time.....
> >
> > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > hours anyway
> >
> > Johan
> >
>
> Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> --
> ____________________
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If the rate manual gives four hours to do a particular job, for an arbitrary
figure. You take eight hours. You get paid for four hours, and if it comes
back for defective workmanship, not a part failure in the allotted warranty
time.
Guess what? you fix it for free!
So in essence, a flat rate technician is most likely the technician you want
working on your car!
Employers are very leery about putting shoddy or inexperienced technicians
or butchers on flat rate!
The End.
Refinish King
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b53e9d59ccc2e809898cc@news.eastlink.ca.. .
> In article <KysFc.3227$oD3.1853@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> johanberkhoff.spam@earthlink.net says...
> >
> >
> > mic canic wrote:
> >
> > > end the flat rate pay system and everyone will have fixed cars first
time
> >
> > Do you like to xplain your logic ????
> >
> > How about fix it right the first time or you will be doing it for free
> > the second time.....
> >
> > Thats better then sit on your lazy ***, F*ck up again, and get your 8
> > hours anyway
> >
> > Johan
> >
>
> Do you know what flat rate means? It means you'll get paid the same
> even if you work on it for twice as long as you're getting paid for to
> fix it right, so where's the incentive?
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.