Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
Well, you get antiques for free.
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It usually is....of course, we all know the real reason why you opened an
> off-road business...to get parts at cost...
>
> ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> It usually is....of course, we all know the real reason why you opened an
> off-road business...to get parts at cost...
>
> ;-)
#162
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! /// kinda off-topic
JohanB wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
> Johan
I had a Happy 1st of July up here in Canada off bush running in a
friend's TJ thanks, happy 4th to you.
It is unfortunate how that system opens up so much abuse isn't it.
If it was a perfect world and 'mechanics' all knew what they were doing
and most important had pride in their work the flat rate works out good
for everyone.
In some 'other' worlds you get sleaze ***** that go for the numbers only
and are bad enough that the dealers they work for are even forced under
because of the bad rep they give the shop.
In worse cases, which happens far far too often, there is enough
warranty work to keep the damn dealer with the sleaze ***** still going
because 'no' one will come back when the warranty is up because they get
told things like,
"a whine noise in the rear axle does not MEAN a axle failure
wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whiner go home."
It is sure nice when you can find a straight up honest and 'good'
mechanic, but they are rare!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
> Johan
I had a Happy 1st of July up here in Canada off bush running in a
friend's TJ thanks, happy 4th to you.
It is unfortunate how that system opens up so much abuse isn't it.
If it was a perfect world and 'mechanics' all knew what they were doing
and most important had pride in their work the flat rate works out good
for everyone.
In some 'other' worlds you get sleaze ***** that go for the numbers only
and are bad enough that the dealers they work for are even forced under
because of the bad rep they give the shop.
In worse cases, which happens far far too often, there is enough
warranty work to keep the damn dealer with the sleaze ***** still going
because 'no' one will come back when the warranty is up because they get
told things like,
"a whine noise in the rear axle does not MEAN a axle failure
wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whiner go home."
It is sure nice when you can find a straight up honest and 'good'
mechanic, but they are rare!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! /// kinda off-topic
JohanB wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
> Johan
I had a Happy 1st of July up here in Canada off bush running in a
friend's TJ thanks, happy 4th to you.
It is unfortunate how that system opens up so much abuse isn't it.
If it was a perfect world and 'mechanics' all knew what they were doing
and most important had pride in their work the flat rate works out good
for everyone.
In some 'other' worlds you get sleaze ***** that go for the numbers only
and are bad enough that the dealers they work for are even forced under
because of the bad rep they give the shop.
In worse cases, which happens far far too often, there is enough
warranty work to keep the damn dealer with the sleaze ***** still going
because 'no' one will come back when the warranty is up because they get
told things like,
"a whine noise in the rear axle does not MEAN a axle failure
wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whiner go home."
It is sure nice when you can find a straight up honest and 'good'
mechanic, but they are rare!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
> Johan
I had a Happy 1st of July up here in Canada off bush running in a
friend's TJ thanks, happy 4th to you.
It is unfortunate how that system opens up so much abuse isn't it.
If it was a perfect world and 'mechanics' all knew what they were doing
and most important had pride in their work the flat rate works out good
for everyone.
In some 'other' worlds you get sleaze ***** that go for the numbers only
and are bad enough that the dealers they work for are even forced under
because of the bad rep they give the shop.
In worse cases, which happens far far too often, there is enough
warranty work to keep the damn dealer with the sleaze ***** still going
because 'no' one will come back when the warranty is up because they get
told things like,
"a whine noise in the rear axle does not MEAN a axle failure
wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whiner go home."
It is sure nice when you can find a straight up honest and 'good'
mechanic, but they are rare!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#164
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! /// kinda off-topic
JohanB wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
> Johan
I had a Happy 1st of July up here in Canada off bush running in a
friend's TJ thanks, happy 4th to you.
It is unfortunate how that system opens up so much abuse isn't it.
If it was a perfect world and 'mechanics' all knew what they were doing
and most important had pride in their work the flat rate works out good
for everyone.
In some 'other' worlds you get sleaze ***** that go for the numbers only
and are bad enough that the dealers they work for are even forced under
because of the bad rep they give the shop.
In worse cases, which happens far far too often, there is enough
warranty work to keep the damn dealer with the sleaze ***** still going
because 'no' one will come back when the warranty is up because they get
told things like,
"a whine noise in the rear axle does not MEAN a axle failure
wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whiner go home."
It is sure nice when you can find a straight up honest and 'good'
mechanic, but they are rare!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
> Johan
I had a Happy 1st of July up here in Canada off bush running in a
friend's TJ thanks, happy 4th to you.
It is unfortunate how that system opens up so much abuse isn't it.
If it was a perfect world and 'mechanics' all knew what they were doing
and most important had pride in their work the flat rate works out good
for everyone.
In some 'other' worlds you get sleaze ***** that go for the numbers only
and are bad enough that the dealers they work for are even forced under
because of the bad rep they give the shop.
In worse cases, which happens far far too often, there is enough
warranty work to keep the damn dealer with the sleaze ***** still going
because 'no' one will come back when the warranty is up because they get
told things like,
"a whine noise in the rear axle does not MEAN a axle failure
wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whiner go home."
It is sure nice when you can find a straight up honest and 'good'
mechanic, but they are rare!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#165
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! /// kinda off-topic
JohanB wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
> Johan
I had a Happy 1st of July up here in Canada off bush running in a
friend's TJ thanks, happy 4th to you.
It is unfortunate how that system opens up so much abuse isn't it.
If it was a perfect world and 'mechanics' all knew what they were doing
and most important had pride in their work the flat rate works out good
for everyone.
In some 'other' worlds you get sleaze ***** that go for the numbers only
and are bad enough that the dealers they work for are even forced under
because of the bad rep they give the shop.
In worse cases, which happens far far too often, there is enough
warranty work to keep the damn dealer with the sleaze ***** still going
because 'no' one will come back when the warranty is up because they get
told things like,
"a whine noise in the rear axle does not MEAN a axle failure
wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whiner go home."
It is sure nice when you can find a straight up honest and 'good'
mechanic, but they are rare!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > Spoken like a true dealer tech!
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
> > stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
> > make.
> >
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> I flag an average of 10/12 hours a day , does that make me a "sleaze
> ball rip off dealer mechanic" or does that mean I have more experience
> in most jobs and work fast ????
>
> A brake job pays 2 hours an axle so if you have a car with oilchange
> front rear brakes and lets say 4 tires you will get 2+2+1.7+0.3= 6 hours
> and do it in 3 /3.5 hours you will make money and that doesnt mean
> youre ripping off the customer because he will pay $199 an axle for a
> brake job, $25 for mounting/balance tires + tires and $19.95 for the
> oilchange.
>
> Yeah, DIAGNOSE a electrical or driveability problem they pays 1 hour
> wich is "FREE" at pepboys etc, but remember they dont diagnose, they
> pull codes trow parts at it and then send it to the dealer because it
> didnt fix it.
>
> Just because the PCM give you a 02 sensor lean code doesnt mean it needs
> O2 sensors.
>
> Unfortunaly some off those Pepboy mechanics end up at the dealer and
> then offcourse some off those Pepboy mechanics really know what they are
> doing and shouldnt be working there.
>
> And then there is the labor rate, $108 an hour where I work, Please dont
> think a tech still get 40/50% of the labor rate , those days are long
> gone $10/15 if youre a luby $15/23 when your a cert tech and $23/30 when
> youre a master tech so somebody is pocketing $70-$80 an hour and its not
> the techs :-(
>
> Just my 2c
>
> Anyways
>
> Happy 4th
>
> Johan
I had a Happy 1st of July up here in Canada off bush running in a
friend's TJ thanks, happy 4th to you.
It is unfortunate how that system opens up so much abuse isn't it.
If it was a perfect world and 'mechanics' all knew what they were doing
and most important had pride in their work the flat rate works out good
for everyone.
In some 'other' worlds you get sleaze ***** that go for the numbers only
and are bad enough that the dealers they work for are even forced under
because of the bad rep they give the shop.
In worse cases, which happens far far too often, there is enough
warranty work to keep the damn dealer with the sleaze ***** still going
because 'no' one will come back when the warranty is up because they get
told things like,
"a whine noise in the rear axle does not MEAN a axle failure
wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whiner go home."
It is sure nice when you can find a straight up honest and 'good'
mechanic, but they are rare!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
I wish. :-)
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40E70B57.80C488E@***.net...
> Well, you get antiques for free.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It usually is....of course, we all know the real reason why you opened
an
> > off-road business...to get parts at cost...
> >
> > ;-)
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40E70B57.80C488E@***.net...
> Well, you get antiques for free.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It usually is....of course, we all know the real reason why you opened
an
> > off-road business...to get parts at cost...
> >
> > ;-)
#167
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
I wish. :-)
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40E70B57.80C488E@***.net...
> Well, you get antiques for free.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It usually is....of course, we all know the real reason why you opened
an
> > off-road business...to get parts at cost...
> >
> > ;-)
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40E70B57.80C488E@***.net...
> Well, you get antiques for free.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It usually is....of course, we all know the real reason why you opened
an
> > off-road business...to get parts at cost...
> >
> > ;-)
#168
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
I wish. :-)
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40E70B57.80C488E@***.net...
> Well, you get antiques for free.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It usually is....of course, we all know the real reason why you opened
an
> > off-road business...to get parts at cost...
> >
> > ;-)
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40E70B57.80C488E@***.net...
> Well, you get antiques for free.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It usually is....of course, we all know the real reason why you opened
an
> > off-road business...to get parts at cost...
> >
> > ;-)
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
I wish. :-)
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Well, you get antiques for free.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It usually is....of course, we all know the real reason why you opened
an
> > off-road business...to get parts at cost...
> >
> > ;-)
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Well, you get antiques for free.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > It usually is....of course, we all know the real reason why you opened
an
> > off-road business...to get parts at cost...
> >
> > ;-)
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! /// kinda off-topic
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:54:54 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> It is sure nice when you can find a straight up honest and 'good'
> mechanic, but they are rare!
And worth a few bucks extra after waiting for an appointment! Friend
of mine opened a garage to help support his stock car "hobby" several
years back. Now, it takes a week to get into a bay in the shop and he
tells you right up front that he will cost you more than some places
because he does the job the way he thinks it needs to be done or he
doesn't do it at all. Funny thing is, it's far more common to hear
this guy tell a customer that he really doesn't need the extra work
than it is to hear him try to sell something on top of the actual
repair. Maybe that's why every couple of years he adds another bay
(and doesn't have time for stock car racing anymore). His is the only
shop that puts a wrench on my vehicles unless he sends me to a
specialty shop HE recommends.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> It is sure nice when you can find a straight up honest and 'good'
> mechanic, but they are rare!
And worth a few bucks extra after waiting for an appointment! Friend
of mine opened a garage to help support his stock car "hobby" several
years back. Now, it takes a week to get into a bay in the shop and he
tells you right up front that he will cost you more than some places
because he does the job the way he thinks it needs to be done or he
doesn't do it at all. Funny thing is, it's far more common to hear
this guy tell a customer that he really doesn't need the extra work
than it is to hear him try to sell something on top of the actual
repair. Maybe that's why every couple of years he adds another bay
(and doesn't have time for stock car racing anymore). His is the only
shop that puts a wrench on my vehicles unless he sends me to a
specialty shop HE recommends.
--
Will Honea