Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
#81
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
I have had 4 Cherokees (85, 87, 88 & 91) and 1 Grand Cherokee (95) all well
over
100K miles and never had a diff bearing problem. The 91 Cherokee has 180K
miles
and still runs great. These all had Dana 30 &35 axles though. Have changed
the diff
gear lube every 30K miles too.
Greg
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
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> I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> three times.
>
> Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> contamination and breakdown.
> "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > Are you the owner of a Jeep Grand Cherokee that did not live up to
> > expectations?
> >
> >
> >
> > More directly, did your Jeep Grand Cherokee suffer a premature rear axle
> > bearing failure? Did you find your contacts with Chrysler Corporation
to
> be
> > unproductive in getting assistance to pay for the repair?
> >
> >
> >
> > I invite you to email your story, photos and receipts to
> >
> >
> >
> > http://grandcherokeedefects.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > All information will be turned over to a lawyer for possible class
action
> > status.
> >
> >
> >
> > All information will be kept strictly confidential. Stories and photos
> will
> > be shared to attract more owners of defective Grand Cherokees.
> >
> >
> >
> > Check updates at
> >
> >
> >
> > http://grandcherokeedefects.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> >
>
>
>
over
100K miles and never had a diff bearing problem. The 91 Cherokee has 180K
miles
and still runs great. These all had Dana 30 &35 axles though. Have changed
the diff
gear lube every 30K miles too.
Greg
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cc1bpn0s0m@enews1.newsguy.com...
> I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> three times.
>
> Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> contamination and breakdown.
> "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > Are you the owner of a Jeep Grand Cherokee that did not live up to
> > expectations?
> >
> >
> >
> > More directly, did your Jeep Grand Cherokee suffer a premature rear axle
> > bearing failure? Did you find your contacts with Chrysler Corporation
to
> be
> > unproductive in getting assistance to pay for the repair?
> >
> >
> >
> > I invite you to email your story, photos and receipts to
> >
> >
> >
> > http://grandcherokeedefects.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > All information will be turned over to a lawyer for possible class
action
> > status.
> >
> >
> >
> > All information will be kept strictly confidential. Stories and photos
> will
> > be shared to attract more owners of defective Grand Cherokees.
> >
> >
> >
> > Check updates at
> >
> >
> >
> > http://grandcherokeedefects.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> >
>
>
>
#82
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
Jerry McG wrote:
> I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> three times.
>
> Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> contamination and breakdown.
> "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
>
>
My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
bearing problems.
> I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> three times.
>
> Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> contamination and breakdown.
> "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
>
>
My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
bearing problems.
#83
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
Jerry McG wrote:
> I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> three times.
>
> Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> contamination and breakdown.
> "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
>
>
My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
bearing problems.
> I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> three times.
>
> Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> contamination and breakdown.
> "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
>
>
My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
bearing problems.
#84
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
Jerry McG wrote:
> I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> three times.
>
> Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> contamination and breakdown.
> "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
>
>
My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
bearing problems.
> I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> three times.
>
> Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> contamination and breakdown.
> "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
>
>
My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
bearing problems.
#85
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
Jerry McG wrote:
> I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> three times.
>
> Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> contamination and breakdown.
> "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
>
>
My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
bearing problems.
> I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> three times.
>
> Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> contamination and breakdown.
> "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
>
>
My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
bearing problems.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
"Rob Munach" <xlengr@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> > towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> > changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> > three times.
> >
> > Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> > contamination and breakdown.
> > "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> > news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> >
> >
> My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
> off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
> people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
> bearing problems.
So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
experience
engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
lubricants
per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame the
manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
without
a single differential problem.
news:MD9Fc.51338$OB3.41627@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> > towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> > changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> > three times.
> >
> > Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> > contamination and breakdown.
> > "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> > news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> >
> >
> My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
> off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
> people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
> bearing problems.
So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
experience
engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
lubricants
per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame the
manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
without
a single differential problem.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
"Rob Munach" <xlengr@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> > towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> > changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> > three times.
> >
> > Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> > contamination and breakdown.
> > "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> > news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> >
> >
> My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
> off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
> people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
> bearing problems.
So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
experience
engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
lubricants
per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame the
manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
without
a single differential problem.
news:MD9Fc.51338$OB3.41627@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> > towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> > changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> > three times.
> >
> > Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> > contamination and breakdown.
> > "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> > news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> >
> >
> My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
> off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
> people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
> bearing problems.
So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
experience
engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
lubricants
per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame the
manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
without
a single differential problem.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
"Rob Munach" <xlengr@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> > towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> > changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> > three times.
> >
> > Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> > contamination and breakdown.
> > "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> > news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> >
> >
> My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
> off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
> people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
> bearing problems.
So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
experience
engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
lubricants
per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame the
manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
without
a single differential problem.
news:MD9Fc.51338$OB3.41627@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> > towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> > changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> > three times.
> >
> > Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> > contamination and breakdown.
> > "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> > news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> >
> >
> My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
> off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
> people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
> bearing problems.
So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
experience
engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
lubricants
per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame the
manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
without
a single differential problem.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
"Rob Munach" <xlengr@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:MD9Fc.51338$OB3.41627@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> > towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> > changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> > three times.
> >
> > Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> > contamination and breakdown.
> > "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> > news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> >
> >
> My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
> off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
> people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
> bearing problems.
So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
experience
engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
lubricants
per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame the
manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
without
a single differential problem.
news:MD9Fc.51338$OB3.41627@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
> > towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
> > changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
> > three times.
> >
> > Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> > contamination and breakdown.
> > "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> > news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> >
> >
> My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
> off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
> people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
> bearing problems.
So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
experience
engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
lubricants
per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame the
manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
without
a single differential problem.
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Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!!
"Kuzie" <greg.kuzmanich@NOSPAMintel.com> wrote in message
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> "Rob Munach" <xlengr@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:MD9Fc.51338$OB3.41627@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > > I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for,
any
> > > towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked
and
> > > changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at
least
> > > three times.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
> > > contamination and breakdown.
> > > "Grumpy" <grumpy@nothappy.com> wrote in message
> > > news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > >
> > >
> > My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
> > off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
> > people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
> > bearing problems.
>
> So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
> experience
>
> engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
> lubricants
>
> per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame
the
>
> manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
> without
>
> a single differential problem.
That was definitly caused by lubricant breakdown & reusltant metal
contamination. My hunch is it the vehicle was overloaded or got overstressed
towing something beyong its capacity. The giveaway is the scoring on the
outer axle bearings & the axle shafts.
FWIW, the Grand Cherokee factory maintenance schedule calls for 12k mile
differential fluid changes if it's used for towing & heavy loads (i.e.,
severe duty). It also calls for an 80w-140 lubricant in the rear axle in
those cases.
That thing had to be growlng like a pack of mad dogs for a long time, too.
Would have paid to look into it earlier.