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Mike Romain 09-15-2004 09:30 PM

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 
WTF are you talking about?

We drive Jeeps here. The GM alternators are some of the better ones out
there.

All you want to do is talk off topic bull ----. Who gives a crap what
an airplane needs or some airplane bozo thinks it doesn't need? This
group does have a Charter you know and you sure don't seem to fit here.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Ted Azito wrote:
>
> One wire alternators, for those who haven't figured it out, are Bad
> News.
>
> "Contact" magazine, a publication for experimental aircraft people
> who want to Experiment and not build cookie cutter airplanes with
> overpriced junk Lycomings,explains this in a recent excellent article.
> They would not appreciate me scanning it and posting it but it
> essentially says that one wire alternators have a failure mode,
> voltage runaway, that is the most damaging possible thing.
>
> The auto companies don't build one wire alternators even though it
> would be easier and cheaper. They would save on wire, connectors, et
> al.
>
> A really professional electrical system install would have both BAT
> and ALT master switches, just like Cessnas and Pipers that use auto
> alternators (with the FAA's blessing like Hot Dogs at Friday night
> church carnivals in the minnow muncher days, and as necessary...) and
> a crowbar circuit on the buses for engine and body ECMs, and the
> radio.


Mike Romain 09-15-2004 09:30 PM

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 
WTF are you talking about?

We drive Jeeps here. The GM alternators are some of the better ones out
there.

All you want to do is talk off topic bull ----. Who gives a crap what
an airplane needs or some airplane bozo thinks it doesn't need? This
group does have a Charter you know and you sure don't seem to fit here.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Ted Azito wrote:
>
> One wire alternators, for those who haven't figured it out, are Bad
> News.
>
> "Contact" magazine, a publication for experimental aircraft people
> who want to Experiment and not build cookie cutter airplanes with
> overpriced junk Lycomings,explains this in a recent excellent article.
> They would not appreciate me scanning it and posting it but it
> essentially says that one wire alternators have a failure mode,
> voltage runaway, that is the most damaging possible thing.
>
> The auto companies don't build one wire alternators even though it
> would be easier and cheaper. They would save on wire, connectors, et
> al.
>
> A really professional electrical system install would have both BAT
> and ALT master switches, just like Cessnas and Pipers that use auto
> alternators (with the FAA's blessing like Hot Dogs at Friday night
> church carnivals in the minnow muncher days, and as necessary...) and
> a crowbar circuit on the buses for engine and body ECMs, and the
> radio.


Mike Romain 09-15-2004 09:30 PM

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 
WTF are you talking about?

We drive Jeeps here. The GM alternators are some of the better ones out
there.

All you want to do is talk off topic bull ----. Who gives a crap what
an airplane needs or some airplane bozo thinks it doesn't need? This
group does have a Charter you know and you sure don't seem to fit here.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Ted Azito wrote:
>
> One wire alternators, for those who haven't figured it out, are Bad
> News.
>
> "Contact" magazine, a publication for experimental aircraft people
> who want to Experiment and not build cookie cutter airplanes with
> overpriced junk Lycomings,explains this in a recent excellent article.
> They would not appreciate me scanning it and posting it but it
> essentially says that one wire alternators have a failure mode,
> voltage runaway, that is the most damaging possible thing.
>
> The auto companies don't build one wire alternators even though it
> would be easier and cheaper. They would save on wire, connectors, et
> al.
>
> A really professional electrical system install would have both BAT
> and ALT master switches, just like Cessnas and Pipers that use auto
> alternators (with the FAA's blessing like Hot Dogs at Friday night
> church carnivals in the minnow muncher days, and as necessary...) and
> a crowbar circuit on the buses for engine and body ECMs, and the
> radio.


Matt Macchiarolo 09-15-2004 11:35 PM

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 
Mike, it's getting increasingly difficult to distinguish your postings from
Bill H.'s The tipoff is usually yours have fewer mispellings and typos...

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4148ECC0.8BA3E083@sympatico.ca...
> WTF are you talking about?
>
> We drive Jeeps here. The GM alternators are some of the better ones out
> there.
>
> All you want to do is talk off topic bull ----. Who gives a crap what
> an airplane needs or some airplane bozo thinks it doesn't need? This
> group does have a Charter you know and you sure don't seem to fit here.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Ted Azito wrote:
> >
> > One wire alternators, for those who haven't figured it out, are Bad
> > News.
> >
> > "Contact" magazine, a publication for experimental aircraft people
> > who want to Experiment and not build cookie cutter airplanes with
> > overpriced junk Lycomings,explains this in a recent excellent article.
> > They would not appreciate me scanning it and posting it but it
> > essentially says that one wire alternators have a failure mode,
> > voltage runaway, that is the most damaging possible thing.
> >
> > The auto companies don't build one wire alternators even though it
> > would be easier and cheaper. They would save on wire, connectors, et
> > al.
> >
> > A really professional electrical system install would have both BAT
> > and ALT master switches, just like Cessnas and Pipers that use auto
> > alternators (with the FAA's blessing like Hot Dogs at Friday night
> > church carnivals in the minnow muncher days, and as necessary...) and
> > a crowbar circuit on the buses for engine and body ECMs, and the
> > radio.




Matt Macchiarolo 09-15-2004 11:35 PM

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 
Mike, it's getting increasingly difficult to distinguish your postings from
Bill H.'s The tipoff is usually yours have fewer mispellings and typos...

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4148ECC0.8BA3E083@sympatico.ca...
> WTF are you talking about?
>
> We drive Jeeps here. The GM alternators are some of the better ones out
> there.
>
> All you want to do is talk off topic bull ----. Who gives a crap what
> an airplane needs or some airplane bozo thinks it doesn't need? This
> group does have a Charter you know and you sure don't seem to fit here.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Ted Azito wrote:
> >
> > One wire alternators, for those who haven't figured it out, are Bad
> > News.
> >
> > "Contact" magazine, a publication for experimental aircraft people
> > who want to Experiment and not build cookie cutter airplanes with
> > overpriced junk Lycomings,explains this in a recent excellent article.
> > They would not appreciate me scanning it and posting it but it
> > essentially says that one wire alternators have a failure mode,
> > voltage runaway, that is the most damaging possible thing.
> >
> > The auto companies don't build one wire alternators even though it
> > would be easier and cheaper. They would save on wire, connectors, et
> > al.
> >
> > A really professional electrical system install would have both BAT
> > and ALT master switches, just like Cessnas and Pipers that use auto
> > alternators (with the FAA's blessing like Hot Dogs at Friday night
> > church carnivals in the minnow muncher days, and as necessary...) and
> > a crowbar circuit on the buses for engine and body ECMs, and the
> > radio.




Matt Macchiarolo 09-15-2004 11:35 PM

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 
Mike, it's getting increasingly difficult to distinguish your postings from
Bill H.'s The tipoff is usually yours have fewer mispellings and typos...

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4148ECC0.8BA3E083@sympatico.ca...
> WTF are you talking about?
>
> We drive Jeeps here. The GM alternators are some of the better ones out
> there.
>
> All you want to do is talk off topic bull ----. Who gives a crap what
> an airplane needs or some airplane bozo thinks it doesn't need? This
> group does have a Charter you know and you sure don't seem to fit here.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Ted Azito wrote:
> >
> > One wire alternators, for those who haven't figured it out, are Bad
> > News.
> >
> > "Contact" magazine, a publication for experimental aircraft people
> > who want to Experiment and not build cookie cutter airplanes with
> > overpriced junk Lycomings,explains this in a recent excellent article.
> > They would not appreciate me scanning it and posting it but it
> > essentially says that one wire alternators have a failure mode,
> > voltage runaway, that is the most damaging possible thing.
> >
> > The auto companies don't build one wire alternators even though it
> > would be easier and cheaper. They would save on wire, connectors, et
> > al.
> >
> > A really professional electrical system install would have both BAT
> > and ALT master switches, just like Cessnas and Pipers that use auto
> > alternators (with the FAA's blessing like Hot Dogs at Friday night
> > church carnivals in the minnow muncher days, and as necessary...) and
> > a crowbar circuit on the buses for engine and body ECMs, and the
> > radio.




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-15-2004 11:41 PM

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 
And as usual your post have nothing to with the thread and are just
designed to incite. Let those whom want to help, help.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Mike, it's getting increasingly difficult to distinguish your postings from
> Bill H.'s The tipoff is usually yours have fewer mispellings and typos...


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-15-2004 11:41 PM

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 
And as usual your post have nothing to with the thread and are just
designed to incite. Let those whom want to help, help.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Mike, it's getting increasingly difficult to distinguish your postings from
> Bill H.'s The tipoff is usually yours have fewer mispellings and typos...


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-15-2004 11:41 PM

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 
And as usual your post have nothing to with the thread and are just
designed to incite. Let those whom want to help, help.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Mike, it's getting increasingly difficult to distinguish your postings from
> Bill H.'s The tipoff is usually yours have fewer mispellings and typos...


Matt Macchiarolo 09-16-2004 12:04 AM

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 
I'm sorry, should I have started a new thread? Just found it interesting
that after a week or more the thread goes off topic, Mike pulls out the
charter whine...

Talk about calling the kettle black...

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41490B5C.D70643EE@cox.net...
> And as usual your post have nothing to with the thread and are just
> designed to incite. Let those whom want to help, help.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Mike, it's getting increasingly difficult to distinguish your postings

from
> > Bill H.'s The tipoff is usually yours have fewer mispellings and

typos...




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