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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Hi Dave,
The company that made the conversion kit for you are use special materials. Like the carburetor your using isn't the stock gasoline one your car came with, as the first kits here in California, that froze, in ninety degree weather. Remember like your Air Conditioning you are releasing gas under pressure, which freezes. A friend was killed a couple of years ago with a similar gas, nitrous froze full throttle. Learn never use it for more than ten seconds. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature > is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving. > However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol > with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ |
Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Hi Dave,
The company that made the conversion kit for you are use special materials. Like the carburetor your using isn't the stock gasoline one your car came with, as the first kits here in California, that froze, in ninety degree weather. Remember like your Air Conditioning you are releasing gas under pressure, which freezes. A friend was killed a couple of years ago with a similar gas, nitrous froze full throttle. Learn never use it for more than ten seconds. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature > is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving. > However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol > with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ |
Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Yes, McSweens is probably the best make. It tastes great, but it doesn't
do to think too closely about it. The lamb stomach is used as the wrapper to hold it all together ( the cheaper brands use plastic). On the other hand, its probably better than eating a sausage. Or commercial pies which have the tastefully named "mechanically recovered meat" where they it off the bone in a slurry. Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:kszZc.70151$yh.5100@fed1read05... > Dave, since you're from beautiful Scotland, have you had any good haggis > lately? I just saw the recipe for traditional haggis a few days ago and OH > MY GAWD the stuff that is in haggis!!! I mean.... sheep or lamb stomach, > mutton suet, lamb's liver, "hearts and lights (?) of the sheep, etc.. Holy > Smoke! :D > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message > news:HizZc.1439$aA5.15370341@news-text.cableinet.net... > > Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature > > is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from > > moving. > > However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol > > with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ > > > > "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om... > >> > > >> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > >> > news:41355927.E73ED777@cox.net... > >> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing > >> > > the > >> > driver > >> > >> > >> > >> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many > >> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I > >> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very > >> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in > >> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to > >> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too. > >> > >> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The > >> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it > >> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except > >> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they > >> couldn't get to it. > >> > >> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the > >> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I > >> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on > >> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged > >> gas carburetor setups too.) > > > > > > |
Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Yes, McSweens is probably the best make. It tastes great, but it doesn't
do to think too closely about it. The lamb stomach is used as the wrapper to hold it all together ( the cheaper brands use plastic). On the other hand, its probably better than eating a sausage. Or commercial pies which have the tastefully named "mechanically recovered meat" where they it off the bone in a slurry. Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:kszZc.70151$yh.5100@fed1read05... > Dave, since you're from beautiful Scotland, have you had any good haggis > lately? I just saw the recipe for traditional haggis a few days ago and OH > MY GAWD the stuff that is in haggis!!! I mean.... sheep or lamb stomach, > mutton suet, lamb's liver, "hearts and lights (?) of the sheep, etc.. Holy > Smoke! :D > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message > news:HizZc.1439$aA5.15370341@news-text.cableinet.net... > > Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature > > is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from > > moving. > > However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol > > with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ > > > > "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om... > >> > > >> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > >> > news:41355927.E73ED777@cox.net... > >> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing > >> > > the > >> > driver > >> > >> > >> > >> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many > >> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I > >> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very > >> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in > >> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to > >> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too. > >> > >> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The > >> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it > >> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except > >> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they > >> couldn't get to it. > >> > >> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the > >> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I > >> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on > >> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged > >> gas carburetor setups too.) > > > > > > |
Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Yes, McSweens is probably the best make. It tastes great, but it doesn't
do to think too closely about it. The lamb stomach is used as the wrapper to hold it all together ( the cheaper brands use plastic). On the other hand, its probably better than eating a sausage. Or commercial pies which have the tastefully named "mechanically recovered meat" where they it off the bone in a slurry. Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:kszZc.70151$yh.5100@fed1read05... > Dave, since you're from beautiful Scotland, have you had any good haggis > lately? I just saw the recipe for traditional haggis a few days ago and OH > MY GAWD the stuff that is in haggis!!! I mean.... sheep or lamb stomach, > mutton suet, lamb's liver, "hearts and lights (?) of the sheep, etc.. Holy > Smoke! :D > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message > news:HizZc.1439$aA5.15370341@news-text.cableinet.net... > > Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature > > is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from > > moving. > > However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol > > with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ > > > > "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om... > >> > > >> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > >> > news:41355927.E73ED777@cox.net... > >> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing > >> > > the > >> > driver > >> > >> > >> > >> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many > >> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I > >> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very > >> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in > >> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to > >> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too. > >> > >> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The > >> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it > >> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except > >> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they > >> couldn't get to it. > >> > >> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the > >> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I > >> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on > >> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged > >> gas carburetor setups too.) > > > > > > |
Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Sorry about your friend, Bill. The carb is the stock one the Waggy came with
(its going to be replaced with an Edelbrock shortly). The propane unit is heated by a radiator take off, and then goes into a unit which bolts on top of the carb. I had it freeze once at the propane unit when it was very cold outside but the engine just stopped. The carb doesn't seem to get that cold really. Out of interest, how much gas comes out a nitrous bottle during the 10 second shot ? Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@c ox.net> wrote in message news:41376FC5.8BC59EB8@cox.net... > Hi Dave, > The company that made the conversion kit for you are use special > materials. Like the carburetor your using isn't the stock gasoline one > your car came with, as the first kits here in California, that froze, in > ninety degree weather. Remember like your Air Conditioning you are > releasing gas under pressure, which freezes. A friend was killed a > couple of years ago with a similar gas, nitrous froze full throttle. > Learn never use it for more than ten seconds. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature > > is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving. > > However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol > > with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ |
Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Sorry about your friend, Bill. The carb is the stock one the Waggy came with
(its going to be replaced with an Edelbrock shortly). The propane unit is heated by a radiator take off, and then goes into a unit which bolts on top of the carb. I had it freeze once at the propane unit when it was very cold outside but the engine just stopped. The carb doesn't seem to get that cold really. Out of interest, how much gas comes out a nitrous bottle during the 10 second shot ? Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@c ox.net> wrote in message news:41376FC5.8BC59EB8@cox.net... > Hi Dave, > The company that made the conversion kit for you are use special > materials. Like the carburetor your using isn't the stock gasoline one > your car came with, as the first kits here in California, that froze, in > ninety degree weather. Remember like your Air Conditioning you are > releasing gas under pressure, which freezes. A friend was killed a > couple of years ago with a similar gas, nitrous froze full throttle. > Learn never use it for more than ten seconds. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature > > is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving. > > However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol > > with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ |
Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Sorry about your friend, Bill. The carb is the stock one the Waggy came with
(its going to be replaced with an Edelbrock shortly). The propane unit is heated by a radiator take off, and then goes into a unit which bolts on top of the carb. I had it freeze once at the propane unit when it was very cold outside but the engine just stopped. The carb doesn't seem to get that cold really. Out of interest, how much gas comes out a nitrous bottle during the 10 second shot ? Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@c ox.net> wrote in message news:41376FC5.8BC59EB8@cox.net... > Hi Dave, > The company that made the conversion kit for you are use special > materials. Like the carburetor your using isn't the stock gasoline one > your car came with, as the first kits here in California, that froze, in > ninety degree weather. Remember like your Air Conditioning you are > releasing gas under pressure, which freezes. A friend was killed a > couple of years ago with a similar gas, nitrous froze full throttle. > Learn never use it for more than ten seconds. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature > > is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving. > > However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol > > with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ |
Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Nitrous supplies the oxygen to burn more gasoline. The set up is a
plate that fits under the carburetor, with heated nozzles and solenoids that pour nitrous from one side and another set that shoots more gasoline in from the other side. They come in sizes like this size bolts a hundred and twenty five horse power to your engine: http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...96&prmenbr=361 You'd probably have hundreds of ten second launches. Usually something breaks before your run out of pressure. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > Sorry about your friend, Bill. The carb is the stock one the Waggy came with > (its going to be replaced with an Edelbrock shortly). The propane unit is > heated by a radiator take off, and then goes into a unit which bolts on top > of > the carb. I had it freeze once at the propane unit when it was very cold > outside but the engine just stopped. The carb doesn't seem to get that cold > really. Out of interest, how much gas comes out a nitrous bottle during > the 10 second shot ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Nitrous supplies the oxygen to burn more gasoline. The set up is a
plate that fits under the carburetor, with heated nozzles and solenoids that pour nitrous from one side and another set that shoots more gasoline in from the other side. They come in sizes like this size bolts a hundred and twenty five horse power to your engine: http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...96&prmenbr=361 You'd probably have hundreds of ten second launches. Usually something breaks before your run out of pressure. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > Sorry about your friend, Bill. The carb is the stock one the Waggy came with > (its going to be replaced with an Edelbrock shortly). The propane unit is > heated by a radiator take off, and then goes into a unit which bolts on top > of > the carb. I had it freeze once at the propane unit when it was very cold > outside but the engine just stopped. The carb doesn't seem to get that cold > really. Out of interest, how much gas comes out a nitrous bottle during > the 10 second shot ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
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