Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
08-31-2004, 07:53 PM
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Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
I talked with a guy who has a current 4.0 liter TJ and wants to get
rid of the computer. Never mind why...
Can he get a carbureted manifold for this head and put a points or
electronic distributor in where the stub thing goes now, without major
problems getting the body computer to do its stuff (run the speedo, et
al)? Or use an aftermarket computer to run the FI , its existing
manifold and injectors?
He has a real transmission, but if he had a slushbox, would that be a
big problem?
(I told him to plug the injector holes, put a propane mixer on the
front, and run propane...but he didn't like that idea. In all honesty
propane is more than gas out here and stations are often ******.)
We are both in a state where pretty much anything goes as long as it
still has what resembles a Catalyst in the exhaust. Punching them is a
fine art out here. (Next state over they don't even have inspections!)
rid of the computer. Never mind why...
Can he get a carbureted manifold for this head and put a points or
electronic distributor in where the stub thing goes now, without major
problems getting the body computer to do its stuff (run the speedo, et
al)? Or use an aftermarket computer to run the FI , its existing
manifold and injectors?
He has a real transmission, but if he had a slushbox, would that be a
big problem?
(I told him to plug the injector holes, put a propane mixer on the
front, and run propane...but he didn't like that idea. In all honesty
propane is more than gas out here and stations are often ******.)
We are both in a state where pretty much anything goes as long as it
still has what resembles a Catalyst in the exhaust. Punching them is a
fine art out here. (Next state over they don't even have inspections!)
09-01-2004, 01:07 AM
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
You may trick out the factory computer with Chrysler's DRB-III
scanner tool: http://miller.spx.com/data/DC02-07A.pdf
Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> I talked with a guy who has a current 4.0 liter TJ and wants to get
> rid of the computer. Never mind why...
>
> Can he get a carbureted manifold for this head and put a points or
> electronic distributor in where the stub thing goes now, without major
> problems getting the body computer to do its stuff (run the speedo, et
> al)? Or use an aftermarket computer to run the FI , its existing
> manifold and injectors?
>
> He has a real transmission, but if he had a slushbox, would that be a
> big problem?
>
> (I told him to plug the injector holes, put a propane mixer on the
> front, and run propane...but he didn't like that idea. In all honesty
> propane is more than gas out here and stations are often ******.)
>
> We are both in a state where pretty much anything goes as long as it
> still has what resembles a Catalyst in the exhaust. Punching them is a
> fine art out here. (Next state over they don't even have inspections!)
scanner tool: http://miller.spx.com/data/DC02-07A.pdf
Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> I talked with a guy who has a current 4.0 liter TJ and wants to get
> rid of the computer. Never mind why...
>
> Can he get a carbureted manifold for this head and put a points or
> electronic distributor in where the stub thing goes now, without major
> problems getting the body computer to do its stuff (run the speedo, et
> al)? Or use an aftermarket computer to run the FI , its existing
> manifold and injectors?
>
> He has a real transmission, but if he had a slushbox, would that be a
> big problem?
>
> (I told him to plug the injector holes, put a propane mixer on the
> front, and run propane...but he didn't like that idea. In all honesty
> propane is more than gas out here and stations are often ******.)
>
> We are both in a state where pretty much anything goes as long as it
> still has what resembles a Catalyst in the exhaust. Punching them is a
> fine art out here. (Next state over they don't even have inspections!)
09-01-2004, 01:07 AM
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
You may trick out the factory computer with Chrysler's DRB-III
scanner tool: http://miller.spx.com/data/DC02-07A.pdf
Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> I talked with a guy who has a current 4.0 liter TJ and wants to get
> rid of the computer. Never mind why...
>
> Can he get a carbureted manifold for this head and put a points or
> electronic distributor in where the stub thing goes now, without major
> problems getting the body computer to do its stuff (run the speedo, et
> al)? Or use an aftermarket computer to run the FI , its existing
> manifold and injectors?
>
> He has a real transmission, but if he had a slushbox, would that be a
> big problem?
>
> (I told him to plug the injector holes, put a propane mixer on the
> front, and run propane...but he didn't like that idea. In all honesty
> propane is more than gas out here and stations are often ******.)
>
> We are both in a state where pretty much anything goes as long as it
> still has what resembles a Catalyst in the exhaust. Punching them is a
> fine art out here. (Next state over they don't even have inspections!)
scanner tool: http://miller.spx.com/data/DC02-07A.pdf
Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> I talked with a guy who has a current 4.0 liter TJ and wants to get
> rid of the computer. Never mind why...
>
> Can he get a carbureted manifold for this head and put a points or
> electronic distributor in where the stub thing goes now, without major
> problems getting the body computer to do its stuff (run the speedo, et
> al)? Or use an aftermarket computer to run the FI , its existing
> manifold and injectors?
>
> He has a real transmission, but if he had a slushbox, would that be a
> big problem?
>
> (I told him to plug the injector holes, put a propane mixer on the
> front, and run propane...but he didn't like that idea. In all honesty
> propane is more than gas out here and stations are often ******.)
>
> We are both in a state where pretty much anything goes as long as it
> still has what resembles a Catalyst in the exhaust. Punching them is a
> fine art out here. (Next state over they don't even have inspections!)
09-01-2004, 01:07 AM
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
You may trick out the factory computer with Chrysler's DRB-III
scanner tool: http://miller.spx.com/data/DC02-07A.pdf
Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> I talked with a guy who has a current 4.0 liter TJ and wants to get
> rid of the computer. Never mind why...
>
> Can he get a carbureted manifold for this head and put a points or
> electronic distributor in where the stub thing goes now, without major
> problems getting the body computer to do its stuff (run the speedo, et
> al)? Or use an aftermarket computer to run the FI , its existing
> manifold and injectors?
>
> He has a real transmission, but if he had a slushbox, would that be a
> big problem?
>
> (I told him to plug the injector holes, put a propane mixer on the
> front, and run propane...but he didn't like that idea. In all honesty
> propane is more than gas out here and stations are often ******.)
>
> We are both in a state where pretty much anything goes as long as it
> still has what resembles a Catalyst in the exhaust. Punching them is a
> fine art out here. (Next state over they don't even have inspections!)
scanner tool: http://miller.spx.com/data/DC02-07A.pdf
Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> I talked with a guy who has a current 4.0 liter TJ and wants to get
> rid of the computer. Never mind why...
>
> Can he get a carbureted manifold for this head and put a points or
> electronic distributor in where the stub thing goes now, without major
> problems getting the body computer to do its stuff (run the speedo, et
> al)? Or use an aftermarket computer to run the FI , its existing
> manifold and injectors?
>
> He has a real transmission, but if he had a slushbox, would that be a
> big problem?
>
> (I told him to plug the injector holes, put a propane mixer on the
> front, and run propane...but he didn't like that idea. In all honesty
> propane is more than gas out here and stations are often ******.)
>
> We are both in a state where pretty much anything goes as long as it
> still has what resembles a Catalyst in the exhaust. Punching them is a
> fine art out here. (Next state over they don't even have inspections!)
09-01-2004, 03:20 AM
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
I run propane in my waggy, and I'm still here. No problems with it,
as long as you don't use it until the engine is warm.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver
as long as you don't use it until the engine is warm.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver
09-01-2004, 03:20 AM
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
I run propane in my waggy, and I'm still here. No problems with it,
as long as you don't use it until the engine is warm.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver
as long as you don't use it until the engine is warm.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver
09-01-2004, 03:20 AM
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
I run propane in my waggy, and I'm still here. No problems with it,
as long as you don't use it until the engine is warm.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver
as long as you don't use it until the engine is warm.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
driver
09-01-2004, 04:47 PM
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> driver
Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
couldn't get to it.
Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
gas carburetor setups too.)
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> driver
Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
couldn't get to it.
Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
gas carburetor setups too.)
09-01-2004, 04:47 PM
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> driver
Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
couldn't get to it.
Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
gas carburetor setups too.)
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> driver
Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
couldn't get to it.
Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
gas carburetor setups too.)
09-01-2004, 04:47 PM
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> driver
Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
couldn't get to it.
Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
gas carburetor setups too.)
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> driver
Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
couldn't get to it.
Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
gas carburetor setups too.)