Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 

I like the Weber replacement carburetor for the old Rambler
engines, and they really make the trick VW 2180 cc and larger come to
life, but like your Italians, it takes a Holley to bet a Holley, and
it's the only thing used in Pro Stock drag racing:
http://www.nhra.com/2004/gallery/ps.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Any given engine will make more power with FI than it will with a
> carburetor, because of venturi drop. Really serious normally aspirated
> FI setups use slide throttles so there is no restriction at WOT.
>
> Mechanical fuel injection is sort of a lost art but still can be
> done. As can EFI setups with redundant boxes-race cars do this
> sometimes. EFI gives you full controllability and (with the
> aftermarket box) reprogrammability with a laptop or PDA.
>
> The best carburetor setup for full throttle performance is still the
> IDA or DCOE Weber, one barrel per cylinder. The Italians got it right,
> although a single four barrel Holley on a V-8 is probably easier to
> sort out.

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 

I like the Weber replacement carburetor for the old Rambler
engines, and they really make the trick VW 2180 cc and larger come to
life, but like your Italians, it takes a Holley to bet a Holley, and
it's the only thing used in Pro Stock drag racing:
http://www.nhra.com/2004/gallery/ps.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Any given engine will make more power with FI than it will with a
> carburetor, because of venturi drop. Really serious normally aspirated
> FI setups use slide throttles so there is no restriction at WOT.
>
> Mechanical fuel injection is sort of a lost art but still can be
> done. As can EFI setups with redundant boxes-race cars do this
> sometimes. EFI gives you full controllability and (with the
> aftermarket box) reprogrammability with a laptop or PDA.
>
> The best carburetor setup for full throttle performance is still the
> IDA or DCOE Weber, one barrel per cylinder. The Italians got it right,
> although a single four barrel Holley on a V-8 is probably easier to
> sort out.

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 

Webers, that were popular when I was in high school, in the
fifties, were the 58 mm side drafts and 48 mm down drafts:
http://www.----------.com/weber58-48mm.jpg I even visited their company
in Florence, thinking I could represent their company and maybe they
would give me a couple of the carburetors, in '66 to no avail They ran
better at the time than Hilborn mechanical injection:
http://www.hilborninjection.com/prod...=305&CatId=120 Until
Holley dominated with the 850 cfm and up double pumpers in the early
sixties:
http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...0-80532-1.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I like the Weber replacement carburetor for the old Rambler
> engines, and they really make the trick VW 2180 cc and larger come to
> life, but like your Italians, it takes a Holley to bet a Holley, and
> it's the only thing used in Pro Stock drag racing:
> http://www.nhra.com/2004/gallery/ps.html

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 

Webers, that were popular when I was in high school, in the
fifties, were the 58 mm side drafts and 48 mm down drafts:
http://www.----------.com/weber58-48mm.jpg I even visited their company
in Florence, thinking I could represent their company and maybe they
would give me a couple of the carburetors, in '66 to no avail They ran
better at the time than Hilborn mechanical injection:
http://www.hilborninjection.com/prod...=305&CatId=120 Until
Holley dominated with the 850 cfm and up double pumpers in the early
sixties:
http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...0-80532-1.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I like the Weber replacement carburetor for the old Rambler
> engines, and they really make the trick VW 2180 cc and larger come to
> life, but like your Italians, it takes a Holley to bet a Holley, and
> it's the only thing used in Pro Stock drag racing:
> http://www.nhra.com/2004/gallery/ps.html

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 

Webers, that were popular when I was in high school, in the
fifties, were the 58 mm side drafts and 48 mm down drafts:
http://www.----------.com/weber58-48mm.jpg I even visited their company
in Florence, thinking I could represent their company and maybe they
would give me a couple of the carburetors, in '66 to no avail They ran
better at the time than Hilborn mechanical injection:
http://www.hilborninjection.com/prod...=305&CatId=120 Until
Holley dominated with the 850 cfm and up double pumpers in the early
sixties:
http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...0-80532-1.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I like the Weber replacement carburetor for the old Rambler
> engines, and they really make the trick VW 2180 cc and larger come to
> life, but like your Italians, it takes a Holley to bet a Holley, and
> it's the only thing used in Pro Stock drag racing:
> http://www.nhra.com/2004/gallery/ps.html

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 

For a V-8 or V-6 a Holley four barrel-one size smaller than everyone
else says you need-is the simplest and probably cheapest way to go.
For an inline, nothing but nothing works like the classic sidedraft
Webers. Once you set them up with the right jets, emulsion tubes and
linkage, they stay that way. And they look cool, have a lot of cool
history, and if you look carefully you can get them halfway
reasonable.

But FI is still going to have more flexibility and top end and you
keep those cylinder walls in better shape on shutdown.

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 

For a V-8 or V-6 a Holley four barrel-one size smaller than everyone
else says you need-is the simplest and probably cheapest way to go.
For an inline, nothing but nothing works like the classic sidedraft
Webers. Once you set them up with the right jets, emulsion tubes and
linkage, they stay that way. And they look cool, have a lot of cool
history, and if you look carefully you can get them halfway
reasonable.

But FI is still going to have more flexibility and top end and you
keep those cylinder walls in better shape on shutdown.

Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
 

For a V-8 or V-6 a Holley four barrel-one size smaller than everyone
else says you need-is the simplest and probably cheapest way to go.
For an inline, nothing but nothing works like the classic sidedraft
Webers. Once you set them up with the right jets, emulsion tubes and
linkage, they stay that way. And they look cool, have a lot of cool
history, and if you look carefully you can get them halfway
reasonable.

But FI is still going to have more flexibility and top end and you
keep those cylinder walls in better shape on shutdown.