Ya ready for diesel yet?
#571
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Re: Off Topic Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
You must have been listening to Rush complaining about CNN's coverage. Only
thing is, it doens't sound like either of you actually watched it.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:432A2EA5.83923403@***.net...
> Things I have learned from watching the news about Hurricane Katrina on
> TV
>
> 1. The hurricane only hit black family's property.
>
> 2. New Orleans was devastated and no other city was affected by
> the hurricane.
>
> 3. Mississippi is reported to have a tree blown down.
>
> 4. New Orleans has no white people.
>
> 5. The hurricane blew a limb off a tree in the yard of an Alabama
> resident.
>
> 6. When you are hungry after a hurricane steal a big screen TV.
>
> 7. The hurricane did 23 billion dollars in improvements to New
> Orleans: now the city is
> welfare, looters and gang free and they are in your city.
>
> 8. White folks don't make good news stories.
>
> 9. Don't give thanks to the thousands that came to help rescue you,
> instead
> bitch because the government hasn't given you a debit card yet.
>
> 10. Only black family members got separated in the hurricane rescue
> efforts.
>
> 11. Ignore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get
> you and give
> you money for being stupid.
>
> 12. Damn, I feel so sorry for all those black folks.
>
> 13. Oh, and it is all George Bush's fault.
thing is, it doens't sound like either of you actually watched it.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:432A2EA5.83923403@***.net...
> Things I have learned from watching the news about Hurricane Katrina on
> TV
>
> 1. The hurricane only hit black family's property.
>
> 2. New Orleans was devastated and no other city was affected by
> the hurricane.
>
> 3. Mississippi is reported to have a tree blown down.
>
> 4. New Orleans has no white people.
>
> 5. The hurricane blew a limb off a tree in the yard of an Alabama
> resident.
>
> 6. When you are hungry after a hurricane steal a big screen TV.
>
> 7. The hurricane did 23 billion dollars in improvements to New
> Orleans: now the city is
> welfare, looters and gang free and they are in your city.
>
> 8. White folks don't make good news stories.
>
> 9. Don't give thanks to the thousands that came to help rescue you,
> instead
> bitch because the government hasn't given you a debit card yet.
>
> 10. Only black family members got separated in the hurricane rescue
> efforts.
>
> 11. Ignore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get
> you and give
> you money for being stupid.
>
> 12. Damn, I feel so sorry for all those black folks.
>
> 13. Oh, and it is all George Bush's fault.
#572
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
You must have been listening to Rush complaining about CNN's coverage. Only
thing is, it doens't sound like either of you actually watched it.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:432A2EA5.83923403@***.net...
> Things I have learned from watching the news about Hurricane Katrina on
> TV
>
> 1. The hurricane only hit black family's property.
>
> 2. New Orleans was devastated and no other city was affected by
> the hurricane.
>
> 3. Mississippi is reported to have a tree blown down.
>
> 4. New Orleans has no white people.
>
> 5. The hurricane blew a limb off a tree in the yard of an Alabama
> resident.
>
> 6. When you are hungry after a hurricane steal a big screen TV.
>
> 7. The hurricane did 23 billion dollars in improvements to New
> Orleans: now the city is
> welfare, looters and gang free and they are in your city.
>
> 8. White folks don't make good news stories.
>
> 9. Don't give thanks to the thousands that came to help rescue you,
> instead
> bitch because the government hasn't given you a debit card yet.
>
> 10. Only black family members got separated in the hurricane rescue
> efforts.
>
> 11. Ignore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get
> you and give
> you money for being stupid.
>
> 12. Damn, I feel so sorry for all those black folks.
>
> 13. Oh, and it is all George Bush's fault.
thing is, it doens't sound like either of you actually watched it.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:432A2EA5.83923403@***.net...
> Things I have learned from watching the news about Hurricane Katrina on
> TV
>
> 1. The hurricane only hit black family's property.
>
> 2. New Orleans was devastated and no other city was affected by
> the hurricane.
>
> 3. Mississippi is reported to have a tree blown down.
>
> 4. New Orleans has no white people.
>
> 5. The hurricane blew a limb off a tree in the yard of an Alabama
> resident.
>
> 6. When you are hungry after a hurricane steal a big screen TV.
>
> 7. The hurricane did 23 billion dollars in improvements to New
> Orleans: now the city is
> welfare, looters and gang free and they are in your city.
>
> 8. White folks don't make good news stories.
>
> 9. Don't give thanks to the thousands that came to help rescue you,
> instead
> bitch because the government hasn't given you a debit card yet.
>
> 10. Only black family members got separated in the hurricane rescue
> efforts.
>
> 11. Ignore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get
> you and give
> you money for being stupid.
>
> 12. Damn, I feel so sorry for all those black folks.
>
> 13. Oh, and it is all George Bush's fault.
#573
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
There is enough blame to go around, even at the federal level. Federal
response could have been immediate. They didn't need anyone to ask them for
help. Have you ever read the National Response Plan that was accepted and
implemented in December,2004? You can find it at the Department of Homeland
Security website.
Personally, I could care what they did or didn't do on the local level
before Katrina came ashore. After it came ashore there were people that
needed help, immediate help. Can you imagine if EMTs were to respond to an
accident and were more concerned about who caused it and who was driving
than saving the lives of the injured?
It's embarrassing. "Of the people, by the people, for the people" has
turned into "us against them". Both sides are equally to blame for this.
Most of us wouldn't tolerate this kind of behavior from our children.
On page 43 of the plan is a section titled "Proactive Federal Response to
Catastrophic Events".
The NRP establishes policies, procedures, and mechanisms for proactive
Federal response to catastrophic events. A catastrophic event is any natural
or manmade incident, including terrorism, that results in extraordinary
levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the
population, infrastructure, environment, economy, national morale, and/or
government functions. A catastrophic event could result in sustained
national impacts over a prolonged period of time; almost immediately exceeds
resources normally available to State, local, tribal, and private-sector
authorities in the impacted area; and significantly interrupts governmental
operations and emergency services to such an extent that national security
could be threatened. All catastrophic events are Incidents of National
Significance.
Implementation of Proactive Federal Response Protocols
Protocols for proactive Federal response are most likely to be implemented
for catastrophic events involving chemical, biological, radiological,
nuclear, or high-yield explosive weapons of mass destruction, or large
magnitude earthquakes or other natural or technological disasters in or near
heavily populated areas.
Guiding Principles for Proactive Federal Response
Guiding principles for proactive Federal response include the following:
¡ The primary mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure,
property, and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national
security.
¡ Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited
or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an
event of
catastrophic magnitude.
¡ Identified Federal response resources will deploy and begin necessary
operations as required to commence life-safety activities.
¡ Notification and full coordination with States will occur, but the
coordination process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and use
of critical resources. States are urged to notify and coordinate with local
governments regarding a proactive Federal response.
¡ State and local governments are encouraged to conduct collaborative
planning with the Federal Government as a part of gsteady-stateh
preparedness for catastrophic incidents.
Implementation Mechanisms for Proactive
Federal Response to Catastrophic Events
The NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement (described in the Catastrophic
Incident Annex) addresses resource and procedural implications of
catastrophic events to ensure the rapid and efficient delivery of resources
and assets, including special teams, equipment, and supplies that provide
critical lifesaving support and incident containment capabilities. These
assets may be so specialized or costly that they are either not available or
are in insufficient quantities in most localities.
The procedures outlined in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement are
based on the following:
¡ The pre-identification of Federal assets and capabilities;
¡ The strategic location of pre-identified assets for rapid deployment; and
¡ The use of pre-scripted mission assignments for Stafford Act
declarations, or individual agency authority and funding, to expedite
deployment upon notification by DHS (in accordance with procedures
established in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement) of a potential
catastrophic event.
Agencies responsible for these assets will keep DHS apprised, through the
HSOC, of their ongoing status and location until the JFO is established.
Upon arrival at the scene, Federal assets will coordinate with the Unified
Command, the SFLEO, and the JFO (or its forward elements) when established.
Demobilization processes, including full coordination with the JFO
Coordination Group, are initiated either when the mission is completed or
when it is determined the magnitude of the event does not warrant continued
use of the asset.
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-07F596.20133415092005@news.verizon.net...
> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-pP29dSyHghRZ@anon.none.net>,
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> He might as well move. Some pretty big guns are trained on the
>> bullseye he sits on about now.
>>
>> I still think he did one helluva job getting the evacuation
>> accomplished - but he won a battle at the cost of the war.
>>
>
> Will, you are being sarcastic, right? Mayor Nagin & his emergency chief,
> Ebbert, didn't even attempt to implement the evacuation plan. Did you
> see all those buses sitting flooded? They were supposed to take people
> out of the city, according to the city's official plan.
>
> B
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
response could have been immediate. They didn't need anyone to ask them for
help. Have you ever read the National Response Plan that was accepted and
implemented in December,2004? You can find it at the Department of Homeland
Security website.
Personally, I could care what they did or didn't do on the local level
before Katrina came ashore. After it came ashore there were people that
needed help, immediate help. Can you imagine if EMTs were to respond to an
accident and were more concerned about who caused it and who was driving
than saving the lives of the injured?
It's embarrassing. "Of the people, by the people, for the people" has
turned into "us against them". Both sides are equally to blame for this.
Most of us wouldn't tolerate this kind of behavior from our children.
On page 43 of the plan is a section titled "Proactive Federal Response to
Catastrophic Events".
The NRP establishes policies, procedures, and mechanisms for proactive
Federal response to catastrophic events. A catastrophic event is any natural
or manmade incident, including terrorism, that results in extraordinary
levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the
population, infrastructure, environment, economy, national morale, and/or
government functions. A catastrophic event could result in sustained
national impacts over a prolonged period of time; almost immediately exceeds
resources normally available to State, local, tribal, and private-sector
authorities in the impacted area; and significantly interrupts governmental
operations and emergency services to such an extent that national security
could be threatened. All catastrophic events are Incidents of National
Significance.
Implementation of Proactive Federal Response Protocols
Protocols for proactive Federal response are most likely to be implemented
for catastrophic events involving chemical, biological, radiological,
nuclear, or high-yield explosive weapons of mass destruction, or large
magnitude earthquakes or other natural or technological disasters in or near
heavily populated areas.
Guiding Principles for Proactive Federal Response
Guiding principles for proactive Federal response include the following:
¡ The primary mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure,
property, and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national
security.
¡ Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited
or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an
event of
catastrophic magnitude.
¡ Identified Federal response resources will deploy and begin necessary
operations as required to commence life-safety activities.
¡ Notification and full coordination with States will occur, but the
coordination process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and use
of critical resources. States are urged to notify and coordinate with local
governments regarding a proactive Federal response.
¡ State and local governments are encouraged to conduct collaborative
planning with the Federal Government as a part of gsteady-stateh
preparedness for catastrophic incidents.
Implementation Mechanisms for Proactive
Federal Response to Catastrophic Events
The NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement (described in the Catastrophic
Incident Annex) addresses resource and procedural implications of
catastrophic events to ensure the rapid and efficient delivery of resources
and assets, including special teams, equipment, and supplies that provide
critical lifesaving support and incident containment capabilities. These
assets may be so specialized or costly that they are either not available or
are in insufficient quantities in most localities.
The procedures outlined in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement are
based on the following:
¡ The pre-identification of Federal assets and capabilities;
¡ The strategic location of pre-identified assets for rapid deployment; and
¡ The use of pre-scripted mission assignments for Stafford Act
declarations, or individual agency authority and funding, to expedite
deployment upon notification by DHS (in accordance with procedures
established in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement) of a potential
catastrophic event.
Agencies responsible for these assets will keep DHS apprised, through the
HSOC, of their ongoing status and location until the JFO is established.
Upon arrival at the scene, Federal assets will coordinate with the Unified
Command, the SFLEO, and the JFO (or its forward elements) when established.
Demobilization processes, including full coordination with the JFO
Coordination Group, are initiated either when the mission is completed or
when it is determined the magnitude of the event does not warrant continued
use of the asset.
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-07F596.20133415092005@news.verizon.net...
> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-pP29dSyHghRZ@anon.none.net>,
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> He might as well move. Some pretty big guns are trained on the
>> bullseye he sits on about now.
>>
>> I still think he did one helluva job getting the evacuation
>> accomplished - but he won a battle at the cost of the war.
>>
>
> Will, you are being sarcastic, right? Mayor Nagin & his emergency chief,
> Ebbert, didn't even attempt to implement the evacuation plan. Did you
> see all those buses sitting flooded? They were supposed to take people
> out of the city, according to the city's official plan.
>
> B
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
#574
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
There is enough blame to go around, even at the federal level. Federal
response could have been immediate. They didn't need anyone to ask them for
help. Have you ever read the National Response Plan that was accepted and
implemented in December,2004? You can find it at the Department of Homeland
Security website.
Personally, I could care what they did or didn't do on the local level
before Katrina came ashore. After it came ashore there were people that
needed help, immediate help. Can you imagine if EMTs were to respond to an
accident and were more concerned about who caused it and who was driving
than saving the lives of the injured?
It's embarrassing. "Of the people, by the people, for the people" has
turned into "us against them". Both sides are equally to blame for this.
Most of us wouldn't tolerate this kind of behavior from our children.
On page 43 of the plan is a section titled "Proactive Federal Response to
Catastrophic Events".
The NRP establishes policies, procedures, and mechanisms for proactive
Federal response to catastrophic events. A catastrophic event is any natural
or manmade incident, including terrorism, that results in extraordinary
levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the
population, infrastructure, environment, economy, national morale, and/or
government functions. A catastrophic event could result in sustained
national impacts over a prolonged period of time; almost immediately exceeds
resources normally available to State, local, tribal, and private-sector
authorities in the impacted area; and significantly interrupts governmental
operations and emergency services to such an extent that national security
could be threatened. All catastrophic events are Incidents of National
Significance.
Implementation of Proactive Federal Response Protocols
Protocols for proactive Federal response are most likely to be implemented
for catastrophic events involving chemical, biological, radiological,
nuclear, or high-yield explosive weapons of mass destruction, or large
magnitude earthquakes or other natural or technological disasters in or near
heavily populated areas.
Guiding Principles for Proactive Federal Response
Guiding principles for proactive Federal response include the following:
¡ The primary mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure,
property, and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national
security.
¡ Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited
or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an
event of
catastrophic magnitude.
¡ Identified Federal response resources will deploy and begin necessary
operations as required to commence life-safety activities.
¡ Notification and full coordination with States will occur, but the
coordination process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and use
of critical resources. States are urged to notify and coordinate with local
governments regarding a proactive Federal response.
¡ State and local governments are encouraged to conduct collaborative
planning with the Federal Government as a part of gsteady-stateh
preparedness for catastrophic incidents.
Implementation Mechanisms for Proactive
Federal Response to Catastrophic Events
The NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement (described in the Catastrophic
Incident Annex) addresses resource and procedural implications of
catastrophic events to ensure the rapid and efficient delivery of resources
and assets, including special teams, equipment, and supplies that provide
critical lifesaving support and incident containment capabilities. These
assets may be so specialized or costly that they are either not available or
are in insufficient quantities in most localities.
The procedures outlined in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement are
based on the following:
¡ The pre-identification of Federal assets and capabilities;
¡ The strategic location of pre-identified assets for rapid deployment; and
¡ The use of pre-scripted mission assignments for Stafford Act
declarations, or individual agency authority and funding, to expedite
deployment upon notification by DHS (in accordance with procedures
established in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement) of a potential
catastrophic event.
Agencies responsible for these assets will keep DHS apprised, through the
HSOC, of their ongoing status and location until the JFO is established.
Upon arrival at the scene, Federal assets will coordinate with the Unified
Command, the SFLEO, and the JFO (or its forward elements) when established.
Demobilization processes, including full coordination with the JFO
Coordination Group, are initiated either when the mission is completed or
when it is determined the magnitude of the event does not warrant continued
use of the asset.
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-07F596.20133415092005@news.verizon.net...
> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-pP29dSyHghRZ@anon.none.net>,
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> He might as well move. Some pretty big guns are trained on the
>> bullseye he sits on about now.
>>
>> I still think he did one helluva job getting the evacuation
>> accomplished - but he won a battle at the cost of the war.
>>
>
> Will, you are being sarcastic, right? Mayor Nagin & his emergency chief,
> Ebbert, didn't even attempt to implement the evacuation plan. Did you
> see all those buses sitting flooded? They were supposed to take people
> out of the city, according to the city's official plan.
>
> B
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
response could have been immediate. They didn't need anyone to ask them for
help. Have you ever read the National Response Plan that was accepted and
implemented in December,2004? You can find it at the Department of Homeland
Security website.
Personally, I could care what they did or didn't do on the local level
before Katrina came ashore. After it came ashore there were people that
needed help, immediate help. Can you imagine if EMTs were to respond to an
accident and were more concerned about who caused it and who was driving
than saving the lives of the injured?
It's embarrassing. "Of the people, by the people, for the people" has
turned into "us against them". Both sides are equally to blame for this.
Most of us wouldn't tolerate this kind of behavior from our children.
On page 43 of the plan is a section titled "Proactive Federal Response to
Catastrophic Events".
The NRP establishes policies, procedures, and mechanisms for proactive
Federal response to catastrophic events. A catastrophic event is any natural
or manmade incident, including terrorism, that results in extraordinary
levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the
population, infrastructure, environment, economy, national morale, and/or
government functions. A catastrophic event could result in sustained
national impacts over a prolonged period of time; almost immediately exceeds
resources normally available to State, local, tribal, and private-sector
authorities in the impacted area; and significantly interrupts governmental
operations and emergency services to such an extent that national security
could be threatened. All catastrophic events are Incidents of National
Significance.
Implementation of Proactive Federal Response Protocols
Protocols for proactive Federal response are most likely to be implemented
for catastrophic events involving chemical, biological, radiological,
nuclear, or high-yield explosive weapons of mass destruction, or large
magnitude earthquakes or other natural or technological disasters in or near
heavily populated areas.
Guiding Principles for Proactive Federal Response
Guiding principles for proactive Federal response include the following:
¡ The primary mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure,
property, and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national
security.
¡ Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited
or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an
event of
catastrophic magnitude.
¡ Identified Federal response resources will deploy and begin necessary
operations as required to commence life-safety activities.
¡ Notification and full coordination with States will occur, but the
coordination process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and use
of critical resources. States are urged to notify and coordinate with local
governments regarding a proactive Federal response.
¡ State and local governments are encouraged to conduct collaborative
planning with the Federal Government as a part of gsteady-stateh
preparedness for catastrophic incidents.
Implementation Mechanisms for Proactive
Federal Response to Catastrophic Events
The NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement (described in the Catastrophic
Incident Annex) addresses resource and procedural implications of
catastrophic events to ensure the rapid and efficient delivery of resources
and assets, including special teams, equipment, and supplies that provide
critical lifesaving support and incident containment capabilities. These
assets may be so specialized or costly that they are either not available or
are in insufficient quantities in most localities.
The procedures outlined in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement are
based on the following:
¡ The pre-identification of Federal assets and capabilities;
¡ The strategic location of pre-identified assets for rapid deployment; and
¡ The use of pre-scripted mission assignments for Stafford Act
declarations, or individual agency authority and funding, to expedite
deployment upon notification by DHS (in accordance with procedures
established in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement) of a potential
catastrophic event.
Agencies responsible for these assets will keep DHS apprised, through the
HSOC, of their ongoing status and location until the JFO is established.
Upon arrival at the scene, Federal assets will coordinate with the Unified
Command, the SFLEO, and the JFO (or its forward elements) when established.
Demobilization processes, including full coordination with the JFO
Coordination Group, are initiated either when the mission is completed or
when it is determined the magnitude of the event does not warrant continued
use of the asset.
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-07F596.20133415092005@news.verizon.net...
> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-pP29dSyHghRZ@anon.none.net>,
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> He might as well move. Some pretty big guns are trained on the
>> bullseye he sits on about now.
>>
>> I still think he did one helluva job getting the evacuation
>> accomplished - but he won a battle at the cost of the war.
>>
>
> Will, you are being sarcastic, right? Mayor Nagin & his emergency chief,
> Ebbert, didn't even attempt to implement the evacuation plan. Did you
> see all those buses sitting flooded? They were supposed to take people
> out of the city, according to the city's official plan.
>
> B
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
#575
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
There is enough blame to go around, even at the federal level. Federal
response could have been immediate. They didn't need anyone to ask them for
help. Have you ever read the National Response Plan that was accepted and
implemented in December,2004? You can find it at the Department of Homeland
Security website.
Personally, I could care what they did or didn't do on the local level
before Katrina came ashore. After it came ashore there were people that
needed help, immediate help. Can you imagine if EMTs were to respond to an
accident and were more concerned about who caused it and who was driving
than saving the lives of the injured?
It's embarrassing. "Of the people, by the people, for the people" has
turned into "us against them". Both sides are equally to blame for this.
Most of us wouldn't tolerate this kind of behavior from our children.
On page 43 of the plan is a section titled "Proactive Federal Response to
Catastrophic Events".
The NRP establishes policies, procedures, and mechanisms for proactive
Federal response to catastrophic events. A catastrophic event is any natural
or manmade incident, including terrorism, that results in extraordinary
levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the
population, infrastructure, environment, economy, national morale, and/or
government functions. A catastrophic event could result in sustained
national impacts over a prolonged period of time; almost immediately exceeds
resources normally available to State, local, tribal, and private-sector
authorities in the impacted area; and significantly interrupts governmental
operations and emergency services to such an extent that national security
could be threatened. All catastrophic events are Incidents of National
Significance.
Implementation of Proactive Federal Response Protocols
Protocols for proactive Federal response are most likely to be implemented
for catastrophic events involving chemical, biological, radiological,
nuclear, or high-yield explosive weapons of mass destruction, or large
magnitude earthquakes or other natural or technological disasters in or near
heavily populated areas.
Guiding Principles for Proactive Federal Response
Guiding principles for proactive Federal response include the following:
¡ The primary mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure,
property, and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national
security.
¡ Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited
or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an
event of
catastrophic magnitude.
¡ Identified Federal response resources will deploy and begin necessary
operations as required to commence life-safety activities.
¡ Notification and full coordination with States will occur, but the
coordination process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and use
of critical resources. States are urged to notify and coordinate with local
governments regarding a proactive Federal response.
¡ State and local governments are encouraged to conduct collaborative
planning with the Federal Government as a part of gsteady-stateh
preparedness for catastrophic incidents.
Implementation Mechanisms for Proactive
Federal Response to Catastrophic Events
The NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement (described in the Catastrophic
Incident Annex) addresses resource and procedural implications of
catastrophic events to ensure the rapid and efficient delivery of resources
and assets, including special teams, equipment, and supplies that provide
critical lifesaving support and incident containment capabilities. These
assets may be so specialized or costly that they are either not available or
are in insufficient quantities in most localities.
The procedures outlined in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement are
based on the following:
¡ The pre-identification of Federal assets and capabilities;
¡ The strategic location of pre-identified assets for rapid deployment; and
¡ The use of pre-scripted mission assignments for Stafford Act
declarations, or individual agency authority and funding, to expedite
deployment upon notification by DHS (in accordance with procedures
established in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement) of a potential
catastrophic event.
Agencies responsible for these assets will keep DHS apprised, through the
HSOC, of their ongoing status and location until the JFO is established.
Upon arrival at the scene, Federal assets will coordinate with the Unified
Command, the SFLEO, and the JFO (or its forward elements) when established.
Demobilization processes, including full coordination with the JFO
Coordination Group, are initiated either when the mission is completed or
when it is determined the magnitude of the event does not warrant continued
use of the asset.
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-07F596.20133415092005@news.verizon.net...
> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-pP29dSyHghRZ@anon.none.net>,
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> He might as well move. Some pretty big guns are trained on the
>> bullseye he sits on about now.
>>
>> I still think he did one helluva job getting the evacuation
>> accomplished - but he won a battle at the cost of the war.
>>
>
> Will, you are being sarcastic, right? Mayor Nagin & his emergency chief,
> Ebbert, didn't even attempt to implement the evacuation plan. Did you
> see all those buses sitting flooded? They were supposed to take people
> out of the city, according to the city's official plan.
>
> B
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
response could have been immediate. They didn't need anyone to ask them for
help. Have you ever read the National Response Plan that was accepted and
implemented in December,2004? You can find it at the Department of Homeland
Security website.
Personally, I could care what they did or didn't do on the local level
before Katrina came ashore. After it came ashore there were people that
needed help, immediate help. Can you imagine if EMTs were to respond to an
accident and were more concerned about who caused it and who was driving
than saving the lives of the injured?
It's embarrassing. "Of the people, by the people, for the people" has
turned into "us against them". Both sides are equally to blame for this.
Most of us wouldn't tolerate this kind of behavior from our children.
On page 43 of the plan is a section titled "Proactive Federal Response to
Catastrophic Events".
The NRP establishes policies, procedures, and mechanisms for proactive
Federal response to catastrophic events. A catastrophic event is any natural
or manmade incident, including terrorism, that results in extraordinary
levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the
population, infrastructure, environment, economy, national morale, and/or
government functions. A catastrophic event could result in sustained
national impacts over a prolonged period of time; almost immediately exceeds
resources normally available to State, local, tribal, and private-sector
authorities in the impacted area; and significantly interrupts governmental
operations and emergency services to such an extent that national security
could be threatened. All catastrophic events are Incidents of National
Significance.
Implementation of Proactive Federal Response Protocols
Protocols for proactive Federal response are most likely to be implemented
for catastrophic events involving chemical, biological, radiological,
nuclear, or high-yield explosive weapons of mass destruction, or large
magnitude earthquakes or other natural or technological disasters in or near
heavily populated areas.
Guiding Principles for Proactive Federal Response
Guiding principles for proactive Federal response include the following:
¡ The primary mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure,
property, and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national
security.
¡ Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited
or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an
event of
catastrophic magnitude.
¡ Identified Federal response resources will deploy and begin necessary
operations as required to commence life-safety activities.
¡ Notification and full coordination with States will occur, but the
coordination process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and use
of critical resources. States are urged to notify and coordinate with local
governments regarding a proactive Federal response.
¡ State and local governments are encouraged to conduct collaborative
planning with the Federal Government as a part of gsteady-stateh
preparedness for catastrophic incidents.
Implementation Mechanisms for Proactive
Federal Response to Catastrophic Events
The NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement (described in the Catastrophic
Incident Annex) addresses resource and procedural implications of
catastrophic events to ensure the rapid and efficient delivery of resources
and assets, including special teams, equipment, and supplies that provide
critical lifesaving support and incident containment capabilities. These
assets may be so specialized or costly that they are either not available or
are in insufficient quantities in most localities.
The procedures outlined in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement are
based on the following:
¡ The pre-identification of Federal assets and capabilities;
¡ The strategic location of pre-identified assets for rapid deployment; and
¡ The use of pre-scripted mission assignments for Stafford Act
declarations, or individual agency authority and funding, to expedite
deployment upon notification by DHS (in accordance with procedures
established in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement) of a potential
catastrophic event.
Agencies responsible for these assets will keep DHS apprised, through the
HSOC, of their ongoing status and location until the JFO is established.
Upon arrival at the scene, Federal assets will coordinate with the Unified
Command, the SFLEO, and the JFO (or its forward elements) when established.
Demobilization processes, including full coordination with the JFO
Coordination Group, are initiated either when the mission is completed or
when it is determined the magnitude of the event does not warrant continued
use of the asset.
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-07F596.20133415092005@news.verizon.net...
> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-pP29dSyHghRZ@anon.none.net>,
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> He might as well move. Some pretty big guns are trained on the
>> bullseye he sits on about now.
>>
>> I still think he did one helluva job getting the evacuation
>> accomplished - but he won a battle at the cost of the war.
>>
>
> Will, you are being sarcastic, right? Mayor Nagin & his emergency chief,
> Ebbert, didn't even attempt to implement the evacuation plan. Did you
> see all those buses sitting flooded? They were supposed to take people
> out of the city, according to the city's official plan.
>
> B
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
#576
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
The cell phones worked for the San Francisco earthquake, the one
many quakes back for the Baseball Series.
They're still fighting over the three thousand homes burned in our
last forest fire a couple of years ago. Even the city has jammed it up
by requiring new zoning laws apply like seventy thousand dollar sewer,
and another for sidewalks and fire hydrants, like there's another half a
million in extras to rebuild.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Good for you, assuming the phones work. Think you'll be rebuilt in a week?
many quakes back for the Baseball Series.
They're still fighting over the three thousand homes burned in our
last forest fire a couple of years ago. Even the city has jammed it up
by requiring new zoning laws apply like seventy thousand dollar sewer,
and another for sidewalks and fire hydrants, like there's another half a
million in extras to rebuild.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Good for you, assuming the phones work. Think you'll be rebuilt in a week?
#577
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
The cell phones worked for the San Francisco earthquake, the one
many quakes back for the Baseball Series.
They're still fighting over the three thousand homes burned in our
last forest fire a couple of years ago. Even the city has jammed it up
by requiring new zoning laws apply like seventy thousand dollar sewer,
and another for sidewalks and fire hydrants, like there's another half a
million in extras to rebuild.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Good for you, assuming the phones work. Think you'll be rebuilt in a week?
many quakes back for the Baseball Series.
They're still fighting over the three thousand homes burned in our
last forest fire a couple of years ago. Even the city has jammed it up
by requiring new zoning laws apply like seventy thousand dollar sewer,
and another for sidewalks and fire hydrants, like there's another half a
million in extras to rebuild.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Good for you, assuming the phones work. Think you'll be rebuilt in a week?
#578
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
The cell phones worked for the San Francisco earthquake, the one
many quakes back for the Baseball Series.
They're still fighting over the three thousand homes burned in our
last forest fire a couple of years ago. Even the city has jammed it up
by requiring new zoning laws apply like seventy thousand dollar sewer,
and another for sidewalks and fire hydrants, like there's another half a
million in extras to rebuild.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Good for you, assuming the phones work. Think you'll be rebuilt in a week?
many quakes back for the Baseball Series.
They're still fighting over the three thousand homes burned in our
last forest fire a couple of years ago. Even the city has jammed it up
by requiring new zoning laws apply like seventy thousand dollar sewer,
and another for sidewalks and fire hydrants, like there's another half a
million in extras to rebuild.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Good for you, assuming the phones work. Think you'll be rebuilt in a week?
#579
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
I get a couple less mpg with propane than I do with petrol.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:a45d7$432866fe$d8449845$32079@FUSE.NET...
> How many miles do they get per tankful?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Earle Horton" <nursebusters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1126719846.117660.209990@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I don't think that anyone has mentioned the rural delivery LPG tank
> trucks yet. They all run on propane. They just tap off the delivery
> tank. There are lots of those about.
>
> What we really need around here, is a vehicle that runs on hot air.
>
> Earle
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > "Nevada: Yellow-Checker-Star Transportation in Las Vegas, Nevada,
operates
> > 585 propane-powered taxis that travel 50 million miles per year. Over
> > 2,000
> > vehicles have been converted to propane since 1981. Since then, over 1
> > billion miles have been logged by these propane-fueled taxicabs. "
> >
> > http://www.propanecouncil.org/trade/...ane_fleets.htm
> >
> > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:43272A7F.A497F8BA@***.net...
> > > So which is it? You haven't been to Los Wages in thirty years, or
> > > they still drive thirty year old cars?
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hop on over to Vegas, Bill, many of the taxicabs there are LPG
> > >> powered...
>
>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:a45d7$432866fe$d8449845$32079@FUSE.NET...
> How many miles do they get per tankful?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Earle Horton" <nursebusters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1126719846.117660.209990@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I don't think that anyone has mentioned the rural delivery LPG tank
> trucks yet. They all run on propane. They just tap off the delivery
> tank. There are lots of those about.
>
> What we really need around here, is a vehicle that runs on hot air.
>
> Earle
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > "Nevada: Yellow-Checker-Star Transportation in Las Vegas, Nevada,
operates
> > 585 propane-powered taxis that travel 50 million miles per year. Over
> > 2,000
> > vehicles have been converted to propane since 1981. Since then, over 1
> > billion miles have been logged by these propane-fueled taxicabs. "
> >
> > http://www.propanecouncil.org/trade/...ane_fleets.htm
> >
> > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:43272A7F.A497F8BA@***.net...
> > > So which is it? You haven't been to Los Wages in thirty years, or
> > > they still drive thirty year old cars?
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hop on over to Vegas, Bill, many of the taxicabs there are LPG
> > >> powered...
>
>
#580
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
I get a couple less mpg with propane than I do with petrol.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:a45d7$432866fe$d8449845$32079@FUSE.NET...
> How many miles do they get per tankful?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Earle Horton" <nursebusters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1126719846.117660.209990@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I don't think that anyone has mentioned the rural delivery LPG tank
> trucks yet. They all run on propane. They just tap off the delivery
> tank. There are lots of those about.
>
> What we really need around here, is a vehicle that runs on hot air.
>
> Earle
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > "Nevada: Yellow-Checker-Star Transportation in Las Vegas, Nevada,
operates
> > 585 propane-powered taxis that travel 50 million miles per year. Over
> > 2,000
> > vehicles have been converted to propane since 1981. Since then, over 1
> > billion miles have been logged by these propane-fueled taxicabs. "
> >
> > http://www.propanecouncil.org/trade/...ane_fleets.htm
> >
> > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:43272A7F.A497F8BA@***.net...
> > > So which is it? You haven't been to Los Wages in thirty years, or
> > > they still drive thirty year old cars?
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hop on over to Vegas, Bill, many of the taxicabs there are LPG
> > >> powered...
>
>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:a45d7$432866fe$d8449845$32079@FUSE.NET...
> How many miles do they get per tankful?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Earle Horton" <nursebusters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1126719846.117660.209990@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I don't think that anyone has mentioned the rural delivery LPG tank
> trucks yet. They all run on propane. They just tap off the delivery
> tank. There are lots of those about.
>
> What we really need around here, is a vehicle that runs on hot air.
>
> Earle
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > "Nevada: Yellow-Checker-Star Transportation in Las Vegas, Nevada,
operates
> > 585 propane-powered taxis that travel 50 million miles per year. Over
> > 2,000
> > vehicles have been converted to propane since 1981. Since then, over 1
> > billion miles have been logged by these propane-fueled taxicabs. "
> >
> > http://www.propanecouncil.org/trade/...ane_fleets.htm
> >
> > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:43272A7F.A497F8BA@***.net...
> > > So which is it? You haven't been to Los Wages in thirty years, or
> > > they still drive thirty year old cars?
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hop on over to Vegas, Bill, many of the taxicabs there are LPG
> > >> powered...
>
>