Ya ready for diesel yet?
#161
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
Actually Dave,
If a diesel sucks water it is going to blow out a cylinder wall, while a
gasoline engine will probably just lock up from hydrostatic pressure, or
maybe bend a rod. So the choice is cylinder or block replacement (diesel)
or possible rod replacement (gasoline). If you read one of my earlier
postings I drove a Honda Civic under water three times, and it still came
back for more.
I am not real worried about the price of gasoline in the U.S. It is still
half of what people are paying here. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of
the night, worrying that British Airways won't honor my return ticket,
because all the infrastructure in the U.S. has collapsed, and there is no
place for them to land there. But then I roll over, thinking that that
wouldn't be so bad.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:GnmTe.103636$G8.25776@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe.
> For offroading its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they aren't
> affected by water as badly.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:_OidnZ2dnZ2dVEPRnZ2dnSxBgN6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...
> > Why? Diesel in my area costs $0.30 MORE than gasoline.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1125968983.515107.327190@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like ßill,
> > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course when
> > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> >
>
>
If a diesel sucks water it is going to blow out a cylinder wall, while a
gasoline engine will probably just lock up from hydrostatic pressure, or
maybe bend a rod. So the choice is cylinder or block replacement (diesel)
or possible rod replacement (gasoline). If you read one of my earlier
postings I drove a Honda Civic under water three times, and it still came
back for more.
I am not real worried about the price of gasoline in the U.S. It is still
half of what people are paying here. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of
the night, worrying that British Airways won't honor my return ticket,
because all the infrastructure in the U.S. has collapsed, and there is no
place for them to land there. But then I roll over, thinking that that
wouldn't be so bad.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:GnmTe.103636$G8.25776@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe.
> For offroading its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they aren't
> affected by water as badly.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:_OidnZ2dnZ2dVEPRnZ2dnSxBgN6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...
> > Why? Diesel in my area costs $0.30 MORE than gasoline.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1125968983.515107.327190@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like ßill,
> > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course when
> > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> >
>
>
#162
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> That is total bullsh*t! Every fuel has a different BTUs of energy,
> just like when the hot rodder switches from gasoline to a alcohol he
> must drill the jets out to twice the size to pass four time the fuel.
> That just so..... basic!
>
You are too dense to talk to really. Biodiesel has approximately the
same heat value as petroleum diesel and therefore mechanical diesels
produce approximately the same power on approximately the same fuel
flow. There are always slight variations in heat content from batch to
batch and therefore a mechanical diesel will vary slightly in peak
torque and HP, just as if you are running #1, #2, or whatever. That's
why all performance and emissions testing on diesels is done on a fuel
of precise specification.
This is all well documented in the link I provided, you just read the
first paragraph and decided it didn't agree with what you thought and
went off.
#163
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> That is total bullsh*t! Every fuel has a different BTUs of energy,
> just like when the hot rodder switches from gasoline to a alcohol he
> must drill the jets out to twice the size to pass four time the fuel.
> That just so..... basic!
>
You are too dense to talk to really. Biodiesel has approximately the
same heat value as petroleum diesel and therefore mechanical diesels
produce approximately the same power on approximately the same fuel
flow. There are always slight variations in heat content from batch to
batch and therefore a mechanical diesel will vary slightly in peak
torque and HP, just as if you are running #1, #2, or whatever. That's
why all performance and emissions testing on diesels is done on a fuel
of precise specification.
This is all well documented in the link I provided, you just read the
first paragraph and decided it didn't agree with what you thought and
went off.
#164
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> That is total bullsh*t! Every fuel has a different BTUs of energy,
> just like when the hot rodder switches from gasoline to a alcohol he
> must drill the jets out to twice the size to pass four time the fuel.
> That just so..... basic!
>
You are too dense to talk to really. Biodiesel has approximately the
same heat value as petroleum diesel and therefore mechanical diesels
produce approximately the same power on approximately the same fuel
flow. There are always slight variations in heat content from batch to
batch and therefore a mechanical diesel will vary slightly in peak
torque and HP, just as if you are running #1, #2, or whatever. That's
why all performance and emissions testing on diesels is done on a fuel
of precise specification.
This is all well documented in the link I provided, you just read the
first paragraph and decided it didn't agree with what you thought and
went off.
#165
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> That is total bullsh*t! Every fuel has a different BTUs of energy,
> just like when the hot rodder switches from gasoline to a alcohol he
> must drill the jets out to twice the size to pass four time the fuel.
> That just so..... basic!
>
You are too dense to talk to really. Biodiesel has approximately the
same heat value as petroleum diesel and therefore mechanical diesels
produce approximately the same power on approximately the same fuel
flow. There are always slight variations in heat content from batch to
batch and therefore a mechanical diesel will vary slightly in peak
torque and HP, just as if you are running #1, #2, or whatever. That's
why all performance and emissions testing on diesels is done on a fuel
of precise specification.
This is all well documented in the link I provided, you just read the
first paragraph and decided it didn't agree with what you thought and
went off.
#170
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
>>"Diesel cars and trucks are efficient, low maintenance and, advocates claim, environmentally friendly. But is diesel really better for our surroundings? Maybe not.
Diesel engines do emit less carbon monoxide than regular gas motors.
But diesel engines also produce up to 100 times more soot, and these
soot particles are much tinier than the ones in ordinary exhaust.
They're so small, in fact, that the natural filters in our noses and
airways don't always catch them. The result: Diesel soot often is
inhaled deep into our lungs.
Now researchers in Europe claim to have discovered that just one hour's
exposure to diesel fumes leads to inflammation in the lungs -- the kind
experts fear may be related to asthma. Even worse, many investigators
suspect that diesel fumes might even cause lung cancer.
Until we manage to make diesel less dirty, you might want to avoid
breathing fumes from buses and trucks. And drivers, do us a favor: Turn
off those idling engines."<<
If diesel soot was so dangerous the cancer rate would have skyrocketed
when steam trains were replaced by diesels which pulled in to train
stations. Get the sulfur out of the diesel like Europe did and the US
military has and diesel will be far less offensive than catalytic
converter sulfur stink.
Diesel engines do emit less carbon monoxide than regular gas motors.
But diesel engines also produce up to 100 times more soot, and these
soot particles are much tinier than the ones in ordinary exhaust.
They're so small, in fact, that the natural filters in our noses and
airways don't always catch them. The result: Diesel soot often is
inhaled deep into our lungs.
Now researchers in Europe claim to have discovered that just one hour's
exposure to diesel fumes leads to inflammation in the lungs -- the kind
experts fear may be related to asthma. Even worse, many investigators
suspect that diesel fumes might even cause lung cancer.
Until we manage to make diesel less dirty, you might want to avoid
breathing fumes from buses and trucks. And drivers, do us a favor: Turn
off those idling engines."<<
If diesel soot was so dangerous the cancer rate would have skyrocketed
when steam trains were replaced by diesels which pulled in to train
stations. Get the sulfur out of the diesel like Europe did and the US
military has and diesel will be far less offensive than catalytic
converter sulfur stink.