Ya ready for diesel yet?
#111
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires between 2
and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
have an engine that runs extremely rich.
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E3F7B.74652A51@***.net...
> That is total bullsh*t! Every fuel has a different BTUs of energy,
> just like when the hot rodder switches from gasoline to a alcohol he
> must drill the jets out to twice the size to pass four time the fuel.
> That just so..... basic!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > The same injectors and pump settings are used for conventional or
> > biodiesel. No one changes this.
> >
> > Most truckers have less knowledge of diesel fuel control systems than
> > they do of gynecology. "Buttons" are Cummins parlance for a sized part
> > controlling fuel delivery in the PT fuel system, which along with
> > Detroit racks is a thing of interest only to antique collectors and a
> > few off-road operators today.
and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
have an engine that runs extremely rich.
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E3F7B.74652A51@***.net...
> That is total bullsh*t! Every fuel has a different BTUs of energy,
> just like when the hot rodder switches from gasoline to a alcohol he
> must drill the jets out to twice the size to pass four time the fuel.
> That just so..... basic!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > The same injectors and pump settings are used for conventional or
> > biodiesel. No one changes this.
> >
> > Most truckers have less knowledge of diesel fuel control systems than
> > they do of gynecology. "Buttons" are Cummins parlance for a sized part
> > controlling fuel delivery in the PT fuel system, which along with
> > Detroit racks is a thing of interest only to antique collectors and a
> > few off-road operators today.
#112
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires between 2
and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
have an engine that runs extremely rich.
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E3F7B.74652A51@***.net...
> That is total bullsh*t! Every fuel has a different BTUs of energy,
> just like when the hot rodder switches from gasoline to a alcohol he
> must drill the jets out to twice the size to pass four time the fuel.
> That just so..... basic!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > The same injectors and pump settings are used for conventional or
> > biodiesel. No one changes this.
> >
> > Most truckers have less knowledge of diesel fuel control systems than
> > they do of gynecology. "Buttons" are Cummins parlance for a sized part
> > controlling fuel delivery in the PT fuel system, which along with
> > Detroit racks is a thing of interest only to antique collectors and a
> > few off-road operators today.
and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
have an engine that runs extremely rich.
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E3F7B.74652A51@***.net...
> That is total bullsh*t! Every fuel has a different BTUs of energy,
> just like when the hot rodder switches from gasoline to a alcohol he
> must drill the jets out to twice the size to pass four time the fuel.
> That just so..... basic!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > The same injectors and pump settings are used for conventional or
> > biodiesel. No one changes this.
> >
> > Most truckers have less knowledge of diesel fuel control systems than
> > they do of gynecology. "Buttons" are Cummins parlance for a sized part
> > controlling fuel delivery in the PT fuel system, which along with
> > Detroit racks is a thing of interest only to antique collectors and a
> > few off-road operators today.
#113
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Posts: n/a
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires between 2
and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
have an engine that runs extremely rich.
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E3F7B.74652A51@***.net...
> That is total bullsh*t! Every fuel has a different BTUs of energy,
> just like when the hot rodder switches from gasoline to a alcohol he
> must drill the jets out to twice the size to pass four time the fuel.
> That just so..... basic!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > The same injectors and pump settings are used for conventional or
> > biodiesel. No one changes this.
> >
> > Most truckers have less knowledge of diesel fuel control systems than
> > they do of gynecology. "Buttons" are Cummins parlance for a sized part
> > controlling fuel delivery in the PT fuel system, which along with
> > Detroit racks is a thing of interest only to antique collectors and a
> > few off-road operators today.
and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
have an engine that runs extremely rich.
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E3F7B.74652A51@***.net...
> That is total bullsh*t! Every fuel has a different BTUs of energy,
> just like when the hot rodder switches from gasoline to a alcohol he
> must drill the jets out to twice the size to pass four time the fuel.
> That just so..... basic!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > The same injectors and pump settings are used for conventional or
> > biodiesel. No one changes this.
> >
> > Most truckers have less knowledge of diesel fuel control systems than
> > they do of gynecology. "Buttons" are Cummins parlance for a sized part
> > controlling fuel delivery in the PT fuel system, which along with
> > Detroit racks is a thing of interest only to antique collectors and a
> > few off-road operators today.
#114
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
My hot rod days were alcohol and compressed air via a Jimmy 671.
More air more fuel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires between 2
> and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
> fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> have an engine that runs extremely rich.
>
> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
>
> Chris
More air more fuel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires between 2
> and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
> fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> have an engine that runs extremely rich.
>
> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
>
> Chris
#115
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Posts: n/a
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
My hot rod days were alcohol and compressed air via a Jimmy 671.
More air more fuel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires between 2
> and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
> fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> have an engine that runs extremely rich.
>
> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
>
> Chris
More air more fuel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires between 2
> and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
> fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> have an engine that runs extremely rich.
>
> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
>
> Chris
#116
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
My hot rod days were alcohol and compressed air via a Jimmy 671.
More air more fuel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires between 2
> and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
> fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> have an engine that runs extremely rich.
>
> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
>
> Chris
More air more fuel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires between 2
> and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
> fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> have an engine that runs extremely rich.
>
> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
>
> Chris
#117
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
My hot rod days were alcohol and compressed air via a Jimmy 671.
More air more fuel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires between 2
> and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
> fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> have an engine that runs extremely rich.
>
> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
>
> Chris
More air more fuel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
c wrote:
>
> It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires between 2
> and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and other
> fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> have an engine that runs extremely rich.
>
> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
>
> Chris
#118
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
Now you're comparing apples to oranges. A supercharged gasoline engine
converted to alcohol will still require 2 to 2.2 times the fuel as it did
when running on gasoline. If you take a normally aspirated gasoline engine,
convert it to alcohol AND supercharge it, then maybe it will require 4 times
the fuel. You take any engine properly tuned for gasoline and double the
diameter of the fuel metering orifices, and you will have an engine that
runs VERY rich, if at all.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E5B35.2EA6955A@***.net...
> My hot rod days were alcohol and compressed air via a Jimmy 671.
> More air more fuel.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires
between 2
> > and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and
other
> > fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> > have an engine that runs extremely rich.
> >
> > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
> >
> > Chris
converted to alcohol will still require 2 to 2.2 times the fuel as it did
when running on gasoline. If you take a normally aspirated gasoline engine,
convert it to alcohol AND supercharge it, then maybe it will require 4 times
the fuel. You take any engine properly tuned for gasoline and double the
diameter of the fuel metering orifices, and you will have an engine that
runs VERY rich, if at all.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E5B35.2EA6955A@***.net...
> My hot rod days were alcohol and compressed air via a Jimmy 671.
> More air more fuel.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires
between 2
> > and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and
other
> > fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> > have an engine that runs extremely rich.
> >
> > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
> >
> > Chris
#119
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
Now you're comparing apples to oranges. A supercharged gasoline engine
converted to alcohol will still require 2 to 2.2 times the fuel as it did
when running on gasoline. If you take a normally aspirated gasoline engine,
convert it to alcohol AND supercharge it, then maybe it will require 4 times
the fuel. You take any engine properly tuned for gasoline and double the
diameter of the fuel metering orifices, and you will have an engine that
runs VERY rich, if at all.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E5B35.2EA6955A@***.net...
> My hot rod days were alcohol and compressed air via a Jimmy 671.
> More air more fuel.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires
between 2
> > and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and
other
> > fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> > have an engine that runs extremely rich.
> >
> > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
> >
> > Chris
converted to alcohol will still require 2 to 2.2 times the fuel as it did
when running on gasoline. If you take a normally aspirated gasoline engine,
convert it to alcohol AND supercharge it, then maybe it will require 4 times
the fuel. You take any engine properly tuned for gasoline and double the
diameter of the fuel metering orifices, and you will have an engine that
runs VERY rich, if at all.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E5B35.2EA6955A@***.net...
> My hot rod days were alcohol and compressed air via a Jimmy 671.
> More air more fuel.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires
between 2
> > and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and
other
> > fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> > have an engine that runs extremely rich.
> >
> > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
> >
> > Chris
#120
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
Now you're comparing apples to oranges. A supercharged gasoline engine
converted to alcohol will still require 2 to 2.2 times the fuel as it did
when running on gasoline. If you take a normally aspirated gasoline engine,
convert it to alcohol AND supercharge it, then maybe it will require 4 times
the fuel. You take any engine properly tuned for gasoline and double the
diameter of the fuel metering orifices, and you will have an engine that
runs VERY rich, if at all.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E5B35.2EA6955A@***.net...
> My hot rod days were alcohol and compressed air via a Jimmy 671.
> More air more fuel.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires
between 2
> > and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and
other
> > fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> > have an engine that runs extremely rich.
> >
> > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
> >
> > Chris
converted to alcohol will still require 2 to 2.2 times the fuel as it did
when running on gasoline. If you take a normally aspirated gasoline engine,
convert it to alcohol AND supercharge it, then maybe it will require 4 times
the fuel. You take any engine properly tuned for gasoline and double the
diameter of the fuel metering orifices, and you will have an engine that
runs VERY rich, if at all.
Chris
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:431E5B35.2EA6955A@***.net...
> My hot rod days were alcohol and compressed air via a Jimmy 671.
> More air more fuel.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> c wrote:
> >
> > It's basic, but the numbers are not quite right. Alcohol requires
between 2
> > and 2.2 times the fuel as gasoline, and when enlarging the jets and
other
> > fuel orifices, you need to double the area, not the diameter or you will
> > have an engine that runs extremely rich.
> >
> > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...drane.html#ch6
> >
> > Chris