liquoure

Ba Ghr, 06 Frc 2005 20:15:01 -0700, Y.J.Uhturf jebgr:

> Zl ubg ebq qnlf jrer nypbuby naq pbzcerffrq nve ivn n Wvzzl 671.
> Zber nve zber shry.
> Tbq Oyrff Nzrevpn, ßvyy B|||||||B
> znvygb:YJUhturf3eq@nby.pbz uggc://jjj.ovyyuhturf.pbz/
>
> p jebgr:
>>
>> Vg'f onfvp, ohg gur ahzoref ner abg dhvgr evtug. Nypbuby erdhverf orgjrra 2
>> naq 2.2 gvzrf gur shry nf tnfbyvar, naq jura raynetvat gur wrgf naq bgure
>> shry bevsvprf, lbh arrq gb qbhoyr gur nern, abg gur qvnzrgre be lbh jvyy
>> unir na ratvar gung ehaf rkgerzryl evpu.
y
>>
>> uggc://wbhearlgbsberire.bet/ovbshry_yvoenel/rgunaby_qenar.ugzy#pu6
>>
>> Puevf

liquoure

Ba Ghr, 06 Frc 2005 20:15:01 -0700, Y.J.Uhturf jebgr:

> Zl ubg ebq qnlf jrer nypbuby naq pbzcerffrq nve ivn n Wvzzl 671.
> Zber nve zber shry.
> Tbq Oyrff Nzrevpn, ßvyy B|||||||B
> znvygb:YJUhturf3eq@nby.pbz uggc://jjj.ovyyuhturf.pbz/
>
> p jebgr:
>>
>> Vg'f onfvp, ohg gur ahzoref ner abg dhvgr evtug. Nypbuby erdhverf orgjrra 2
>> naq 2.2 gvzrf gur shry nf tnfbyvar, naq jura raynetvat gur wrgf naq bgure
>> shry bevsvprf, lbh arrq gb qbhoyr gur nern, abg gur qvnzrgre be lbh jvyy
>> unir na ratvar gung ehaf rkgerzryl evpu.
y
>>
>> uggc://wbhearlgbsberire.bet/ovbshry_yvoenel/rgunaby_qenar.ugzy#pu6
>>
>> Puevf

liquoure

Ba Ghr, 06 Frc 2005 20:15:01 -0700, Y.J.Uhturf jebgr:

> Zl ubg ebq qnlf jrer nypbuby naq pbzcerffrq nve ivn n Wvzzl 671.
> Zber nve zber shry.
> Tbq Oyrff Nzrevpn, ßvyy B|||||||B
> znvygb:YJUhturf3eq@nby.pbz uggc://jjj.ovyyuhturf.pbz/
>
> p jebgr:
>>
>> Vg'f onfvp, ohg gur ahzoref ner abg dhvgr evtug. Nypbuby erdhverf orgjrra 2
>> naq 2.2 gvzrf gur shry nf tnfbyvar, naq jura raynetvat gur wrgf naq bgure
>> shry bevsvprf, lbh arrq gb qbhoyr gur nern, abg gur qvnzrgre be lbh jvyy
>> unir na ratvar gung ehaf rkgerzryl evpu.
y
>>
>> uggc://wbhearlgbsberire.bet/ovbshry_yvoenel/rgunaby_qenar.ugzy#pu6
>>
>> Puevf

4X4PLAY

My buddy jus put a 6.2 Cummins diesel in his YJ...it's all bolted in...won't
be long before he fires her up...

Jeff



"liquoure" <foot@mouth.org> wrote in message
news:gIwTe.421825$s54.416494@pd7tw2no...
> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:53:55 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
>
>> ynvagf-Gb: qzpn@pbzpnfg.arg
>> K-ZFZnvy-Cevbevgl: Abezny
>> K-ZvzrBYR: Cebqhprq Ol Zvpebfbsg ZvzrBYR I6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Arjfernqre: Zvpebfbsg Bhgybbx Rkcerff 6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Cbfgsvygre: 1.3.32
>> K-Cevbevgl: 3
>> K-ESP2646: Sbezng=Sybjrq; Bevtvany K-Erprvirq-Qngr:
>> Fha, 04 Frc 2005 12:02:32 ZQG (cq7gj1ab) K-Genpr:
>> fi3-6cz9anLD261Xy6JD2NM1wOeiEpuD7581KNROt1joHM6LpSxW0h uU7JAeU8eZL4LigIjMvBfcNZEbcox!DIMzBIcvj0/LlbImR4KMF+b/pJW4nVtgOYHT4895Xkyxj5fFPhTttNGSCu/Fwbj/uiRS3NZ/UnJ2!0kb=
>> Kers: cq7uh0ab erp.nhgbf.znxref.wrrc+jvyylf:74628
>> ZVZR-Irefvba: 1.0
>> Pbagrag-Glcr: grkg/cynva
>>
>> 01 GW j/pi qevirfunsg, 4 vapu yvsg.
>
>
>> That increase is because the diesel engine can use seventeen to one
>> compression ratio. Making the initial costs and maintenance double that
>> of a low compression gasoline engine. A factor of ten in a road tractor
>> engines.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>
>>> Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe. For offroading
>>> its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they aren't affected by
>>> water as badly.
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> ynvagf-Gb: qzpn@pbzpnfg.arg
>> K-ZFZnvy-Cevbevgl: Abezny
>> K-ZvzrBYR: Cebqhprq Ol Zvpebfbsg ZvzrBYR I6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Arjfernqre: Zvpebfbsg Bhgybbx Rkcerff 6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Cbfgsvygre: 1.3.32
>> K-Cevbevgl: 3
>> K-ESP2646: Sbezng=Sybjrq; Bevtvany
>> K-Erprvirq-Qngr: Fha, 04 Frc 2005 12:02:32 ZQG (cq7gj1ab)
>> K-Genpr:
>> fi3-6cz9anLD261Xy6JD2NM1wOeiEpuD7581KNROt1joHM6LpSxW0h uU7JAeU8eZL4LigIjMvBfcNZEbcox!DIMzBIcvj0/LlbImR4KMF+b/pJW4nVtgOYHT4895Xkyxj5fFPhTttNGSCu/Fwbj/uiRS3NZ/UnJ2!0kb=
>> Kers: cq7uh0ab erp.nhgbf.znxref.wrrc+jvyylf:74628
>> ZVZR-Irefvba: 1.0
>> Pbagrag-Glcr: grkg/cynva
>>
>> 01 GW j/pi qevirfunsg, 4 vapu yvsg.
> nnb
> aadtr vcd
>
>
> d
>

4X4PLAY

My buddy jus put a 6.2 Cummins diesel in his YJ...it's all bolted in...won't
be long before he fires her up...

Jeff



"liquoure" <foot@mouth.org> wrote in message
news:gIwTe.421825$s54.416494@pd7tw2no...
> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:53:55 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
>
>> ynvagf-Gb: qzpn@pbzpnfg.arg
>> K-ZFZnvy-Cevbevgl: Abezny
>> K-ZvzrBYR: Cebqhprq Ol Zvpebfbsg ZvzrBYR I6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Arjfernqre: Zvpebfbsg Bhgybbx Rkcerff 6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Cbfgsvygre: 1.3.32
>> K-Cevbevgl: 3
>> K-ESP2646: Sbezng=Sybjrq; Bevtvany K-Erprvirq-Qngr:
>> Fha, 04 Frc 2005 12:02:32 ZQG (cq7gj1ab) K-Genpr:
>> fi3-6cz9anLD261Xy6JD2NM1wOeiEpuD7581KNROt1joHM6LpSxW0h uU7JAeU8eZL4LigIjMvBfcNZEbcox!DIMzBIcvj0/LlbImR4KMF+b/pJW4nVtgOYHT4895Xkyxj5fFPhTttNGSCu/Fwbj/uiRS3NZ/UnJ2!0kb=
>> Kers: cq7uh0ab erp.nhgbf.znxref.wrrc+jvyylf:74628
>> ZVZR-Irefvba: 1.0
>> Pbagrag-Glcr: grkg/cynva
>>
>> 01 GW j/pi qevirfunsg, 4 vapu yvsg.
>
>
>> That increase is because the diesel engine can use seventeen to one
>> compression ratio. Making the initial costs and maintenance double that
>> of a low compression gasoline engine. A factor of ten in a road tractor
>> engines.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>
>>> Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe. For offroading
>>> its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they aren't affected by
>>> water as badly.
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> ynvagf-Gb: qzpn@pbzpnfg.arg
>> K-ZFZnvy-Cevbevgl: Abezny
>> K-ZvzrBYR: Cebqhprq Ol Zvpebfbsg ZvzrBYR I6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Arjfernqre: Zvpebfbsg Bhgybbx Rkcerff 6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Cbfgsvygre: 1.3.32
>> K-Cevbevgl: 3
>> K-ESP2646: Sbezng=Sybjrq; Bevtvany
>> K-Erprvirq-Qngr: Fha, 04 Frc 2005 12:02:32 ZQG (cq7gj1ab)
>> K-Genpr:
>> fi3-6cz9anLD261Xy6JD2NM1wOeiEpuD7581KNROt1joHM6LpSxW0h uU7JAeU8eZL4LigIjMvBfcNZEbcox!DIMzBIcvj0/LlbImR4KMF+b/pJW4nVtgOYHT4895Xkyxj5fFPhTttNGSCu/Fwbj/uiRS3NZ/UnJ2!0kb=
>> Kers: cq7uh0ab erp.nhgbf.znxref.wrrc+jvyylf:74628
>> ZVZR-Irefvba: 1.0
>> Pbagrag-Glcr: grkg/cynva
>>
>> 01 GW j/pi qevirfunsg, 4 vapu yvsg.
> nnb
> aadtr vcd
>
>
> d
>

4X4PLAY

My buddy jus put a 6.2 Cummins diesel in his YJ...it's all bolted in...won't
be long before he fires her up...

Jeff



"liquoure" <foot@mouth.org> wrote in message
news:gIwTe.421825$s54.416494@pd7tw2no...
> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:53:55 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
>
>> ynvagf-Gb: qzpn@pbzpnfg.arg
>> K-ZFZnvy-Cevbevgl: Abezny
>> K-ZvzrBYR: Cebqhprq Ol Zvpebfbsg ZvzrBYR I6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Arjfernqre: Zvpebfbsg Bhgybbx Rkcerff 6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Cbfgsvygre: 1.3.32
>> K-Cevbevgl: 3
>> K-ESP2646: Sbezng=Sybjrq; Bevtvany K-Erprvirq-Qngr:
>> Fha, 04 Frc 2005 12:02:32 ZQG (cq7gj1ab) K-Genpr:
>> fi3-6cz9anLD261Xy6JD2NM1wOeiEpuD7581KNROt1joHM6LpSxW0h uU7JAeU8eZL4LigIjMvBfcNZEbcox!DIMzBIcvj0/LlbImR4KMF+b/pJW4nVtgOYHT4895Xkyxj5fFPhTttNGSCu/Fwbj/uiRS3NZ/UnJ2!0kb=
>> Kers: cq7uh0ab erp.nhgbf.znxref.wrrc+jvyylf:74628
>> ZVZR-Irefvba: 1.0
>> Pbagrag-Glcr: grkg/cynva
>>
>> 01 GW j/pi qevirfunsg, 4 vapu yvsg.
>
>
>> That increase is because the diesel engine can use seventeen to one
>> compression ratio. Making the initial costs and maintenance double that
>> of a low compression gasoline engine. A factor of ten in a road tractor
>> engines.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>
>>> Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe. For offroading
>>> its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they aren't affected by
>>> water as badly.
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> ynvagf-Gb: qzpn@pbzpnfg.arg
>> K-ZFZnvy-Cevbevgl: Abezny
>> K-ZvzrBYR: Cebqhprq Ol Zvpebfbsg ZvzrBYR I6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Arjfernqre: Zvpebfbsg Bhgybbx Rkcerff 6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Cbfgsvygre: 1.3.32
>> K-Cevbevgl: 3
>> K-ESP2646: Sbezng=Sybjrq; Bevtvany
>> K-Erprvirq-Qngr: Fha, 04 Frc 2005 12:02:32 ZQG (cq7gj1ab)
>> K-Genpr:
>> fi3-6cz9anLD261Xy6JD2NM1wOeiEpuD7581KNROt1joHM6LpSxW0h uU7JAeU8eZL4LigIjMvBfcNZEbcox!DIMzBIcvj0/LlbImR4KMF+b/pJW4nVtgOYHT4895Xkyxj5fFPhTttNGSCu/Fwbj/uiRS3NZ/UnJ2!0kb=
>> Kers: cq7uh0ab erp.nhgbf.znxref.wrrc+jvyylf:74628
>> ZVZR-Irefvba: 1.0
>> Pbagrag-Glcr: grkg/cynva
>>
>> 01 GW j/pi qevirfunsg, 4 vapu yvsg.
> nnb
> aadtr vcd
>
>
> d
>

4X4PLAY

My buddy jus put a 6.2 Cummins diesel in his YJ...it's all bolted in...won't
be long before he fires her up...

Jeff



"liquoure" <foot@mouth.org> wrote in message
news:gIwTe.421825$s54.416494@pd7tw2no...
> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:53:55 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
>
>> ynvagf-Gb: qzpn@pbzpnfg.arg
>> K-ZFZnvy-Cevbevgl: Abezny
>> K-ZvzrBYR: Cebqhprq Ol Zvpebfbsg ZvzrBYR I6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Arjfernqre: Zvpebfbsg Bhgybbx Rkcerff 6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Cbfgsvygre: 1.3.32
>> K-Cevbevgl: 3
>> K-ESP2646: Sbezng=Sybjrq; Bevtvany K-Erprvirq-Qngr:
>> Fha, 04 Frc 2005 12:02:32 ZQG (cq7gj1ab) K-Genpr:
>> fi3-6cz9anLD261Xy6JD2NM1wOeiEpuD7581KNROt1joHM6LpSxW0h uU7JAeU8eZL4LigIjMvBfcNZEbcox!DIMzBIcvj0/LlbImR4KMF+b/pJW4nVtgOYHT4895Xkyxj5fFPhTttNGSCu/Fwbj/uiRS3NZ/UnJ2!0kb=
>> Kers: cq7uh0ab erp.nhgbf.znxref.wrrc+jvyylf:74628
>> ZVZR-Irefvba: 1.0
>> Pbagrag-Glcr: grkg/cynva
>>
>> 01 GW j/pi qevirfunsg, 4 vapu yvsg.
>
>
>> That increase is because the diesel engine can use seventeen to one
>> compression ratio. Making the initial costs and maintenance double that
>> of a low compression gasoline engine. A factor of ten in a road tractor
>> engines.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>
>>> Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe. For offroading
>>> its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they aren't affected by
>>> water as badly.
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> ynvagf-Gb: qzpn@pbzpnfg.arg
>> K-ZFZnvy-Cevbevgl: Abezny
>> K-ZvzrBYR: Cebqhprq Ol Zvpebfbsg ZvzrBYR I6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Arjfernqre: Zvpebfbsg Bhgybbx Rkcerff 6.00.2900.2180
>> K-Cbfgsvygre: 1.3.32
>> K-Cevbevgl: 3
>> K-ESP2646: Sbezng=Sybjrq; Bevtvany
>> K-Erprvirq-Qngr: Fha, 04 Frc 2005 12:02:32 ZQG (cq7gj1ab)
>> K-Genpr:
>> fi3-6cz9anLD261Xy6JD2NM1wOeiEpuD7581KNROt1joHM6LpSxW0h uU7JAeU8eZL4LigIjMvBfcNZEbcox!DIMzBIcvj0/LlbImR4KMF+b/pJW4nVtgOYHT4895Xkyxj5fFPhTttNGSCu/Fwbj/uiRS3NZ/UnJ2!0kb=
>> Kers: cq7uh0ab erp.nhgbf.znxref.wrrc+jvyylf:74628
>> ZVZR-Irefvba: 1.0
>> Pbagrag-Glcr: grkg/cynva
>>
>> 01 GW j/pi qevirfunsg, 4 vapu yvsg.
> nnb
> aadtr vcd
>
>
> d
>

Earle Horton

Actually Dave,

If a diesel sucks water it is going to blow out a cylinder wall, while a
gasoline engine will probably just lock up from hydrostatic pressure, or
maybe bend a rod. So the choice is cylinder or block replacement (diesel)
or possible rod replacement (gasoline). If you read one of my earlier
postings I drove a Honda Civic under water three times, and it still came
back for more.

I am not real worried about the price of gasoline in the U.S. It is still
half of what people are paying here. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of
the night, worrying that British Airways won't honor my return ticket,
because all the infrastructure in the U.S. has collapsed, and there is no
place for them to land there. But then I roll over, thinking that that
wouldn't be so bad.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:GnmTe.103636$G8.25776@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe.
> For offroading its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they aren't
> affected by water as badly.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:_OidnZ2dnZ2dVEPRnZ2dnSxBgN6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...
> > Why? Diesel in my area costs $0.30 MORE than gasoline.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1125968983.515107.327190@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like ßill,
> > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course when
> > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> >
>
>

Earle Horton

Actually Dave,

If a diesel sucks water it is going to blow out a cylinder wall, while a
gasoline engine will probably just lock up from hydrostatic pressure, or
maybe bend a rod. So the choice is cylinder or block replacement (diesel)
or possible rod replacement (gasoline). If you read one of my earlier
postings I drove a Honda Civic under water three times, and it still came
back for more.

I am not real worried about the price of gasoline in the U.S. It is still
half of what people are paying here. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of
the night, worrying that British Airways won't honor my return ticket,
because all the infrastructure in the U.S. has collapsed, and there is no
place for them to land there. But then I roll over, thinking that that
wouldn't be so bad.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:GnmTe.103636$G8.25776@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe.
> For offroading its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they aren't
> affected by water as badly.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:_OidnZ2dnZ2dVEPRnZ2dnSxBgN6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...
> > Why? Diesel in my area costs $0.30 MORE than gasoline.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1125968983.515107.327190@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like ßill,
> > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course when
> > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> >
>
>

Earle Horton

Actually Dave,

If a diesel sucks water it is going to blow out a cylinder wall, while a
gasoline engine will probably just lock up from hydrostatic pressure, or
maybe bend a rod. So the choice is cylinder or block replacement (diesel)
or possible rod replacement (gasoline). If you read one of my earlier
postings I drove a Honda Civic under water three times, and it still came
back for more.

I am not real worried about the price of gasoline in the U.S. It is still
half of what people are paying here. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of
the night, worrying that British Airways won't honor my return ticket,
because all the infrastructure in the U.S. has collapsed, and there is no
place for them to land there. But then I roll over, thinking that that
wouldn't be so bad.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:GnmTe.103636$G8.25776@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe.
> For offroading its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they aren't
> affected by water as badly.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:_OidnZ2dnZ2dVEPRnZ2dnSxBgN6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...
> > Why? Diesel in my area costs $0.30 MORE than gasoline.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1125968983.515107.327190@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like ßill,
> > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course when
> > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> >
>
>