Ya ready for diesel yet?
#231
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
That is a good sign. I don't know what we would do in Silverton if the
price of propane did what gasoline has done. All of the poor people would
have to leave, and the rich people, who have stayed out of politics, would
have to take a crack at running the town ourselves. I doubt we would do
better than the fools we have now.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:XAYTe.104823$G8.56094@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I don't drive the Waggy much, and anyhow it runs on propane which is 1/2
the
> price of petrol
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1126187041.01ca590548daf08af737a9cd399af447@t eranews...
> > Vitoria-Gasteiz, País Vasco, España. Empiezo a entender la cultura
> > anglosajón, por ojos ajenos. You probably have places like this
> > www.hoteldato.com in England too.
> >
> > This place is fantastic. La ciudad es preciosa, y la gente amable. Lo
> peor
> > es que el dólar no tiene valor. Almuerzo en la plaza, con pan y queso,
> como
> > vagabundo. Next week I move into a studio, and will be able to prepare
my
> > own meals. Where can I find a simple jar of peanut butter?
> >
> > I bought some petrol here last week, and for the life of me I don't
> > understand how you can drive a Grand Wagoneer at these prices. The good
> > thing about prices in the U.S. is that no one in the family wants to
drive
> > my Suburban while I am gone, and they only drive the Jeep when someone
> else
> > has the Honda.
> >
> > Qué será, será, si Dios lo dispone.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:xjHTe.104347$G8.79777@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > Sure, if it sucks water. I meant rather that diesels don't have spark
> > plugs
> > > to get wet (although the advantage is rather dimished by the fact they
> > have
> > > now acquired a lot more electronics). I didn't realise you were
outside
> > the
> > > US now, Earle - where are you ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1126104163.67cc8bbee2471f31fb555a116f15d16c@t eranews...
> > > > Actually Dave,
> > > >
> > > > If a diesel sucks water it is going to blow out a cylinder wall,
while
> a
> > > > gasoline engine will probably just lock up from hydrostatic
pressure,
> or
> > > > maybe bend a rod. So the choice is cylinder or block replacement
> > (diesel)
> > > > or possible rod replacement (gasoline). If you read one of my
earlier
> > > > postings I drove a Honda Civic under water three times, and it still
> > came
> > > > back for more.
> > > >
> > > > I am not real worried about the price of gasoline in the U.S. It is
> > still
> > > > half of what people are paying here. Sometimes I wake up in the
> middle
> > of
> > > > the night, worrying that British Airways won't honor my return
ticket,
> > > > because all the infrastructure in the U.S. has collapsed, and there
is
> > no
> > > > place for them to land there. But then I roll over, thinking that
> that
> > > > wouldn't be so bad.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:GnmTe.103636$G8.25776@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > > > Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe.
> > > > > For offroading its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they
> > > aren't
> > > > > affected by water as badly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:_OidnZ2dnZ2dVEPRnZ2dnSxBgN6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...
> > > > > > Why? Diesel in my area costs $0.30 MORE than gasoline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:1125968983.515107.327190@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > > > > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like
> > ßill,
> > > > > > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course
> when
> > > > > > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > > > > > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
price of propane did what gasoline has done. All of the poor people would
have to leave, and the rich people, who have stayed out of politics, would
have to take a crack at running the town ourselves. I doubt we would do
better than the fools we have now.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:XAYTe.104823$G8.56094@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I don't drive the Waggy much, and anyhow it runs on propane which is 1/2
the
> price of petrol
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1126187041.01ca590548daf08af737a9cd399af447@t eranews...
> > Vitoria-Gasteiz, País Vasco, España. Empiezo a entender la cultura
> > anglosajón, por ojos ajenos. You probably have places like this
> > www.hoteldato.com in England too.
> >
> > This place is fantastic. La ciudad es preciosa, y la gente amable. Lo
> peor
> > es que el dólar no tiene valor. Almuerzo en la plaza, con pan y queso,
> como
> > vagabundo. Next week I move into a studio, and will be able to prepare
my
> > own meals. Where can I find a simple jar of peanut butter?
> >
> > I bought some petrol here last week, and for the life of me I don't
> > understand how you can drive a Grand Wagoneer at these prices. The good
> > thing about prices in the U.S. is that no one in the family wants to
drive
> > my Suburban while I am gone, and they only drive the Jeep when someone
> else
> > has the Honda.
> >
> > Qué será, será, si Dios lo dispone.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:xjHTe.104347$G8.79777@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > Sure, if it sucks water. I meant rather that diesels don't have spark
> > plugs
> > > to get wet (although the advantage is rather dimished by the fact they
> > have
> > > now acquired a lot more electronics). I didn't realise you were
outside
> > the
> > > US now, Earle - where are you ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1126104163.67cc8bbee2471f31fb555a116f15d16c@t eranews...
> > > > Actually Dave,
> > > >
> > > > If a diesel sucks water it is going to blow out a cylinder wall,
while
> a
> > > > gasoline engine will probably just lock up from hydrostatic
pressure,
> or
> > > > maybe bend a rod. So the choice is cylinder or block replacement
> > (diesel)
> > > > or possible rod replacement (gasoline). If you read one of my
earlier
> > > > postings I drove a Honda Civic under water three times, and it still
> > came
> > > > back for more.
> > > >
> > > > I am not real worried about the price of gasoline in the U.S. It is
> > still
> > > > half of what people are paying here. Sometimes I wake up in the
> middle
> > of
> > > > the night, worrying that British Airways won't honor my return
ticket,
> > > > because all the infrastructure in the U.S. has collapsed, and there
is
> > no
> > > > place for them to land there. But then I roll over, thinking that
> that
> > > > wouldn't be so bad.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:GnmTe.103636$G8.25776@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > > > Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe.
> > > > > For offroading its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they
> > > aren't
> > > > > affected by water as badly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:_OidnZ2dnZ2dVEPRnZ2dnSxBgN6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...
> > > > > > Why? Diesel in my area costs $0.30 MORE than gasoline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:1125968983.515107.327190@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > > > > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like
> > ßill,
> > > > > > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course
> when
> > > > > > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > > > > > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
#232
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
That is a good sign. I don't know what we would do in Silverton if the
price of propane did what gasoline has done. All of the poor people would
have to leave, and the rich people, who have stayed out of politics, would
have to take a crack at running the town ourselves. I doubt we would do
better than the fools we have now.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:XAYTe.104823$G8.56094@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I don't drive the Waggy much, and anyhow it runs on propane which is 1/2
the
> price of petrol
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1126187041.01ca590548daf08af737a9cd399af447@t eranews...
> > Vitoria-Gasteiz, País Vasco, España. Empiezo a entender la cultura
> > anglosajón, por ojos ajenos. You probably have places like this
> > www.hoteldato.com in England too.
> >
> > This place is fantastic. La ciudad es preciosa, y la gente amable. Lo
> peor
> > es que el dólar no tiene valor. Almuerzo en la plaza, con pan y queso,
> como
> > vagabundo. Next week I move into a studio, and will be able to prepare
my
> > own meals. Where can I find a simple jar of peanut butter?
> >
> > I bought some petrol here last week, and for the life of me I don't
> > understand how you can drive a Grand Wagoneer at these prices. The good
> > thing about prices in the U.S. is that no one in the family wants to
drive
> > my Suburban while I am gone, and they only drive the Jeep when someone
> else
> > has the Honda.
> >
> > Qué será, será, si Dios lo dispone.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:xjHTe.104347$G8.79777@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > Sure, if it sucks water. I meant rather that diesels don't have spark
> > plugs
> > > to get wet (although the advantage is rather dimished by the fact they
> > have
> > > now acquired a lot more electronics). I didn't realise you were
outside
> > the
> > > US now, Earle - where are you ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1126104163.67cc8bbee2471f31fb555a116f15d16c@t eranews...
> > > > Actually Dave,
> > > >
> > > > If a diesel sucks water it is going to blow out a cylinder wall,
while
> a
> > > > gasoline engine will probably just lock up from hydrostatic
pressure,
> or
> > > > maybe bend a rod. So the choice is cylinder or block replacement
> > (diesel)
> > > > or possible rod replacement (gasoline). If you read one of my
earlier
> > > > postings I drove a Honda Civic under water three times, and it still
> > came
> > > > back for more.
> > > >
> > > > I am not real worried about the price of gasoline in the U.S. It is
> > still
> > > > half of what people are paying here. Sometimes I wake up in the
> middle
> > of
> > > > the night, worrying that British Airways won't honor my return
ticket,
> > > > because all the infrastructure in the U.S. has collapsed, and there
is
> > no
> > > > place for them to land there. But then I roll over, thinking that
> that
> > > > wouldn't be so bad.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:GnmTe.103636$G8.25776@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > > > Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe.
> > > > > For offroading its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they
> > > aren't
> > > > > affected by water as badly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:_OidnZ2dnZ2dVEPRnZ2dnSxBgN6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...
> > > > > > Why? Diesel in my area costs $0.30 MORE than gasoline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:1125968983.515107.327190@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > > > > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like
> > ßill,
> > > > > > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course
> when
> > > > > > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > > > > > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
price of propane did what gasoline has done. All of the poor people would
have to leave, and the rich people, who have stayed out of politics, would
have to take a crack at running the town ourselves. I doubt we would do
better than the fools we have now.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:XAYTe.104823$G8.56094@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I don't drive the Waggy much, and anyhow it runs on propane which is 1/2
the
> price of petrol
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1126187041.01ca590548daf08af737a9cd399af447@t eranews...
> > Vitoria-Gasteiz, País Vasco, España. Empiezo a entender la cultura
> > anglosajón, por ojos ajenos. You probably have places like this
> > www.hoteldato.com in England too.
> >
> > This place is fantastic. La ciudad es preciosa, y la gente amable. Lo
> peor
> > es que el dólar no tiene valor. Almuerzo en la plaza, con pan y queso,
> como
> > vagabundo. Next week I move into a studio, and will be able to prepare
my
> > own meals. Where can I find a simple jar of peanut butter?
> >
> > I bought some petrol here last week, and for the life of me I don't
> > understand how you can drive a Grand Wagoneer at these prices. The good
> > thing about prices in the U.S. is that no one in the family wants to
drive
> > my Suburban while I am gone, and they only drive the Jeep when someone
> else
> > has the Honda.
> >
> > Qué será, será, si Dios lo dispone.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:xjHTe.104347$G8.79777@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > Sure, if it sucks water. I meant rather that diesels don't have spark
> > plugs
> > > to get wet (although the advantage is rather dimished by the fact they
> > have
> > > now acquired a lot more electronics). I didn't realise you were
outside
> > the
> > > US now, Earle - where are you ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1126104163.67cc8bbee2471f31fb555a116f15d16c@t eranews...
> > > > Actually Dave,
> > > >
> > > > If a diesel sucks water it is going to blow out a cylinder wall,
while
> a
> > > > gasoline engine will probably just lock up from hydrostatic
pressure,
> or
> > > > maybe bend a rod. So the choice is cylinder or block replacement
> > (diesel)
> > > > or possible rod replacement (gasoline). If you read one of my
earlier
> > > > postings I drove a Honda Civic under water three times, and it still
> > came
> > > > back for more.
> > > >
> > > > I am not real worried about the price of gasoline in the U.S. It is
> > still
> > > > half of what people are paying here. Sometimes I wake up in the
> middle
> > of
> > > > the night, worrying that British Airways won't honor my return
ticket,
> > > > because all the infrastructure in the U.S. has collapsed, and there
is
> > no
> > > > place for them to land there. But then I roll over, thinking that
> that
> > > > wouldn't be so bad.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:GnmTe.103636$G8.25776@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > > > Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe.
> > > > > For offroading its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they
> > > aren't
> > > > > affected by water as badly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:_OidnZ2dnZ2dVEPRnZ2dnSxBgN6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...
> > > > > > Why? Diesel in my area costs $0.30 MORE than gasoline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:1125968983.515107.327190@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > > > > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like
> > ßill,
> > > > > > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course
> when
> > > > > > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > > > > > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
#233
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
That is a good sign. I don't know what we would do in Silverton if the
price of propane did what gasoline has done. All of the poor people would
have to leave, and the rich people, who have stayed out of politics, would
have to take a crack at running the town ourselves. I doubt we would do
better than the fools we have now.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:XAYTe.104823$G8.56094@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I don't drive the Waggy much, and anyhow it runs on propane which is 1/2
the
> price of petrol
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1126187041.01ca590548daf08af737a9cd399af447@t eranews...
> > Vitoria-Gasteiz, País Vasco, España. Empiezo a entender la cultura
> > anglosajón, por ojos ajenos. You probably have places like this
> > www.hoteldato.com in England too.
> >
> > This place is fantastic. La ciudad es preciosa, y la gente amable. Lo
> peor
> > es que el dólar no tiene valor. Almuerzo en la plaza, con pan y queso,
> como
> > vagabundo. Next week I move into a studio, and will be able to prepare
my
> > own meals. Where can I find a simple jar of peanut butter?
> >
> > I bought some petrol here last week, and for the life of me I don't
> > understand how you can drive a Grand Wagoneer at these prices. The good
> > thing about prices in the U.S. is that no one in the family wants to
drive
> > my Suburban while I am gone, and they only drive the Jeep when someone
> else
> > has the Honda.
> >
> > Qué será, será, si Dios lo dispone.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:xjHTe.104347$G8.79777@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > Sure, if it sucks water. I meant rather that diesels don't have spark
> > plugs
> > > to get wet (although the advantage is rather dimished by the fact they
> > have
> > > now acquired a lot more electronics). I didn't realise you were
outside
> > the
> > > US now, Earle - where are you ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1126104163.67cc8bbee2471f31fb555a116f15d16c@t eranews...
> > > > Actually Dave,
> > > >
> > > > If a diesel sucks water it is going to blow out a cylinder wall,
while
> a
> > > > gasoline engine will probably just lock up from hydrostatic
pressure,
> or
> > > > maybe bend a rod. So the choice is cylinder or block replacement
> > (diesel)
> > > > or possible rod replacement (gasoline). If you read one of my
earlier
> > > > postings I drove a Honda Civic under water three times, and it still
> > came
> > > > back for more.
> > > >
> > > > I am not real worried about the price of gasoline in the U.S. It is
> > still
> > > > half of what people are paying here. Sometimes I wake up in the
> middle
> > of
> > > > the night, worrying that British Airways won't honor my return
ticket,
> > > > because all the infrastructure in the U.S. has collapsed, and there
is
> > no
> > > > place for them to land there. But then I roll over, thinking that
> that
> > > > wouldn't be so bad.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:GnmTe.103636$G8.25776@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > > > Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe.
> > > > > For offroading its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they
> > > aren't
> > > > > affected by water as badly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:_OidnZ2dnZ2dVEPRnZ2dnSxBgN6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...
> > > > > > Why? Diesel in my area costs $0.30 MORE than gasoline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:1125968983.515107.327190@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > > > > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like
> > ßill,
> > > > > > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course
> when
> > > > > > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > > > > > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
price of propane did what gasoline has done. All of the poor people would
have to leave, and the rich people, who have stayed out of politics, would
have to take a crack at running the town ourselves. I doubt we would do
better than the fools we have now.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:XAYTe.104823$G8.56094@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I don't drive the Waggy much, and anyhow it runs on propane which is 1/2
the
> price of petrol
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1126187041.01ca590548daf08af737a9cd399af447@t eranews...
> > Vitoria-Gasteiz, País Vasco, España. Empiezo a entender la cultura
> > anglosajón, por ojos ajenos. You probably have places like this
> > www.hoteldato.com in England too.
> >
> > This place is fantastic. La ciudad es preciosa, y la gente amable. Lo
> peor
> > es que el dólar no tiene valor. Almuerzo en la plaza, con pan y queso,
> como
> > vagabundo. Next week I move into a studio, and will be able to prepare
my
> > own meals. Where can I find a simple jar of peanut butter?
> >
> > I bought some petrol here last week, and for the life of me I don't
> > understand how you can drive a Grand Wagoneer at these prices. The good
> > thing about prices in the U.S. is that no one in the family wants to
drive
> > my Suburban while I am gone, and they only drive the Jeep when someone
> else
> > has the Honda.
> >
> > Qué será, será, si Dios lo dispone.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:xjHTe.104347$G8.79777@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > Sure, if it sucks water. I meant rather that diesels don't have spark
> > plugs
> > > to get wet (although the advantage is rather dimished by the fact they
> > have
> > > now acquired a lot more electronics). I didn't realise you were
outside
> > the
> > > US now, Earle - where are you ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1126104163.67cc8bbee2471f31fb555a116f15d16c@t eranews...
> > > > Actually Dave,
> > > >
> > > > If a diesel sucks water it is going to blow out a cylinder wall,
while
> a
> > > > gasoline engine will probably just lock up from hydrostatic
pressure,
> or
> > > > maybe bend a rod. So the choice is cylinder or block replacement
> > (diesel)
> > > > or possible rod replacement (gasoline). If you read one of my
earlier
> > > > postings I drove a Honda Civic under water three times, and it still
> > came
> > > > back for more.
> > > >
> > > > I am not real worried about the price of gasoline in the U.S. It is
> > still
> > > > half of what people are paying here. Sometimes I wake up in the
> middle
> > of
> > > > the night, worrying that British Airways won't honor my return
ticket,
> > > > because all the infrastructure in the U.S. has collapsed, and there
is
> > no
> > > > place for them to land there. But then I roll over, thinking that
> that
> > > > wouldn't be so bad.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:GnmTe.103636$G8.25776@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > > > Get more mpg though. That's why it's popular in Europe.
> > > > > For offroading its ideal as the torque advantage is large and they
> > > aren't
> > > > > affected by water as badly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:_OidnZ2dnZ2dVEPRnZ2dnSxBgN6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...
> > > > > > Why? Diesel in my area costs $0.30 MORE than gasoline.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:1125968983.515107.327190@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > > > > > It's a matter of time now! Aside from a few stubborn goofs like
> > ßill,
> > > > > > y'all are going to start thinking diesel pretty soon. Of course
> when
> > > > > > the craze starts, the price of suitable engines is going to
> > > > > > skyrocket...too bad I have a few in my garage, isn't it?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
"SoK66" <Nospam@SoK.net> wrote in message
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> While diesels may generally get better mileage, it's not that simple. It
> depends upon what vehicle you're talking about.
> I have an '04 Ford Super Duty 6.0 PowerStroke, gets about 16.5 city, 21
> highway. Towing the Jeep & trailer, a task for which it is absolutely
> fantastic, it gets 12-13 mpg.
> (A comparable V10 Triton gets around 10 city, 14 highway, towing will
likely
> get around 6-8.) Overall, not bad, but tthe PowerStroke is certainly no
fuel
> miser.
>
My V10 gets about 12.5 around town, usually about 16 highway. My last
towing trip was pulling a 1200# trailer with Cherokee on board. What's a
Cherokee, about 4500#? No clue. Anyway, with that load I averaged about
12.5 on the highway. Best I've ever done with it was 18.5 (unloaded of
course ) highway through Indiana/Illinois.
Cost of the diesel option was a big factor for me when I bought the super
duty, for many of the reasons you mention (break even point). If I were
going to be towing a lot of weight a LOT of the time, it would have been a
no-brainer. Since it was meant to be an occasional hauler(5 years old with
about 34K on it) , the gas guzzler was the way to go.
#235
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
"SoK66" <Nospam@SoK.net> wrote in message
news:dfs4b301ik4@enews2.newsguy.com...
> While diesels may generally get better mileage, it's not that simple. It
> depends upon what vehicle you're talking about.
> I have an '04 Ford Super Duty 6.0 PowerStroke, gets about 16.5 city, 21
> highway. Towing the Jeep & trailer, a task for which it is absolutely
> fantastic, it gets 12-13 mpg.
> (A comparable V10 Triton gets around 10 city, 14 highway, towing will
likely
> get around 6-8.) Overall, not bad, but tthe PowerStroke is certainly no
fuel
> miser.
>
My V10 gets about 12.5 around town, usually about 16 highway. My last
towing trip was pulling a 1200# trailer with Cherokee on board. What's a
Cherokee, about 4500#? No clue. Anyway, with that load I averaged about
12.5 on the highway. Best I've ever done with it was 18.5 (unloaded of
course ) highway through Indiana/Illinois.
Cost of the diesel option was a big factor for me when I bought the super
duty, for many of the reasons you mention (break even point). If I were
going to be towing a lot of weight a LOT of the time, it would have been a
no-brainer. Since it was meant to be an occasional hauler(5 years old with
about 34K on it) , the gas guzzler was the way to go.
#236
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
"SoK66" <Nospam@SoK.net> wrote in message
news:dfs4b301ik4@enews2.newsguy.com...
> While diesels may generally get better mileage, it's not that simple. It
> depends upon what vehicle you're talking about.
> I have an '04 Ford Super Duty 6.0 PowerStroke, gets about 16.5 city, 21
> highway. Towing the Jeep & trailer, a task for which it is absolutely
> fantastic, it gets 12-13 mpg.
> (A comparable V10 Triton gets around 10 city, 14 highway, towing will
likely
> get around 6-8.) Overall, not bad, but tthe PowerStroke is certainly no
fuel
> miser.
>
My V10 gets about 12.5 around town, usually about 16 highway. My last
towing trip was pulling a 1200# trailer with Cherokee on board. What's a
Cherokee, about 4500#? No clue. Anyway, with that load I averaged about
12.5 on the highway. Best I've ever done with it was 18.5 (unloaded of
course ) highway through Indiana/Illinois.
Cost of the diesel option was a big factor for me when I bought the super
duty, for many of the reasons you mention (break even point). If I were
going to be towing a lot of weight a LOT of the time, it would have been a
no-brainer. Since it was meant to be an occasional hauler(5 years old with
about 34K on it) , the gas guzzler was the way to go.
#237
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
"SoK66" <Nospam@SoK.net> wrote in message
news:dfs4b301ik4@enews2.newsguy.com...
> While diesels may generally get better mileage, it's not that simple. It
> depends upon what vehicle you're talking about.
> I have an '04 Ford Super Duty 6.0 PowerStroke, gets about 16.5 city, 21
> highway. Towing the Jeep & trailer, a task for which it is absolutely
> fantastic, it gets 12-13 mpg.
> (A comparable V10 Triton gets around 10 city, 14 highway, towing will
likely
> get around 6-8.) Overall, not bad, but tthe PowerStroke is certainly no
fuel
> miser.
>
My V10 gets about 12.5 around town, usually about 16 highway. My last
towing trip was pulling a 1200# trailer with Cherokee on board. What's a
Cherokee, about 4500#? No clue. Anyway, with that load I averaged about
12.5 on the highway. Best I've ever done with it was 18.5 (unloaded of
course ) highway through Indiana/Illinois.
Cost of the diesel option was a big factor for me when I bought the super
duty, for many of the reasons you mention (break even point). If I were
going to be towing a lot of weight a LOT of the time, it would have been a
no-brainer. Since it was meant to be an occasional hauler(5 years old with
about 34K on it) , the gas guzzler was the way to go.