What tire to buy
10-03-2003, 09:21 AM
#51
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Re: What tire to buy
I have only ever seen one set of Thornbirds in 'action'.
The only action was everyone having to bail out of this poor guys Jeep
to push him across flat wet muddy grass while some kids in a Chevette or
Acadian literally drove in circles around him laughing to ****
themselves.
There were over a 100 other folks at the local mud pit laughing their
butts off too. I sure wasn't impressed, neither was the Jeep owner
trying to hide under his dash....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
>
> Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
> > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> > mud season for $85 each.
> >
> > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
> >
> > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > year in and year out.
> >
> > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Perry
> >
> > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Welch wrote:
> > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > better compromise.
> > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > > John Welch
> > >
> > >>/<
> > >
The only action was everyone having to bail out of this poor guys Jeep
to push him across flat wet muddy grass while some kids in a Chevette or
Acadian literally drove in circles around him laughing to ****
themselves.
There were over a 100 other folks at the local mud pit laughing their
butts off too. I sure wasn't impressed, neither was the Jeep owner
trying to hide under his dash....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
>
> Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
> > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> > mud season for $85 each.
> >
> > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
> >
> > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > year in and year out.
> >
> > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Perry
> >
> > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Welch wrote:
> > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > better compromise.
> > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > > John Welch
> > >
> > >>/<
> > >
10-03-2003, 09:21 AM
#52
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Re: What tire to buy
I have only ever seen one set of Thornbirds in 'action'.
The only action was everyone having to bail out of this poor guys Jeep
to push him across flat wet muddy grass while some kids in a Chevette or
Acadian literally drove in circles around him laughing to ****
themselves.
There were over a 100 other folks at the local mud pit laughing their
butts off too. I sure wasn't impressed, neither was the Jeep owner
trying to hide under his dash....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
>
> Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
> > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> > mud season for $85 each.
> >
> > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
> >
> > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > year in and year out.
> >
> > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Perry
> >
> > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Welch wrote:
> > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > better compromise.
> > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > > John Welch
> > >
> > >>/<
> > >
The only action was everyone having to bail out of this poor guys Jeep
to push him across flat wet muddy grass while some kids in a Chevette or
Acadian literally drove in circles around him laughing to ****
themselves.
There were over a 100 other folks at the local mud pit laughing their
butts off too. I sure wasn't impressed, neither was the Jeep owner
trying to hide under his dash....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
>
> Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
> > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> > mud season for $85 each.
> >
> > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
> >
> > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > year in and year out.
> >
> > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Perry
> >
> > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Welch wrote:
> > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > better compromise.
> > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > > John Welch
> > >
> > >>/<
> > >
10-03-2003, 12:00 PM
#53
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Thornbird TSLs
No offense taken (not even from the gentleman who called my tires
"junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
enough to grab and move me on the trail.
> Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
"junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
enough to grab and move me on the trail.
> Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
10-03-2003, 12:00 PM
#54
Guest
Posts: n/a
Thornbird TSLs
No offense taken (not even from the gentleman who called my tires
"junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
enough to grab and move me on the trail.
> Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
"junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
enough to grab and move me on the trail.
> Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
10-03-2003, 12:00 PM
#55
Guest
Posts: n/a
Thornbird TSLs
No offense taken (not even from the gentleman who called my tires
"junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
enough to grab and move me on the trail.
> Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
"junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
enough to grab and move me on the trail.
> Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
10-03-2003, 12:49 PM
#56
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Posts: n/a
Re: Thornbird TSLs
The only ones I have seen off road just plain could not drive through
flat muddy grass. They turned to slicks.
The poor Jeep driver had to get his 3 passengers out to push with an
audience of over a hundred while a bunch of kids in a put put pontiac
Acadian or Chevette literally drove in circles around him laughing to
**** themselves....
One gent from here bought a set and we had a beer riding on a run
through the mud pits against my 'pizza cutters' (BFG 33x9.5 muds), but
he never did show up.... He must have tried it himself first, never saw
him again on the trails after he bought those tires. ;-)
I see lots of them for sale too with 'little to no wear' on them. LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> No offense taken (not even from the gentleman who called my tires
> "junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
> with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
> loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
> a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
>
> The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
> driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
> so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
> would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
> acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
> enough to grab and move me on the trail.
>
> > Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> > perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
flat muddy grass. They turned to slicks.
The poor Jeep driver had to get his 3 passengers out to push with an
audience of over a hundred while a bunch of kids in a put put pontiac
Acadian or Chevette literally drove in circles around him laughing to
**** themselves....
One gent from here bought a set and we had a beer riding on a run
through the mud pits against my 'pizza cutters' (BFG 33x9.5 muds), but
he never did show up.... He must have tried it himself first, never saw
him again on the trails after he bought those tires. ;-)
I see lots of them for sale too with 'little to no wear' on them. LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> No offense taken (not even from the gentleman who called my tires
> "junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
> with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
> loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
> a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
>
> The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
> driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
> so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
> would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
> acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
> enough to grab and move me on the trail.
>
> > Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> > perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
10-03-2003, 12:49 PM
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Thornbird TSLs
The only ones I have seen off road just plain could not drive through
flat muddy grass. They turned to slicks.
The poor Jeep driver had to get his 3 passengers out to push with an
audience of over a hundred while a bunch of kids in a put put pontiac
Acadian or Chevette literally drove in circles around him laughing to
**** themselves....
One gent from here bought a set and we had a beer riding on a run
through the mud pits against my 'pizza cutters' (BFG 33x9.5 muds), but
he never did show up.... He must have tried it himself first, never saw
him again on the trails after he bought those tires. ;-)
I see lots of them for sale too with 'little to no wear' on them. LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> No offense taken (not even from the gentleman who called my tires
> "junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
> with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
> loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
> a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
>
> The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
> driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
> so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
> would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
> acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
> enough to grab and move me on the trail.
>
> > Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> > perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
flat muddy grass. They turned to slicks.
The poor Jeep driver had to get his 3 passengers out to push with an
audience of over a hundred while a bunch of kids in a put put pontiac
Acadian or Chevette literally drove in circles around him laughing to
**** themselves....
One gent from here bought a set and we had a beer riding on a run
through the mud pits against my 'pizza cutters' (BFG 33x9.5 muds), but
he never did show up.... He must have tried it himself first, never saw
him again on the trails after he bought those tires. ;-)
I see lots of them for sale too with 'little to no wear' on them. LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> No offense taken (not even from the gentleman who called my tires
> "junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
> with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
> loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
> a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
>
> The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
> driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
> so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
> would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
> acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
> enough to grab and move me on the trail.
>
> > Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> > perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
10-03-2003, 12:49 PM
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Thornbird TSLs
The only ones I have seen off road just plain could not drive through
flat muddy grass. They turned to slicks.
The poor Jeep driver had to get his 3 passengers out to push with an
audience of over a hundred while a bunch of kids in a put put pontiac
Acadian or Chevette literally drove in circles around him laughing to
**** themselves....
One gent from here bought a set and we had a beer riding on a run
through the mud pits against my 'pizza cutters' (BFG 33x9.5 muds), but
he never did show up.... He must have tried it himself first, never saw
him again on the trails after he bought those tires. ;-)
I see lots of them for sale too with 'little to no wear' on them. LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> No offense taken (not even from the gentleman who called my tires
> "junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
> with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
> loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
> a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
>
> The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
> driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
> so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
> would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
> acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
> enough to grab and move me on the trail.
>
> > Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> > perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
flat muddy grass. They turned to slicks.
The poor Jeep driver had to get his 3 passengers out to push with an
audience of over a hundred while a bunch of kids in a put put pontiac
Acadian or Chevette literally drove in circles around him laughing to
**** themselves....
One gent from here bought a set and we had a beer riding on a run
through the mud pits against my 'pizza cutters' (BFG 33x9.5 muds), but
he never did show up.... He must have tried it himself first, never saw
him again on the trails after he bought those tires. ;-)
I see lots of them for sale too with 'little to no wear' on them. LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> No offense taken (not even from the gentleman who called my tires
> "junk" :-) but could you be a little more specific... what is wrong
> with Thornbird TSLs exactly? The only problem I have with them is how
> loud they are on the freeway, which may not be brand-specific but just
> a problem with 35 inch tires in general!
>
> The jeep they are on sees duty as an off-road toy but is also a daily
> driver and regularly driven 20 or 30 miles at a time on the highway,
> so something such as Boggers which might be better suited off-road
> would just not be practical for my needs. The Thornbirds seem to do
> acceptably cornering and braking on paved roads, yet they are knobby
> enough to grab and move me on the trail.
>
> > Egads... not to start a flame war or anything, but Thornbirds are
> > perhaps the worst tire ever developed.
10-03-2003, 12:59 PM
#59
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Re: What tire to buy
Hi Mike
LOL. You've got to be really careful while doing that. Reminds me,
I had a whole bunch of people after me out at a local Tierra Del Sol
meat, thought some guy in a Ford truck was going to kill me. I was one
of the few that was locked front and rear. Oh, and I wasn't the one
laughing, it was the spectators.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I have only ever seen one set of Thornbirds in 'action'.
>
> The only action was everyone having to bail out of this poor guys Jeep
> to push him across flat wet muddy grass while some kids in a Chevette or
> Acadian literally drove in circles around him laughing to ****
> themselves.
>
> There were over a 100 other folks at the local mud pit laughing their
> butts off too. I sure wasn't impressed, neither was the Jeep owner
> trying to hide under his dash....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
LOL. You've got to be really careful while doing that. Reminds me,
I had a whole bunch of people after me out at a local Tierra Del Sol
meat, thought some guy in a Ford truck was going to kill me. I was one
of the few that was locked front and rear. Oh, and I wasn't the one
laughing, it was the spectators.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I have only ever seen one set of Thornbirds in 'action'.
>
> The only action was everyone having to bail out of this poor guys Jeep
> to push him across flat wet muddy grass while some kids in a Chevette or
> Acadian literally drove in circles around him laughing to ****
> themselves.
>
> There were over a 100 other folks at the local mud pit laughing their
> butts off too. I sure wasn't impressed, neither was the Jeep owner
> trying to hide under his dash....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-03-2003, 12:59 PM
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: What tire to buy
Hi Mike
LOL. You've got to be really careful while doing that. Reminds me,
I had a whole bunch of people after me out at a local Tierra Del Sol
meat, thought some guy in a Ford truck was going to kill me. I was one
of the few that was locked front and rear. Oh, and I wasn't the one
laughing, it was the spectators.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I have only ever seen one set of Thornbirds in 'action'.
>
> The only action was everyone having to bail out of this poor guys Jeep
> to push him across flat wet muddy grass while some kids in a Chevette or
> Acadian literally drove in circles around him laughing to ****
> themselves.
>
> There were over a 100 other folks at the local mud pit laughing their
> butts off too. I sure wasn't impressed, neither was the Jeep owner
> trying to hide under his dash....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
LOL. You've got to be really careful while doing that. Reminds me,
I had a whole bunch of people after me out at a local Tierra Del Sol
meat, thought some guy in a Ford truck was going to kill me. I was one
of the few that was locked front and rear. Oh, and I wasn't the one
laughing, it was the spectators.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I have only ever seen one set of Thornbirds in 'action'.
>
> The only action was everyone having to bail out of this poor guys Jeep
> to push him across flat wet muddy grass while some kids in a Chevette or
> Acadian literally drove in circles around him laughing to ****
> themselves.
>
> There were over a 100 other folks at the local mud pit laughing their
> butts off too. I sure wasn't impressed, neither was the Jeep owner
> trying to hide under his dash....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
