What tire to buy
 

99 Wrangler.
I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
better compromise.
I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.

Thank you very much
John Welch
>/<

Re: What tire to buy
 

"John Welch" <jcwelch@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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> Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles.

wow, lucky you! i really enjoy driving my wrangler and still find myself
looking for excuses to go places just so i can drive it more.

> On weekends I will be in
> muddy pastures

i think this would rule out the a/t. opinions seem to vary, but i think the
bfg a/t becomes slick _way_ to fast in the mud. im not a big fan anymore of
the bfg m/t, but only because bfg is a french company (not a "valid" reason
by which to base a recommendation, i know). as far as the bfg m/t
performance, i was happy with them. i prefer the mtr, but cant recommend it
with as many miles as youll be driving.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Re: What tire to buy
 

"John Welch" <jcwelch@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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> Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles.

wow, lucky you! i really enjoy driving my wrangler and still find myself
looking for excuses to go places just so i can drive it more.

> On weekends I will be in
> muddy pastures

i think this would rule out the a/t. opinions seem to vary, but i think the
bfg a/t becomes slick _way_ to fast in the mud. im not a big fan anymore of
the bfg m/t, but only because bfg is a french company (not a "valid" reason
by which to base a recommendation, i know). as far as the bfg m/t
performance, i was happy with them. i prefer the mtr, but cant recommend it
with as many miles as youll be driving.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Re: What tire to buy
 

I run both.

I have the muds on the CJ7 and the AT's on the Cherokee.

I wish in hindsight we hadn't swapped tires and rims on the Cherokee.
It used to have almost a mud tire on it, a Hercules Terra Trac tire. My
wife and a friend liked each others rims and we both had new tires, so
we swapped because my wife drives mostly on the street.

The mud tire (terra trac) is a better all round tire for our application
where we are on the road when snow plows aren't out and they can run
circles around the AT's off road which is why our friend wanted to
swap. We were just cruising up stuff that he had to take several tries
at with the AT's.

And in wet grassy mud, the AT's turn to slicks pretty easy, the bigger
lugs clear out.

In the snow or on ice, well I'll take the CJ7 with it's muds any day.
The AT's aren't bad by any means, the muds are just better...

I also am running tall skinny muds that have a 7.5" wide tread. The
P235 AT's have an 8.5" wide tread.

Tall skinny rules! Just check out what any logger or other person that
has to work in the bush runs. You won't see any fat tires out there.

Folks used to chuckle at my 'pizza cutters' or 'chainsaws' as they call
them on my open diffs until they realized, locker or no lockers, they
weren't getting to that top of the ravine with their fat tires where I
am sitting taking photos of their attempts. LOL!

On the highway the muds behave well, not even too noisy. We took the
CJ7 on a 4600 mile trip and it ran sweet. I also had a 45 mile round
trip to work for years and used the CJ7 as my daily driver.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

John Welch wrote:
>
> 99 Wrangler.
> I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> better compromise.
> I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
>
> Thank you very much
> John Welch
> >/<

Re: What tire to buy
 

I run both.

I have the muds on the CJ7 and the AT's on the Cherokee.

I wish in hindsight we hadn't swapped tires and rims on the Cherokee.
It used to have almost a mud tire on it, a Hercules Terra Trac tire. My
wife and a friend liked each others rims and we both had new tires, so
we swapped because my wife drives mostly on the street.

The mud tire (terra trac) is a better all round tire for our application
where we are on the road when snow plows aren't out and they can run
circles around the AT's off road which is why our friend wanted to
swap. We were just cruising up stuff that he had to take several tries
at with the AT's.

And in wet grassy mud, the AT's turn to slicks pretty easy, the bigger
lugs clear out.

In the snow or on ice, well I'll take the CJ7 with it's muds any day.
The AT's aren't bad by any means, the muds are just better...

I also am running tall skinny muds that have a 7.5" wide tread. The
P235 AT's have an 8.5" wide tread.

Tall skinny rules! Just check out what any logger or other person that
has to work in the bush runs. You won't see any fat tires out there.

Folks used to chuckle at my 'pizza cutters' or 'chainsaws' as they call
them on my open diffs until they realized, locker or no lockers, they
weren't getting to that top of the ravine with their fat tires where I
am sitting taking photos of their attempts. LOL!

On the highway the muds behave well, not even too noisy. We took the
CJ7 on a 4600 mile trip and it ran sweet. I also had a 45 mile round
trip to work for years and used the CJ7 as my daily driver.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

John Welch wrote:
>
> 99 Wrangler.
> I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> better compromise.
> I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
>
> Thank you very much
> John Welch
> >/<

Re: What tire to buy
 

Does tire size really affect your turning radius that much?


> I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> Jeeps) so planning on 31's.

Re: What tire to buy
 

Does tire size really affect your turning radius that much?


> I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> Jeeps) so planning on 31's.

Re: What tire to buy
 

Yes.

A wide tire will rub at full turn. You can stop the rub by adding a
washer or two to the steering stop bolts, but either way, the turning
radius is affected.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> Does tire size really affect your turning radius that much?
>
> > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.

Re: What tire to buy
 

Yes.

A wide tire will rub at full turn. You can stop the rub by adding a
washer or two to the steering stop bolts, but either way, the turning
radius is affected.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> Does tire size really affect your turning radius that much?
>
> > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.

Re: What tire to buy
 

Yes. Well, not alot, but some. What happens is the larger tires can rub on
the undercarriage components during a Uturn. The corrective action is to
make the turning radius larger.




"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> Does tire size really affect your turning radius that much?
>
>
> > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.