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I have a set up Pro Comp AT and they work very well. Also, you can get a no
questions asked warranty on them. If you rip a sidewall out, you get a new
one. They are priced nice also.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
questions asked warranty on them. If you rip a sidewall out, you get a new
one. They are priced nice also.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
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I have a set up Pro Comp AT and they work very well. Also, you can get a no
questions asked warranty on them. If you rip a sidewall out, you get a new
one. They are priced nice also.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
questions asked warranty on them. If you rip a sidewall out, you get a new
one. They are priced nice also.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
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I have a set up Pro Comp AT and they work very well. Also, you can get a no
questions asked warranty on them. If you rip a sidewall out, you get a new
one. They are priced nice also.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
questions asked warranty on them. If you rip a sidewall out, you get a new
one. They are priced nice also.
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Qw3fb.38093$gv5.3249@fed1read05...
> Im not trying to put you down, but everyone kinda knows that the thornbird
> TSL's are junk Good decision to get rid of them! The Goodyear MTR's are
a
> bit pricey but I love them. There are also a ton of new tires on the
market
> that I dont know much about yet.
> KH
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310020727.55b9694@posting.google.co m...
> > I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
> > between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
> > are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
> > a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
> > well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
> >
> >
> > Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> > > My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> > > aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> > > aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow
> boards.
> > > I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle
of
> > > mud season for $85 each.
> > >
> > > Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud
and
> > > snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to
a
> > > sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> > > loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> > > look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> > > they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and
sand.
> > >
> > > After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked
back.
> > > They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I
got
> > > $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> > > they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> > > snow and mud then my AT's were.
> > > I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> > > I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and
spring.
> > > It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> > > year in and year out.
> > >
> > > You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled
this
> > > driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no
problem
> > > plowing it in the winter. ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
> > > 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Welch wrote:
> > > > 99 Wrangler.
> > > > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > > > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > > > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > > > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be
in
> > > > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > > > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > > > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not
rocks.
> > > > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > > > better compromise.
> > > > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > > John Welch
> > > >
> > > >>/<
> > > >
>
>
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Mine dont. fill up, they just keep grabbing till the cows come home.
KH
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Well, both. They just gum up as quick as the ATs.
>
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:Yjefb.192$Yx2.103121024@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> >
> >>My MT/Rs don't do much, if any, better than my BFG
> >>ATs in the mud.
> >
> >
> > my mtr's are considerably better than my bfg a/ts in mud. are you
running
> > in high or low range?
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
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>
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"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Well, both. They just gum up as quick as the ATs.
>
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:Yjefb.192$Yx2.103121024@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> >
> >>My MT/Rs don't do much, if any, better than my BFG
> >>ATs in the mud.
> >
> >
> > my mtr's are considerably better than my bfg a/ts in mud. are you
running
> > in high or low range?
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
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Mine dont. fill up, they just keep grabbing till the cows come home.
KH
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Well, both. They just gum up as quick as the ATs.
>
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:Yjefb.192$Yx2.103121024@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> >
> >>My MT/Rs don't do much, if any, better than my BFG
> >>ATs in the mud.
> >
> >
> > my mtr's are considerably better than my bfg a/ts in mud. are you
running
> > in high or low range?
> >
>
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"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Well, both. They just gum up as quick as the ATs.
>
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:Yjefb.192$Yx2.103121024@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> >
> >>My MT/Rs don't do much, if any, better than my BFG
> >>ATs in the mud.
> >
> >
> > my mtr's are considerably better than my bfg a/ts in mud. are you
running
> > in high or low range?
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
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Mine dont. fill up, they just keep grabbing till the cows come home.
KH
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Well, both. They just gum up as quick as the ATs.
>
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:Yjefb.192$Yx2.103121024@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> >
> >>My MT/Rs don't do much, if any, better than my BFG
> >>ATs in the mud.
> >
> >
> > my mtr's are considerably better than my bfg a/ts in mud. are you
running
> > in high or low range?
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
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"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Well, both. They just gum up as quick as the ATs.
>
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:Yjefb.192$Yx2.103121024@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> >
> >>My MT/Rs don't do much, if any, better than my BFG
> >>ATs in the mud.
> >
> >
> > my mtr's are considerably better than my bfg a/ts in mud. are you
running
> > in high or low range?
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
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Everyones posts just about cover that one.
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310031312.32c9e22@posting.google.co m...
> > Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> > search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> > about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> > along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> > here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> > discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> > rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> > tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
> >
> > I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> > it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> > off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> > highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> > would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> > this breakdown.
> >
>
> Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
> something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
> much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi,
they
> will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
> find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
> Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
> don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for
dry
> dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.
>
> Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
> offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
> offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
> AT K/O.
>
>
>
>
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310031312.32c9e22@posting.google.co m...
> > Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> > search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> > about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> > along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> > here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> > discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> > rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> > tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
> >
> > I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> > it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> > off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> > highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> > would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> > this breakdown.
> >
>
> Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
> something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
> much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi,
they
> will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
> find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
> Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
> don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for
dry
> dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.
>
> Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
> offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
> offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
> AT K/O.
>
>
>
>
Guest
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Everyones posts just about cover that one.
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310031312.32c9e22@posting.google.co m...
> > Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> > search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> > about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> > along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> > here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> > discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> > rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> > tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
> >
> > I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> > it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> > off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> > highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> > would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> > this breakdown.
> >
>
> Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
> something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
> much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi,
they
> will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
> find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
> Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
> don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for
dry
> dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.
>
> Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
> offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
> offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
> AT K/O.
>
>
>
>
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310031312.32c9e22@posting.google.co m...
> > Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> > search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> > about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> > along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> > here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> > discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> > rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> > tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
> >
> > I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> > it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> > off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> > highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> > would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> > this breakdown.
> >
>
> Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
> something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
> much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi,
they
> will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
> find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
> Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
> don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for
dry
> dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.
>
> Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
> offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
> offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
> AT K/O.
>
>
>
>
Guest
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Everyones posts just about cover that one.
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310031312.32c9e22@posting.google.co m...
> > Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> > search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> > about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> > along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> > here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> > discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> > rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> > tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
> >
> > I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> > it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> > off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> > highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> > would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> > this breakdown.
> >
>
> Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
> something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
> much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi,
they
> will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
> find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
> Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
> don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for
dry
> dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.
>
> Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
> offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
> offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
> AT K/O.
>
>
>
>
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310031312.32c9e22@posting.google.co m...
> > Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> > search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> > about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> > along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> > here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> > discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> > rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> > tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
> >
> > I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> > it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> > off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> > highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> > would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> > this breakdown.
> >
>
> Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
> something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
> much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi,
they
> will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
> find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
> Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
> don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for
dry
> dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.
>
> Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
> offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
> offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
> AT K/O.
>
>
>
>
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Neither have gotten me stuck either (see how I blame the TIRE if I get
stuck).
BTW, what time DO the cows come home?
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> Mine dont. fill up, they just keep grabbing till the cows come home.
> KH
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Hhkfb.279$gP3.140701744@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
>
>>Well, both. They just gum up as quick as the ATs.
>>
>>Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Yjefb.192$Yx2.103121024@newssvr11.news.pro digy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>My MT/Rs don't do much, if any, better than my BFG
>>>>ATs in the mud.
>>>
>>>
>>>my mtr's are considerably better than my bfg a/ts in mud. are you
>
> running
>
>>>in high or low range?
>>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
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>
>
>
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01 XJ Sport
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stuck).
BTW, what time DO the cows come home?
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> Mine dont. fill up, they just keep grabbing till the cows come home.
> KH
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Hhkfb.279$gP3.140701744@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
>
>>Well, both. They just gum up as quick as the ATs.
>>
>>Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Yjefb.192$Yx2.103121024@newssvr11.news.pro digy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>My MT/Rs don't do much, if any, better than my BFG
>>>>ATs in the mud.
>>>
>>>
>>>my mtr's are considerably better than my bfg a/ts in mud. are you
>
> running
>
>>>in high or low range?
>>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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>
>
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01 XJ Sport
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