Neither have gotten me stuck either (see how I blame the TIRE if I get
stuck).

BTW, what time DO the cows come home?

Kevin in San Diego wrote:

> Mine dont. fill up, they just keep grabbing till the cows come home.
> KH
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Hhkfb.279$gP3.140701744@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
>
>>Well, both. They just gum up as quick as the ATs.
>>
>>Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Yjefb.192$Yx2.103121024@newssvr11.news.pro digy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>My MT/Rs don't do much, if any, better than my BFG
>>>>ATs in the mud.
>>>
>>>
>>>my mtr's are considerably better than my bfg a/ts in mud. are you
>
> running
>
>>>in high or low range?
>>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

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Neither have gotten me stuck either (see how I blame the TIRE if I get
stuck).

BTW, what time DO the cows come home?

Kevin in San Diego wrote:

> Mine dont. fill up, they just keep grabbing till the cows come home.
> KH
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Hhkfb.279$gP3.140701744@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
>
>>Well, both. They just gum up as quick as the ATs.
>>
>>Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Yjefb.192$Yx2.103121024@newssvr11.news.pro digy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>My MT/Rs don't do much, if any, better than my BFG
>>>>ATs in the mud.
>>>
>>>
>>>my mtr's are considerably better than my bfg a/ts in mud. are you
>
> running
>
>>>in high or low range?
>>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

We went for 31's on our TJ. They rubbed slightly, so we added ONE
washer to each steering stop. I was very surprised to see that small
addition back the wheel away from the stop by close to an inch.
Everything still steers okay, but the steering circle was obviously
increased, even if I don't "feel" it.

Joshua Nelson wrote:

> Does tire size really affect your turning radius that much?
>
>
>
>>I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
>>Jeeps) so planning on 31's.

 

We went for 31's on our TJ. They rubbed slightly, so we added ONE
washer to each steering stop. I was very surprised to see that small
addition back the wheel away from the stop by close to an inch.
Everything still steers okay, but the steering circle was obviously
increased, even if I don't "feel" it.

Joshua Nelson wrote:

> Does tire size really affect your turning radius that much?
>
>
>
>>I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
>>Jeeps) so planning on 31's.

 

We went for 31's on our TJ. They rubbed slightly, so we added ONE
washer to each steering stop. I was very surprised to see that small
addition back the wheel away from the stop by close to an inch.
Everything still steers okay, but the steering circle was obviously
increased, even if I don't "feel" it.

Joshua Nelson wrote:

> Does tire size really affect your turning radius that much?
>
>
>
>>I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
>>Jeeps) so planning on 31's.

 

Thanks, I will look into that. Meanwhile, can I interest you in a
slightly used set of Thornbirds? :-)


"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<vnruuo1d2effd3@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310031312.32c9e22@posting.google.co m...
> > Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> > search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> > about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> > along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> > here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> > discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> > rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> > tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
> >
> > I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> > it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> > off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> > highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> > would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> > this breakdown.
> >
>
> Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
> something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
> much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi, they
> will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
> find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
> Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
> don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for dry
> dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.
>
> Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
> offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
> offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
> AT K/O.

 

Thanks, I will look into that. Meanwhile, can I interest you in a
slightly used set of Thornbirds? :-)


"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<vnruuo1d2effd3@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310031312.32c9e22@posting.google.co m...
> > Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> > search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> > about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> > along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> > here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> > discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> > rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> > tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
> >
> > I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> > it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> > off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> > highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> > would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> > this breakdown.
> >
>
> Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
> something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
> much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi, they
> will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
> find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
> Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
> don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for dry
> dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.
>
> Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
> offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
> offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
> AT K/O.

 

Thanks, I will look into that. Meanwhile, can I interest you in a
slightly used set of Thornbirds? :-)


"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<vnruuo1d2effd3@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310031312.32c9e22@posting.google.co m...
> > Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> > search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> > about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> > along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> > here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> > discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> > rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> > tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
> >
> > I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> > it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> > off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> > highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> > would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> > this breakdown.
> >
>
> Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
> something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
> much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi, they
> will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
> find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
> Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
> don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for dry
> dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.
>
> Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
> offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
> offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
> AT K/O.

 

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310060615.37e174ee@posting.google.c om...
> Thanks, I will look into that. Meanwhile, can I interest you in a
> slightly used set of Thornbirds? :-)
>
>


No, they are way too noisy for me.

 

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310060615.37e174ee@posting.google.c om...
> Thanks, I will look into that. Meanwhile, can I interest you in a
> slightly used set of Thornbirds? :-)
>
>


No, they are way too noisy for me.