What tire to buy
10-01-2003, 02:03 PM
#11
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Re: What tire to buy
Yes. Well, not alot, but some. What happens is the larger tires can rub on
the undercarriage components during a Uturn. The corrective action is to
make the turning radius larger.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> Does tire size really affect your turning radius that much?
>
>
> > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
the undercarriage components during a Uturn. The corrective action is to
make the turning radius larger.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> Does tire size really affect your turning radius that much?
>
>
> > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
10-01-2003, 02:24 PM
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Re: What tire to buy
My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
mud season for $85 each.
Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
$100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
snow and mud then my AT's were.
I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
year in and year out.
You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
plowing it in the winter. ;-)
Cheers!
Perry
87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
John Welch wrote:
> 99 Wrangler.
> I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> better compromise.
> I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
>
> Thank you very much
> John Welch
>
>>/<
>
aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
mud season for $85 each.
Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
$100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
snow and mud then my AT's were.
I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
year in and year out.
You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
plowing it in the winter. ;-)
Cheers!
Perry
87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
John Welch wrote:
> 99 Wrangler.
> I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> better compromise.
> I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
>
> Thank you very much
> John Welch
>
>>/<
>
10-01-2003, 02:24 PM
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Re: What tire to buy
My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
mud season for $85 each.
Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
$100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
snow and mud then my AT's were.
I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
year in and year out.
You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
plowing it in the winter. ;-)
Cheers!
Perry
87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
John Welch wrote:
> 99 Wrangler.
> I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> better compromise.
> I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
>
> Thank you very much
> John Welch
>
>>/<
>
aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
mud season for $85 each.
Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
$100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
snow and mud then my AT's were.
I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
year in and year out.
You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
plowing it in the winter. ;-)
Cheers!
Perry
87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
John Welch wrote:
> 99 Wrangler.
> I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> better compromise.
> I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
>
> Thank you very much
> John Welch
>
>>/<
>
10-01-2003, 02:41 PM
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Re: What tire to buy
Get the MT's in my opinion. I was in the same situation, and leaning
toward the AT's. Finally decided to 'settle' with the MT's and just
deal with whatever on-road drawbacks they had. Turned out to be a very
street-able tire, and I've had no complaints. And my commute is 70
miles a day.
Dave
http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 1 Oct 2003 05:09:46 -0700, jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) wrote:
>99 Wrangler.
>I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
>Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
>Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
>drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
>muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
>need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
>christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
>better compromise.
>I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
>
>Thank you very much
>John Welch
>>/<
toward the AT's. Finally decided to 'settle' with the MT's and just
deal with whatever on-road drawbacks they had. Turned out to be a very
street-able tire, and I've had no complaints. And my commute is 70
miles a day.
Dave
http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 1 Oct 2003 05:09:46 -0700, jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) wrote:
>99 Wrangler.
>I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
>Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
>Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
>drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
>muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
>need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
>christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
>better compromise.
>I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
>
>Thank you very much
>John Welch
>>/<
10-01-2003, 02:41 PM
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Re: What tire to buy
Get the MT's in my opinion. I was in the same situation, and leaning
toward the AT's. Finally decided to 'settle' with the MT's and just
deal with whatever on-road drawbacks they had. Turned out to be a very
street-able tire, and I've had no complaints. And my commute is 70
miles a day.
Dave
http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 1 Oct 2003 05:09:46 -0700, jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) wrote:
>99 Wrangler.
>I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
>Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
>Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
>drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
>muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
>need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
>christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
>better compromise.
>I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
>
>Thank you very much
>John Welch
>>/<
toward the AT's. Finally decided to 'settle' with the MT's and just
deal with whatever on-road drawbacks they had. Turned out to be a very
street-able tire, and I've had no complaints. And my commute is 70
miles a day.
Dave
http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 1 Oct 2003 05:09:46 -0700, jcwelch@hal-pc.org (John Welch) wrote:
>99 Wrangler.
>I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
>Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
>Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
>drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
>muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
>need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
>christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
>better compromise.
>I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
>
>Thank you very much
>John Welch
>>/<
10-01-2003, 02:48 PM
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Re: What tire to buy
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The corrective action is to
> make the turning radius larger.
or to use wheels of proper back spacing for the tire thats being used.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
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> The corrective action is to
> make the turning radius larger.
or to use wheels of proper back spacing for the tire thats being used.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
10-01-2003, 02:48 PM
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Re: What tire to buy
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The corrective action is to
> make the turning radius larger.
or to use wheels of proper back spacing for the tire thats being used.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:vnm5q63tcte086@corp.supernews.com...
> The corrective action is to
> make the turning radius larger.
or to use wheels of proper back spacing for the tire thats being used.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
10-01-2003, 03:20 PM
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Re: What tire to buy
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vnm5q63tcte086@corp.supernews.com...
> > The corrective action is to
> > make the turning radius larger.
>
> or to use wheels of proper back spacing for the tire thats being used.
>
> --
That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
Just big tires alone, never mind off roading big tires causes fast front
end wear, go with a wide off set rims and you can likely double the wear
rate. It will be some % higher, don't know about double, but you get my
drift.
Same goes for those spacers you can put on the hubs to off set rims
wider.
A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
levers.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vnm5q63tcte086@corp.supernews.com...
> > The corrective action is to
> > make the turning radius larger.
>
> or to use wheels of proper back spacing for the tire thats being used.
>
> --
That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
Just big tires alone, never mind off roading big tires causes fast front
end wear, go with a wide off set rims and you can likely double the wear
rate. It will be some % higher, don't know about double, but you get my
drift.
Same goes for those spacers you can put on the hubs to off set rims
wider.
A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
levers.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-01-2003, 03:20 PM
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Re: What tire to buy
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vnm5q63tcte086@corp.supernews.com...
> > The corrective action is to
> > make the turning radius larger.
>
> or to use wheels of proper back spacing for the tire thats being used.
>
> --
That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
Just big tires alone, never mind off roading big tires causes fast front
end wear, go with a wide off set rims and you can likely double the wear
rate. It will be some % higher, don't know about double, but you get my
drift.
Same goes for those spacers you can put on the hubs to off set rims
wider.
A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
levers.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vnm5q63tcte086@corp.supernews.com...
> > The corrective action is to
> > make the turning radius larger.
>
> or to use wheels of proper back spacing for the tire thats being used.
>
> --
That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
Just big tires alone, never mind off roading big tires causes fast front
end wear, go with a wide off set rims and you can likely double the wear
rate. It will be some % higher, don't know about double, but you get my
drift.
Same goes for those spacers you can put on the hubs to off set rims
wider.
A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
levers.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
10-01-2003, 04:12 PM
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Re: What tire to buy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
<snip>
> A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
> levers.
while im with you in theory, in real world applications if an inch or two of
offset is going to cause failure then youre pitifully under-equipped to
begin with. i wouldnt hesitate to run even 2" of offset on a dana 30. i
cant see 2" of offset being as hard on a dana 30 as say this
http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/yj/pete/2.jpg
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:3F7B28FB.BD2E3F0E@sympatico.ca...
> That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
<snip>
> A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
> levers.
while im with you in theory, in real world applications if an inch or two of
offset is going to cause failure then youre pitifully under-equipped to
begin with. i wouldnt hesitate to run even 2" of offset on a dana 30. i
cant see 2" of offset being as hard on a dana 30 as say this
http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/yj/pete/2.jpg
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com