What tire to buy
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Re: What tire to buy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
<snip>
> A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
> levers.
while im with you in theory, in real world applications if an inch or two of
offset is going to cause failure then youre pitifully under-equipped to
begin with. i wouldnt hesitate to run even 2" of offset on a dana 30. i
cant see 2" of offset being as hard on a dana 30 as say this
http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/yj/pete/2.jpg
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http://7SlotGrille.com
news:3F7B28FB.BD2E3F0E@sympatico.ca...
> That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
<snip>
> A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
> levers.
while im with you in theory, in real world applications if an inch or two of
offset is going to cause failure then youre pitifully under-equipped to
begin with. i wouldnt hesitate to run even 2" of offset on a dana 30. i
cant see 2" of offset being as hard on a dana 30 as say this
http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/yj/pete/2.jpg
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
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Re: What tire to buy
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B28FB.BD2E3F0E@sympatico.ca...
> > That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
>
> <snip>
>
> > A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
> > levers.
>
> while im with you in theory, in real world applications if an inch or two of
> offset is going to cause failure then youre pitifully under-equipped to
> begin with. i wouldnt hesitate to run even 2" of offset on a dana 30. i
> cant see 2" of offset being as hard on a dana 30 as say this
> http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/yj/pete/2.jpg
>
> --
No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
And yup, that is a perfect example of more stress and wear on front end
parts off roading. LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B28FB.BD2E3F0E@sympatico.ca...
> > That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
>
> <snip>
>
> > A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
> > levers.
>
> while im with you in theory, in real world applications if an inch or two of
> offset is going to cause failure then youre pitifully under-equipped to
> begin with. i wouldnt hesitate to run even 2" of offset on a dana 30. i
> cant see 2" of offset being as hard on a dana 30 as say this
> http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/yj/pete/2.jpg
>
> --
No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
And yup, that is a perfect example of more stress and wear on front end
parts off roading. LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: What tire to buy
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B28FB.BD2E3F0E@sympatico.ca...
> > That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
>
> <snip>
>
> > A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
> > levers.
>
> while im with you in theory, in real world applications if an inch or two of
> offset is going to cause failure then youre pitifully under-equipped to
> begin with. i wouldnt hesitate to run even 2" of offset on a dana 30. i
> cant see 2" of offset being as hard on a dana 30 as say this
> http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/yj/pete/2.jpg
>
> --
No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
And yup, that is a perfect example of more stress and wear on front end
parts off roading. LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B28FB.BD2E3F0E@sympatico.ca...
> > That does create a lot of extra stress and wear on front end parts.
>
> <snip>
>
> > A 'little' wider stance make a radical difference on the stress. Think
> > levers.
>
> while im with you in theory, in real world applications if an inch or two of
> offset is going to cause failure then youre pitifully under-equipped to
> begin with. i wouldnt hesitate to run even 2" of offset on a dana 30. i
> cant see 2" of offset being as hard on a dana 30 as say this
> http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/yj/pete/2.jpg
>
> --
No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
And yup, that is a perfect example of more stress and wear on front end
parts off roading. LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: What tire to buy
Of course, it's not a problem for Real Jeeps, using floating
bearings like the 3/4 Ton trucks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
bearings like the 3/4 Ton trucks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
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Re: What tire to buy
Of course, it's not a problem for Real Jeeps, using floating
bearings like the 3/4 Ton trucks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
bearings like the 3/4 Ton trucks.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
performance.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:3F7B38CF.29F6AF85@sympatico.ca...
> No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
performance.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
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Re: What tire to buy
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7B38CF.29F6AF85@sympatico.ca...
> No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
performance.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:3F7B38CF.29F6AF85@sympatico.ca...
> No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
performance.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
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Re: What tire to buy
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B38CF.29F6AF85@sympatico.ca...
> > No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> > stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --
Agreed.
I just think losing turning radius, is a better option than the added
wear from a wide off set. So what if I have to do a 5 point turn
instead of a 3 point well... I don't with my 33x9.5's, they don't tag,
but others with wider tires like our Cherokee has do.
We have enough added wear to deal with already in my opinion.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B38CF.29F6AF85@sympatico.ca...
> > No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> > stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --
Agreed.
I just think losing turning radius, is a better option than the added
wear from a wide off set. So what if I have to do a 5 point turn
instead of a 3 point well... I don't with my 33x9.5's, they don't tag,
but others with wider tires like our Cherokee has do.
We have enough added wear to deal with already in my opinion.
Mike
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Re: What tire to buy
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B38CF.29F6AF85@sympatico.ca...
> > No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> > stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --
Agreed.
I just think losing turning radius, is a better option than the added
wear from a wide off set. So what if I have to do a 5 point turn
instead of a 3 point well... I don't with my 33x9.5's, they don't tag,
but others with wider tires like our Cherokee has do.
We have enough added wear to deal with already in my opinion.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7B38CF.29F6AF85@sympatico.ca...
> > No, I don't think anything like failure, just more/faster wear from
> > stress during normal street driving, let alone off roading.
>
> i gotcha...yeah, any off set that increases track will indeed cause
> additional wear. that said however, so do bigger tires, heavy bumpers, etc.
> just how much additional wear is unknown, i figure its the cost we pay for
> performance.
>
> --
Agreed.
I just think losing turning radius, is a better option than the added
wear from a wide off set. So what if I have to do a 5 point turn
instead of a 3 point well... I don't with my 33x9.5's, they don't tag,
but others with wider tires like our Cherokee has do.
We have enough added wear to deal with already in my opinion.
Mike
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Re: What tire to buy
I have 35 inch thornbird TSLs. They seem like a good compromise
between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
> I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> mud season for $85 each.
>
> Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
>
> After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> snow and mud then my AT's were.
> I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> year in and year out.
>
> You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> plowing it in the winter. ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Perry
>
> 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
>
>
>
>
> John Welch wrote:
> > 99 Wrangler.
> > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > better compromise.
> > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> >
> > Thank you very much
> > John Welch
> >
> >>/<
> >
between on road and off road performance (which I need both) but man
are they loud on the freeway. Driving over 70mph definitely gives me
a headache. Any suggestions on 35 inch tires that will perform as
well but perhaps be a bit quieter?
Perry Gagnon <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message news:<3F7B1C13.8060102@nospam.perryshome.com>...
> My YJ came with BFG Muds (33x12.5) When I bought it. I hated them.
> aside from a bit too noisy they sucked in the snow. Those hard rubber
> aggressive treads held packed snow and was like driving on 4 snow boards.
> I switched to All Terrain's (35x12.5) and sold the muds in the middle of
> mud season for $85 each.
>
> Then I ran the AT's that spring and summer and found them ok in mud and
> snow but lacking in sand. It's not uncommon to go from a mud bogg to a
> sand pit around here. The noise was much better but still a little too
> loud if it mattered. I talked to a local 4x4 shop and they told me to
> look at the new tread design on the Mickey Thompson Baja's. They said
> they were getting great reviews from the locals for snow, mud and sand.
>
> After seeing a set I upgraded to them (36X12.5) and haven't looked back.
> They were about $40 more in cost each than the AT' equivalents but I got
> $100 each for my 5 AT's in trade. I've had them on for 3 years now and
> they still have plenty of tread. They're quieter and are better in the
> snow and mud then my AT's were.
> I had a long, long dirt hill driveway that became mud in the spring.
> I needed 4x4's just to make it up to the house in the winter and spring.
> It is very easy to compare when you have the same testing driveway
> year in and year out.
>
> You might be surprised but I have an AWD Grand Caravan that handled this
> driveway/hill very well too. I also had a 1966 Scout that had no problem
> plowing it in the winter. ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Perry
>
> 87YJ 36X12.5 MT Baja's
>
>
>
>
> John Welch wrote:
> > 99 Wrangler.
> > I want to keep the tight turning radius (really love that on modern
> > Jeeps) so planning on 31's.
> > Over the next 4 years this jeep will see about 80,000 miles. I will
> > drive it 50 miles a day to work on freeway. On weekends I will be in
> > muddy pastures with cows and driving down firelanes in timberland (I
> > need to save up for lockers too. That will be another post around
> > christmas time (if I am a good boy)), so I am thinking mud, not rocks.
> > I like the looks of the BFG MT's, but am wondering if AT would be a
> > better compromise.
> > I would like to hear the experience of other Jeep owners.
> >
> > Thank you very much
> > John Welch
> >
> >>/<
> >