Jeff Strickland

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> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.
>

Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi, they
will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for dry
dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.

Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
AT K/O.

Jeff Strickland

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.
>

Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi, they
will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for dry
dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.

Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
AT K/O.

Peter Parker

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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
> Not if tires are spinning at seventy miles an hour. I don't have
>any pictures of that, other than it looks kind of like the sand in this
>picture: http://www.----------.com/pismo.jpg


Is it me or are your rear tires larger than your front ones?


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Peter Parker

In article <3F7DD4B8.8B8C4210@***.net>,
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> Not if tires are spinning at seventy miles an hour. I don't have
>any pictures of that, other than it looks kind of like the sand in this
>picture: http://www.----------.com/pismo.jpg


Is it me or are your rear tires larger than your front ones?


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Peter Parker

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> Not if tires are spinning at seventy miles an hour. I don't have
>any pictures of that, other than it looks kind of like the sand in this
>picture: http://www.----------.com/pismo.jpg


Is it me or are your rear tires larger than your front ones?


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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

You are correct, 32" 11X15 Armstrong Tru-Trac fronts, and 36"
16.50X16 cross grooved Goodyear drag slicks on the rear. The difference
in ratios it creates doesn't matter much as the front are rarely on the
ground:
http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...jeepup.jpg.jpg
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

You are correct, 32" 11X15 Armstrong Tru-Trac fronts, and 36"
16.50X16 cross grooved Goodyear drag slicks on the rear. The difference
in ratios it creates doesn't matter much as the front are rarely on the
ground:
http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...jeepup.jpg.jpg
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

You are correct, 32" 11X15 Armstrong Tru-Trac fronts, and 36"
16.50X16 cross grooved Goodyear drag slicks on the rear. The difference
in ratios it creates doesn't matter much as the front are rarely on the
ground:
http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...jeepup.jpg.jpg
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Peter Parker

In article <3F7E149C.10CD3ED3@***.net>,
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
> You are correct, 32" 11X15 Armstrong Tru-Trac fronts, and 36"
>16.50X16 cross grooved Goodyear drag slicks on the rear. The difference
>in ratios it creates doesn't matter much as the front are rarely on the
>ground:
>http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...jeepup.jpg.jpg

That looks like a lot of fun. I was wondering why you mentioned ratio
diffs in a previous post and now I know why.

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Peter Parker

In article <3F7E149C.10CD3ED3@***.net>,
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
> You are correct, 32" 11X15 Armstrong Tru-Trac fronts, and 36"
>16.50X16 cross grooved Goodyear drag slicks on the rear. The difference
>in ratios it creates doesn't matter much as the front are rarely on the
>ground:
>http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...jeepup.jpg.jpg

That looks like a lot of fun. I was wondering why you mentioned ratio
diffs in a previous post and now I know why.

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>Peter Parker wrote:
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