For those driving conditions, I'd use the Goodyear MT/R.

Joshua Nelson wrote:

> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.

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For those driving conditions, I'd use the Goodyear MT/R.

Joshua Nelson wrote:

> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

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For those driving conditions, I'd use the Goodyear MT/R.

Joshua Nelson wrote:

> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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They are the old belted bias tires, that usually mean they're
square in the mornings, are yours?
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Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.

 

They are the old belted bias tires, that usually mean they're
square in the mornings, are yours?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.

 

They are the old belted bias tires, that usually mean they're
square in the mornings, are yours?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.

 

For your use, they likely will do you fine.

Most folks have no trouble with them in dry situations and say they work
great.

Just be aware of the limitations, like any tire, none are good for
'everything'!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.
>
> >
> > hi joshua,
> > the thornbird lugs are not self cleaning. once you spin them in the mud
> > they turn slick fast and stay that way. if you dont encounter mud, they
> > should be fine as a general trail tire but their aggressive look far exceeds
> > their actual capabilities.

 

For your use, they likely will do you fine.

Most folks have no trouble with them in dry situations and say they work
great.

Just be aware of the limitations, like any tire, none are good for
'everything'!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.
>
> >
> > hi joshua,
> > the thornbird lugs are not self cleaning. once you spin them in the mud
> > they turn slick fast and stay that way. if you dont encounter mud, they
> > should be fine as a general trail tire but their aggressive look far exceeds
> > their actual capabilities.

 

For your use, they likely will do you fine.

Most folks have no trouble with them in dry situations and say they work
great.

Just be aware of the limitations, like any tire, none are good for
'everything'!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.
>
> >
> > hi joshua,
> > the thornbird lugs are not self cleaning. once you spin them in the mud
> > they turn slick fast and stay that way. if you dont encounter mud, they
> > should be fine as a general trail tire but their aggressive look far exceeds
> > their actual capabilities.

 

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310031312.32c9e22@posting.google.co m...
> Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
> search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
> about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
> along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
> here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
> discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
> rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
> tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.
>
> I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
> it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
> off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
> highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
> would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
> this breakdown.
>

Given the usage you describe, I think your next set of tires should be
something along thelines of the All Terrain KO from BFG. They will give a
much quieter ride on the highway, and when aired down to 10 or 15 psi, they
will grip the rocks just about as good as a rock can be gripped. You can
find superior grip on rocks, but the cost is high noise while motoring to
Grandma's house, unless Grandma lives next door or across town, and you
don't need the freeway to get there. The best all around performance for dry
dirt and rocks and highway has got to be from the All Terrain KO.

Remember the golden rule, if it makes highway travel better, there will be
offroad trade offs, if offroading is improved there will be highway trade
offs. A good balance of offroad and highway will come from a tire like the
AT K/O.