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if you don't try to climb the dune you'll save yourself a half an hour
of work.
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"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> lol......bingo! if you look at my tach at http://7slotgrille.com/beach
> youll see what 4 to 1 does. you just cant get the wheelspin required to
> clean the lugs.
>
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> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Maybe I'll try a
> little more RPM and see if they clean off faster. Both of the MT/Rs and
> the ATs tend to cake up into a slick on me. I was a little disappointed.

yup, took awhile for me to figure out what i was doing wrong. 4 to 1 is
_great_ for crawling rocks, but its worthless in mud. luckily the 4.0 has
enough ***** to generate the necessary wheel spin in high range for most
circumstances.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:l_kfb.283$jX4.145330240@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> Maybe I'll try a
> little more RPM and see if they clean off faster. Both of the MT/Rs and
> the ATs tend to cake up into a slick on me. I was a little disappointed.

yup, took awhile for me to figure out what i was doing wrong. 4 to 1 is
_great_ for crawling rocks, but its worthless in mud. luckily the 4.0 has
enough ***** to generate the necessary wheel spin in high range for most
circumstances.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:l_kfb.283$jX4.145330240@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> Maybe I'll try a
> little more RPM and see if they clean off faster. Both of the MT/Rs and
> the ATs tend to cake up into a slick on me. I was a little disappointed.

yup, took awhile for me to figure out what i was doing wrong. 4 to 1 is
_great_ for crawling rocks, but its worthless in mud. luckily the 4.0 has
enough ***** to generate the necessary wheel spin in high range for most
circumstances.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.

I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
this breakdown.


>
> hi joshua,
> the thornbird lugs are not self cleaning. once you spin them in the mud
> they turn slick fast and stay that way. if you dont encounter mud, they
> should be fine as a general trail tire but their aggressive look far exceeds
> their actual capabilities.

 

Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.

I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
this breakdown.


>
> hi joshua,
> the thornbird lugs are not self cleaning. once you spin them in the mud
> they turn slick fast and stay that way. if you dont encounter mud, they
> should be fine as a general trail tire but their aggressive look far exceeds
> their actual capabilities.

 

Thanks guys, I took Mike's advice and went back and did a google
search, and there does seem to be an afwul lot of negative comments
about thornbirds. I notice however, that most of the comments are
along the lines of Thornbirds are way bad for mud. However around
here we have relatively little mud and mostly rock. I didn't see much
discussion about that... any ideas how they compare to other tires on
rock? These are the only tires I have ever had (other than OEM street
tires) so I don't know how they compare from experience.

I guess I will start thinking about changing tires sooner or later...
it sure would be nice to get something quieter on the freeway even if
off road performance was not an issue. My use is probably 70%
highway, 20% rock, 5% mud, and 5% miscellaneous (sand, snow, etc.) I
would appreciate any recommendations on what would be a good tire for
this breakdown.


>
> hi joshua,
> the thornbird lugs are not self cleaning. once you spin them in the mud
> they turn slick fast and stay that way. if you dont encounter mud, they
> should be fine as a general trail tire but their aggressive look far exceeds
> their actual capabilities.

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7DE0F3.C1E5E75D@sympatico.ca...
> Spinning the wheels to clear lugs is way easier in low range

hi mike,
keep in mind im referencing a 4 to 1 low range which is a world of
difference from the 2.72 to 1. you simply cannot spin the wheels fast
enough in low range to clean the lugs.

> If you spin, you are done in fast in either situation.

i invite you to come down and run one of these rural north carolina swamp
runs sometime. if you dont spin, you dont move and if you dont move, the
gators are gonna get ya. :-)


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7DE0F3.C1E5E75D@sympatico.ca...
> Spinning the wheels to clear lugs is way easier in low range

hi mike,
keep in mind im referencing a 4 to 1 low range which is a world of
difference from the 2.72 to 1. you simply cannot spin the wheels fast
enough in low range to clean the lugs.

> If you spin, you are done in fast in either situation.

i invite you to come down and run one of these rural north carolina swamp
runs sometime. if you dont spin, you dont move and if you dont move, the
gators are gonna get ya. :-)


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7DE0F3.C1E5E75D@sympatico.ca...
> Spinning the wheels to clear lugs is way easier in low range

hi mike,
keep in mind im referencing a 4 to 1 low range which is a world of
difference from the 2.72 to 1. you simply cannot spin the wheels fast
enough in low range to clean the lugs.

> If you spin, you are done in fast in either situation.

i invite you to come down and run one of these rural north carolina swamp
runs sometime. if you dont spin, you dont move and if you dont move, the
gators are gonna get ya. :-)


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com