Superwinch = junk
09-04-2003, 11:02 AM
#61
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Re: Superwinch = junk
"I appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm not
as experienced as they are"
I think it was the way you approached this...
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
as experienced as they are"
I think it was the way you approached this...
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
09-04-2003, 11:28 AM
#62
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Posts: n/a
Re: Superwinch = junk
Josh,
A ****** block works on the same principle as any pulley system such as an
old fashioned chain-fall engine hoist. By running the cable through the
pulley and then hooking it to your frame the load cuts in half. This is
because now the frame is handling half the weight and the winch is pulling
the other half. The negative is that now you have to pull twice as much
cable to move the same distance.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
A ****** block works on the same principle as any pulley system such as an
old fashioned chain-fall engine hoist. By running the cable through the
pulley and then hooking it to your frame the load cuts in half. This is
because now the frame is handling half the weight and the winch is pulling
the other half. The negative is that now you have to pull twice as much
cable to move the same distance.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
09-04-2003, 11:28 AM
#63
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Posts: n/a
Re: Superwinch = junk
Josh,
A ****** block works on the same principle as any pulley system such as an
old fashioned chain-fall engine hoist. By running the cable through the
pulley and then hooking it to your frame the load cuts in half. This is
because now the frame is handling half the weight and the winch is pulling
the other half. The negative is that now you have to pull twice as much
cable to move the same distance.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
A ****** block works on the same principle as any pulley system such as an
old fashioned chain-fall engine hoist. By running the cable through the
pulley and then hooking it to your frame the load cuts in half. This is
because now the frame is handling half the weight and the winch is pulling
the other half. The negative is that now you have to pull twice as much
cable to move the same distance.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
09-04-2003, 11:37 AM
#64
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Re: Superwinch = junk
A$$hole.
Hey jeeaholic, he's new to the sport, cut him some slack. His mistake isn't
so ridicules (Thinking a 4500 lb winch should be fine for his 3000lb Jeep).
He's paid a pretty high price for this mistake and he's unhappy, you
wouldn't be? It's jerks like you who give these forums the reputation they
have.
"Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:QpC5b.9134$Lk5.7267@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Idiot.
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been
able
> to
> > > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
> >
> > That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> > or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> > What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> > 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
> >
> > This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> > was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> > jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> > heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
> >
> > (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> > of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> > pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> > in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> > myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> > biceps!!)
> >
> > BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> > them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> > they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> > exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> > the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> > This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> > Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> > mud on it.
>
>
Hey jeeaholic, he's new to the sport, cut him some slack. His mistake isn't
so ridicules (Thinking a 4500 lb winch should be fine for his 3000lb Jeep).
He's paid a pretty high price for this mistake and he's unhappy, you
wouldn't be? It's jerks like you who give these forums the reputation they
have.
"Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:QpC5b.9134$Lk5.7267@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Idiot.
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been
able
> to
> > > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
> >
> > That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> > or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> > What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> > 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
> >
> > This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> > was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> > jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> > heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
> >
> > (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> > of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> > pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> > in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> > myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> > biceps!!)
> >
> > BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> > them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> > they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> > exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> > the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> > This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> > Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> > mud on it.
>
>
09-04-2003, 11:37 AM
#65
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Posts: n/a
Re: Superwinch = junk
A$$hole.
Hey jeeaholic, he's new to the sport, cut him some slack. His mistake isn't
so ridicules (Thinking a 4500 lb winch should be fine for his 3000lb Jeep).
He's paid a pretty high price for this mistake and he's unhappy, you
wouldn't be? It's jerks like you who give these forums the reputation they
have.
"Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:QpC5b.9134$Lk5.7267@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Idiot.
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been
able
> to
> > > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
> >
> > That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> > or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> > What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> > 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
> >
> > This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> > was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> > jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> > heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
> >
> > (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> > of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> > pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> > in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> > myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> > biceps!!)
> >
> > BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> > them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> > they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> > exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> > the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> > This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> > Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> > mud on it.
>
>
Hey jeeaholic, he's new to the sport, cut him some slack. His mistake isn't
so ridicules (Thinking a 4500 lb winch should be fine for his 3000lb Jeep).
He's paid a pretty high price for this mistake and he's unhappy, you
wouldn't be? It's jerks like you who give these forums the reputation they
have.
"Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:QpC5b.9134$Lk5.7267@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Idiot.
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been
able
> to
> > > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
> >
> > That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> > or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> > What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> > 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
> >
> > This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> > was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> > jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> > heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
> >
> > (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> > of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> > pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> > in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> > myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> > biceps!!)
> >
> > BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> > them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> > they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> > exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> > the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> > This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> > Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> > mud on it.
>
>
09-04-2003, 12:00 PM
#66
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Re: Superwinch = junk
ROFLMAO
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I have finally seen the ultimate NG post.
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > "Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Idiot.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks
to you.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I have finally seen the ultimate NG post.
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > "Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Idiot.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks
to you.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
09-04-2003, 12:00 PM
#67
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Re: Superwinch = junk
ROFLMAO
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:TBH5b.53$P95.25@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
> I have finally seen the ultimate NG post.
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > "Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Idiot.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks
to you.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:TBH5b.53$P95.25@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
> I have finally seen the ultimate NG post.
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > "Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Idiot.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks
to you.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
09-04-2003, 12:09 PM
#68
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Hey, *most* of the answers you got were helpful and civil. No one treated
you like a moron until you started acting like one. You attacked a
manufacturer (ref. the subject of this thread) and a supplier (quadratec)
immediately. You were informed that you had made a mistake and the
manufacturer and supplier were not at fault.
When you refused to accept that a 4500lb. winch can't pull a 3500 lb. jeep
out of axle deep mud, that's when people began to get annoyed with you.
Don't jump all over people for telling you the truth.
If you would like more information on proper sizing use of a winch, just
ask. There are many qualified people here who can help you. You may still
get some wise *** answers, but it's pretty easy to separate the helpful ones
and ignore the snippy ones.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
you like a moron until you started acting like one. You attacked a
manufacturer (ref. the subject of this thread) and a supplier (quadratec)
immediately. You were informed that you had made a mistake and the
manufacturer and supplier were not at fault.
When you refused to accept that a 4500lb. winch can't pull a 3500 lb. jeep
out of axle deep mud, that's when people began to get annoyed with you.
Don't jump all over people for telling you the truth.
If you would like more information on proper sizing use of a winch, just
ask. There are many qualified people here who can help you. You may still
get some wise *** answers, but it's pretty easy to separate the helpful ones
and ignore the snippy ones.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
09-04-2003, 12:09 PM
#69
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Superwinch = junk
Hey, *most* of the answers you got were helpful and civil. No one treated
you like a moron until you started acting like one. You attacked a
manufacturer (ref. the subject of this thread) and a supplier (quadratec)
immediately. You were informed that you had made a mistake and the
manufacturer and supplier were not at fault.
When you refused to accept that a 4500lb. winch can't pull a 3500 lb. jeep
out of axle deep mud, that's when people began to get annoyed with you.
Don't jump all over people for telling you the truth.
If you would like more information on proper sizing use of a winch, just
ask. There are many qualified people here who can help you. You may still
get some wise *** answers, but it's pretty easy to separate the helpful ones
and ignore the snippy ones.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
you like a moron until you started acting like one. You attacked a
manufacturer (ref. the subject of this thread) and a supplier (quadratec)
immediately. You were informed that you had made a mistake and the
manufacturer and supplier were not at fault.
When you refused to accept that a 4500lb. winch can't pull a 3500 lb. jeep
out of axle deep mud, that's when people began to get annoyed with you.
Don't jump all over people for telling you the truth.
If you would like more information on proper sizing use of a winch, just
ask. There are many qualified people here who can help you. You may still
get some wise *** answers, but it's pretty easy to separate the helpful ones
and ignore the snippy ones.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
09-04-2003, 12:18 PM
#70
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Superwinch = junk
"For more information on the Ramsey Winch Accessory Kit, click the picture
of the kit above. "
What picture?
There's no picture there, Nate.
:-)
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:ViJ5b.5519$rb3.115047@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> > Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> > some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> > appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> hi joshua,
> see http://7slotgrille.com/projects/00sa...ckit/index.htm
>
> you run the cable through the ****** block, you put the strap around the
> tree, you connect the ****** block and strap together using the shackle,
and
> then you connect the cable either to another stationary object or back to
> the same jeep being pulled.
>
> if you want to see how all this works together in real time video, ramsey
> has a free video available for download. its about 11 megs, so right
click
> and "save as".
> http://ramsey.com/video/Ramsey_Safety100k.wmv
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
of the kit above. "
What picture?
There's no picture there, Nate.
:-)
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:ViJ5b.5519$rb3.115047@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> > Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> > some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> > appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> hi joshua,
> see http://7slotgrille.com/projects/00sa...ckit/index.htm
>
> you run the cable through the ****** block, you put the strap around the
> tree, you connect the ****** block and strap together using the shackle,
and
> then you connect the cable either to another stationary object or back to
> the same jeep being pulled.
>
> if you want to see how all this works together in real time video, ramsey
> has a free video available for download. its about 11 megs, so right
click
> and "save as".
> http://ramsey.com/video/Ramsey_Safety100k.wmv
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
