Superwinch = junk
09-03-2003, 11:02 PM
#41
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Re: Superwinch <> junk
What, you can't lift yours out? that's what the hand holds are for:
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"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> joshua,
> best example i can think of to demonstrate the difference is this. try
> pushing your jeep on a flat hard surface. even at 3500 pounds its an easy
> push. now try pushing your jeep after you got it stuck. whats that, you
> cant move it? it _still_ only weighs 3500 pounds.....the winch feels the
> same difference.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:aBWdnU2zy8hTH8uiXTWJiw@comcast.com...
> > You don't read very well, do you? Either that, or you were too busy
> > thinking of how you were going to phrase your next argument, you didn't
> hear
> > anything anyone here said.
> > A winch rated at 4500 lbs. is rated at that pull over a flat surface with
> 1
> > or 2 turns on the spool. It's not rated to pull 3000-3500 lbs of jeep up
> > out of four one-foot holes in the mud.
> > Think in terms of the hole your tire is in. It is shaped like the tire.
> It
> > is about a foot deep (at best) and the tire has to climb out of it in
> order
> > to get onto flatter ground. The climb is probably as much as 30 to 45
> > degrees (sometimes more). The tire is encased in the mud with an
> air-tight
> > seal. In order for the tire to get out, you're pulling a partial vacuum
> > under it until you break the seal and the air is sucked in.
> > Read our collective lips: Your winch is too small!! If you want to put a
> > winch on your TJ, it should be 8000 lb. rating or higher. (You *might* be
> > able to get away with 6000 lbs., but not in axle-deep mud)
> >
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > > > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > > > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been
> able
> > to
> > > > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
> > >
> > > That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> > > or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> > > What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> > > 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
> > >
> > > This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> > > was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> > > jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> > > heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
> > >
> > > (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> > > of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> > > pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> > > in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> > > myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> > > biceps!!)
> > >
> > > BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> > > them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> > > they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> > > exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> > > the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> > > This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> > > Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> > > mud on it.
> >
> >
http://www.----------.com/jeeporig.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> joshua,
> best example i can think of to demonstrate the difference is this. try
> pushing your jeep on a flat hard surface. even at 3500 pounds its an easy
> push. now try pushing your jeep after you got it stuck. whats that, you
> cant move it? it _still_ only weighs 3500 pounds.....the winch feels the
> same difference.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:aBWdnU2zy8hTH8uiXTWJiw@comcast.com...
> > You don't read very well, do you? Either that, or you were too busy
> > thinking of how you were going to phrase your next argument, you didn't
> hear
> > anything anyone here said.
> > A winch rated at 4500 lbs. is rated at that pull over a flat surface with
> 1
> > or 2 turns on the spool. It's not rated to pull 3000-3500 lbs of jeep up
> > out of four one-foot holes in the mud.
> > Think in terms of the hole your tire is in. It is shaped like the tire.
> It
> > is about a foot deep (at best) and the tire has to climb out of it in
> order
> > to get onto flatter ground. The climb is probably as much as 30 to 45
> > degrees (sometimes more). The tire is encased in the mud with an
> air-tight
> > seal. In order for the tire to get out, you're pulling a partial vacuum
> > under it until you break the seal and the air is sucked in.
> > Read our collective lips: Your winch is too small!! If you want to put a
> > winch on your TJ, it should be 8000 lb. rating or higher. (You *might* be
> > able to get away with 6000 lbs., but not in axle-deep mud)
> >
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > > > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > > > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been
> able
> > to
> > > > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
> > >
> > > That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> > > or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> > > What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> > > 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
> > >
> > > This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> > > was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> > > jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> > > heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
> > >
> > > (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> > > of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> > > pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> > > in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> > > myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> > > biceps!!)
> > >
> > > BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> > > them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> > > they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> > > exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> > > the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> > > This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> > > Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> > > mud on it.
> >
> >
09-03-2003, 11:09 PM
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Re: Superwinch <> junk
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> What, you can't lift yours out?
no, the lockers make it to heavy. ;-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
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> What, you can't lift yours out?
no, the lockers make it to heavy. ;-)
--
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http://7SlotGrille.com
09-03-2003, 11:09 PM
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Re: Superwinch <> junk
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> What, you can't lift yours out?
no, the lockers make it to heavy. ;-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:3F56AA9C.7A2D5041@***.net...
> What, you can't lift yours out?
no, the lockers make it to heavy. ;-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
09-04-2003, 04:03 AM
#44
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Re: Superwinch = junk
A 2700 lb winch isn't going to do it. You need an 8000 lb winch MINIMUM.
Super winch isn't junk, although I prefer Warn.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
Super winch isn't junk, although I prefer Warn.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
09-04-2003, 04:03 AM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
A 2700 lb winch isn't going to do it. You need an 8000 lb winch MINIMUM.
Super winch isn't junk, although I prefer Warn.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
Super winch isn't junk, although I prefer Warn.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
09-04-2003, 04:08 AM
#46
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Idiot.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been able
to
> > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
>
> That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
>
> This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
>
> (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> biceps!!)
>
> BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> mud on it.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been able
to
> > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
>
> That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
>
> This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
>
> (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> biceps!!)
>
> BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> mud on it.
09-04-2003, 04:08 AM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Idiot.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been able
to
> > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
>
> That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
>
> This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
>
> (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> biceps!!)
>
> BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> mud on it.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been able
to
> > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
>
> That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
>
> This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
>
> (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> biceps!!)
>
> BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> mud on it.
09-04-2003, 08:56 AM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Well, while that may be fairly accurate, it's not very helpful...
"Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Idiot.
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been
able
> to
> > > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
> >
> > That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> > or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> > What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> > 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
> >
> > This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> > was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> > jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> > heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
> >
> > (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> > of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> > pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> > in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> > myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> > biceps!!)
> >
> > BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> > them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> > they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> > exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> > the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> > This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> > Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> > mud on it.
>
>
"Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Idiot.
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been
able
> to
> > > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
> >
> > That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> > or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> > What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> > 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
> >
> > This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> > was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> > jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> > heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
> >
> > (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> > of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> > pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> > in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> > myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> > biceps!!)
> >
> > BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> > them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> > they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> > exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> > the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> > This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> > Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> > mud on it.
>
>
09-04-2003, 08:56 AM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Well, while that may be fairly accurate, it's not very helpful...
"Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Idiot.
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been
able
> to
> > > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
> >
> > That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> > or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> > What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> > 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
> >
> > This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> > was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> > jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> > heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
> >
> > (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> > of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> > pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> > in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> > myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> > biceps!!)
> >
> > BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> > them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> > they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> > exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> > the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> > This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> > Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> > mud on it.
>
>
"Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Idiot.
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309031349.7de95559@posting.google.c om...
> > > You can't expect *anyone's* 4500 lb. winch to pull a TJ out
> > > of axle-deep mud! 8000-10000 lb. winches would probably have been
able
> to
> > > do it, but would have had to work pretty hard at it.
> >
> > That's ridiculous. A 4500 lb winch ought to be able to pull 4500 lbs
> > or it isn't a 4500 lb winch. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
> > What are you going to tell me next, my 2.5L engine is actually only
> > 1.3L and the rest refers to the size of the engine compartment?
> >
> > This is a stock jeep, darn near its factory curb weight. And no one
> > was sitting in the vehicle. Probably the only extra weight on this
> > jeep is the winch itself!! So I was well below 4500lbs. Mud might be
> > heavy but there is no way that there wer 1800 lbs of it on the jeep!
> >
> > (Not to mention, the winch wasn't even having to pull the full weight
> > of the jeep, because I was trying to winch mostly horizontally, not
> > pull the 2700 lb jeep straight up into the air! Shoot, put the jeep
> > in neutral on a flat hard surface and I can push it into motion
> > myself, and I guarantee I haven't got 2700lbs of hauling power in my
> > biceps!!)
> >
> > BTW I am not familiar with ****** blocks. I found some pictures of
> > them on the internet after reading these replies so now I know what
> > they are and what they look like, but I'm having trouble picturing
> > exactly how they would work or how they could double the strength of
> > the winch. Could someone explain this to me or refer me to a photo?
> > This might be the route I have to take. It seems the jerks at
> > Quadratec balk at taking a refund on a product with a little bit of
> > mud on it.
>
>
09-04-2003, 09:00 AM
#50
Guest
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Re: Superwinch <> junk
Heck, it's four-wheel-drive! It shouldn't *get* stuck! Let's complain to
the dealer!
;-)
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F56AA9C.7A2D5041@***.net...
> > What, you can't lift yours out?
>
> no, the lockers make it to heavy. ;-)
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
the dealer!
;-)
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F56AA9C.7A2D5041@***.net...
> > What, you can't lift yours out?
>
> no, the lockers make it to heavy. ;-)
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>