Superwinch = junk
09-04-2003, 09:00 AM
#51
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Re: Superwinch <> junk
Heck, it's four-wheel-drive! It shouldn't *get* stuck! Let's complain to
the dealer!
;-)
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> > What, you can't lift yours out?
>
> no, the lockers make it to heavy. ;-)
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
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>
>
the dealer!
;-)
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F56AA9C.7A2D5041@***.net...
> > What, you can't lift yours out?
>
> no, the lockers make it to heavy. ;-)
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
09-04-2003, 09:57 AM
#52
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Can't beleive know one has used the analogy of getting your boot stuck in
the mud when you were a kid, your leg is quite capable of lift up a boot,
but add in the suction, (vacum) of the sticky semi liquid and off comes your
boot. Don't know what the force required would be for that boot, but I would
imagine it would be 5 - 10 times the regular lift. And do pay attention to
the drop in winch abbilty with every wrap of line, ( jeep 101)
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
the mud when you were a kid, your leg is quite capable of lift up a boot,
but add in the suction, (vacum) of the sticky semi liquid and off comes your
boot. Don't know what the force required would be for that boot, but I would
imagine it would be 5 - 10 times the regular lift. And do pay attention to
the drop in winch abbilty with every wrap of line, ( jeep 101)
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
09-04-2003, 09:57 AM
#53
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Can't beleive know one has used the analogy of getting your boot stuck in
the mud when you were a kid, your leg is quite capable of lift up a boot,
but add in the suction, (vacum) of the sticky semi liquid and off comes your
boot. Don't know what the force required would be for that boot, but I would
imagine it would be 5 - 10 times the regular lift. And do pay attention to
the drop in winch abbilty with every wrap of line, ( jeep 101)
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
the mud when you were a kid, your leg is quite capable of lift up a boot,
but add in the suction, (vacum) of the sticky semi liquid and off comes your
boot. Don't know what the force required would be for that boot, but I would
imagine it would be 5 - 10 times the regular lift. And do pay attention to
the drop in winch abbilty with every wrap of line, ( jeep 101)
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
09-04-2003, 10:02 AM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
I have finally seen the ultimate NG post.
Joshua Nelson wrote:
> "Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Idiot.
>>
>
>
> I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.
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Joshua Nelson wrote:
> "Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Idiot.
>>
>
>
> I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
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09-04-2003, 10:02 AM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
I have finally seen the ultimate NG post.
Joshua Nelson wrote:
> "Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Idiot.
>>
>
>
> I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Joshua Nelson wrote:
> "Jeepaholic" <jeepahoilcs@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Idiot.
>>
>
>
> I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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09-04-2003, 10:22 AM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Joshua, I've been observing this for a while and people became hostile only
after you refused to believe what people were trying to tell you about why
your undersized winch didn't work when you complained about it.
Jerry
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"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
after you refused to believe what people were trying to tell you about why
your undersized winch didn't work when you complained about it.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
09-04-2003, 10:22 AM
#59
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Joshua, I've been observing this for a while and people became hostile only
after you refused to believe what people were trying to tell you about why
your undersized winch didn't work when you complained about it.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
after you refused to believe what people were trying to tell you about why
your undersized winch didn't work when you complained about it.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
09-04-2003, 11:02 AM
#60
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Re: Superwinch = junk
"I appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm not
as experienced as they are"
I think it was the way you approached this...
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
as experienced as they are"
I think it was the way you approached this...
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309040606.19600208@posting.google.c om...
> rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx (Robert Bills) wrote:
>
> > Also, you need a
> > ****** block, tree strap, tow strap, shackles and other accessories to
ensure
> > that you have the right tools when the need arises. The winching
articles
> > should lead you in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> > http://www.RobertBills.com
>
>
> Thanks. This is helpful. I am trying to get into this hobby and I
> appreciate it when folks don't treat me like a moron just because I'm
> not as experienced as they are. It is thoughtful replies like yours
> that make this forum worth returning to in spite of the hostility.
>
> Looking at the articles I still didn't see much explanation for what
> some of these accessories are (****** block, shackles, etc.) Would
> appreciate any reference explaining how they work with a winch.
>
> Thanks again.
