Superwinch = junk
#221
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Re: Superwinch <> junk
In article <b102b6e4.0309090620.2c3a3b34@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>My point was that in certain situations,
>lift is more important than traction.
In certain situations, apples are better than oranges.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>My point was that in certain situations,
>lift is more important than traction.
In certain situations, apples are better than oranges.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
#222
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Re: Superwinch <> junk
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> In article <b102b6e4.0309090620.2c3a3b34@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
> (Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
>> My point was that in certain situations,
>> lift is more important than traction.
>
> In certain situations, apples are better than oranges.
like pie
> In article <b102b6e4.0309090620.2c3a3b34@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
> (Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
>> My point was that in certain situations,
>> lift is more important than traction.
>
> In certain situations, apples are better than oranges.
like pie
#223
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Re: Superwinch <> junk
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> In article <b102b6e4.0309090620.2c3a3b34@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
> (Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
>> My point was that in certain situations,
>> lift is more important than traction.
>
> In certain situations, apples are better than oranges.
like pie
> In article <b102b6e4.0309090620.2c3a3b34@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
> (Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
>> My point was that in certain situations,
>> lift is more important than traction.
>
> In certain situations, apples are better than oranges.
like pie
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Re: Superwinch <> junk
Joshua Nelson proved that he is not just an idiot, but a blithering one,
with:
> My goodness, I seem to have touched a delicate nerve.
Yes. My -------- detector.
> Or maybe you
> just have short man syndrome in general? Let me guess, do you stand
> about 5'6 or shorter?
I see you're putting your ---- vocalization abilities into overdrive.
>
>
> Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message news:<bjh87u$qta$0@pita.alt.net>...
>
>>Joshua Nelson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Four wheel drive doesn't keep you from getting stuck. It just lets you get
>>>>stuck in *much* worse places."
>>>>
>>>>(The same can be said for lockers, big tires, etc.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You must be a "mudder." I can see where this would be the case with
>>>mud. But with hill climbing its much less of a factor where the
>>>problem is not "sticking" but clearance.
>>
>>Really? Some of the steepest, toughest hills I've mastered had no
>>rocks, but plenty of loose dirt.
>>
>>
>>>For most rock climbing I
>>>would rather have a 2wd Cherokee sitting on 44 inch tires than a 4wd
>>>TJ with lockers on stock tires.
>>
>>I wonder what the hell I got those axles, lockers, and wheels for my
>>Jeep for, then.
>>
>>Attention rock crawlers! You no longer need all that expensive stuff, or
>>even 4 wheel drive!
>>
>>Josh, what brand of 44 inch tires do you recommend? I want the benefit
>>of your vast experience.
>>
>> The only time you're going to get
>>
>>>stuck is when your fuel tank hangs up on a big rock!
>>
>>Do you have a special kind of differential or axle that sits higher than
>>the fuel tank?
>>
>>Also, how long have you had this special talent that allows you to emit
>>vocalizations from your lower intestine?
with:
> My goodness, I seem to have touched a delicate nerve.
Yes. My -------- detector.
> Or maybe you
> just have short man syndrome in general? Let me guess, do you stand
> about 5'6 or shorter?
I see you're putting your ---- vocalization abilities into overdrive.
>
>
> Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message news:<bjh87u$qta$0@pita.alt.net>...
>
>>Joshua Nelson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Four wheel drive doesn't keep you from getting stuck. It just lets you get
>>>>stuck in *much* worse places."
>>>>
>>>>(The same can be said for lockers, big tires, etc.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You must be a "mudder." I can see where this would be the case with
>>>mud. But with hill climbing its much less of a factor where the
>>>problem is not "sticking" but clearance.
>>
>>Really? Some of the steepest, toughest hills I've mastered had no
>>rocks, but plenty of loose dirt.
>>
>>
>>>For most rock climbing I
>>>would rather have a 2wd Cherokee sitting on 44 inch tires than a 4wd
>>>TJ with lockers on stock tires.
>>
>>I wonder what the hell I got those axles, lockers, and wheels for my
>>Jeep for, then.
>>
>>Attention rock crawlers! You no longer need all that expensive stuff, or
>>even 4 wheel drive!
>>
>>Josh, what brand of 44 inch tires do you recommend? I want the benefit
>>of your vast experience.
>>
>> The only time you're going to get
>>
>>>stuck is when your fuel tank hangs up on a big rock!
>>
>>Do you have a special kind of differential or axle that sits higher than
>>the fuel tank?
>>
>>Also, how long have you had this special talent that allows you to emit
>>vocalizations from your lower intestine?
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Re: Superwinch <> junk
Joshua Nelson proved that he is not just an idiot, but a blithering one,
with:
> My goodness, I seem to have touched a delicate nerve.
Yes. My -------- detector.
> Or maybe you
> just have short man syndrome in general? Let me guess, do you stand
> about 5'6 or shorter?
I see you're putting your ---- vocalization abilities into overdrive.
>
>
> Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message news:<bjh87u$qta$0@pita.alt.net>...
>
>>Joshua Nelson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Four wheel drive doesn't keep you from getting stuck. It just lets you get
>>>>stuck in *much* worse places."
>>>>
>>>>(The same can be said for lockers, big tires, etc.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You must be a "mudder." I can see where this would be the case with
>>>mud. But with hill climbing its much less of a factor where the
>>>problem is not "sticking" but clearance.
>>
>>Really? Some of the steepest, toughest hills I've mastered had no
>>rocks, but plenty of loose dirt.
>>
>>
>>>For most rock climbing I
>>>would rather have a 2wd Cherokee sitting on 44 inch tires than a 4wd
>>>TJ with lockers on stock tires.
>>
>>I wonder what the hell I got those axles, lockers, and wheels for my
>>Jeep for, then.
>>
>>Attention rock crawlers! You no longer need all that expensive stuff, or
>>even 4 wheel drive!
>>
>>Josh, what brand of 44 inch tires do you recommend? I want the benefit
>>of your vast experience.
>>
>> The only time you're going to get
>>
>>>stuck is when your fuel tank hangs up on a big rock!
>>
>>Do you have a special kind of differential or axle that sits higher than
>>the fuel tank?
>>
>>Also, how long have you had this special talent that allows you to emit
>>vocalizations from your lower intestine?
with:
> My goodness, I seem to have touched a delicate nerve.
Yes. My -------- detector.
> Or maybe you
> just have short man syndrome in general? Let me guess, do you stand
> about 5'6 or shorter?
I see you're putting your ---- vocalization abilities into overdrive.
>
>
> Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message news:<bjh87u$qta$0@pita.alt.net>...
>
>>Joshua Nelson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Four wheel drive doesn't keep you from getting stuck. It just lets you get
>>>>stuck in *much* worse places."
>>>>
>>>>(The same can be said for lockers, big tires, etc.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You must be a "mudder." I can see where this would be the case with
>>>mud. But with hill climbing its much less of a factor where the
>>>problem is not "sticking" but clearance.
>>
>>Really? Some of the steepest, toughest hills I've mastered had no
>>rocks, but plenty of loose dirt.
>>
>>
>>>For most rock climbing I
>>>would rather have a 2wd Cherokee sitting on 44 inch tires than a 4wd
>>>TJ with lockers on stock tires.
>>
>>I wonder what the hell I got those axles, lockers, and wheels for my
>>Jeep for, then.
>>
>>Attention rock crawlers! You no longer need all that expensive stuff, or
>>even 4 wheel drive!
>>
>>Josh, what brand of 44 inch tires do you recommend? I want the benefit
>>of your vast experience.
>>
>> The only time you're going to get
>>
>>>stuck is when your fuel tank hangs up on a big rock!
>>
>>Do you have a special kind of differential or axle that sits higher than
>>the fuel tank?
>>
>>Also, how long have you had this special talent that allows you to emit
>>vocalizations from your lower intestine?
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>>Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put something
>>over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why risk the
>>damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
>>
>
>
>
> Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
> feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
> Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
> rolls of material just for this contingency.
Get cracking, then.
>>Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put something
>>over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why risk the
>>damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
>>
>
>
>
> Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
> feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
> Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
> rolls of material just for this contingency.
Get cracking, then.
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>>Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put something
>>over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why risk the
>>damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
>>
>
>
>
> Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
> feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
> Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
> rolls of material just for this contingency.
Get cracking, then.
>>Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put something
>>over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why risk the
>>damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
>>
>
>
>
> Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
> feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
> Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
> rolls of material just for this contingency.
Get cracking, then.
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Re: Superwinch = junk
I've seen pictures of broken tug/barge cables, too. Scary! Those things
are BIG!!
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-HPghNE8hGp2N@anon.none.net...
> On farm and oil field equipment pulls where there was any chance that
> the pull would even come close to stressing the winch/cable we always
> routed it through a spare tire. That had enough mass to not only damp
> the snake it would actually wrap the broken cable up enough to protect
> nearby equipment. Snapped cables in the oil patch were common enough
> that we all developed a healthy respect. Now for an awsome cable
> brake, look up some of the Navy videos of busted arresting cables on
> carriers...
>
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:38:32 UTC "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> wrote:
>
> > The point of the blanket is to apply a small downward force to the
broken
> > winch cable so that it flies low and hits the front of the winching
vehicle
> > as opposed to going through the windscreen and decapitating you. The
rope is
> > more likely to break at the end than in the middle; and more likely to
break
> > free from / pull clean off the bit the end is attached to. That said, I
too
> > have doubts as to effective the blanket would be; but its easy to do and
I
> > have no better ideas.
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0309091327.7853436@posting.google.co m...
> > : > Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put
> > something
> > : > over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why
risk
> > the
> > : > damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
> > : >
> > :
> > :
> > : Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
> > : feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
> > : Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
> > : rolls of material just for this contingency.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
are BIG!!
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-HPghNE8hGp2N@anon.none.net...
> On farm and oil field equipment pulls where there was any chance that
> the pull would even come close to stressing the winch/cable we always
> routed it through a spare tire. That had enough mass to not only damp
> the snake it would actually wrap the broken cable up enough to protect
> nearby equipment. Snapped cables in the oil patch were common enough
> that we all developed a healthy respect. Now for an awsome cable
> brake, look up some of the Navy videos of busted arresting cables on
> carriers...
>
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:38:32 UTC "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> wrote:
>
> > The point of the blanket is to apply a small downward force to the
broken
> > winch cable so that it flies low and hits the front of the winching
vehicle
> > as opposed to going through the windscreen and decapitating you. The
rope is
> > more likely to break at the end than in the middle; and more likely to
break
> > free from / pull clean off the bit the end is attached to. That said, I
too
> > have doubts as to effective the blanket would be; but its easy to do and
I
> > have no better ideas.
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0309091327.7853436@posting.google.co m...
> > : > Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put
> > something
> > : > over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why
risk
> > the
> > : > damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
> > : >
> > :
> > :
> > : Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
> > : feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
> > : Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
> > : rolls of material just for this contingency.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
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Re: Superwinch = junk
I've seen pictures of broken tug/barge cables, too. Scary! Those things
are BIG!!
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-HPghNE8hGp2N@anon.none.net...
> On farm and oil field equipment pulls where there was any chance that
> the pull would even come close to stressing the winch/cable we always
> routed it through a spare tire. That had enough mass to not only damp
> the snake it would actually wrap the broken cable up enough to protect
> nearby equipment. Snapped cables in the oil patch were common enough
> that we all developed a healthy respect. Now for an awsome cable
> brake, look up some of the Navy videos of busted arresting cables on
> carriers...
>
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:38:32 UTC "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> wrote:
>
> > The point of the blanket is to apply a small downward force to the
broken
> > winch cable so that it flies low and hits the front of the winching
vehicle
> > as opposed to going through the windscreen and decapitating you. The
rope is
> > more likely to break at the end than in the middle; and more likely to
break
> > free from / pull clean off the bit the end is attached to. That said, I
too
> > have doubts as to effective the blanket would be; but its easy to do and
I
> > have no better ideas.
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0309091327.7853436@posting.google.co m...
> > : > Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put
> > something
> > : > over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why
risk
> > the
> > : > damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
> > : >
> > :
> > :
> > : Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
> > : feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
> > : Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
> > : rolls of material just for this contingency.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
are BIG!!
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-HPghNE8hGp2N@anon.none.net...
> On farm and oil field equipment pulls where there was any chance that
> the pull would even come close to stressing the winch/cable we always
> routed it through a spare tire. That had enough mass to not only damp
> the snake it would actually wrap the broken cable up enough to protect
> nearby equipment. Snapped cables in the oil patch were common enough
> that we all developed a healthy respect. Now for an awsome cable
> brake, look up some of the Navy videos of busted arresting cables on
> carriers...
>
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:38:32 UTC "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> wrote:
>
> > The point of the blanket is to apply a small downward force to the
broken
> > winch cable so that it flies low and hits the front of the winching
vehicle
> > as opposed to going through the windscreen and decapitating you. The
rope is
> > more likely to break at the end than in the middle; and more likely to
break
> > free from / pull clean off the bit the end is attached to. That said, I
too
> > have doubts as to effective the blanket would be; but its easy to do and
I
> > have no better ideas.
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> >
> > "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:b102b6e4.0309091327.7853436@posting.google.co m...
> > : > Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put
> > something
> > : > over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why
risk
> > the
> > : > damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
> > : >
> > :
> > :
> > : Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
> > : feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
> > : Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
> > : rolls of material just for this contingency.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
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Re: Superwinch = junk
> >
> > Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
> > feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
> > Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
> > rolls of material just for this contingency.
>
> Get cracking, then.
You know, Cal, this is the internet and we can't see you - only what
you type. Thus, most people wouldn't have any idea that you have a
tiny ----- and are emibttered toward the world, if only the pent-up
hostility didn't ooze out of your every sentence.
Cheer up. Mathematically, half the population is below average.
> > Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
> > feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
> > Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
> > rolls of material just for this contingency.
>
> Get cracking, then.
You know, Cal, this is the internet and we can't see you - only what
you type. Thus, most people wouldn't have any idea that you have a
tiny ----- and are emibttered toward the world, if only the pent-up
hostility didn't ooze out of your every sentence.
Cheer up. Mathematically, half the population is below average.