Shackles
05-04-2004, 10:32 PM
#41
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Re: Shackles
I'm starting to think my shackle experment was a big mistake......
I'll drive it to work tomorrow and I might think about taking them off
tomorrow night. :(
On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:20:22 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> The mean reason that's so ingrained into me is as to just how fast
>we ruined the rear springs of the '57 and '58 in back ground by flipping
>their shackles: http://www.----------.com/billtbird1963.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
I'll drive it to work tomorrow and I might think about taking them off
tomorrow night. :(
On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:20:22 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> The mean reason that's so ingrained into me is as to just how fast
>we ruined the rear springs of the '57 and '58 in back ground by flipping
>their shackles: http://www.----------.com/billtbird1963.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
05-04-2004, 10:38 PM
#42
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Re: Shackles
Leverage is very basic physics. You may understand the theory of a
torque wrench.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Roy J wrote:
>
> Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
> Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
> look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
>
> My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
> as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
> have the center brace.
torque wrench.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Roy J wrote:
>
> Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
> Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
> look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
>
> My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
> as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
> have the center brace.
05-04-2004, 10:38 PM
#43
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Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Leverage is very basic physics. You may understand the theory of a
torque wrench.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Roy J wrote:
>
> Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
> Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
> look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
>
> My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
> as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
> have the center brace.
torque wrench.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Roy J wrote:
>
> Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
> Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
> look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
>
> My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
> as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
> have the center brace.
05-04-2004, 10:38 PM
#44
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Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Leverage is very basic physics. You may understand the theory of a
torque wrench.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Roy J wrote:
>
> Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
> Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
> look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
>
> My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
> as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
> have the center brace.
torque wrench.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Roy J wrote:
>
> Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
> Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
> look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
>
> My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
> as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
> have the center brace.
05-04-2004, 10:38 PM
#45
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Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Leverage is very basic physics. You may understand the theory of a
torque wrench.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Roy J wrote:
>
> Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
> Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
> look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
>
> My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
> as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
> have the center brace.
torque wrench.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Roy J wrote:
>
> Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
> Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
> look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
>
> My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
> as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
> have the center brace.
05-04-2004, 10:44 PM
#46
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Re: Shackles
Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
05-04-2004, 10:44 PM
#47
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Re: Shackles
Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
05-04-2004, 10:44 PM
#48
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Re: Shackles
Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
05-04-2004, 10:44 PM
#49
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Re: Shackles
Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeepster wrote:
>
> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
05-04-2004, 11:02 PM
#50
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Re: Shackles
The pivot point is the shackle.
The arch is designed for so much travel at the pivot point.
Change the length of travel at the pivot and the springs can straighten
out too much which destroys the arch pretty fast.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Roy J wrote:
>
> Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
> Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
> look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
>
> My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
> as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
> have the center brace.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
> > and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeepster wrote:
> >
> >>I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> >>has. I have a question ........
> >>
> >>Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> >>problems?
> >>
> >>I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> >>in them.
The arch is designed for so much travel at the pivot point.
Change the length of travel at the pivot and the springs can straighten
out too much which destroys the arch pretty fast.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Roy J wrote:
>
> Tell me one more time why longer shackles affects the springs?
> Wher is this "leverage" coming from???? The springs on the pix
> look just like the ones on my Jeep with stock shackles.
>
> My beef with the longer shackles is the change in caster as well
> as the sideways flop that tends to happen even if the shackles
> have the center brace.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
> > and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeepster wrote:
> >
> >>I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> >>has. I have a question ........
> >>
> >>Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> >>problems?
> >>
> >>I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> >>in them.