Shackles
#121
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Re: Shackles
It will settle down as the suspension flexes.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
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> I took the shackles off and put the original shackles back on, the
> funny thing is the front end sits 1" higher than it did before.
> ( I measured 19" to the bottom of the bumper before I started and now
> it is 20")
>
> On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:44:08 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
> >stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Jeepster wrote:
> >>
> >> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
> >>
> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
>
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:u66j90l58upommnv5fb5jhp738u2k7e08l@4ax.com...
> I took the shackles off and put the original shackles back on, the
> funny thing is the front end sits 1" higher than it did before.
> ( I measured 19" to the bottom of the bumper before I started and now
> it is 20")
>
> On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:44:08 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
> >stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Jeepster wrote:
> >>
> >> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
> >>
> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
>
#122
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Re: Shackles
Yes it settled after a bit of a drive around the block. I plan on
keeping the beefed up shackles but I will be reducing the length and
will of course redrill them to be of stock length from bolt hole to
bolt hole.
Thanks again for all the input.
On Thu, 6 May 2004 12:40:12 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>It will settle down as the suspension flexes.
>
>
>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:u66j90l58upommnv5fb5jhp738u2k7e08l@4ax.com.. .
>> I took the shackles off and put the original shackles back on, the
>> funny thing is the front end sits 1" higher than it did before.
>> ( I measured 19" to the bottom of the bumper before I started and now
>> it is 20")
>>
>> On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:44:08 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
>> >stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>> >>
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
>>
>
keeping the beefed up shackles but I will be reducing the length and
will of course redrill them to be of stock length from bolt hole to
bolt hole.
Thanks again for all the input.
On Thu, 6 May 2004 12:40:12 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>It will settle down as the suspension flexes.
>
>
>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:u66j90l58upommnv5fb5jhp738u2k7e08l@4ax.com.. .
>> I took the shackles off and put the original shackles back on, the
>> funny thing is the front end sits 1" higher than it did before.
>> ( I measured 19" to the bottom of the bumper before I started and now
>> it is 20")
>>
>> On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:44:08 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
>> >stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>> >>
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
>>
>
#123
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Re: Shackles
Yes it settled after a bit of a drive around the block. I plan on
keeping the beefed up shackles but I will be reducing the length and
will of course redrill them to be of stock length from bolt hole to
bolt hole.
Thanks again for all the input.
On Thu, 6 May 2004 12:40:12 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>It will settle down as the suspension flexes.
>
>
>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:u66j90l58upommnv5fb5jhp738u2k7e08l@4ax.com.. .
>> I took the shackles off and put the original shackles back on, the
>> funny thing is the front end sits 1" higher than it did before.
>> ( I measured 19" to the bottom of the bumper before I started and now
>> it is 20")
>>
>> On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:44:08 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
>> >stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>> >>
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
>>
>
keeping the beefed up shackles but I will be reducing the length and
will of course redrill them to be of stock length from bolt hole to
bolt hole.
Thanks again for all the input.
On Thu, 6 May 2004 12:40:12 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>It will settle down as the suspension flexes.
>
>
>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:u66j90l58upommnv5fb5jhp738u2k7e08l@4ax.com.. .
>> I took the shackles off and put the original shackles back on, the
>> funny thing is the front end sits 1" higher than it did before.
>> ( I measured 19" to the bottom of the bumper before I started and now
>> it is 20")
>>
>> On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:44:08 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
>> >stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>> >>
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
>>
>
#124
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Re: Shackles
Yes it settled after a bit of a drive around the block. I plan on
keeping the beefed up shackles but I will be reducing the length and
will of course redrill them to be of stock length from bolt hole to
bolt hole.
Thanks again for all the input.
On Thu, 6 May 2004 12:40:12 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>It will settle down as the suspension flexes.
>
>
>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:u66j90l58upommnv5fb5jhp738u2k7e08l@4ax.com.. .
>> I took the shackles off and put the original shackles back on, the
>> funny thing is the front end sits 1" higher than it did before.
>> ( I measured 19" to the bottom of the bumper before I started and now
>> it is 20")
>>
>> On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:44:08 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
>> >stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>> >>
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
>>
>
keeping the beefed up shackles but I will be reducing the length and
will of course redrill them to be of stock length from bolt hole to
bolt hole.
Thanks again for all the input.
On Thu, 6 May 2004 12:40:12 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>It will settle down as the suspension flexes.
>
>
>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:u66j90l58upommnv5fb5jhp738u2k7e08l@4ax.com.. .
>> I took the shackles off and put the original shackles back on, the
>> funny thing is the front end sits 1" higher than it did before.
>> ( I measured 19" to the bottom of the bumper before I started and now
>> it is 20")
>>
>> On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:44:08 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
>> >stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>> >>
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
>>
>
#125
Guest
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Re: Shackles
Yes it settled after a bit of a drive around the block. I plan on
keeping the beefed up shackles but I will be reducing the length and
will of course redrill them to be of stock length from bolt hole to
bolt hole.
Thanks again for all the input.
On Thu, 6 May 2004 12:40:12 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>It will settle down as the suspension flexes.
>
>
>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:u66j90l58upommnv5fb5jhp738u2k7e08l@4ax.com.. .
>> I took the shackles off and put the original shackles back on, the
>> funny thing is the front end sits 1" higher than it did before.
>> ( I measured 19" to the bottom of the bumper before I started and now
>> it is 20")
>>
>> On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:44:08 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
>> >stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>> >>
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
>>
>
keeping the beefed up shackles but I will be reducing the length and
will of course redrill them to be of stock length from bolt hole to
bolt hole.
Thanks again for all the input.
On Thu, 6 May 2004 12:40:12 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>It will settle down as the suspension flexes.
>
>
>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:u66j90l58upommnv5fb5jhp738u2k7e08l@4ax.com.. .
>> I took the shackles off and put the original shackles back on, the
>> funny thing is the front end sits 1" higher than it did before.
>> ( I measured 19" to the bottom of the bumper before I started and now
>> it is 20")
>>
>> On Tue, 04 May 2004 19:44:08 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Too late, notice how straight the springs are. Compare then to
>> >stock arc: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/beakl/jeepixpage.html
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Do these look like they would be beefy enough?
>> >>
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/
>>
>
#126
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Re: Shackles
Well, at least you didn't use the word 'torque' in your latest
explination! Progress is being made.
Putting the spring on the garage floor is not relevant, the
spring operates with a free swingling shackle on one end, not
with friction against the floor. Of course if your shackle eye is
frozen solid, you get a different answer.
The springs on a YJ have much less arch than a CJ, the entire
discussion is quite moot since the total length change in the
spring between factory stock normal ride and full bumper stop
compression is only half an inch or so. (The angle of the shakle
is always AWAY from the spring (overrun) not towards the spring
like you see on a CJ.
Cheers.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It would be so easy to make an experiment to show you with
> pictures, like place the one single leaf spring with the eyes on the
> floor and stand on the eyes and say that spring supports me four inches
> off the floor at both ends then bolt a lever hinge to each end hinged
> again in the middle then stand on it as if it were a frame and one
> exaggerated (longer) shackle then you would see my same weight would
> smash the spring to the floor. Very easy buy you're not worth going out
> the the garage. Maybe, take a course mechanical drafting may enlighten
> you with the relationship objects have with each other.
>
> Main Entry: 2torque
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Latin torquEre to twist
> 1 : a force that produces or tends to produce
> rotation or
> torsion <an automobile engine delivers torque to
> the drive
> shaft>; also : a measure of the effectiveness of
> such a force
> that consists of the product of the force and the
> perpendicular
> distance from the line of action of the force to
> the axis of
> rotation
> 2 : a turning or twisting force
explination! Progress is being made.
Putting the spring on the garage floor is not relevant, the
spring operates with a free swingling shackle on one end, not
with friction against the floor. Of course if your shackle eye is
frozen solid, you get a different answer.
The springs on a YJ have much less arch than a CJ, the entire
discussion is quite moot since the total length change in the
spring between factory stock normal ride and full bumper stop
compression is only half an inch or so. (The angle of the shakle
is always AWAY from the spring (overrun) not towards the spring
like you see on a CJ.
Cheers.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It would be so easy to make an experiment to show you with
> pictures, like place the one single leaf spring with the eyes on the
> floor and stand on the eyes and say that spring supports me four inches
> off the floor at both ends then bolt a lever hinge to each end hinged
> again in the middle then stand on it as if it were a frame and one
> exaggerated (longer) shackle then you would see my same weight would
> smash the spring to the floor. Very easy buy you're not worth going out
> the the garage. Maybe, take a course mechanical drafting may enlighten
> you with the relationship objects have with each other.
>
> Main Entry: 2torque
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Latin torquEre to twist
> 1 : a force that produces or tends to produce
> rotation or
> torsion <an automobile engine delivers torque to
> the drive
> shaft>; also : a measure of the effectiveness of
> such a force
> that consists of the product of the force and the
> perpendicular
> distance from the line of action of the force to
> the axis of
> rotation
> 2 : a turning or twisting force
#127
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Re: Shackles
Well, at least you didn't use the word 'torque' in your latest
explination! Progress is being made.
Putting the spring on the garage floor is not relevant, the
spring operates with a free swingling shackle on one end, not
with friction against the floor. Of course if your shackle eye is
frozen solid, you get a different answer.
The springs on a YJ have much less arch than a CJ, the entire
discussion is quite moot since the total length change in the
spring between factory stock normal ride and full bumper stop
compression is only half an inch or so. (The angle of the shakle
is always AWAY from the spring (overrun) not towards the spring
like you see on a CJ.
Cheers.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It would be so easy to make an experiment to show you with
> pictures, like place the one single leaf spring with the eyes on the
> floor and stand on the eyes and say that spring supports me four inches
> off the floor at both ends then bolt a lever hinge to each end hinged
> again in the middle then stand on it as if it were a frame and one
> exaggerated (longer) shackle then you would see my same weight would
> smash the spring to the floor. Very easy buy you're not worth going out
> the the garage. Maybe, take a course mechanical drafting may enlighten
> you with the relationship objects have with each other.
>
> Main Entry: 2torque
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Latin torquEre to twist
> 1 : a force that produces or tends to produce
> rotation or
> torsion <an automobile engine delivers torque to
> the drive
> shaft>; also : a measure of the effectiveness of
> such a force
> that consists of the product of the force and the
> perpendicular
> distance from the line of action of the force to
> the axis of
> rotation
> 2 : a turning or twisting force
explination! Progress is being made.
Putting the spring on the garage floor is not relevant, the
spring operates with a free swingling shackle on one end, not
with friction against the floor. Of course if your shackle eye is
frozen solid, you get a different answer.
The springs on a YJ have much less arch than a CJ, the entire
discussion is quite moot since the total length change in the
spring between factory stock normal ride and full bumper stop
compression is only half an inch or so. (The angle of the shakle
is always AWAY from the spring (overrun) not towards the spring
like you see on a CJ.
Cheers.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It would be so easy to make an experiment to show you with
> pictures, like place the one single leaf spring with the eyes on the
> floor and stand on the eyes and say that spring supports me four inches
> off the floor at both ends then bolt a lever hinge to each end hinged
> again in the middle then stand on it as if it were a frame and one
> exaggerated (longer) shackle then you would see my same weight would
> smash the spring to the floor. Very easy buy you're not worth going out
> the the garage. Maybe, take a course mechanical drafting may enlighten
> you with the relationship objects have with each other.
>
> Main Entry: 2torque
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Latin torquEre to twist
> 1 : a force that produces or tends to produce
> rotation or
> torsion <an automobile engine delivers torque to
> the drive
> shaft>; also : a measure of the effectiveness of
> such a force
> that consists of the product of the force and the
> perpendicular
> distance from the line of action of the force to
> the axis of
> rotation
> 2 : a turning or twisting force
#128
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Well, at least you didn't use the word 'torque' in your latest
explination! Progress is being made.
Putting the spring on the garage floor is not relevant, the
spring operates with a free swingling shackle on one end, not
with friction against the floor. Of course if your shackle eye is
frozen solid, you get a different answer.
The springs on a YJ have much less arch than a CJ, the entire
discussion is quite moot since the total length change in the
spring between factory stock normal ride and full bumper stop
compression is only half an inch or so. (The angle of the shakle
is always AWAY from the spring (overrun) not towards the spring
like you see on a CJ.
Cheers.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It would be so easy to make an experiment to show you with
> pictures, like place the one single leaf spring with the eyes on the
> floor and stand on the eyes and say that spring supports me four inches
> off the floor at both ends then bolt a lever hinge to each end hinged
> again in the middle then stand on it as if it were a frame and one
> exaggerated (longer) shackle then you would see my same weight would
> smash the spring to the floor. Very easy buy you're not worth going out
> the the garage. Maybe, take a course mechanical drafting may enlighten
> you with the relationship objects have with each other.
>
> Main Entry: 2torque
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Latin torquEre to twist
> 1 : a force that produces or tends to produce
> rotation or
> torsion <an automobile engine delivers torque to
> the drive
> shaft>; also : a measure of the effectiveness of
> such a force
> that consists of the product of the force and the
> perpendicular
> distance from the line of action of the force to
> the axis of
> rotation
> 2 : a turning or twisting force
explination! Progress is being made.
Putting the spring on the garage floor is not relevant, the
spring operates with a free swingling shackle on one end, not
with friction against the floor. Of course if your shackle eye is
frozen solid, you get a different answer.
The springs on a YJ have much less arch than a CJ, the entire
discussion is quite moot since the total length change in the
spring between factory stock normal ride and full bumper stop
compression is only half an inch or so. (The angle of the shakle
is always AWAY from the spring (overrun) not towards the spring
like you see on a CJ.
Cheers.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It would be so easy to make an experiment to show you with
> pictures, like place the one single leaf spring with the eyes on the
> floor and stand on the eyes and say that spring supports me four inches
> off the floor at both ends then bolt a lever hinge to each end hinged
> again in the middle then stand on it as if it were a frame and one
> exaggerated (longer) shackle then you would see my same weight would
> smash the spring to the floor. Very easy buy you're not worth going out
> the the garage. Maybe, take a course mechanical drafting may enlighten
> you with the relationship objects have with each other.
>
> Main Entry: 2torque
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Latin torquEre to twist
> 1 : a force that produces or tends to produce
> rotation or
> torsion <an automobile engine delivers torque to
> the drive
> shaft>; also : a measure of the effectiveness of
> such a force
> that consists of the product of the force and the
> perpendicular
> distance from the line of action of the force to
> the axis of
> rotation
> 2 : a turning or twisting force
#129
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Well, at least you didn't use the word 'torque' in your latest
explination! Progress is being made.
Putting the spring on the garage floor is not relevant, the
spring operates with a free swingling shackle on one end, not
with friction against the floor. Of course if your shackle eye is
frozen solid, you get a different answer.
The springs on a YJ have much less arch than a CJ, the entire
discussion is quite moot since the total length change in the
spring between factory stock normal ride and full bumper stop
compression is only half an inch or so. (The angle of the shakle
is always AWAY from the spring (overrun) not towards the spring
like you see on a CJ.
Cheers.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It would be so easy to make an experiment to show you with
> pictures, like place the one single leaf spring with the eyes on the
> floor and stand on the eyes and say that spring supports me four inches
> off the floor at both ends then bolt a lever hinge to each end hinged
> again in the middle then stand on it as if it were a frame and one
> exaggerated (longer) shackle then you would see my same weight would
> smash the spring to the floor. Very easy buy you're not worth going out
> the the garage. Maybe, take a course mechanical drafting may enlighten
> you with the relationship objects have with each other.
>
> Main Entry: 2torque
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Latin torquEre to twist
> 1 : a force that produces or tends to produce
> rotation or
> torsion <an automobile engine delivers torque to
> the drive
> shaft>; also : a measure of the effectiveness of
> such a force
> that consists of the product of the force and the
> perpendicular
> distance from the line of action of the force to
> the axis of
> rotation
> 2 : a turning or twisting force
explination! Progress is being made.
Putting the spring on the garage floor is not relevant, the
spring operates with a free swingling shackle on one end, not
with friction against the floor. Of course if your shackle eye is
frozen solid, you get a different answer.
The springs on a YJ have much less arch than a CJ, the entire
discussion is quite moot since the total length change in the
spring between factory stock normal ride and full bumper stop
compression is only half an inch or so. (The angle of the shakle
is always AWAY from the spring (overrun) not towards the spring
like you see on a CJ.
Cheers.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> It would be so easy to make an experiment to show you with
> pictures, like place the one single leaf spring with the eyes on the
> floor and stand on the eyes and say that spring supports me four inches
> off the floor at both ends then bolt a lever hinge to each end hinged
> again in the middle then stand on it as if it were a frame and one
> exaggerated (longer) shackle then you would see my same weight would
> smash the spring to the floor. Very easy buy you're not worth going out
> the the garage. Maybe, take a course mechanical drafting may enlighten
> you with the relationship objects have with each other.
>
> Main Entry: 2torque
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Latin torquEre to twist
> 1 : a force that produces or tends to produce
> rotation or
> torsion <an automobile engine delivers torque to
> the drive
> shaft>; also : a measure of the effectiveness of
> such a force
> that consists of the product of the force and the
> perpendicular
> distance from the line of action of the force to
> the axis of
> rotation
> 2 : a turning or twisting force
#130
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Re: Shackles
I give up.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Roy J wrote:
>
> Well, at least you didn't use the word 'torque' in your latest
> explination! Progress is being made.
>
> Putting the spring on the garage floor is not relevant, the
> spring operates with a free swingling shackle on one end, not
> with friction against the floor. Of course if your shackle eye is
> frozen solid, you get a different answer.
>
> The springs on a YJ have much less arch than a CJ, the entire
> discussion is quite moot since the total length change in the
> spring between factory stock normal ride and full bumper stop
> compression is only half an inch or so. (The angle of the shakle
> is always AWAY from the spring (overrun) not towards the spring
> like you see on a CJ.
>
> Cheers.
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Roy J wrote:
>
> Well, at least you didn't use the word 'torque' in your latest
> explination! Progress is being made.
>
> Putting the spring on the garage floor is not relevant, the
> spring operates with a free swingling shackle on one end, not
> with friction against the floor. Of course if your shackle eye is
> frozen solid, you get a different answer.
>
> The springs on a YJ have much less arch than a CJ, the entire
> discussion is quite moot since the total length change in the
> spring between factory stock normal ride and full bumper stop
> compression is only half an inch or so. (The angle of the shakle
> is always AWAY from the spring (overrun) not towards the spring
> like you see on a CJ.
>
> Cheers.