Shackles
#11
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Re: Shackles
I agree with Mike. I have RE Heavy Duty Spring Over Springs with the stock
shackles. They have withstood the toughest trails the East has to offer.
Stick with the stockers.
Daren
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40982BE0.A67087BE@sympatico.ca...
> Heh, I beefed up my shackles from the stock crap a CJ has to a YJ
> set.... LOL, seriously!
>
> Yes, a taller shackle will cause issues.
>
> It messes with the driveshaft u-joint angles and the camber in the front
> so the steering wheel won't return to center without help when cornering
> and will cause you to eat driveshaft u-joints up fast.
>
> If you can figure it out, or if the company that sells the longer
> shackles has any smarts, you can get wedges to put on the spring pads to
> get the tilt on the differential back where it should be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> > has. I have a question ........
> >
> > Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> > problems?
> >
> > I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> > in them.
shackles. They have withstood the toughest trails the East has to offer.
Stick with the stockers.
Daren
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40982BE0.A67087BE@sympatico.ca...
> Heh, I beefed up my shackles from the stock crap a CJ has to a YJ
> set.... LOL, seriously!
>
> Yes, a taller shackle will cause issues.
>
> It messes with the driveshaft u-joint angles and the camber in the front
> so the steering wheel won't return to center without help when cornering
> and will cause you to eat driveshaft u-joints up fast.
>
> If you can figure it out, or if the company that sells the longer
> shackles has any smarts, you can get wedges to put on the spring pads to
> get the tilt on the differential back where it should be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> > has. I have a question ........
> >
> > Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> > problems?
> >
> > I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> > in them.
#12
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Re: Shackles
I agree with Mike. I have RE Heavy Duty Spring Over Springs with the stock
shackles. They have withstood the toughest trails the East has to offer.
Stick with the stockers.
Daren
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40982BE0.A67087BE@sympatico.ca...
> Heh, I beefed up my shackles from the stock crap a CJ has to a YJ
> set.... LOL, seriously!
>
> Yes, a taller shackle will cause issues.
>
> It messes with the driveshaft u-joint angles and the camber in the front
> so the steering wheel won't return to center without help when cornering
> and will cause you to eat driveshaft u-joints up fast.
>
> If you can figure it out, or if the company that sells the longer
> shackles has any smarts, you can get wedges to put on the spring pads to
> get the tilt on the differential back where it should be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> > has. I have a question ........
> >
> > Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> > problems?
> >
> > I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> > in them.
shackles. They have withstood the toughest trails the East has to offer.
Stick with the stockers.
Daren
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40982BE0.A67087BE@sympatico.ca...
> Heh, I beefed up my shackles from the stock crap a CJ has to a YJ
> set.... LOL, seriously!
>
> Yes, a taller shackle will cause issues.
>
> It messes with the driveshaft u-joint angles and the camber in the front
> so the steering wheel won't return to center without help when cornering
> and will cause you to eat driveshaft u-joints up fast.
>
> If you can figure it out, or if the company that sells the longer
> shackles has any smarts, you can get wedges to put on the spring pads to
> get the tilt on the differential back where it should be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> > has. I have a question ........
> >
> > Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> > problems?
> >
> > I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> > in them.
#13
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Re: Shackles
I agree with Mike. I have RE Heavy Duty Spring Over Springs with the stock
shackles. They have withstood the toughest trails the East has to offer.
Stick with the stockers.
Daren
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40982BE0.A67087BE@sympatico.ca...
> Heh, I beefed up my shackles from the stock crap a CJ has to a YJ
> set.... LOL, seriously!
>
> Yes, a taller shackle will cause issues.
>
> It messes with the driveshaft u-joint angles and the camber in the front
> so the steering wheel won't return to center without help when cornering
> and will cause you to eat driveshaft u-joints up fast.
>
> If you can figure it out, or if the company that sells the longer
> shackles has any smarts, you can get wedges to put on the spring pads to
> get the tilt on the differential back where it should be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> > has. I have a question ........
> >
> > Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> > problems?
> >
> > I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> > in them.
shackles. They have withstood the toughest trails the East has to offer.
Stick with the stockers.
Daren
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40982BE0.A67087BE@sympatico.ca...
> Heh, I beefed up my shackles from the stock crap a CJ has to a YJ
> set.... LOL, seriously!
>
> Yes, a taller shackle will cause issues.
>
> It messes with the driveshaft u-joint angles and the camber in the front
> so the steering wheel won't return to center without help when cornering
> and will cause you to eat driveshaft u-joints up fast.
>
> If you can figure it out, or if the company that sells the longer
> shackles has any smarts, you can get wedges to put on the spring pads to
> get the tilt on the differential back where it should be.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> > has. I have a question ........
> >
> > Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> > problems?
> >
> > I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> > in them.
#14
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Re: Shackles
Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
On Tue, 04 May 2004 16:44:01 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
>and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>> has. I have a question ........
>>
>> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>> problems?
>>
>> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>> in them.
I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
On Tue, 04 May 2004 16:44:01 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
>and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>> has. I have a question ........
>>
>> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>> problems?
>>
>> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>> in them.
#15
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Re: Shackles
Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
On Tue, 04 May 2004 16:44:01 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
>and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>> has. I have a question ........
>>
>> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>> problems?
>>
>> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>> in them.
I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
On Tue, 04 May 2004 16:44:01 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
>and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>> has. I have a question ........
>>
>> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>> problems?
>>
>> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>> in them.
#16
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Re: Shackles
Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
On Tue, 04 May 2004 16:44:01 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
>and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>> has. I have a question ........
>>
>> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>> problems?
>>
>> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>> in them.
I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
On Tue, 04 May 2004 16:44:01 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
>and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>> has. I have a question ........
>>
>> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>> problems?
>>
>> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>> in them.
#17
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Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
Damn I should have done some research and waited for your replies....
I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
On Tue, 04 May 2004 16:44:01 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
>and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>> has. I have a question ........
>>
>> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>> problems?
>>
>> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>> in them.
I bought the shackles and just finished installing them. The springs
seem to have handled the 1 1/2" longer shackles and I haven't noticed
any driveline vibration yet, I will try them for a few days and if I
don't like what I feel off they come. They where only $85 Cdn so it
won't be a great amount of money out of my pocket.
On Tue, 04 May 2004 16:44:01 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> That little two inches is enough leverage to take the arc right out
>and bend it the other way: http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
>> has. I have a question ........
>>
>> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
>> problems?
>>
>> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
>> in them.
#18
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Re: Shackles
I am a firm believer that you want to keep your shackles as close as
possible to stock length. Now for the caveats.
The problems caused by too much Length can overcome with beefier parts. My
shackles are the ConFer heavy duty shackles. They are longer than stock, but
more than make up for the length by being much stronger. They are about 1
inch longer overall than stock, but the material is much heavier. Having
said that, you can buy them stronger, but way too long for the strength to
accomodate, and then you are going to have problems again. I would think
that if you stayed at an inch or two overall longer than stock, and went
with a product like the ConFer, you would be OK.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:0m9g90dmmiqq898k6b3grbr0tg2s2riro5@4ax.com...
> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> has. I have a question ........
>
> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> problems?
>
> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> in them.
possible to stock length. Now for the caveats.
The problems caused by too much Length can overcome with beefier parts. My
shackles are the ConFer heavy duty shackles. They are longer than stock, but
more than make up for the length by being much stronger. They are about 1
inch longer overall than stock, but the material is much heavier. Having
said that, you can buy them stronger, but way too long for the strength to
accomodate, and then you are going to have problems again. I would think
that if you stayed at an inch or two overall longer than stock, and went
with a product like the ConFer, you would be OK.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:0m9g90dmmiqq898k6b3grbr0tg2s2riro5@4ax.com...
> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> has. I have a question ........
>
> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> problems?
>
> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> in them.
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
I am a firm believer that you want to keep your shackles as close as
possible to stock length. Now for the caveats.
The problems caused by too much Length can overcome with beefier parts. My
shackles are the ConFer heavy duty shackles. They are longer than stock, but
more than make up for the length by being much stronger. They are about 1
inch longer overall than stock, but the material is much heavier. Having
said that, you can buy them stronger, but way too long for the strength to
accomodate, and then you are going to have problems again. I would think
that if you stayed at an inch or two overall longer than stock, and went
with a product like the ConFer, you would be OK.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:0m9g90dmmiqq898k6b3grbr0tg2s2riro5@4ax.com...
> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> has. I have a question ........
>
> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> problems?
>
> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> in them.
possible to stock length. Now for the caveats.
The problems caused by too much Length can overcome with beefier parts. My
shackles are the ConFer heavy duty shackles. They are longer than stock, but
more than make up for the length by being much stronger. They are about 1
inch longer overall than stock, but the material is much heavier. Having
said that, you can buy them stronger, but way too long for the strength to
accomodate, and then you are going to have problems again. I would think
that if you stayed at an inch or two overall longer than stock, and went
with a product like the ConFer, you would be OK.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:0m9g90dmmiqq898k6b3grbr0tg2s2riro5@4ax.com...
> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> has. I have a question ........
>
> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> problems?
>
> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> in them.
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Shackles
I am a firm believer that you want to keep your shackles as close as
possible to stock length. Now for the caveats.
The problems caused by too much Length can overcome with beefier parts. My
shackles are the ConFer heavy duty shackles. They are longer than stock, but
more than make up for the length by being much stronger. They are about 1
inch longer overall than stock, but the material is much heavier. Having
said that, you can buy them stronger, but way too long for the strength to
accomodate, and then you are going to have problems again. I would think
that if you stayed at an inch or two overall longer than stock, and went
with a product like the ConFer, you would be OK.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:0m9g90dmmiqq898k6b3grbr0tg2s2riro5@4ax.com...
> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> has. I have a question ........
>
> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> problems?
>
> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> in them.
possible to stock length. Now for the caveats.
The problems caused by too much Length can overcome with beefier parts. My
shackles are the ConFer heavy duty shackles. They are longer than stock, but
more than make up for the length by being much stronger. They are about 1
inch longer overall than stock, but the material is much heavier. Having
said that, you can buy them stronger, but way too long for the strength to
accomodate, and then you are going to have problems again. I would think
that if you stayed at an inch or two overall longer than stock, and went
with a product like the ConFer, you would be OK.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:0m9g90dmmiqq898k6b3grbr0tg2s2riro5@4ax.com...
> I was looking to beef up my shackles from the stock crap that my YJ
> has. I have a question ........
>
> Would going with a shackle that was 1" or 2" inches taller cause any
> problems?
>
> I have new springs on this Jeep so the springs have a lot of life left
> in them.