musing about fuel savings
#81
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Re: musing about fuel savings
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Where do you find a generator core?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
They are out there. Many old car shops have a pile of them. They are
common to industrial, ag, marine and aircraft applications and those
people kept them long after all cars went to alternators. When Spards
DDA in Reno, NV did their 53 series Detroit swaps in pickups as late as
the early 80s they were still putting generators in...
There are in fact more generator cores out there than there are people
who want generators. You just have to look where they are and not where
is convenient. Even if 99% of those ever made have been smelted for
scrap that leaves tens of thousands.
#82
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Re: musing about fuel savings
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Where do you find a generator core?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
They are out there. Many old car shops have a pile of them. They are
common to industrial, ag, marine and aircraft applications and those
people kept them long after all cars went to alternators. When Spards
DDA in Reno, NV did their 53 series Detroit swaps in pickups as late as
the early 80s they were still putting generators in...
There are in fact more generator cores out there than there are people
who want generators. You just have to look where they are and not where
is convenient. Even if 99% of those ever made have been smelted for
scrap that leaves tens of thousands.
#83
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Keith Black hard block Hemis use two spark plugs:
http://www.----------.com/temp/ScottKalitta.jpg Which costs between
fifty and a quarter of a million dollars. But not no other Chrysler Hemi
chamber ever had an extra plugged hole:
http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiChamber.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> At least the new Hemi has twin plugs. All the serious 426 race engines
> were twin plug but the street Hemis, joke they were, had a dummy plug
> in the second tapped hole. Would have added build cost for the second
> distributor. Adding twin plugs to other common Hemi head engines like
> the Harley Davidson Shovelhead, the BMW motorcycle flat twin, or even
> the Jaguar XK improves economy and cuts octane requirement of the fuel.
>
> Now if it only had a distributor hole...Even as it is EAA people are
> already talking about putting the New Hemi to more serious employment.
> After all a three blade constant speed Hartzell is the most efficient
> transmission we may buy...
http://www.----------.com/temp/ScottKalitta.jpg Which costs between
fifty and a quarter of a million dollars. But not no other Chrysler Hemi
chamber ever had an extra plugged hole:
http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiChamber.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> At least the new Hemi has twin plugs. All the serious 426 race engines
> were twin plug but the street Hemis, joke they were, had a dummy plug
> in the second tapped hole. Would have added build cost for the second
> distributor. Adding twin plugs to other common Hemi head engines like
> the Harley Davidson Shovelhead, the BMW motorcycle flat twin, or even
> the Jaguar XK improves economy and cuts octane requirement of the fuel.
>
> Now if it only had a distributor hole...Even as it is EAA people are
> already talking about putting the New Hemi to more serious employment.
> After all a three blade constant speed Hartzell is the most efficient
> transmission we may buy...
#84
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Keith Black hard block Hemis use two spark plugs:
http://www.----------.com/temp/ScottKalitta.jpg Which costs between
fifty and a quarter of a million dollars. But not no other Chrysler Hemi
chamber ever had an extra plugged hole:
http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiChamber.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> At least the new Hemi has twin plugs. All the serious 426 race engines
> were twin plug but the street Hemis, joke they were, had a dummy plug
> in the second tapped hole. Would have added build cost for the second
> distributor. Adding twin plugs to other common Hemi head engines like
> the Harley Davidson Shovelhead, the BMW motorcycle flat twin, or even
> the Jaguar XK improves economy and cuts octane requirement of the fuel.
>
> Now if it only had a distributor hole...Even as it is EAA people are
> already talking about putting the New Hemi to more serious employment.
> After all a three blade constant speed Hartzell is the most efficient
> transmission we may buy...
http://www.----------.com/temp/ScottKalitta.jpg Which costs between
fifty and a quarter of a million dollars. But not no other Chrysler Hemi
chamber ever had an extra plugged hole:
http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiChamber.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> At least the new Hemi has twin plugs. All the serious 426 race engines
> were twin plug but the street Hemis, joke they were, had a dummy plug
> in the second tapped hole. Would have added build cost for the second
> distributor. Adding twin plugs to other common Hemi head engines like
> the Harley Davidson Shovelhead, the BMW motorcycle flat twin, or even
> the Jaguar XK improves economy and cuts octane requirement of the fuel.
>
> Now if it only had a distributor hole...Even as it is EAA people are
> already talking about putting the New Hemi to more serious employment.
> After all a three blade constant speed Hartzell is the most efficient
> transmission we may buy...
#85
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Posts: n/a
Re: musing about fuel savings
Keith Black hard block Hemis use two spark plugs:
http://www.----------.com/temp/ScottKalitta.jpg Which costs between
fifty and a quarter of a million dollars. But not no other Chrysler Hemi
chamber ever had an extra plugged hole:
http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiChamber.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> At least the new Hemi has twin plugs. All the serious 426 race engines
> were twin plug but the street Hemis, joke they were, had a dummy plug
> in the second tapped hole. Would have added build cost for the second
> distributor. Adding twin plugs to other common Hemi head engines like
> the Harley Davidson Shovelhead, the BMW motorcycle flat twin, or even
> the Jaguar XK improves economy and cuts octane requirement of the fuel.
>
> Now if it only had a distributor hole...Even as it is EAA people are
> already talking about putting the New Hemi to more serious employment.
> After all a three blade constant speed Hartzell is the most efficient
> transmission we may buy...
http://www.----------.com/temp/ScottKalitta.jpg Which costs between
fifty and a quarter of a million dollars. But not no other Chrysler Hemi
chamber ever had an extra plugged hole:
http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiChamber.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> At least the new Hemi has twin plugs. All the serious 426 race engines
> were twin plug but the street Hemis, joke they were, had a dummy plug
> in the second tapped hole. Would have added build cost for the second
> distributor. Adding twin plugs to other common Hemi head engines like
> the Harley Davidson Shovelhead, the BMW motorcycle flat twin, or even
> the Jaguar XK improves economy and cuts octane requirement of the fuel.
>
> Now if it only had a distributor hole...Even as it is EAA people are
> already talking about putting the New Hemi to more serious employment.
> After all a three blade constant speed Hartzell is the most efficient
> transmission we may buy...
#86
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Well, most of us just threw them away, I remember as soon as Ford
went to and alternator in '65, so did my '57:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> They are out there. Many old car shops have a pile of them. They are
> common to industrial, ag, marine and aircraft applications and those
> people kept them long after all cars went to alternators. When Spards
> DDA in Reno, NV did their 53 series Detroit swaps in pickups as late as
> the early 80s they were still putting generators in...
>
> There are in fact more generator cores out there than there are people
> who want generators. You just have to look where they are and not where
> is convenient. Even if 99% of those ever made have been smelted for
> scrap that leaves tens of thousands.
went to and alternator in '65, so did my '57:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> They are out there. Many old car shops have a pile of them. They are
> common to industrial, ag, marine and aircraft applications and those
> people kept them long after all cars went to alternators. When Spards
> DDA in Reno, NV did their 53 series Detroit swaps in pickups as late as
> the early 80s they were still putting generators in...
>
> There are in fact more generator cores out there than there are people
> who want generators. You just have to look where they are and not where
> is convenient. Even if 99% of those ever made have been smelted for
> scrap that leaves tens of thousands.
#87
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Well, most of us just threw them away, I remember as soon as Ford
went to and alternator in '65, so did my '57:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> They are out there. Many old car shops have a pile of them. They are
> common to industrial, ag, marine and aircraft applications and those
> people kept them long after all cars went to alternators. When Spards
> DDA in Reno, NV did their 53 series Detroit swaps in pickups as late as
> the early 80s they were still putting generators in...
>
> There are in fact more generator cores out there than there are people
> who want generators. You just have to look where they are and not where
> is convenient. Even if 99% of those ever made have been smelted for
> scrap that leaves tens of thousands.
went to and alternator in '65, so did my '57:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> They are out there. Many old car shops have a pile of them. They are
> common to industrial, ag, marine and aircraft applications and those
> people kept them long after all cars went to alternators. When Spards
> DDA in Reno, NV did their 53 series Detroit swaps in pickups as late as
> the early 80s they were still putting generators in...
>
> There are in fact more generator cores out there than there are people
> who want generators. You just have to look where they are and not where
> is convenient. Even if 99% of those ever made have been smelted for
> scrap that leaves tens of thousands.
#88
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: musing about fuel savings
Well, most of us just threw them away, I remember as soon as Ford
went to and alternator in '65, so did my '57:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> They are out there. Many old car shops have a pile of them. They are
> common to industrial, ag, marine and aircraft applications and those
> people kept them long after all cars went to alternators. When Spards
> DDA in Reno, NV did their 53 series Detroit swaps in pickups as late as
> the early 80s they were still putting generators in...
>
> There are in fact more generator cores out there than there are people
> who want generators. You just have to look where they are and not where
> is convenient. Even if 99% of those ever made have been smelted for
> scrap that leaves tens of thousands.
went to and alternator in '65, so did my '57:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> They are out there. Many old car shops have a pile of them. They are
> common to industrial, ag, marine and aircraft applications and those
> people kept them long after all cars went to alternators. When Spards
> DDA in Reno, NV did their 53 series Detroit swaps in pickups as late as
> the early 80s they were still putting generators in...
>
> There are in fact more generator cores out there than there are people
> who want generators. You just have to look where they are and not where
> is convenient. Even if 99% of those ever made have been smelted for
> scrap that leaves tens of thousands.
#89
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Mike Romain proclaimed:
> Well ya know, if that would work in the slightest degree, one of the
> makers would have tried it eh.......
>
> Figure what the engine runs like with one plug wire off and just figure
> on that power hit once every 7 shots. Shutting one cylinder down on a
> conventional engine just doesn't work and Caddy proved shutting down
> cylinders works for ----.
Simply shutting down fuel and/or spark works best as a rev limiter,
not a mixed operation mode. Or at least the way it was implemented
on the cars I've ran into the rev limiter. You may get less handling
upset that way, but it isn't a particularly unnoticeable or pleasant
way of cutting power.
Suspect you'd need to pop valves to cut pumping losses to make it
at all worth while.
> Well ya know, if that would work in the slightest degree, one of the
> makers would have tried it eh.......
>
> Figure what the engine runs like with one plug wire off and just figure
> on that power hit once every 7 shots. Shutting one cylinder down on a
> conventional engine just doesn't work and Caddy proved shutting down
> cylinders works for ----.
Simply shutting down fuel and/or spark works best as a rev limiter,
not a mixed operation mode. Or at least the way it was implemented
on the cars I've ran into the rev limiter. You may get less handling
upset that way, but it isn't a particularly unnoticeable or pleasant
way of cutting power.
Suspect you'd need to pop valves to cut pumping losses to make it
at all worth while.
#90
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Mike Romain proclaimed:
> Well ya know, if that would work in the slightest degree, one of the
> makers would have tried it eh.......
>
> Figure what the engine runs like with one plug wire off and just figure
> on that power hit once every 7 shots. Shutting one cylinder down on a
> conventional engine just doesn't work and Caddy proved shutting down
> cylinders works for ----.
Simply shutting down fuel and/or spark works best as a rev limiter,
not a mixed operation mode. Or at least the way it was implemented
on the cars I've ran into the rev limiter. You may get less handling
upset that way, but it isn't a particularly unnoticeable or pleasant
way of cutting power.
Suspect you'd need to pop valves to cut pumping losses to make it
at all worth while.
> Well ya know, if that would work in the slightest degree, one of the
> makers would have tried it eh.......
>
> Figure what the engine runs like with one plug wire off and just figure
> on that power hit once every 7 shots. Shutting one cylinder down on a
> conventional engine just doesn't work and Caddy proved shutting down
> cylinders works for ----.
Simply shutting down fuel and/or spark works best as a rev limiter,
not a mixed operation mode. Or at least the way it was implemented
on the cars I've ran into the rev limiter. You may get less handling
upset that way, but it isn't a particularly unnoticeable or pleasant
way of cutting power.
Suspect you'd need to pop valves to cut pumping losses to make it
at all worth while.