Matt Osborn

Minnesota eliminated the inspections a few years back for exactly the
reasons you mention. I was amazed that a government would eliminate
part of itself.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 00:11:58 -0400, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
>The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
>exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
>In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
>on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
>come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
>any codes are stored.
>
>So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
>morning when you start the car.
>
>My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
>knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
>were tested tomorrow.
>
>The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
>that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
>exempt from the standards.
>
>The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
>drive through two ghetto areas to get there.



-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

Bret Ludwig

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> The regulator must charge the generator's field, just like the
> alternator's stator. Painless Wiring's diagram just jumps the battery
> wire to the ignition wire the other works the idiot light on this newer
> alternator with internal regulator:
> http://www.----------.com/LateAlternator.jpg

A generator will self-excite when it is spun fast enough due to
residual magnetism. Such as a car or truck being vigorously push
started or an aircraft engine unfeathered in flight. The aircraft
engine will light anyway because it has mags, but if all the other
electrics are dead the alternator won't come back on. The generator
will. The car with generator will put out enough juice to make the
ignition work, sometimes.

That's why WWII saboteurs used a car generator as a dynamite blasting
box. You hook up the wires and wrap a rope around the pulley like on an
outboard, and give it a good yank. No battery, and if captured a car
generator was a lot easier to explain than the old Wile E. Coyote Du
Pont box.

Bret Ludwig

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> The regulator must charge the generator's field, just like the
> alternator's stator. Painless Wiring's diagram just jumps the battery
> wire to the ignition wire the other works the idiot light on this newer
> alternator with internal regulator:
> http://www.----------.com/LateAlternator.jpg

A generator will self-excite when it is spun fast enough due to
residual magnetism. Such as a car or truck being vigorously push
started or an aircraft engine unfeathered in flight. The aircraft
engine will light anyway because it has mags, but if all the other
electrics are dead the alternator won't come back on. The generator
will. The car with generator will put out enough juice to make the
ignition work, sometimes.

That's why WWII saboteurs used a car generator as a dynamite blasting
box. You hook up the wires and wrap a rope around the pulley like on an
outboard, and give it a good yank. No battery, and if captured a car
generator was a lot easier to explain than the old Wile E. Coyote Du
Pont box.

Bret Ludwig

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> The regulator must charge the generator's field, just like the
> alternator's stator. Painless Wiring's diagram just jumps the battery
> wire to the ignition wire the other works the idiot light on this newer
> alternator with internal regulator:
> http://www.----------.com/LateAlternator.jpg

A generator will self-excite when it is spun fast enough due to
residual magnetism. Such as a car or truck being vigorously push
started or an aircraft engine unfeathered in flight. The aircraft
engine will light anyway because it has mags, but if all the other
electrics are dead the alternator won't come back on. The generator
will. The car with generator will put out enough juice to make the
ignition work, sometimes.

That's why WWII saboteurs used a car generator as a dynamite blasting
box. You hook up the wires and wrap a rope around the pulley like on an
outboard, and give it a good yank. No battery, and if captured a car
generator was a lot easier to explain than the old Wile E. Coyote Du
Pont box.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Nope. You may have seen a very old magneto, no newer than the
twenties, and Japanese small motorcycles, and lawnmowers.
http://www.----------.com/cj3wire.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> A generator will self-excite when it is spun fast enough due to
> residual magnetism. Such as a car or truck being vigorously push
> started or an aircraft engine unfeathered in flight. The aircraft
> engine will light anyway because it has mags, but if all the other
> electrics are dead the alternator won't come back on. The generator
> will. The car with generator will put out enough juice to make the
> ignition work, sometimes.
>
> That's why WWII saboteurs used a car generator as a dynamite blasting
> box. You hook up the wires and wrap a rope around the pulley like on an
> outboard, and give it a good yank. No battery, and if captured a car
> generator was a lot easier to explain than the old Wile E. Coyote Du
> Pont box.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Nope. You may have seen a very old magneto, no newer than the
twenties, and Japanese small motorcycles, and lawnmowers.
http://www.----------.com/cj3wire.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> A generator will self-excite when it is spun fast enough due to
> residual magnetism. Such as a car or truck being vigorously push
> started or an aircraft engine unfeathered in flight. The aircraft
> engine will light anyway because it has mags, but if all the other
> electrics are dead the alternator won't come back on. The generator
> will. The car with generator will put out enough juice to make the
> ignition work, sometimes.
>
> That's why WWII saboteurs used a car generator as a dynamite blasting
> box. You hook up the wires and wrap a rope around the pulley like on an
> outboard, and give it a good yank. No battery, and if captured a car
> generator was a lot easier to explain than the old Wile E. Coyote Du
> Pont box.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Nope. You may have seen a very old magneto, no newer than the
twenties, and Japanese small motorcycles, and lawnmowers.
http://www.----------.com/cj3wire.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> A generator will self-excite when it is spun fast enough due to
> residual magnetism. Such as a car or truck being vigorously push
> started or an aircraft engine unfeathered in flight. The aircraft
> engine will light anyway because it has mags, but if all the other
> electrics are dead the alternator won't come back on. The generator
> will. The car with generator will put out enough juice to make the
> ignition work, sometimes.
>
> That's why WWII saboteurs used a car generator as a dynamite blasting
> box. You hook up the wires and wrap a rope around the pulley like on an
> outboard, and give it a good yank. No battery, and if captured a car
> generator was a lot easier to explain than the old Wile E. Coyote Du
> Pont box.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

We have to go through the whole thing:
http://www.----------.com/smog.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
> The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
> exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
> In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
> on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
> come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
> any codes are stored.
>
> So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
> morning when you start the car.
>
> My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
> knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
> were tested tomorrow.
>
> The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
> that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
> exempt from the standards.
>
> The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
> drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

We have to go through the whole thing:
http://www.----------.com/smog.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
> The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
> exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
> In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
> on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
> come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
> any codes are stored.
>
> So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
> morning when you start the car.
>
> My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
> knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
> were tested tomorrow.
>
> The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
> that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
> exempt from the standards.
>
> The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
> drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

We have to go through the whole thing:
http://www.----------.com/smog.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
> The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
> exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
> In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
> on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
> come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
> any codes are stored.
>
> So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
> morning when you start the car.
>
> My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
> knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
> were tested tomorrow.
>
> The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
> that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
> exempt from the standards.
>
> The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
> drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.