musing about fuel savings
#141
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Seven five hundred make it a Used, used car:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/osreg.htm#BM2561
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Hopefully with the energy crisis and all they will take away the right
> of states to have more stringent laws than the Federal. Already, any
> California buyer may buy any Federal-legal car and import it into the
> state, IF it has more than a certain nomber of miles on it, as a used
> car.
>
> I hope your neighbors all buy CRD Libtys.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/osreg.htm#BM2561
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Hopefully with the energy crisis and all they will take away the right
> of states to have more stringent laws than the Federal. Already, any
> California buyer may buy any Federal-legal car and import it into the
> state, IF it has more than a certain nomber of miles on it, as a used
> car.
>
> I hope your neighbors all buy CRD Libtys.
#142
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Seven five hundred make it a Used, used car:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/osreg.htm#BM2561
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Hopefully with the energy crisis and all they will take away the right
> of states to have more stringent laws than the Federal. Already, any
> California buyer may buy any Federal-legal car and import it into the
> state, IF it has more than a certain nomber of miles on it, as a used
> car.
>
> I hope your neighbors all buy CRD Libtys.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/osreg.htm#BM2561
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Hopefully with the energy crisis and all they will take away the right
> of states to have more stringent laws than the Federal. Already, any
> California buyer may buy any Federal-legal car and import it into the
> state, IF it has more than a certain nomber of miles on it, as a used
> car.
>
> I hope your neighbors all buy CRD Libtys.
#143
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Re: musing about fuel savings
In message <6b71a$4337754b$d8449845$916@FUSE.NET>, "Billy Ray" wrote:
>I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
>The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
>exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
>In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
>on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
>come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
>any codes are stored.
They're looking for more than stored codes. They're checking to see if all of
the OBD II monitors have been run. If not, you don't pass.
>
>So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
>morning when you start the car.
>
>My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
>knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
>were tested tomorrow.
>
>The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
>that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
>exempt from the standards.
>
>The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
>drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
>I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
>The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
>exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
>In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
>on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
>come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
>any codes are stored.
They're looking for more than stored codes. They're checking to see if all of
the OBD II monitors have been run. If not, you don't pass.
>
>So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
>morning when you start the car.
>
>My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
>knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
>were tested tomorrow.
>
>The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
>that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
>exempt from the standards.
>
>The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
>drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
#144
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Re: musing about fuel savings
In message <6b71a$4337754b$d8449845$916@FUSE.NET>, "Billy Ray" wrote:
>I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
>The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
>exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
>In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
>on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
>come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
>any codes are stored.
They're looking for more than stored codes. They're checking to see if all of
the OBD II monitors have been run. If not, you don't pass.
>
>So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
>morning when you start the car.
>
>My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
>knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
>were tested tomorrow.
>
>The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
>that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
>exempt from the standards.
>
>The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
>drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
>I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
>The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
>exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
>In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
>on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
>come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
>any codes are stored.
They're looking for more than stored codes. They're checking to see if all of
the OBD II monitors have been run. If not, you don't pass.
>
>So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
>morning when you start the car.
>
>My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
>knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
>were tested tomorrow.
>
>The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
>that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
>exempt from the standards.
>
>The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
>drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
#145
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Re: musing about fuel savings
In message <6b71a$4337754b$d8449845$916@FUSE.NET>, "Billy Ray" wrote:
>I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
>The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
>exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
>In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
>on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
>come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
>any codes are stored.
They're looking for more than stored codes. They're checking to see if all of
the OBD II monitors have been run. If not, you don't pass.
>
>So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
>morning when you start the car.
>
>My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
>knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
>were tested tomorrow.
>
>The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
>that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
>exempt from the standards.
>
>The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
>drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
>I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
>The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
>exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
>In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
>on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
>come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
>any codes are stored.
They're looking for more than stored codes. They're checking to see if all of
the OBD II monitors have been run. If not, you don't pass.
>
>So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
>morning when you start the car.
>
>My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
>knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
>were tested tomorrow.
>
>The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
>that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
>exempt from the standards.
>
>The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
>drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
#146
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Re: musing about fuel savings
ßill L. W. ------ III wrote:
> Keith Black hard block Hemis use two spark plugs:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/ScottKalitta.jpg Which costs between
> fifty and a quarter of a million dollars. But not no other Chrysler Hemi
> chamber ever had an extra plugged hole:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiChamber.jpg
All the early 426 castings did, I can remember seeing a set in an auto
machine shop in '79 or so and asking. All the fuelers had two plugs and
some apparently had three. But NASCAR engines did too.
Road race Aston Martins and Maseratis did too. The street versions
didn't, but the wealthy Europeans would promptly have them retrofitted.
The port in the head was there, sometimes with a dummy plug and
sometimes just undrilled and tapped. The hot setup was one mag and one
distributor, for easy starting and excellent top end. But getting them
synched was a bugger.
Now electronic ignitions put out way more zap than a mag at ANY speed.
Magnetos are for museum pieces like vintage racers and Lycomings.
#147
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Re: musing about fuel savings
ßill L. W. ------ III wrote:
> Keith Black hard block Hemis use two spark plugs:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/ScottKalitta.jpg Which costs between
> fifty and a quarter of a million dollars. But not no other Chrysler Hemi
> chamber ever had an extra plugged hole:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiChamber.jpg
All the early 426 castings did, I can remember seeing a set in an auto
machine shop in '79 or so and asking. All the fuelers had two plugs and
some apparently had three. But NASCAR engines did too.
Road race Aston Martins and Maseratis did too. The street versions
didn't, but the wealthy Europeans would promptly have them retrofitted.
The port in the head was there, sometimes with a dummy plug and
sometimes just undrilled and tapped. The hot setup was one mag and one
distributor, for easy starting and excellent top end. But getting them
synched was a bugger.
Now electronic ignitions put out way more zap than a mag at ANY speed.
Magnetos are for museum pieces like vintage racers and Lycomings.
#148
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Re: musing about fuel savings
ßill L. W. ------ III wrote:
> Keith Black hard block Hemis use two spark plugs:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/ScottKalitta.jpg Which costs between
> fifty and a quarter of a million dollars. But not no other Chrysler Hemi
> chamber ever had an extra plugged hole:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiChamber.jpg
All the early 426 castings did, I can remember seeing a set in an auto
machine shop in '79 or so and asking. All the fuelers had two plugs and
some apparently had three. But NASCAR engines did too.
Road race Aston Martins and Maseratis did too. The street versions
didn't, but the wealthy Europeans would promptly have them retrofitted.
The port in the head was there, sometimes with a dummy plug and
sometimes just undrilled and tapped. The hot setup was one mag and one
distributor, for easy starting and excellent top end. But getting them
synched was a bugger.
Now electronic ignitions put out way more zap than a mag at ANY speed.
Magnetos are for museum pieces like vintage racers and Lycomings.
#149
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Minnesota eliminated the inspections a few years back for exactly the
reasons you mention. I was amazed that a government would eliminate
part of itself.
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 00:11:58 -0400, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
>The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
>exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
>In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
>on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
>come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
>any codes are stored.
>
>So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
>morning when you start the car.
>
>My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
>knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
>were tested tomorrow.
>
>The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
>that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
>exempt from the standards.
>
>The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
>drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
reasons you mention. I was amazed that a government would eliminate
part of itself.
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 00:11:58 -0400, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
>The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
>exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
>In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
>on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
>come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
>any codes are stored.
>
>So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
>morning when you start the car.
>
>My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
>knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
>were tested tomorrow.
>
>The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
>that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
>exempt from the standards.
>
>The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
>drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
#150
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Minnesota eliminated the inspections a few years back for exactly the
reasons you mention. I was amazed that a government would eliminate
part of itself.
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 00:11:58 -0400, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
>The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
>exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
>In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
>on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
>come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
>any codes are stored.
>
>So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
>morning when you start the car.
>
>My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
>knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
>were tested tomorrow.
>
>The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
>that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
>exempt from the standards.
>
>The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
>drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
reasons you mention. I was amazed that a government would eliminate
part of itself.
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 00:11:58 -0400, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>I just had to have my WJ inspected for its EPA certification.
>
>The "test" last week was different than ones in the past where a tailpipe
>exhaust gas sniffer or visual examination was used.
>
>In the current testing they turn your vehicle off, turn the ignition switch
>on to see if your idiot lights work, start the vehicle to see if any lights
>come on, turn the engine off and connect to the car's OBD outlet and see if
>any codes are stored.
>
>So they don't actually check anything different than what you do every
>morning when you start the car.
>
>My WJ passed but no one knows whether I passed by 1 point or 100. No one
>knows if I have an excellently maintained vehicle or one that will fail if
>were tested tomorrow.
>
>The program is being cancelled December 31st because the state determined
>that the only cars that were failing were, generally, the ones that were
>exempt from the standards.
>
>The test shows nothing, costs $19.50 (2 years certification), and I had to
>drive through two ghetto areas to get there.
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com