Mismatched tire brands
#211
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Re: Mismatched tire brands
Ha!
Reminds me when I lived in a rural area
outside Ottawa. Every Spring the police
would drive around and pull over every car
that looked old or unsafe. Then direct them
to a mall parking lot with mechanics waiting for them.
Any car that failed the safty check (tires,brakes,rust holes,lights,
windows etc..)
the plates were pulled off and then towed away.
TW wrote:
>
> The logic here in New Zealand is in line with Canada. You cannot have
> two mismatched tyres on the same axle (it is illegal). If there is an
> accident, you are history as probably the insurance won't cover it as
> well because you were driving an "unfit" or "unsafe" car. We have to
> have a warrant of fitness performed on our cars here (annually if it is
> less than six years old, six monthly after that) and part of the test
> includes tread depth, tread wear and pattern. Its much easier to just
> replace them all and sell the old ones separately if some of them are
> any good.
>
> TW
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43877711.F764BD97@sympatico.ca...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43876374.80788C09@sympatico.ca...
>> > Spdloader wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Good lord if I believed everything I read, I'd be scared to death
>> > > to drive after reading some of these replies.
>> > >
>> > > It's important to have a matched set of tires on your vehicle, but if
>> > > you
>> > > can't, match them per axle.
>> > >
>> > > NOTHING catastrophic is going to happen to you running a slightly
>> > > different tire,
>> >
>> > They told me it made 'The' difference between me going to jail or
>> > not.....
>> >
>> In the United States of America you would need a jury to put someone
>> in jail
>> for something like this. An overly enthusiastic assistant district
>> attorney
>> might threaten to prosecute, but it would be bluff, and he would be
>> trying
>> for a plea bargain, not justified by the facts. How many jury members
>> would
>> have mismatched tires, or have no idea what size tires were on their own
>> cars? I think that "they" were just trying to impress you with how much
>> power and authority they possessed. Even in a socialist state, this
>> sounds
>> like bullcrap.
>>
>> Earle
>
>
> Here they figure if you are driving an unsafe vehicle and kill someone
> in an 'accident', the 'accident' is no longer an accident, you are at
> fault for driving an unsafe vehicle. 'Maybe' you could have avoided the
> other person if you vehicle had proper tires to turn properly.
>
> I was lucky, the guy that hit me lived and my Cherokee is in good
> mechanical shape.
>
> I guess for something that big, it would take a jury up here too...
>
> But you still would get screwed over just in a regular accident if you
> have an odd tire.
>
> Mike
Reminds me when I lived in a rural area
outside Ottawa. Every Spring the police
would drive around and pull over every car
that looked old or unsafe. Then direct them
to a mall parking lot with mechanics waiting for them.
Any car that failed the safty check (tires,brakes,rust holes,lights,
windows etc..)
the plates were pulled off and then towed away.
TW wrote:
>
> The logic here in New Zealand is in line with Canada. You cannot have
> two mismatched tyres on the same axle (it is illegal). If there is an
> accident, you are history as probably the insurance won't cover it as
> well because you were driving an "unfit" or "unsafe" car. We have to
> have a warrant of fitness performed on our cars here (annually if it is
> less than six years old, six monthly after that) and part of the test
> includes tread depth, tread wear and pattern. Its much easier to just
> replace them all and sell the old ones separately if some of them are
> any good.
>
> TW
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43877711.F764BD97@sympatico.ca...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43876374.80788C09@sympatico.ca...
>> > Spdloader wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Good lord if I believed everything I read, I'd be scared to death
>> > > to drive after reading some of these replies.
>> > >
>> > > It's important to have a matched set of tires on your vehicle, but if
>> > > you
>> > > can't, match them per axle.
>> > >
>> > > NOTHING catastrophic is going to happen to you running a slightly
>> > > different tire,
>> >
>> > They told me it made 'The' difference between me going to jail or
>> > not.....
>> >
>> In the United States of America you would need a jury to put someone
>> in jail
>> for something like this. An overly enthusiastic assistant district
>> attorney
>> might threaten to prosecute, but it would be bluff, and he would be
>> trying
>> for a plea bargain, not justified by the facts. How many jury members
>> would
>> have mismatched tires, or have no idea what size tires were on their own
>> cars? I think that "they" were just trying to impress you with how much
>> power and authority they possessed. Even in a socialist state, this
>> sounds
>> like bullcrap.
>>
>> Earle
>
>
> Here they figure if you are driving an unsafe vehicle and kill someone
> in an 'accident', the 'accident' is no longer an accident, you are at
> fault for driving an unsafe vehicle. 'Maybe' you could have avoided the
> other person if you vehicle had proper tires to turn properly.
>
> I was lucky, the guy that hit me lived and my Cherokee is in good
> mechanical shape.
>
> I guess for something that big, it would take a jury up here too...
>
> But you still would get screwed over just in a regular accident if you
> have an odd tire.
>
> Mike
#212
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Re: Mismatched tire brands
I'll have to re-check here in New Zealand, but as far as I know and remember
Cherokees here never came without a full size spare.
TW
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dmd1ib$pnh$3@reader2.panix.com...
My used `89 Cherokee still had its factory-fresh "space saver" spare in
place when I bought it.
Cherokees here never came without a full size spare.
TW
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dmd1ib$pnh$3@reader2.panix.com...
My used `89 Cherokee still had its factory-fresh "space saver" spare in
place when I bought it.
#213
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Re: Mismatched tire brands
I'll have to re-check here in New Zealand, but as far as I know and remember
Cherokees here never came without a full size spare.
TW
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dmd1ib$pnh$3@reader2.panix.com...
My used `89 Cherokee still had its factory-fresh "space saver" spare in
place when I bought it.
Cherokees here never came without a full size spare.
TW
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dmd1ib$pnh$3@reader2.panix.com...
My used `89 Cherokee still had its factory-fresh "space saver" spare in
place when I bought it.
#214
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Re: Mismatched tire brands
I'll have to re-check here in New Zealand, but as far as I know and remember
Cherokees here never came without a full size spare.
TW
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dmd1ib$pnh$3@reader2.panix.com...
My used `89 Cherokee still had its factory-fresh "space saver" spare in
place when I bought it.
Cherokees here never came without a full size spare.
TW
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dmd1ib$pnh$3@reader2.panix.com...
My used `89 Cherokee still had its factory-fresh "space saver" spare in
place when I bought it.
#215
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Re: Mismatched tire brands
In Britain we just need two tyres of the same advertised size and
construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43899966$0$5242$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
We
> were talking about Firestone matched with Goodyear, both radials, or even
> two different model tires from the same manufacturer. And Canadian cops
or
> accident investigators throwing their weight around. I am so glad that I
> don't (yet) live in a totalitarian society.
construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43899966$0$5242$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
We
> were talking about Firestone matched with Goodyear, both radials, or even
> two different model tires from the same manufacturer. And Canadian cops
or
> accident investigators throwing their weight around. I am so glad that I
> don't (yet) live in a totalitarian society.
#216
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Re: Mismatched tire brands
In Britain we just need two tyres of the same advertised size and
construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43899966$0$5242$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
We
> were talking about Firestone matched with Goodyear, both radials, or even
> two different model tires from the same manufacturer. And Canadian cops
or
> accident investigators throwing their weight around. I am so glad that I
> don't (yet) live in a totalitarian society.
construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43899966$0$5242$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
We
> were talking about Firestone matched with Goodyear, both radials, or even
> two different model tires from the same manufacturer. And Canadian cops
or
> accident investigators throwing their weight around. I am so glad that I
> don't (yet) live in a totalitarian society.
#217
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Re: Mismatched tire brands
In Britain we just need two tyres of the same advertised size and
construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43899966$0$5242$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
We
> were talking about Firestone matched with Goodyear, both radials, or even
> two different model tires from the same manufacturer. And Canadian cops
or
> accident investigators throwing their weight around. I am so glad that I
> don't (yet) live in a totalitarian society.
construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43899966$0$5242$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
We
> were talking about Firestone matched with Goodyear, both radials, or even
> two different model tires from the same manufacturer. And Canadian cops
or
> accident investigators throwing their weight around. I am so glad that I
> don't (yet) live in a totalitarian society.
#218
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Re: Mismatched tire brands
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:11:45 UTC "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> In Britain we just need two tyres of the same advertised size and
> construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
> same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
> requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
> axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
> driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
> use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
>
> If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
> a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
I'm pretty sure that is the regulation in most places here - although
Colorado does have some interesting "howevers" in the code. One
touring tire and one mid/snow rated tire on the drive end would
probably be a lot of fun going up Loveland Pass on a snow packed road
even if it were legal. I think the rule here is that the highway
patrol can require equipment in steps ranging from no restriction
other than the size/construction to m/s rated tires on the drive axle
to chains or 4WD to "forget it and go home". Like most laws, what's
legal ain't necessarily what's smart. Of course, the problem is more
often the ******** who wouldn't know what to do with proper tires much
less what they are.
--
Will Honea
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> In Britain we just need two tyres of the same advertised size and
> construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
> same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
> requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
> axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
> driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
> use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
>
> If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
> a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
I'm pretty sure that is the regulation in most places here - although
Colorado does have some interesting "howevers" in the code. One
touring tire and one mid/snow rated tire on the drive end would
probably be a lot of fun going up Loveland Pass on a snow packed road
even if it were legal. I think the rule here is that the highway
patrol can require equipment in steps ranging from no restriction
other than the size/construction to m/s rated tires on the drive axle
to chains or 4WD to "forget it and go home". Like most laws, what's
legal ain't necessarily what's smart. Of course, the problem is more
often the ******** who wouldn't know what to do with proper tires much
less what they are.
--
Will Honea
#219
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Re: Mismatched tire brands
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:11:45 UTC "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> In Britain we just need two tyres of the same advertised size and
> construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
> same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
> requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
> axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
> driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
> use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
>
> If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
> a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
I'm pretty sure that is the regulation in most places here - although
Colorado does have some interesting "howevers" in the code. One
touring tire and one mid/snow rated tire on the drive end would
probably be a lot of fun going up Loveland Pass on a snow packed road
even if it were legal. I think the rule here is that the highway
patrol can require equipment in steps ranging from no restriction
other than the size/construction to m/s rated tires on the drive axle
to chains or 4WD to "forget it and go home". Like most laws, what's
legal ain't necessarily what's smart. Of course, the problem is more
often the ******** who wouldn't know what to do with proper tires much
less what they are.
--
Will Honea
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> In Britain we just need two tyres of the same advertised size and
> construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
> same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
> requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
> axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
> driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
> use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
>
> If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
> a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
I'm pretty sure that is the regulation in most places here - although
Colorado does have some interesting "howevers" in the code. One
touring tire and one mid/snow rated tire on the drive end would
probably be a lot of fun going up Loveland Pass on a snow packed road
even if it were legal. I think the rule here is that the highway
patrol can require equipment in steps ranging from no restriction
other than the size/construction to m/s rated tires on the drive axle
to chains or 4WD to "forget it and go home". Like most laws, what's
legal ain't necessarily what's smart. Of course, the problem is more
often the ******** who wouldn't know what to do with proper tires much
less what they are.
--
Will Honea
#220
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Re: Mismatched tire brands
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:11:45 UTC "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> In Britain we just need two tyres of the same advertised size and
> construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
> same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
> requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
> axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
> driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
> use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
>
> If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
> a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
I'm pretty sure that is the regulation in most places here - although
Colorado does have some interesting "howevers" in the code. One
touring tire and one mid/snow rated tire on the drive end would
probably be a lot of fun going up Loveland Pass on a snow packed road
even if it were legal. I think the rule here is that the highway
patrol can require equipment in steps ranging from no restriction
other than the size/construction to m/s rated tires on the drive axle
to chains or 4WD to "forget it and go home". Like most laws, what's
legal ain't necessarily what's smart. Of course, the problem is more
often the ******** who wouldn't know what to do with proper tires much
less what they are.
--
Will Honea
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> In Britain we just need two tyres of the same advertised size and
> construction { radial | crossply } on the same axle. No requirement for the
> same type (e.g. mud terrain v all terrain) on the same axle, and no
> requirement for the front axles to have the same size tyres as the rear
> axles. Although I have always had 5 identical tyres on my trucks, I've
> driven my 3 litre Alfa with Yokos and a Pirelli spare which I have had to
> use on occasion - no noticeable difference in handling.
>
> If we were *that* concerned about safety and the ability to switch lanes in
> a hurry, we wouldn't be driving Jeeps, and especially not lifted Jeeps.
I'm pretty sure that is the regulation in most places here - although
Colorado does have some interesting "howevers" in the code. One
touring tire and one mid/snow rated tire on the drive end would
probably be a lot of fun going up Loveland Pass on a snow packed road
even if it were legal. I think the rule here is that the highway
patrol can require equipment in steps ranging from no restriction
other than the size/construction to m/s rated tires on the drive axle
to chains or 4WD to "forget it and go home". Like most laws, what's
legal ain't necessarily what's smart. Of course, the problem is more
often the ******** who wouldn't know what to do with proper tires much
less what they are.
--
Will Honea