Jeep Toad
09-06-2006, 09:58 PM
#161
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Re: Jeep Toad
Simon Juncal wrote:
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> That's because skyjacker and most off road after market
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
common sense get in the way of his opinions.
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> That's because skyjacker and most off road after market
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
common sense get in the way of his opinions.
09-06-2006, 09:58 PM
#162
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Re: Jeep Toad
Simon Juncal wrote:
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> That's because skyjacker and most off road after market
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
common sense get in the way of his opinions.
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> That's because skyjacker and most off road after market
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
common sense get in the way of his opinions.
09-06-2006, 09:58 PM
#163
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Re: Jeep Toad
Simon Juncal wrote:
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> That's because skyjacker and most off road after market
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
common sense get in the way of his opinions.
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> That's because skyjacker and most off road after market
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
common sense get in the way of his opinions.
09-06-2006, 10:35 PM
#164
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Re: Jeep Toad
You might notice that Bill uses links to back his theories, where
wannabees like you just lie.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
> common sense get in the way of his opinions.
wannabees like you just lie.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
> common sense get in the way of his opinions.
09-06-2006, 10:35 PM
#165
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Re: Jeep Toad
You might notice that Bill uses links to back his theories, where
wannabees like you just lie.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
> common sense get in the way of his opinions.
wannabees like you just lie.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
> common sense get in the way of his opinions.
09-06-2006, 10:35 PM
#166
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Re: Jeep Toad
You might notice that Bill uses links to back his theories, where
wannabees like you just lie.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
> common sense get in the way of his opinions.
wannabees like you just lie.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> One thing you'll learn right quick is that Bill never lets facts or
> common sense get in the way of his opinions.
09-06-2006, 10:58 PM
#167
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Re: Jeep Toad
The two wheel drive plastic Bronco look-a-like was built by Bill
Stroppe: http://www.bajabronco.com/BigOly.shtml Whom also built stock
stuff for Ford like Hurst, and Shelby:
http://broncograveyard.com/images/tr...ppeinvoice.jpg
http://75stroppe.ranchoweb.com/
I almost forgot that I was once Oly sponsored:
http://www.----------.com/olympia.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Funny you'd think Jones would have insisted on converting Big Oly to
> leaf springs if they were superior... It wouldn't have been difficult,
> the entire frame of Big Oly was custom tubing. It would have been.
>
> Perhaps Olympia Beer was working on a Coil spring lift kit and insisted
> that Jones keep the coils...
>
> I'm no Baja racer or rock crawler, all I know is there are ---- loads of
> coil over four links in the rock crawling world, must be the evil
> Skyjacker forcing their will upon the drivers right? Funny how none of
> the new drivers who don't have Lift kit sponsors or other veteran
> drivers don't convert to Leaf springs and dominate the competition...
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Stroppe: http://www.bajabronco.com/BigOly.shtml Whom also built stock
stuff for Ford like Hurst, and Shelby:
http://broncograveyard.com/images/tr...ppeinvoice.jpg
http://75stroppe.ranchoweb.com/
I almost forgot that I was once Oly sponsored:
http://www.----------.com/olympia.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Funny you'd think Jones would have insisted on converting Big Oly to
> leaf springs if they were superior... It wouldn't have been difficult,
> the entire frame of Big Oly was custom tubing. It would have been.
>
> Perhaps Olympia Beer was working on a Coil spring lift kit and insisted
> that Jones keep the coils...
>
> I'm no Baja racer or rock crawler, all I know is there are ---- loads of
> coil over four links in the rock crawling world, must be the evil
> Skyjacker forcing their will upon the drivers right? Funny how none of
> the new drivers who don't have Lift kit sponsors or other veteran
> drivers don't convert to Leaf springs and dominate the competition...
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
09-06-2006, 10:58 PM
#168
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Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Toad
The two wheel drive plastic Bronco look-a-like was built by Bill
Stroppe: http://www.bajabronco.com/BigOly.shtml Whom also built stock
stuff for Ford like Hurst, and Shelby:
http://broncograveyard.com/images/tr...ppeinvoice.jpg
http://75stroppe.ranchoweb.com/
I almost forgot that I was once Oly sponsored:
http://www.----------.com/olympia.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Funny you'd think Jones would have insisted on converting Big Oly to
> leaf springs if they were superior... It wouldn't have been difficult,
> the entire frame of Big Oly was custom tubing. It would have been.
>
> Perhaps Olympia Beer was working on a Coil spring lift kit and insisted
> that Jones keep the coils...
>
> I'm no Baja racer or rock crawler, all I know is there are ---- loads of
> coil over four links in the rock crawling world, must be the evil
> Skyjacker forcing their will upon the drivers right? Funny how none of
> the new drivers who don't have Lift kit sponsors or other veteran
> drivers don't convert to Leaf springs and dominate the competition...
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Stroppe: http://www.bajabronco.com/BigOly.shtml Whom also built stock
stuff for Ford like Hurst, and Shelby:
http://broncograveyard.com/images/tr...ppeinvoice.jpg
http://75stroppe.ranchoweb.com/
I almost forgot that I was once Oly sponsored:
http://www.----------.com/olympia.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Funny you'd think Jones would have insisted on converting Big Oly to
> leaf springs if they were superior... It wouldn't have been difficult,
> the entire frame of Big Oly was custom tubing. It would have been.
>
> Perhaps Olympia Beer was working on a Coil spring lift kit and insisted
> that Jones keep the coils...
>
> I'm no Baja racer or rock crawler, all I know is there are ---- loads of
> coil over four links in the rock crawling world, must be the evil
> Skyjacker forcing their will upon the drivers right? Funny how none of
> the new drivers who don't have Lift kit sponsors or other veteran
> drivers don't convert to Leaf springs and dominate the competition...
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
09-06-2006, 10:58 PM
#169
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Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep Toad
The two wheel drive plastic Bronco look-a-like was built by Bill
Stroppe: http://www.bajabronco.com/BigOly.shtml Whom also built stock
stuff for Ford like Hurst, and Shelby:
http://broncograveyard.com/images/tr...ppeinvoice.jpg
http://75stroppe.ranchoweb.com/
I almost forgot that I was once Oly sponsored:
http://www.----------.com/olympia.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Funny you'd think Jones would have insisted on converting Big Oly to
> leaf springs if they were superior... It wouldn't have been difficult,
> the entire frame of Big Oly was custom tubing. It would have been.
>
> Perhaps Olympia Beer was working on a Coil spring lift kit and insisted
> that Jones keep the coils...
>
> I'm no Baja racer or rock crawler, all I know is there are ---- loads of
> coil over four links in the rock crawling world, must be the evil
> Skyjacker forcing their will upon the drivers right? Funny how none of
> the new drivers who don't have Lift kit sponsors or other veteran
> drivers don't convert to Leaf springs and dominate the competition...
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Stroppe: http://www.bajabronco.com/BigOly.shtml Whom also built stock
stuff for Ford like Hurst, and Shelby:
http://broncograveyard.com/images/tr...ppeinvoice.jpg
http://75stroppe.ranchoweb.com/
I almost forgot that I was once Oly sponsored:
http://www.----------.com/olympia.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Funny you'd think Jones would have insisted on converting Big Oly to
> leaf springs if they were superior... It wouldn't have been difficult,
> the entire frame of Big Oly was custom tubing. It would have been.
>
> Perhaps Olympia Beer was working on a Coil spring lift kit and insisted
> that Jones keep the coils...
>
> I'm no Baja racer or rock crawler, all I know is there are ---- loads of
> coil over four links in the rock crawling world, must be the evil
> Skyjacker forcing their will upon the drivers right? Funny how none of
> the new drivers who don't have Lift kit sponsors or other veteran
> drivers don't convert to Leaf springs and dominate the competition...
>
> And here I was thinking that pro racers and rock crawlers would do
> ANYTHING to gain a competitive advantage...
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
09-06-2006, 11:14 PM
#170
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Re: Jeep Toad
What are babbling about????? Maybe you should study your TJ's
suspension and tell me what you think is good about it:
http://www.----------.com/temp/TJalignment.jpg as compared to a Real
leaf suspension under a TJ:
http://www.----------.com/temp/tjleafSprings.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Yes shocks can limit total compression and extension... That's great
> Bill you're starting to learn about suspensions... now keep reading soon
> you will understand just how out of touch you've been.
>
> BTW you didn't actually think I was going to fall for your attempt to
> build a strawman with this shock absorber post did you?
>
> For anyone who's following along and has been confused by Bill's
> non-sequitur, he is "pretending" that I stated something about Coils
> determining absolute suspension travel... Of course Shocks physically
> limit travel no matter how much your Coils can droop or compress... same
> with leaf springs of course.
>
> To suggest otherwise would be pretty retarded... For Bill to pretend I'm
> saying that is pretty much pure desperation.
>
> --
> Simon
suspension and tell me what you think is good about it:
http://www.----------.com/temp/TJalignment.jpg as compared to a Real
leaf suspension under a TJ:
http://www.----------.com/temp/tjleafSprings.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Yes shocks can limit total compression and extension... That's great
> Bill you're starting to learn about suspensions... now keep reading soon
> you will understand just how out of touch you've been.
>
> BTW you didn't actually think I was going to fall for your attempt to
> build a strawman with this shock absorber post did you?
>
> For anyone who's following along and has been confused by Bill's
> non-sequitur, he is "pretending" that I stated something about Coils
> determining absolute suspension travel... Of course Shocks physically
> limit travel no matter how much your Coils can droop or compress... same
> with leaf springs of course.
>
> To suggest otherwise would be pretty retarded... For Bill to pretend I'm
> saying that is pretty much pure desperation.
>
> --
> Simon