Jeep Realiability
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Glaswegians are called "weegies", or "keelies". It's best not to call them
the latter to their faces heh heh.
numerous jokes exist about them e.g.
"what do you call a weegie man wearing a suit ? (the Accused)""
"what do you call a weegie women wearing a shell suit ? (the Bride)"
etc etc
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnv8gaf34e7j78@corp.supernews.com...
: The Scots were absolutely wonderful and fascinating to sit and chat with,
: even if I couldn't understand half what they said most of the time. One
old
: geezer who lived in the neighborhood near the pub told Brit jokes and had
me
: in stitches. (He might have been the guy re-skinning the 400 chairs for
all
: in know.) Aren't Glasgowites called "Glaswegians", Dave?
:
:
: "Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: news:l94vnvs72806v1bq7h8e7fsodvb0gvmg2t@4ax.com...
: > On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:24:11 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
: > <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
: >
: > >I think my ancestral people are waiting for Mel Gibson to come back &
: lead
: > >'em again.
: > >
: > >I was in Glasgow back in '99 and ambled into a local pub. When the
locals
: > >found out I was a Yank of Scottish descent I never bought another
: beer..er,
: > >ale, er lager. Funny, though, I couldn't understand a single word some
of
: > >'em said!
: >
: > My father is a Scot, but he didn't go on that trip. The Scots are
: > great people. The food is so-so. :)
: >
: >
: > >"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: > >news:b11unv4k50rplujrai30kpkgi0o7s8calg@4ax.com.. .
: > >> On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:15:14 GMT, "Dave Milne"
: > >> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: > >>
: > >> >Hah, sort of. We now have a Scottish parliament (good start), but it
: > >would
: > >> >appear we are incapable of governing ourselves (bad news). The
: parliament
: > >> >decided they need a nice new building to meet in (not that Edinburgh
: is
: > >> >exactly short of fine buildings), so they set about building one for
: 40
: > >> >million quid. The total cost so far (and it isnt complete) is 400
: million
: > >> >quid. A friend of a friend got the contract for covering 400 chairs
: with
: > >> >leather, which had to be an exotic foreign leather. Having completed
: the
: > >400
: > >> >chairs, he got the contract again to do the same chairs with a
: slightly
: > >> >different shade of exotic leather. Half way through, some "numpty"
: > >decided
: > >> >that they had forgotten to mention that the building should be bomb
: proof
: > >> >allegedly.
: > >> >As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that
: would
: > >be
: > >> >equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
: > >>
: > >> I was over in Scotland oh more than a few years back and the
Parliment
: > >> building was under construction back then! You mean they still
haven't
: > >> finished it? When I was there it was not even a framework.
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>
: > >> >
: > >> >Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >
: > >> >"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
: > >> >news:vns4ompgnggbcf@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: Ay the home 'o me Great, Great Grandpappy! Actually he was born in
: > >> >Dumfries,
: > >> >: but he headed for Edinburgh as a lad, probably had buggered the
: Vicar's
: > >> >: daughter or something and needed to get out of town fast! :-)
: > >> >:
: > >> >: Have we declared our once and for all independence from England
yet?
: > >> >:
: > >> >: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: news:1Mlfb.8193$df6.67254513@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > I'm an Edinburgh lad !
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: > --
: > >> >: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
: > >> >: > news:vnmqteq77jp979@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: > : Ah, but fear not, Mother Ford is here to help! Pretty soon
: you'll
: > >be
: > >> >: able
: > >> >: > to
: > >> >: > : buy a Ford-based Land Rover, which won't off-road worth a
crap,
: but
: > >> >: it'll
: > >> >: > : start every time!
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > : What part of Scotland are you from, mate?
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : news:nyHeb.6286$Uc.52033728@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > : > Sounds about right.. I shuttle between Edinburgh and
Solihull
: > >where
: > >> >: they
: > >> >: > : > make Land Rovers. Despite the fact that Landys have more
: > >substantial
: > >> >: > : > chassis, suspension and running gear , I didn't buy one -
the
: > >> >: > electrolytic
: > >> >: > : > corrosion from the alloy and steel is bad, the turbo diesel
: > >engines
: > >> >: are
: > >> >: > : crap
: > >> >: > : > (and that's all you can get in a Defender - bring back the
: 61-63
: > >> >Buick
: > >> >: > : > 3528cc, now 4600cc derived engine from the Disco). My pal
got
: a
: > >> >second
: > >> >: > : hand
: > >> >: > : > Range Rover recently ; looked a lot better deal than my
Jeep,
: but
: > >> >two
: > >> >: > days
: > >> >: > : > later it started all by itself, blew its computer and landed
: the
: > >> >owner
: > >> >: > : with
: > >> >: > : > a 1600 USD repair bill. Then the heated seats broke etc etc
: etc.
: > >> >When
: > >> >: a
: > >> >: > : > Solihull mechanic recommends you avoid LR, there has to be
: > >something
: > >> >: > wrong
: > >> >: > : !
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : > --
: > >> >: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in
message
: > >> >: > : > news:vnk5bpqquvj3b@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: > : > : Here in the States Land Rover is a perennial bottom
dweller
: on
: > >our
: > >> >: > : > : reliability studies. Some of my old staff from Jaguar USA
: are
: > >now
: > >> >: > : > : responsible for Land Rover and have me in stitches
laughing
: at
: > >> >some
: > >> >: of
: > >> >: > : the
: > >> >: > : > : current LR reliability problems. Having worked for Jaguar
: for
: > >15
: > >> >: > years,
: > >> >: > : > : including pre-Ford, it's all "Deja Vu All Over Again". Oil
: > >leaks,
: > >> >: > : > electrical
: > >> >: > : > : problems, corrosion, poor panel fits, bad paint, worn
: leather,
: > >> >: broken
: > >> >: > : > : switchgear...what would we expect, as soon as Ford fired a
: > >Jaguar
: > >> >: > : > engineer,
: > >> >: > : > : he got hired at Rover!
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : > : news:Cmneb.5277$E%5.44408874@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > : > : > Landy better than a Jeep for reliability ? Are they
: serious
: > >??
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > : > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : > "Gyp" <gyp@localdomain.net> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : > : > news:bkrmee$l5u$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
: > >> >: > : > : > : Lo Jeepers,
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK)
: paper
: > >> >: (Daily
: > >> >: > : > : > : Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct
: > >Reliability
: > >> >: > index"
: > >> >: > : > : > : which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k
cards
: > >with
: > >> >an
: > >> >: > : > average
: > >> >: > : > : > : age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702
: > >miles.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill
: of
: > >£275
: > >> >: and
: > >> >: > a
: > >> >: > : > 16%
: > >> >: > : > : > : failure rate.
: > >> >: > : > : > : Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and
a
: > >32%
: > >> >: > failure
: > >> >: > : > : rate
: > >> >: > : > : > : Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and
a
: > >20%
: > >> >: > failure
: > >> >: > : > : rate)
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Right down at the other end..
: > >> >: > : > : > : At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of
: £420
: > >> >and
: > >> >: a
: > >> >: > : 44%
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
: > >> >: > : > : > : 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill
of
: > >£1040
: > >> >: and
: > >> >: > a
: > >> >: > : > 21%
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill
: > >> >: > : > : > : and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place
(last)
: > >with
: > >> >an
: > >> >: > : > average
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of
: 41%.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although
: > >since
: > >> >the
: > >> >: > : > highest
: > >> >: > : > : > : failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it
: > >makes
: > >> >me
: > >> >: > : wonder
: > >> >: > : > : > : quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle
: > >makes
: > >> >: > sense.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Gyp
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : --
: > >> >: > : > : > : Jeep at the Threshold
: > >> >: > : > : > : http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
: > >> >: > : > : > : --
: > >> >: > : > : > : 4x4 Anoraks Offload
: > >> >: > : > : > : http://anoraks.uk.net
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: >
: > >> >:
: > >> >:
: > >> >
: > >>
: > >
: >
:
:
the latter to their faces heh heh.
numerous jokes exist about them e.g.
"what do you call a weegie man wearing a suit ? (the Accused)""
"what do you call a weegie women wearing a shell suit ? (the Bride)"
etc etc
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnv8gaf34e7j78@corp.supernews.com...
: The Scots were absolutely wonderful and fascinating to sit and chat with,
: even if I couldn't understand half what they said most of the time. One
old
: geezer who lived in the neighborhood near the pub told Brit jokes and had
me
: in stitches. (He might have been the guy re-skinning the 400 chairs for
all
: in know.) Aren't Glasgowites called "Glaswegians", Dave?
:
:
: "Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: news:l94vnvs72806v1bq7h8e7fsodvb0gvmg2t@4ax.com...
: > On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:24:11 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
: > <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
: >
: > >I think my ancestral people are waiting for Mel Gibson to come back &
: lead
: > >'em again.
: > >
: > >I was in Glasgow back in '99 and ambled into a local pub. When the
locals
: > >found out I was a Yank of Scottish descent I never bought another
: beer..er,
: > >ale, er lager. Funny, though, I couldn't understand a single word some
of
: > >'em said!
: >
: > My father is a Scot, but he didn't go on that trip. The Scots are
: > great people. The food is so-so. :)
: >
: >
: > >"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: > >news:b11unv4k50rplujrai30kpkgi0o7s8calg@4ax.com.. .
: > >> On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:15:14 GMT, "Dave Milne"
: > >> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: > >>
: > >> >Hah, sort of. We now have a Scottish parliament (good start), but it
: > >would
: > >> >appear we are incapable of governing ourselves (bad news). The
: parliament
: > >> >decided they need a nice new building to meet in (not that Edinburgh
: is
: > >> >exactly short of fine buildings), so they set about building one for
: 40
: > >> >million quid. The total cost so far (and it isnt complete) is 400
: million
: > >> >quid. A friend of a friend got the contract for covering 400 chairs
: with
: > >> >leather, which had to be an exotic foreign leather. Having completed
: the
: > >400
: > >> >chairs, he got the contract again to do the same chairs with a
: slightly
: > >> >different shade of exotic leather. Half way through, some "numpty"
: > >decided
: > >> >that they had forgotten to mention that the building should be bomb
: proof
: > >> >allegedly.
: > >> >As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that
: would
: > >be
: > >> >equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
: > >>
: > >> I was over in Scotland oh more than a few years back and the
Parliment
: > >> building was under construction back then! You mean they still
haven't
: > >> finished it? When I was there it was not even a framework.
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>
: > >> >
: > >> >Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >
: > >> >"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
: > >> >news:vns4ompgnggbcf@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: Ay the home 'o me Great, Great Grandpappy! Actually he was born in
: > >> >Dumfries,
: > >> >: but he headed for Edinburgh as a lad, probably had buggered the
: Vicar's
: > >> >: daughter or something and needed to get out of town fast! :-)
: > >> >:
: > >> >: Have we declared our once and for all independence from England
yet?
: > >> >:
: > >> >: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: news:1Mlfb.8193$df6.67254513@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > I'm an Edinburgh lad !
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: > --
: > >> >: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
: > >> >: > news:vnmqteq77jp979@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: > : Ah, but fear not, Mother Ford is here to help! Pretty soon
: you'll
: > >be
: > >> >: able
: > >> >: > to
: > >> >: > : buy a Ford-based Land Rover, which won't off-road worth a
crap,
: but
: > >> >: it'll
: > >> >: > : start every time!
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > : What part of Scotland are you from, mate?
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : news:nyHeb.6286$Uc.52033728@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > : > Sounds about right.. I shuttle between Edinburgh and
Solihull
: > >where
: > >> >: they
: > >> >: > : > make Land Rovers. Despite the fact that Landys have more
: > >substantial
: > >> >: > : > chassis, suspension and running gear , I didn't buy one -
the
: > >> >: > electrolytic
: > >> >: > : > corrosion from the alloy and steel is bad, the turbo diesel
: > >engines
: > >> >: are
: > >> >: > : crap
: > >> >: > : > (and that's all you can get in a Defender - bring back the
: 61-63
: > >> >Buick
: > >> >: > : > 3528cc, now 4600cc derived engine from the Disco). My pal
got
: a
: > >> >second
: > >> >: > : hand
: > >> >: > : > Range Rover recently ; looked a lot better deal than my
Jeep,
: but
: > >> >two
: > >> >: > days
: > >> >: > : > later it started all by itself, blew its computer and landed
: the
: > >> >owner
: > >> >: > : with
: > >> >: > : > a 1600 USD repair bill. Then the heated seats broke etc etc
: etc.
: > >> >When
: > >> >: a
: > >> >: > : > Solihull mechanic recommends you avoid LR, there has to be
: > >something
: > >> >: > wrong
: > >> >: > : !
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : > --
: > >> >: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in
message
: > >> >: > : > news:vnk5bpqquvj3b@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: > : > : Here in the States Land Rover is a perennial bottom
dweller
: on
: > >our
: > >> >: > : > : reliability studies. Some of my old staff from Jaguar USA
: are
: > >now
: > >> >: > : > : responsible for Land Rover and have me in stitches
laughing
: at
: > >> >some
: > >> >: of
: > >> >: > : the
: > >> >: > : > : current LR reliability problems. Having worked for Jaguar
: for
: > >15
: > >> >: > years,
: > >> >: > : > : including pre-Ford, it's all "Deja Vu All Over Again". Oil
: > >leaks,
: > >> >: > : > electrical
: > >> >: > : > : problems, corrosion, poor panel fits, bad paint, worn
: leather,
: > >> >: broken
: > >> >: > : > : switchgear...what would we expect, as soon as Ford fired a
: > >Jaguar
: > >> >: > : > engineer,
: > >> >: > : > : he got hired at Rover!
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : > : news:Cmneb.5277$E%5.44408874@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > : > : > Landy better than a Jeep for reliability ? Are they
: serious
: > >??
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > : > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : > "Gyp" <gyp@localdomain.net> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : > : > news:bkrmee$l5u$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
: > >> >: > : > : > : Lo Jeepers,
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK)
: paper
: > >> >: (Daily
: > >> >: > : > : > : Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct
: > >Reliability
: > >> >: > index"
: > >> >: > : > : > : which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k
cards
: > >with
: > >> >an
: > >> >: > : > average
: > >> >: > : > : > : age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702
: > >miles.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill
: of
: > >£275
: > >> >: and
: > >> >: > a
: > >> >: > : > 16%
: > >> >: > : > : > : failure rate.
: > >> >: > : > : > : Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and
a
: > >32%
: > >> >: > failure
: > >> >: > : > : rate
: > >> >: > : > : > : Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and
a
: > >20%
: > >> >: > failure
: > >> >: > : > : rate)
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Right down at the other end..
: > >> >: > : > : > : At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of
: £420
: > >> >and
: > >> >: a
: > >> >: > : 44%
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
: > >> >: > : > : > : 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill
of
: > >£1040
: > >> >: and
: > >> >: > a
: > >> >: > : > 21%
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill
: > >> >: > : > : > : and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place
(last)
: > >with
: > >> >an
: > >> >: > : > average
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of
: 41%.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although
: > >since
: > >> >the
: > >> >: > : > highest
: > >> >: > : > : > : failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it
: > >makes
: > >> >me
: > >> >: > : wonder
: > >> >: > : > : > : quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle
: > >makes
: > >> >: > sense.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Gyp
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : --
: > >> >: > : > : > : Jeep at the Threshold
: > >> >: > : > : > : http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
: > >> >: > : > : > : --
: > >> >: > : > : > : 4x4 Anoraks Offload
: > >> >: > : > : > : http://anoraks.uk.net
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: >
: > >> >:
: > >> >:
: > >> >
: > >>
: > >
: >
:
:
Guest
Posts: n/a
Glaswegians are called "weegies", or "keelies". It's best not to call them
the latter to their faces heh heh.
numerous jokes exist about them e.g.
"what do you call a weegie man wearing a suit ? (the Accused)""
"what do you call a weegie women wearing a shell suit ? (the Bride)"
etc etc
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnv8gaf34e7j78@corp.supernews.com...
: The Scots were absolutely wonderful and fascinating to sit and chat with,
: even if I couldn't understand half what they said most of the time. One
old
: geezer who lived in the neighborhood near the pub told Brit jokes and had
me
: in stitches. (He might have been the guy re-skinning the 400 chairs for
all
: in know.) Aren't Glasgowites called "Glaswegians", Dave?
:
:
: "Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: news:l94vnvs72806v1bq7h8e7fsodvb0gvmg2t@4ax.com...
: > On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:24:11 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
: > <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
: >
: > >I think my ancestral people are waiting for Mel Gibson to come back &
: lead
: > >'em again.
: > >
: > >I was in Glasgow back in '99 and ambled into a local pub. When the
locals
: > >found out I was a Yank of Scottish descent I never bought another
: beer..er,
: > >ale, er lager. Funny, though, I couldn't understand a single word some
of
: > >'em said!
: >
: > My father is a Scot, but he didn't go on that trip. The Scots are
: > great people. The food is so-so. :)
: >
: >
: > >"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: > >news:b11unv4k50rplujrai30kpkgi0o7s8calg@4ax.com.. .
: > >> On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:15:14 GMT, "Dave Milne"
: > >> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: > >>
: > >> >Hah, sort of. We now have a Scottish parliament (good start), but it
: > >would
: > >> >appear we are incapable of governing ourselves (bad news). The
: parliament
: > >> >decided they need a nice new building to meet in (not that Edinburgh
: is
: > >> >exactly short of fine buildings), so they set about building one for
: 40
: > >> >million quid. The total cost so far (and it isnt complete) is 400
: million
: > >> >quid. A friend of a friend got the contract for covering 400 chairs
: with
: > >> >leather, which had to be an exotic foreign leather. Having completed
: the
: > >400
: > >> >chairs, he got the contract again to do the same chairs with a
: slightly
: > >> >different shade of exotic leather. Half way through, some "numpty"
: > >decided
: > >> >that they had forgotten to mention that the building should be bomb
: proof
: > >> >allegedly.
: > >> >As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that
: would
: > >be
: > >> >equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
: > >>
: > >> I was over in Scotland oh more than a few years back and the
Parliment
: > >> building was under construction back then! You mean they still
haven't
: > >> finished it? When I was there it was not even a framework.
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>
: > >> >
: > >> >Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >
: > >> >"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
: > >> >news:vns4ompgnggbcf@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: Ay the home 'o me Great, Great Grandpappy! Actually he was born in
: > >> >Dumfries,
: > >> >: but he headed for Edinburgh as a lad, probably had buggered the
: Vicar's
: > >> >: daughter or something and needed to get out of town fast! :-)
: > >> >:
: > >> >: Have we declared our once and for all independence from England
yet?
: > >> >:
: > >> >: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: news:1Mlfb.8193$df6.67254513@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > I'm an Edinburgh lad !
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: > --
: > >> >: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
: > >> >: > news:vnmqteq77jp979@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: > : Ah, but fear not, Mother Ford is here to help! Pretty soon
: you'll
: > >be
: > >> >: able
: > >> >: > to
: > >> >: > : buy a Ford-based Land Rover, which won't off-road worth a
crap,
: but
: > >> >: it'll
: > >> >: > : start every time!
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > : What part of Scotland are you from, mate?
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : news:nyHeb.6286$Uc.52033728@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > : > Sounds about right.. I shuttle between Edinburgh and
Solihull
: > >where
: > >> >: they
: > >> >: > : > make Land Rovers. Despite the fact that Landys have more
: > >substantial
: > >> >: > : > chassis, suspension and running gear , I didn't buy one -
the
: > >> >: > electrolytic
: > >> >: > : > corrosion from the alloy and steel is bad, the turbo diesel
: > >engines
: > >> >: are
: > >> >: > : crap
: > >> >: > : > (and that's all you can get in a Defender - bring back the
: 61-63
: > >> >Buick
: > >> >: > : > 3528cc, now 4600cc derived engine from the Disco). My pal
got
: a
: > >> >second
: > >> >: > : hand
: > >> >: > : > Range Rover recently ; looked a lot better deal than my
Jeep,
: but
: > >> >two
: > >> >: > days
: > >> >: > : > later it started all by itself, blew its computer and landed
: the
: > >> >owner
: > >> >: > : with
: > >> >: > : > a 1600 USD repair bill. Then the heated seats broke etc etc
: etc.
: > >> >When
: > >> >: a
: > >> >: > : > Solihull mechanic recommends you avoid LR, there has to be
: > >something
: > >> >: > wrong
: > >> >: > : !
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : > --
: > >> >: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in
message
: > >> >: > : > news:vnk5bpqquvj3b@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: > : > : Here in the States Land Rover is a perennial bottom
dweller
: on
: > >our
: > >> >: > : > : reliability studies. Some of my old staff from Jaguar USA
: are
: > >now
: > >> >: > : > : responsible for Land Rover and have me in stitches
laughing
: at
: > >> >some
: > >> >: of
: > >> >: > : the
: > >> >: > : > : current LR reliability problems. Having worked for Jaguar
: for
: > >15
: > >> >: > years,
: > >> >: > : > : including pre-Ford, it's all "Deja Vu All Over Again". Oil
: > >leaks,
: > >> >: > : > electrical
: > >> >: > : > : problems, corrosion, poor panel fits, bad paint, worn
: leather,
: > >> >: broken
: > >> >: > : > : switchgear...what would we expect, as soon as Ford fired a
: > >Jaguar
: > >> >: > : > engineer,
: > >> >: > : > : he got hired at Rover!
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : > : news:Cmneb.5277$E%5.44408874@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > : > : > Landy better than a Jeep for reliability ? Are they
: serious
: > >??
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > : > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : > "Gyp" <gyp@localdomain.net> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : > : > news:bkrmee$l5u$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
: > >> >: > : > : > : Lo Jeepers,
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK)
: paper
: > >> >: (Daily
: > >> >: > : > : > : Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct
: > >Reliability
: > >> >: > index"
: > >> >: > : > : > : which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k
cards
: > >with
: > >> >an
: > >> >: > : > average
: > >> >: > : > : > : age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702
: > >miles.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill
: of
: > >£275
: > >> >: and
: > >> >: > a
: > >> >: > : > 16%
: > >> >: > : > : > : failure rate.
: > >> >: > : > : > : Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and
a
: > >32%
: > >> >: > failure
: > >> >: > : > : rate
: > >> >: > : > : > : Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and
a
: > >20%
: > >> >: > failure
: > >> >: > : > : rate)
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Right down at the other end..
: > >> >: > : > : > : At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of
: £420
: > >> >and
: > >> >: a
: > >> >: > : 44%
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
: > >> >: > : > : > : 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill
of
: > >£1040
: > >> >: and
: > >> >: > a
: > >> >: > : > 21%
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill
: > >> >: > : > : > : and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place
(last)
: > >with
: > >> >an
: > >> >: > : > average
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of
: 41%.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although
: > >since
: > >> >the
: > >> >: > : > highest
: > >> >: > : > : > : failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it
: > >makes
: > >> >me
: > >> >: > : wonder
: > >> >: > : > : > : quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle
: > >makes
: > >> >: > sense.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Gyp
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : --
: > >> >: > : > : > : Jeep at the Threshold
: > >> >: > : > : > : http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
: > >> >: > : > : > : --
: > >> >: > : > : > : 4x4 Anoraks Offload
: > >> >: > : > : > : http://anoraks.uk.net
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: >
: > >> >:
: > >> >:
: > >> >
: > >>
: > >
: >
:
:
the latter to their faces heh heh.
numerous jokes exist about them e.g.
"what do you call a weegie man wearing a suit ? (the Accused)""
"what do you call a weegie women wearing a shell suit ? (the Bride)"
etc etc
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vnv8gaf34e7j78@corp.supernews.com...
: The Scots were absolutely wonderful and fascinating to sit and chat with,
: even if I couldn't understand half what they said most of the time. One
old
: geezer who lived in the neighborhood near the pub told Brit jokes and had
me
: in stitches. (He might have been the guy re-skinning the 400 chairs for
all
: in know.) Aren't Glasgowites called "Glaswegians", Dave?
:
:
: "Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: news:l94vnvs72806v1bq7h8e7fsodvb0gvmg2t@4ax.com...
: > On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:24:11 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
: > <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
: >
: > >I think my ancestral people are waiting for Mel Gibson to come back &
: lead
: > >'em again.
: > >
: > >I was in Glasgow back in '99 and ambled into a local pub. When the
locals
: > >found out I was a Yank of Scottish descent I never bought another
: beer..er,
: > >ale, er lager. Funny, though, I couldn't understand a single word some
of
: > >'em said!
: >
: > My father is a Scot, but he didn't go on that trip. The Scots are
: > great people. The food is so-so. :)
: >
: >
: > >"Scooby Don't" <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: > >news:b11unv4k50rplujrai30kpkgi0o7s8calg@4ax.com.. .
: > >> On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:15:14 GMT, "Dave Milne"
: > >> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: > >>
: > >> >Hah, sort of. We now have a Scottish parliament (good start), but it
: > >would
: > >> >appear we are incapable of governing ourselves (bad news). The
: parliament
: > >> >decided they need a nice new building to meet in (not that Edinburgh
: is
: > >> >exactly short of fine buildings), so they set about building one for
: 40
: > >> >million quid. The total cost so far (and it isnt complete) is 400
: million
: > >> >quid. A friend of a friend got the contract for covering 400 chairs
: with
: > >> >leather, which had to be an exotic foreign leather. Having completed
: the
: > >400
: > >> >chairs, he got the contract again to do the same chairs with a
: slightly
: > >> >different shade of exotic leather. Half way through, some "numpty"
: > >decided
: > >> >that they had forgotten to mention that the building should be bomb
: proof
: > >> >allegedly.
: > >> >As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that
: would
: > >be
: > >> >equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
: > >>
: > >> I was over in Scotland oh more than a few years back and the
Parliment
: > >> building was under construction back then! You mean they still
haven't
: > >> finished it? When I was there it was not even a framework.
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>
: > >> >
: > >> >Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >
: > >> >"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
: > >> >news:vns4ompgnggbcf@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: Ay the home 'o me Great, Great Grandpappy! Actually he was born in
: > >> >Dumfries,
: > >> >: but he headed for Edinburgh as a lad, probably had buggered the
: Vicar's
: > >> >: daughter or something and needed to get out of town fast! :-)
: > >> >:
: > >> >: Have we declared our once and for all independence from England
yet?
: > >> >:
: > >> >: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: news:1Mlfb.8193$df6.67254513@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > I'm an Edinburgh lad !
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: > --
: > >> >: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
: > >> >: > news:vnmqteq77jp979@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: > : Ah, but fear not, Mother Ford is here to help! Pretty soon
: you'll
: > >be
: > >> >: able
: > >> >: > to
: > >> >: > : buy a Ford-based Land Rover, which won't off-road worth a
crap,
: but
: > >> >: it'll
: > >> >: > : start every time!
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > : What part of Scotland are you from, mate?
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : news:nyHeb.6286$Uc.52033728@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > : > Sounds about right.. I shuttle between Edinburgh and
Solihull
: > >where
: > >> >: they
: > >> >: > : > make Land Rovers. Despite the fact that Landys have more
: > >substantial
: > >> >: > : > chassis, suspension and running gear , I didn't buy one -
the
: > >> >: > electrolytic
: > >> >: > : > corrosion from the alloy and steel is bad, the turbo diesel
: > >engines
: > >> >: are
: > >> >: > : crap
: > >> >: > : > (and that's all you can get in a Defender - bring back the
: 61-63
: > >> >Buick
: > >> >: > : > 3528cc, now 4600cc derived engine from the Disco). My pal
got
: a
: > >> >second
: > >> >: > : hand
: > >> >: > : > Range Rover recently ; looked a lot better deal than my
Jeep,
: but
: > >> >two
: > >> >: > days
: > >> >: > : > later it started all by itself, blew its computer and landed
: the
: > >> >owner
: > >> >: > : with
: > >> >: > : > a 1600 USD repair bill. Then the heated seats broke etc etc
: etc.
: > >> >When
: > >> >: a
: > >> >: > : > Solihull mechanic recommends you avoid LR, there has to be
: > >something
: > >> >: > wrong
: > >> >: > : !
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : > --
: > >> >: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in
message
: > >> >: > : > news:vnk5bpqquvj3b@corp.supernews.com...
: > >> >: > : > : Here in the States Land Rover is a perennial bottom
dweller
: on
: > >our
: > >> >: > : > : reliability studies. Some of my old staff from Jaguar USA
: are
: > >now
: > >> >: > : > : responsible for Land Rover and have me in stitches
laughing
: at
: > >> >some
: > >> >: of
: > >> >: > : the
: > >> >: > : > : current LR reliability problems. Having worked for Jaguar
: for
: > >15
: > >> >: > years,
: > >> >: > : > : including pre-Ford, it's all "Deja Vu All Over Again". Oil
: > >leaks,
: > >> >: > : > electrical
: > >> >: > : > : problems, corrosion, poor panel fits, bad paint, worn
: leather,
: > >> >: broken
: > >> >: > : > : switchgear...what would we expect, as soon as Ford fired a
: > >Jaguar
: > >> >: > : > engineer,
: > >> >: > : > : he got hired at Rover!
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : > : news:Cmneb.5277$E%5.44408874@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > >> >: > : > : > Landy better than a Jeep for reliability ? Are they
: serious
: > >??
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > >> >: > : > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : > "Gyp" <gyp@localdomain.net> wrote in message
: > >> >: > : > : > news:bkrmee$l5u$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
: > >> >: > : > : > : Lo Jeepers,
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK)
: paper
: > >> >: (Daily
: > >> >: > : > : > : Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct
: > >Reliability
: > >> >: > index"
: > >> >: > : > : > : which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k
cards
: > >with
: > >> >an
: > >> >: > : > average
: > >> >: > : > : > : age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702
: > >miles.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill
: of
: > >£275
: > >> >: and
: > >> >: > a
: > >> >: > : > 16%
: > >> >: > : > : > : failure rate.
: > >> >: > : > : > : Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and
a
: > >32%
: > >> >: > failure
: > >> >: > : > : rate
: > >> >: > : > : > : Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and
a
: > >20%
: > >> >: > failure
: > >> >: > : > : rate)
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Right down at the other end..
: > >> >: > : > : > : At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of
: £420
: > >> >and
: > >> >: a
: > >> >: > : 44%
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
: > >> >: > : > : > : 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill
of
: > >£1040
: > >> >: and
: > >> >: > a
: > >> >: > : > 21%
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill
: > >> >: > : > : > : and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place
(last)
: > >with
: > >> >an
: > >> >: > : > average
: > >> >: > : > : > : repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of
: 41%.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although
: > >since
: > >> >the
: > >> >: > : > highest
: > >> >: > : > : > : failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it
: > >makes
: > >> >me
: > >> >: > : wonder
: > >> >: > : > : > : quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle
: > >makes
: > >> >: > sense.
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : Gyp
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : > : --
: > >> >: > : > : > : Jeep at the Threshold
: > >> >: > : > : > : http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
: > >> >: > : > : > : --
: > >> >: > : > : > : 4x4 Anoraks Offload
: > >> >: > : > : > : http://anoraks.uk.net
: > >> >: > : > : > :
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > : >
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : > :
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > : >
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: > :
: > >> >: >
: > >> >: >
: > >> >:
: > >> >:
: > >> >
: > >>
: > >
: >
:
:
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In article <1bIfb.9138$8U1.75954204@news-text.cableinet.net>, "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> writes:
>Never did work out why England had a reputation for being polite/genteel.
>In Europe we have a reputation of being laager louts which is probably
>nearer the mark..
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
They were comparing Brits to French.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> writes:
>Never did work out why England had a reputation for being polite/genteel.
>In Europe we have a reputation of being laager louts which is probably
>nearer the mark..
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
They were comparing Brits to French.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
Guest
Posts: n/a
In article <1bIfb.9138$8U1.75954204@news-text.cableinet.net>, "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> writes:
>Never did work out why England had a reputation for being polite/genteel.
>In Europe we have a reputation of being laager louts which is probably
>nearer the mark..
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
They were comparing Brits to French.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> writes:
>Never did work out why England had a reputation for being polite/genteel.
>In Europe we have a reputation of being laager louts which is probably
>nearer the mark..
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
They were comparing Brits to French.
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In article <1bIfb.9138$8U1.75954204@news-text.cableinet.net>, "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> writes:
>Never did work out why England had a reputation for being polite/genteel.
>In Europe we have a reputation of being laager louts which is probably
>nearer the mark..
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
They were comparing Brits to French.
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Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
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http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> writes:
>Never did work out why England had a reputation for being polite/genteel.
>In Europe we have a reputation of being laager louts which is probably
>nearer the mark..
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
They were comparing Brits to French.
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In article <Ccwfb.8459$rW3.70828211@news-text.cableinet.net>,
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that would be
> equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
>
>
That would be the Pentagon renovation (not the part caused by the
attack).
B
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Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that would be
> equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
>
>
That would be the Pentagon renovation (not the part caused by the
attack).
B
--
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than to conquer the human mind.
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In article <Ccwfb.8459$rW3.70828211@news-text.cableinet.net>,
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that would be
> equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
>
>
That would be the Pentagon renovation (not the part caused by the
attack).
B
--
Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that would be
> equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
>
>
That would be the Pentagon renovation (not the part caused by the
attack).
B
--
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It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
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In article <Ccwfb.8459$rW3.70828211@news-text.cableinet.net>,
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that would be
> equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
>
>
That would be the Pentagon renovation (not the part caused by the
attack).
B
--
Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that would be
> equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
>
>
That would be the Pentagon renovation (not the part caused by the
attack).
B
--
Brian Heller
It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.
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guess bureaucrats are bureaucrats the world over..
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Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Brian" <bsheller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:bsheller-EFB1D6.15452705102003@news05.east.earthlink.net...
: In article <Ccwfb.8459$rW3.70828211@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
:
: > As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that would
be
: > equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
: >
: >
:
: That would be the Pentagon renovation (not the part caused by the
: attack).
:
: B
:
: --
: Brian Heller
:
: It is easier to tame wild beasts
: than to conquer the human mind.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Brian" <bsheller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:bsheller-EFB1D6.15452705102003@news05.east.earthlink.net...
: In article <Ccwfb.8459$rW3.70828211@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
:
: > As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that would
be
: > equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
: >
: >
:
: That would be the Pentagon renovation (not the part caused by the
: attack).
:
: B
:
: --
: Brian Heller
:
: It is easier to tame wild beasts
: than to conquer the human mind.
Guest
Posts: n/a
guess bureaucrats are bureaucrats the world over..
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Brian" <bsheller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:bsheller-EFB1D6.15452705102003@news05.east.earthlink.net...
: In article <Ccwfb.8459$rW3.70828211@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
:
: > As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that would
be
: > equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
: >
: >
:
: That would be the Pentagon renovation (not the part caused by the
: attack).
:
: B
:
: --
: Brian Heller
:
: It is easier to tame wild beasts
: than to conquer the human mind.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Brian" <bsheller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:bsheller-EFB1D6.15452705102003@news05.east.earthlink.net...
: In article <Ccwfb.8459$rW3.70828211@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
:
: > As Scotland has only 5 million people, per head of population that would
be
: > equivalent of of 35 billion US on one building..
: >
: >
:
: That would be the Pentagon renovation (not the part caused by the
: attack).
:
: B
:
: --
: Brian Heller
:
: It is easier to tame wild beasts
: than to conquer the human mind.


